hiya everyone im 13 and i was just looking on this site cause iw aned to find out some of my distant family.i dunno how this works but hey its cool lol.my dad is called gary and my gran is called helen givan i dont no my grandads name as he died when i was little(r.i.p) talk to me if you no my dad gran or grandad my dad has a brother called stuat givan and a cosin called david givan byebye xxx
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Dear Aimee Givan, Just read your message from last March and wondered how your family search is going. First I want you to show my message to you Dad and your Gran so they know who I am. They may want to know more about me. My name is Rusty Givens, I also wanted to learn about my family when I was young (I was 12) when I started asking questions about my family. Many years later, I'm still asking questions about my family. I now travel back and forth to Ireland each year to try and learn more about our family. I have been in contact with some Givan family over the years and will share with you what I have. The family emigrated from Scotland in the 1630's to Northern Ireland and settled in an area called, Coleraine. The family name was spelled Gavine and when they emigrated to Ireland in the 1630 they changed the spelling to Given. There are numerous spellings of our family name. Some changed the spelling, sometimes the spelling change was by mistake and several other reasons. Here are some of the spellings: Gavine, Gavan(s), Gavin(s), Given(s), Giveen, Givin and several other spellings. Most of our family settled in Northern Ireland, (County Antrim) in the early 1600's. My family line emigrated to the Colonies (now America) in the very early 1700's into Pennsylvania and Maryland. The soon traveled down South into Virginia. The patriarch of my family line is Daniel Givens b@1739 to 1745 and married a Martha Camden in 1764. That is a long time ago isn't it? I have seen photos of the log cabin that they once lived in and have walked on the land that they once owned which was very special for me. If you would like to exchange information or ask questions I will be glad to help you get started. It is a lot of fun. All the best, Rusty Givens from Virginia Givens1700@aol.com
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hiya it is aimee again i just got ur email about the family tree.sorry but i dont htink we are related as the spelling is different of our last names. mine is givAN and urs is givEN sorry good luck with finding out about r family
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Givan, Gavine, Giveen, Given(s) Aimee is new and needs help
Hi Aimee Givan,
Nice to hear right back from you.
Aimee when you research your family name you will find that there will be numerous spellings of your family name.
Some of the reasons why are:
When some of our families came through Ellis Island into this country, the people who wrote down the names and other information about the people who were coming into our country did not alway ask how people spelled their names but wrote down what they thought it might be spelled as. Our families that came over on ships that may have taken weeks to get here, did not really care if their names were spelled correctly or not, they just wanted to be allowed to live in America.
Another reason, was some families thought that they needed a new beginning and just spelled their names differently.
Some were hoping to escape religious persuasion.
Aimee one of my distant cousins whose family spell their name, Givin from Northern Ireland, in a town called Bushmills has on ONE of their family markers in a cemetery the following spellings. Givin, Given, Giveen
All of these people were ONE family but for many reasons spellings got all turned around.
Suggestion; stay loose with your thinking. All most all families can find numerous spellings of their names if they dig back far enough.
I will pass along a couple of Givan contacts that I work with and ask that they share what they can with you.
Next, Amiee if you are really interested in doing this, I will suggest something to you that is very important and that is you must write down the source of every bit of information that you learn about your family as you go along.
Even if it is from your Aunt or your Grandma or whoever, you must learn to always write down your sources.
Another way to learn a lot, in a short amount of time is to ask your Gran if you can ask many questions and record it. Now that is the easy part, then you must rewind and rewind sometime in the future and write it all down. Amiee your family might say they don't want to be recorded but most will go along with it and it will be something that you treasure for the rest of your life.
You will need to write down many questions before you start, like, where were you born, what kind of jobs did you have, what are the names of your brothers and sisters, where were the places that you lived, was any of the family in the military, where did they serve, etc, etc. There are many books to help with what questions to ask.
When you ask your questions there will be many names or places that you will want to ask, "how do you spell their names or the name of that place". It is easy on tape as it is much faster.
Old photos of family members is a great start. If the photos are not lableled, as if the two of you could lablel them soon and put dates as close as they can remember. I did that with my Aunts when I was a teen and thrilled that we did it. They have since died and now I will know who they are in the future.
Ask your Dad and Gran some more detail on your family and I will get you started using Google which is a pretty esay way to search anything. What is your Grandfathers name, what is your Grandmothers name, where were they born. Ask if they remember where they came from?
All the best to you,
Rusty Givens
Another important thing to remember, is that the "Subject line" in Ancestory.com is real important, put important information in it.
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Re: Givan, Gavine, Giveen, Given(s) Aimee is new and needs help
Hi Aimee. Toward the latter sixteen hundreds appeared on the Lower Eastern Shore of Maryland Robert Givan and James Givan, and while no documentary proof has been found to place them as brothers, a close relationship can be assumed. They were literate, and the name was spelled in several ways, such as Givan, Givon, Givons, and Given. They apparently emigrated after 1680 as they did not apply for landrights under the Acts of Plantation, and no record has been found for a colonist claiming landrights for transporting them. No records of them settling on the shores of Virginia. My study has shown that Robert Givan resided in Somerset in Maryland in 1686. I am 73 years old, born 1/2/34. My father happened to be named Robert James Givan. Hope this little bit of info helps you.
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Re: Givan, Gavine, Giveen, Given(s) Aimee is new and needs help
Dear Mr Givan, My name is Rusty Givens and I have records about the Givan family line up in Somerset - BUT I just moved to Colorado 3 weeks ago. All my records are in boxes so it will be sometime later this summer before I can get back and share with you. I'm leaving for the East coast next week and won't be back until July. I've spent a fair bit of time reserching your line. I will also send you another Givan gentleman to contact that is a young lawyer in Southern, Virginia. He is in our DNA group, ( www.familytreedna.com). Your line and mine are not related. Anyway you now have my e-mail address ( Givens1700@aol.com) so contact me and I will share later this summer. All the best, Rusty Givens
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Re: Givan, Gavine, Giveen, Given(s) Aimee is new and needs help
Hi, Robert. Rusty may not be in your line, but I might. My maiden name was Rownd, which has also been spelled various ways. My gggggrandparents were William Rownd and Martha Read of Worcester County, Maryland. Martha's parents were John Reed and Martha Givan/s, also of the Snow Hill area. William Rownd's grandfather was another William Rownd, a sea captain present in colonial Maryland by 1687. There was a man named Rownd Givan whose father John Givan had a will probated in 1779. It's possible John's wife was a Rownd. Of course, it is also possible John Givan named his son after one of the Rownds because they were neighbors, friends, or just prominent community members.
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Re: Givan, Gavine, Giveen, Given(s) , Govans
Something that might be of interest: Maryland Calendar of Wills; Volume 5 Givan, James of Rowastico, gentleman, Somerset Co.,5th Oct., 1723; 11th May, 1724 wife Martha son James som William son George dau Margaret son John dau Sarah dau Martha dau Jane If this is of interst, I will send a copy of the entire will. All the best, DD Rusty Givens Givens1700@aol.comfrom the Daniel & Martha Camden Givens line that settled in Southern Virginia @ 1740's, via PA & MD. Believed to be from CO Antrim, now Northern Ireland.
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Re: Givan, Gavine, Giveen, Given(s) , Govans
The James Givan Will ref in Somerset Co, is in Maryland.
also see:
Settlers of Maryland 1731-1750
Peter Wilson Coldham
p-87
Day Givan, Wor Co, 1749 Jane Givan widow of Robert Givan 1749 Robert Givan 1742
Land ownership
All the best,
DD Rusty Givens
w the Daniel & Martha Camden Givens line that settled in S Virginia @ 1740's, via PA & MD @ 1730, and believed to be from CO Antrim, now Northern Ireland.
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Re: Givan, Gavine, Giveen, Given(s) , Govans
Thanks, Rusty. That might be interesting to look at. I've gotten a lot of wills off the www.ocmuseum.org site--their genealogy section covers a lot of early eastern shore Maryland records. Here's a will abstract that I am particularly interested in, as I wonder if this is my John Givan whose first wife might have been Martha. Of course, there is no daughter Martha listed: ______________________________________________ John Givan Will Date: Probate Date: Givan, John, Sr. 25 Apr 1777w. 2 Mar 1779p. To my wife Ann Givan. To son Rownd Givan, 118 acres of Givan's Chance. To son Robert Givan, 30 acres that was bought of Nehemiah Catlin. To son John Gavin, the plantation where I live. To daughter Mary Givan To four children by my first wife, Rownd, James, Sarah and Margaret To four youngest children Robert, Mary, George, and John. John the EX. Wit; Benjamin Davis, James Davis, Patience Brittingham. 1769-1783, 414. ___________________________________________ P.S. I like the possible Northern Ireland connection, as I am pretty sure that my Rownd line, although English, was probably also Presbyterian. For sure, one of the early Rownd daughters, Martha Rownd, married Samuel Caldwell of Philadelphia. Samuel Caldwell was a founder of the Friendly Sons of St. Patrick, though he too was Presbyterian. I guess religious tolerance was why this society was "Friendly". Samuel Caldwell was at one time paymaster for George Washington, so there's a fair amount of documentation for him out there.
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