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Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 24 Oct 2001 1:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Apr 2003 3:31PM GMT
Surnames: Gougherty, Tobin, Spiess, Brinkman
Looking for any information about Thomas Francis Gougherty who married Susanna (Susan) Tobin. Their children were as follows:

Thomas Francis Gougherty b. Aug 5, 1894 in Rochester, Monroe Co, NY, d. Jan 2, 1972 in Dayton, Montgomery Co, Ohio

Florence E. Gougherty, b.1890 in Rochester, Monroe Co, NY, d. Nov 19, 1963 in Rochester, Monroe Co, NY

Jane Gougherty, b. 1888, d. 1905

Thanks in advance for any help. -Carolyn

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 28 Jul 2004 8:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Carolyn, My father had some cousins with your(/our?)relatively uncommon name. Their father was called Will
Gougherty, and he lived in Grand Rapids Michigan probably through the 1930's or 40's. He was married to my great aunt, Katherine (spelling?) Murphy Gougherty. They also had brother Willie, and sisters Lena and Louise. the Goughertys and my aunts lived in Western Michigan. There were two daughters of them, Margaret and Mary Katherine (sp?). Mary K's children were (by Clyde Allen) Jim and Ann Marie. Sons of Kate and Will were Clare who died childless, and Emmet, who had children, but they were adopted by his wife's second husband and they took his name. If you have info on their county of origin in Eire, I'd be appreciative. Dave

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 5 Aug 2004 3:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Aug 2004 3:31PM GMT
My mother is a Gougherty. I have stumbled on your Gougherty line before. My mother's family were from Caledonia New York, fairly near to Rochester. I'm suspecting that there must be a connection. my great grandfather William moved to Michigan (Bad Axe) in 1892 and moved back to New York circa 1905. I have census records going back to the 1850's on this particular line. My grandfather was named Thomas and I believe he was named after an uncle.

Contact me for more info. Valerie

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Dave Donovan (View posts)
Posted: 5 Aug 2004 12:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Valerie, I don't think this family line is closely related, but I would be curious how much so. Do you have any idea where in Ireland your branch originated. Because the name is not that common, it's a fair possibility that all of them are somehow related. BTW, how does your family pronounce the name. My relatives said "Goo-ger-tee" with the accent on the first syllable.
If by any chance you ever find out any info on an Emmet, he is our relative whose children changed their names to their stepfather's. As a result, I have several second cousins in Grand Rapids whose names I don't even know. The last relative who might know either died or is very senile.
It is easier to contact me via the e-mail vs. through the message board. Dave

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 5 Aug 2004 2:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Aug 2004 3:31PM GMT
I don't know your e-mail address. Mine is valedypett@yahoo.com I prefer messages posted to my e-mail rather than this message board. I know the person looking for descendents of Thomas Francis is definitely a connection, because my great grandfather had a younger brother named Thomas Francis. My grandfather was named after him, as was a cousin of mine. I have quite a bit of research on the Gougherty line. It is at my second home. I will try to remember it the next time I go there. Our family pronounces the name several different ways. Most family members pronounce it Gough- er- ty (as in cow). I have been trying very hard to find out, where in Ireland the original family members immigrated from. No luck. My grandfather used to say it was County Cork. I'm not sure if he really knew, because it was 50 years before he was born. I do know that the family immigrated to Ontario before moving to New York. I have found records for quite a few Goughertys in Ontario. I haven't been able to actually read the census records yet, but I know the reel numbers and if I can access the actual records it might reveal a lot. By the way, if you are connected my uncles had quite a few sons, who had quite a few sons so the Gougherty name is becoming quite widespread.

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 6 Aug 2004 1:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Valerie, I am interested in your information on William. I have circumstantial evidence that indicates my Thomas F. Gougherty (b. 1860 NY) had a brother named William. Thomas appears on the census in 1900 Rochester, Monroe Co, NY Census, E.D. 111, sheet 8, line 97. I do not have him in the 1860 or 1870 census and wondered if your census records show a brother to William named Thomas who would have been born 1860? Thanks! - Carolyn

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 6 Aug 2004 1:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
David, I do not have information on the people you mentioned. I replied to Valerie and am trying to make a connection between my Thomas and a possible brother William. - Carolyn

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 6 Aug 2004 3:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Aug 2004 3:31PM GMT
Carolyn, I left all my geneology papers at my second home. At this point i'm drawing from memory. I will be going there either this or next weekend. My guess is there is a strong connection. A few years ago, I spent a lot of time going through the records. I visited my grandfather's hometown of Caledonia. I found the headstones of my greatgrandfather and some of his brothers (there were quite a few). I do remember finding a Thomas Francis in the records. I figured my grandfather was named after him. I found one of the old family homes still standing. It has a Gougherty ghost. I have also found records of Gougherty's living in Ontario. An elderly uncle remembered that the family lived in Ontario before arriving in New York. I hate to tell you this, but my grandfather was the black sheep of the family. Supposedly he threw his grandmother off a porch. I heard his father was just as mean. My great grandfather owned a hotel/saloon, pre prohibition. I have been trying to locate it but haven't had any luck. A deceased uncle visited there. My grandmother took him there when he was a teen and he returned when he was middle aged. His wife doesn't remember the name of it or where exactly it was at. Many of my Gougherty cousins are fascinated with the family history. We all want to know where in Ireland the family came from. I haven't found any passenger lists with male Goughertys on it. I'm hoping that the Ontario census gives some more clues. I am definitely reenergized to restart the hunt. Sharing information is always great.

Valerie valedypett@yahoo.com

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 9 Aug 2004 6:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Aug 2004 3:31PM GMT
Surnames: Gougherty
Carolyn, please send me your private email address, that way we don't have to use this meassage board. valedypett@yahoo.com.
I went home and retrieved the census records.

There were many William Goughertys. I am having a bit of trouble keeping them all straight. My great grandfather was a William as I believe was his grandfather. My great grandfather's family resided in Caledonia New York for 3-4 generations. Thomas was the oldest son
Here is a list of names from the 1860 census from Caledonia, New York.

Name Relationship Age birth year birthplace

Thomas Gougherty father 29 1831 Ireland
Maria (Calaker) Gougherty mother 30 1830 Ireland
Thomas son 9 1851 New York
Ann daughter 7 1853 New York
Johanna daughter 4 1856 New York
William (my g-grandftaher) son 2 1858 New York
Mary daughter 1 1859 New York

The 1870 census shows an additional 3 children: Katie (1862), Maggie (1864), and Daniel (1867). The 1880 census shows no additional children.

I also have the 1900 census record for the family of Thomas Gougherty the oldest son from above. It has more detail than the 1860 census.

Name Rel. Birthdate Age

Thomas Gougherty head Dec. 1851 48
Mary wife May 1863 37
Maria daug. Aug 1889 10
William son Aug 1890 9
John son Jan 1892 8
Daniel son May 1895 5
Thomas son Jan 1897 3

Is this your Thomas? Let me know. I have other info on this line, if you're interested. Valerie

Re: Thomas Francis Gougherty of Rochester, NY

Posted: 19 May 2012 1:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
I am Valerie's lst cousin,Suzanne Gougherty... its been a few years now that you have been in touch with each other per the posting. I just returned from NYC and have been doing research on the Gougherty Family. I have come across some documention on my Grandfather, Thomas Gougherty and his brother Edward Gougherty - and their father Daniel Gougherty, and his mother Marie Gougherty.

I have made other discoveries as well. My father is William Thomas Gougherty born 1920 in Michigan. My dad's siblings were: Robert, James and Catherine. Catherine is Valerie's mother, and of course my Aunt.

There are many first names in the Gougherty clan that remain the same-- generation after generation. And as a child I remember my father talking about the importance of caring on those first names. Names such as: Daniel, Thomas, Robert, William, etc. We still carry those names in our Gougherty family tree.

Let me know if you are interested in talking with me. The best to you and your family.
Best regards,
Suzanne Gougherty. Daughter of William T. Gougherty, mentioned above.
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