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Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC

Posted: 6 Jul 2013 5:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gluckstern
That's really interesting that Phil Gluckstern was your stepfather! I actually have you and your mother on my tree already as I've done my best to track down who descended from each and every Gluckstern that came over from Chernovitz, Ukraine.

My connection is: Simon and Louis, the proprietors of the original Gluckstern's, had a brother named Isaac. He is my great-great grandfather on my father's side (passing through all the men to my father): Isaac's son was named Louis (yes, another Louis to make things confusing!), who had a son named Robert (my grandfather), who had my father Steven. Then came me! And now I'm the family genealogist having gotten rather deep into ancestry.com.

-Sarah

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC

Posted: 6 Jul 2013 6:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
As I said earlier, my mother Gladys Wolfe married Phil in Miami in 1959. I have a brother Robert and a sister Pamela who also moved into the Gluckstern home in new Rochelle, ny. Do you know anything about Phil's natural children Fran, Bernard and Lewis. I lost touch after my mother died in 1975 in Florida. That period of time, from Phil and Gladys' marriage till her death was not the most pleasant. He was a difficult person. Is Phil's first wife, Sylvia on your "tree"? Phil was the first father in the state of New York to win custody of a child. He invented the term "litigation"

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC

Posted: 6 Jul 2013 6:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gluckstern
Thanks for the information about your family - I always like filling out more stuff on my tree. I don't know much about Phil's children, though there is a woman who has posted earlier on this message board who *did* know them and she has her email address available. I have corresponded with her (her name is Sally) and she is very kind. I would recommend emailing her to get more information on Fran, Lewis and Buddy (Bernard).

And yes, indeed, his first wife Sylvia Shapiro is on my tree as well. I found the court proceedings between them about their youngest son and whether he was to be raised as a Jew or a Christian Scientist - fascinating stuff! But i hadn't known that Phil ultimately won custody and was the first father in NY to do so. What an interesting detail of Gluckstern family lore.

Are you the same age, roughly, as Phil's other children and did you all live together?

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC

Posted: 6 Jul 2013 8:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Currently , as we speak, my husband and I are in Costa Rica with our 4 children and 4 grandchildren. I was 16 when we moved up to new Rochelle. I will be a young 70 in August. Fran is probably 4 years older, Buddy maybe 2 years older And Lewis maybe 4 years younger than me. At one point , 6 children were all living together under one roof in New Rochelle. It was quite an experience.
I emailed Sally, who is Phil's sister Sophie's daughter. She lives in Maryland....my husband and I live on Capitol Hill on DC . Maybe one day we can meet .

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC

Posted: 4 Jan 2014 7:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Rhonda,

Were you ever able to find out who Gussie's parents were? I'd love to connect the dots in the Gluckstern clan, but am hitting brick walls...this would be a major breakthrough if you knew her parentage...

Thanks!

Sarah

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC (update on Beulah and Gussie Gluckstern)

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 1:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi all!

I just found some major pieces of information that I thought the people on this thread might appreciate knowing about. Specifically, details about how the Dunsts were related to the Gluckstern family and some information about Gussie Gluckstern Kesten.

1. Beulah (Yiddish name was Baily or Beile) Gluckstern Dunst was actually **a sister** of the brothers Simon and Louis who started Gluckstern's restaurant. Nobody in my family knew she was a sibling, but her parents' names are the same as Simon and Louis', so there you go...(those names, by the way, are Moses Gluckstern and Chaje Ruchel Hasenfratz). As you know, she married Samuel (Shmul) Dunst in the old country and had two sons. She then immigrated to NY in 1925, where she lived until her death in 1933. She shows up in the 1925 NYS Census living with her son Meyer, and then again in the 1930 US Census living by herself in a Jewish home for older people.

2. Gussie Gluckstern (yiddish name Golde), also spelled Gosse on her marriage certificate to Louis Kesten, was a daughter of Marcus (Modche/Mordechai) Gluckstern. He was a brother of Simon and Louis, the restaurateurs. So that means that Gussie was **a niece** of the restaurateurs. She doesn't show up living in any census records with Marcus and his wife Rose (Reisel) because she married not so long after she immigrated. Interesting story that I figured out from the Ellis Island records: Gussie originally immigrated in 1903 with her mother Rose, and two of her three brothers (Max and Joseph). The older brother, Frank, had immigrated the year before and was now living with Marcus. For some reason, Rose and Joseph were sent back to Europe, though, and Gussie and her brother Max went to live with Marcus until the mother and little brother were able to re-enter the country in 1906. Gussie was married on 18 Jun 1911 to Louis Kesten in NYC.

I hope that helps shed some light on the subject for all of you who have been posting on here over the years. If you have any more questions about this family, I've done an extensive amount of work on their history, so feel free to message me here or at sarahgluckstern@gmail.com. I have census records, Ellis Island immigration files, marriage and death certificates, etc. :)

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC - new website

Posted: 29 Mar 2014 2:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
hi all,

i have recently started a blog detailing my genealogical research into the gluckstern family (as well as the rest of my family) and figured i would share it here in case any of you want to read more about the glucksterns and how i found out what i did....

www.sarahglucksterngenealogy.wordpress.com

cheers!

Re: Gluckstern's Eastside Restaurant, NYC - new website

Posted: 8 Jun 2014 9:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gluckstern
Hello Everyone, my name Is Joseph Lionel Gluckstern, My father was Charles or Charlie and his father was Max, Max was Married to Malvina or Mina and they also had a daughter Tina who changed her last name to Stern. Max went back to Germany as he did not feel comfortable not speaking English and did not want to learn. Max' sister was Rose and she was married to Frank and they had a son Tobby and Tobby's son was Joshua. Max's father was Joseph who I am named after and my dad had a cousin named Emil who stayed in Europe. I met his son Rudolf who lived in i belive Switzerlad. I am married with no children to Albina Gluckstern.

Can anyone tell me about any of the Gluckstern's from that side still alive
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