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5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 5 Dec 2010 3:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
I found this posting at the genforum pages and thought it may be helpful. It was helpful for me. My husband descends from Jean Girard (Girardin) originally from Holland.

For those interested in the Girard namesake in the new world (new-france) I would like to

share an article in the La Press, from Montreal that was published in 1993 by Robert Prevost.

Girard: eight pioneers are the roots of the families established in New-France (nouvelle France) but only 5 had decendants. (the article focused on these 5 ancestors and not the 3 others sorry).

1. Joachim Girard
2. Pierre Girard
3. Pierre Girard
4. Léon Girard
5. Jean Girard

It allowed me to trace back my ancestry, with very little blanks. The translation from french is my own and will mostly outline: names, dates and history.

1. Joachim Girard, from the parish of Saint-Cyr du Vaudreuil, close to Rouen, France. Son of Michel and Francoise Anceaume, established his family (married) on September 27 1660 in Quebec city, Quebec with Marie Haley, daugther of Jean-Baptiste and Mathurine Valet. The preceeding January, Marie-Madeleine Legardeur from Repentigny, wife of Jean-Paul Godefroy had given land to the young man (Joachim Girard) 2 x 15 "arpents" (about 382 by 2865 feet) along Sainte-Genevieve, Quebec city. Thus far Joachim was working for his uncle: Jean Jobin. Joachim and Marie had 7 children.

At the census of 1667, 5 were already born, and 1 girl had died. in 1667 he is the proud owner of 10 "arpent" of land, 2 cows. 2 more children will be born before his wife passes away. He will sell his land in 1672, (the article mention his mourning his wife may have precipitated the selling of the land). He then moves to the village of Saint-Bernard, in Charlesbourg. It is there that he re-marries in 1676 with Jeanne Chalut, daugther of Pierre and Marie Bonin. She was the widow of Nicholas Hévé. The new marriage will give life to 9 children.

Four sons, 2 of each marriages will get married and start their own families. Jacques Girard will wed Mathurine Poiré in 1687. Antoine Girard will wed Agnès Trottier also in 1687. Joachim (jr) Girard will wed Marie-Louise lefebvre in 1708 and finally Jean-Baptiste will wed Madeleine Aumier in 1715. The daughters on the other hand will contribute to the lineages of the Fournier, Lemay, Lefebvre and Laporte families.

In 1681, Jaochim Girard, still resides on his land in Charlesbourg. He now has 10 "arpents" and 4 cows. He passes away between 1708 and 1712 (the article mentions that they could find his death certificate). The article mention these facts about the cathedreal in Vaudreuil which still stands today.

It's main portal has double roman style columns. It is situated in a "boulce" along the Seine river, about 20 kilometers south-ouest of Rouen along the shores of the Eure.

There are 2 Pierre Girards

2. Pierre Girard, son of René and Marie Bosnarde from Bures, parish of Sées in Normandy, France. Pierre Girard fathered 2 families in Varennes. Firsty married to Francoise Gratiot around 1681 in Repentigny. She was the daugther of Jacques and Madeleine Michelande. Pierre Girard and Madeleine had 5 children, 3 of which died at birth. His son Jacques Girard wed Francoise Petit in 1710.

He married a second time with a girl called Marguerite Bouchard, daugther of Claude and Marguerite Bénard. They had seven children, which again 4 did not survive... 2 sons did wed: Pierre (jr) Girard wed Marie-Therese Tétreau in 1723 and Jean-Baptiste wed Marguerite Choquet in 1726.

3. The other Pierre Girard (my ancestor)
Son of a farmer: Etienne Girard and Marguerite Gibouleau from "des Sables D'Olonne", in Poitou, France. (the article expands that this area Poitou is a bourg that will eventually become an important touristic area in France due to it's 3 kilometers beach on the Atlantic).

In 1666 the census noted that Pierre Girard working for the Jesuits. He married in 1669 the widow Suzanne Lavoie (also researh showed DeLavoye). Possibly choosing to marry rather than returning to sea, seems he was a naval notary. First 2 sons are born in Quebec city, he then settles in the seignory of Maur (today called

Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures). There 6 other children are born (one in Neuville). Three sons will start their own families. Francois Girard will wed Antoinette Lemay in 1709.

Jean-Pierre Girard will wed Angelique Huard in 1710. Pierre-louis Girard (my great grand father 7 generations ago) will wed Rosalie Tremblay in 1711.

The article end here but the following is what we have as records (and more) our own research also shows he married again in 1714 to Marguerite Tardif... this is accurate, but I do not have the "blanks" between the 3 years: did Rosalie die? Did they have children? What we do know from there:

Pierre-Louis Girard wed Marguerite Tardif April 10, 1714
Son Jerome Girard wed Marie-Catherine Tremblay January 17, 1747
Son Jerome (jr) Girard wed Marguerite Tremblay November 16, 1784
Son Zacharie Girard wed Judith Coté, Februiary 16, 1819
Son Frtnacois Girard wed Mina Tremblay April 21, 1857
Son Alexandre Girard wed Elodie Tremblay, February 10, 1896
Son Charles Edouard Girard wed Carmen Villeneuve August 27, 1941 (my grand father)
Son Gilles Edouard Girard wed Pierrette Berger, September 10 1966 (my parents)
me

4. Leon Girard
Léon Girard, son of Jean and Marie Martin, from Aujac close to Saint-Jean-d'Angély. In 1688, Léon Girard will wed Clémence Beaune, daugther of Jean and Marie-Madeleine Bourgery.

They will have eight children, all born in Lachine, Quebec. The 4 sons had no male children, the 4 daugthers married into the families of Quesnel, Valois, Brunet and Cécire.

In 1704 Léon Girard lost his wife (Clémence) to sickness, he re-married in 1705 but had no children. He was captain of the milicia then.

5. Jean Girard
The dutch connection.... Jean Girard, dutch sailor from Harlem, close to Amsterdam, Holland.

Was briefly engaged to an unammed widow, but the marriage contrat was annulled. Arrived in the new-france. Jean Girard wed Dorothée Rancin, daugther of Charles and Francoise Conflan in 1694, in Quebec city.

Jean Girard had 6 children, 3 sons and 3 daugthers. Two sons married and had children of their own. Francois Girard wed Marie-Reine Lachaine in 1722 and Louis Girard wed Catherine

Rouillard in 1727. Jean Girard was widowed in december 1702 but re-married in April 1703 in Charlesbourg with Catherine Bourret, daugther of Gilles and Marie Bellehache. Catherine already had 9 children when they wed, 2 sons carried the Girard name from this union.

Jean Girard wed Genevieve Delage in 1742 and in 1747, his brother Joseph-Marie Girard wed

Marie-Angélique Dasylva, daugther of Pedro Dasylva (the article mentions that Pedro Dasylva was French Canada's first mailman...)

The four sons: Francois, Louis, Jean and Joseph-Marie had 40 some children, of which 30 or so were boys... many of which died before starting families of their own but the article

suggests that with such high numbers, many of the Girard descendants may be linked to this Dutch ancestor.

The Girards have given many children to the church callings. In the "Mémoires de la Société généalogique canadienne-francaise (vol. XII p.171) it is noted that the family of

Jean-Baptiste Girard (5th genaration descendant of Joachim Girard) and his wife Francoise

Maranda, was noted in the 1959 that this family had "produced" 15 priests, 2 missionaires, 5 monks or brothers and 65 nuns."

The article end there. I hope you enjoyed this.

***This was posted on the genforum.genealogy.com by a Charles Girard.

As I mentioned before my husband descends from the Jean Girard line and I would be interested in corresponding with others who descending from that line.

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 5 Dec 2010 6:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Girard
Thank you for sharing this article. I had seen it several years ago but had forgotten about it. It is a good reference tool. I descend from Pierre & Suzanne Girard.

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 4 May 2011 1:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Girard
Hello Cynthia Watt
I'm a direct descendant of Jean. The only thing missing for that article is that Jean had an addition to his name which was "Rang Drang" after Girard. The source of this I had trouble sorting as no Dutch I new could translate it. Finally I found a Medieval Latin Poetry Professor who was Bulgarian and spoke also Finnish, Swedish,as well as a half a dozen other languages suggested that in Swedish meant perhaps Field worked or labourer anyhow. Looks like the info you've got is what I've read for years in lots of documents. You can contact me directly at wychwoodcraft@rogers.con

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 4 May 2011 1:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Girard
Hello Cynthia Watt
I'm a direct descendant of Jean. The only thing missing for that article is that Jean had an addition to his name which was "Rang Drang" after Girard. The source of this I had trouble sorting as no Dutch I new could translate it. Finally I found a Medieval Latin Poetry Professor who was Bulgarian and spoke also Finnish, Swedish,as well as a half a dozen other languages suggested that in Swedish meant perhaps Field worked or labourer anyhow. Looks like the info you've got is what I've read for years in lots of documents. You can contact me directly at wychwoodcraft@rogers.con

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 6 May 2011 7:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello:

I am convinced that your info will be useful to people who have not have accessed to it when published in La Presse.

In fact that there were more than 5 families of Girard that had descendants in Quebec.

Most of them had male descendants.

My mother is a descendant of Joachim.

Here is a list that I have compiled lately:

If the list is distorted and not easily readable, write to me: jjmmatteau@sympatico.ca

SOUCHES DE FAMILLES GIRARD EN NOUVELLE-FRANCE


GIRARD

Charles Girard dit Sanschagrin (n 1707) (Jean-Marie et Marie Saingenie) de Charnay, diocèse de Lyon, soldat (voir aussi sous Girardet)
Catherine Renault (Renaud)

Christophe Girard (n 1801, France; d1885, Montréal)
Élizabeth Veit (no descendant has been found in Quebec)

Étienne Girard dit Breton (n1671, from Brittany, France; d1751, Québec)
Catherine Marguerite Degrés (Desgrés, De-Gué) amérindienne (micmac)


Étienne Girard (Antoine et Élisabeth Brost (?Provost, DN), de St-Jacques de Nantes.
Geneviève Brunel

Étienne Girard dit Provençal (joseph et Élisabeth Audibert) de Cotignac, diocèse de Fréjus, Provence
Françoise-Raphaël Calvé (Calvet)

François Girard (François et M.-Josephte Latour) de La Rochelle
Françoise Cadoret

Gabriel Girard ou Gérard (Alexandre et Françoise Vuarin (Noaric, DN)
Geneviève Forcier

Guillaume Girard (Guillaume et Adrienne Lecompte,(1720, Normandie, France)
M1 : Louise Deviss
M2 : Marie Josette Briand-Sansregret

Jacques Renel dit Lebrun, dit Fleuridor, dit Floridor, dit Girard, 1689, France
Marie-Jeanne Lalande dit Langliche (some descents have used GIRARD as surname)

Jacques Girard, d 26 juin 1677, Québec (no record of marriage nor descendants)

Jacques Girard (Jacques et Françoise Tremblay) diocèse de Lyon-en-Dombes
Josephte Renaud

Jacques Girard dit Vimont, év. de La Rochelle (no desc. In Quebec)
Marguerite Fontaine

Jean Girard, Cap-Rouge, domestique de Denis-Joseph Ruette

Jean Girard dit Laroche,D 1712, Hôtel-Dieu de Québec, 24 ans.
No marriage record nor proof of descendants have been found.

Jean Girard (Jean et Élisabeth Plansome, Planston, Planteson, de Reingdreing, Haarlem, Hollande
M1 : Dorothée Rancin
M2 : M. Catherine Bourret dit Lepin

Jean Girard (François et Françoise Suzanne) de Ruyer-le-Gravelas, diocèse de Le Mans, Maine, France
Marguerite Bariteau dit Lamarche


Jean Girard (Pierre et Claire Dufresne) St-Laurent de Marseille (another source shows as parents : Jean Girard dit Jean-Pierre and Madeleine Chalut dit Lagrance
M1 : Marie Madeleine De Chambres
M2 : Angelique Halle

Jean-Paschal Girard (Pierre et claire Dufresne) St-Laurent de Marseille, Brother of Jean immédiately above. Same remark as to his parents’ names.
Marie-Louise Desparoy dit Champagne

Jean-Baptiste Girard, sieur de Guillot (Nicolas et Marie Maupti)
M. Charlotte Normand
Pas de descendants in Quebec

Léon Girard (Jean-Marie et Marie martin) d’Aujac, Saintonge
Marie Lelat
Pas de descendants in Quebec

Joachim Girard (Michel Girard de Laudrière et Françoise Ancéaume) de St-Cyr-du-Vaudreuil, Rouen, Normandie
M1 : Marie Halay, le 27 sep 1660, Québec
M2 : Jeanne chalut, 11 juin 1676, Québec

Marc Girard (Jean et Anne Tavernier) de St-Nicolas, v. et arr. Le Mans, Seine, 24 ans au rec. 1666. Île-d’Orléans
Anne Labbé
One daughter only.

Mathurin Girard, 20 ans au rec. 1666, engagé de Denis Guyon
No marriage record nor descendant found in Quebec.


Pierre Girard (Barthélémi et Marie Papin)
Marie-Françoise Pelletier
One daughter only as descendant in Quebec.

Pierre-Jacques (Jace) Girard, born 1646 (René et Marie Besnard) Bures, Normandie
M1 : Françoise Gratiot
M2 : Marguerite Bouchard dit Dorval

Pierre Girard (Pierre et Catherine Surre) Tremblade, diocèse de Saintes, Saintonge
Marguerite Dany or Danis dit Tourangeau

René Girard dit Brindamour (Jacques et Marie Nicole) St-Maxient-de-Beugné, Poitou
Marie-Josephte Poitras
Two daughters known as descendants.

Urbain Girard dit Langevin (Jacques et marie Guinebaud) Blaison, Anjou
Marguerite Voisin
Two children who died at an early age.

GIRARD - Girls

Anne Girard (voir BIOGR.)
Daudelin

Marie Girard (Simon et Françoise Giraudet)

Marguerite Girard (origine inconnue)
Pierre Forcier

Marie Girard (Michel et Charlotte Desnoyers), demi-sœur de Joachim et de Marie-Madeleine Girard
M1 : Rouillard
M2 : Moreau

Marie-Madeleine Girard (Michel et Françoise Ancéaume), sœur de Joachim et demi-sœur de Marie Girard
Charles Jobin

GIRARDEAU

David Girardeau (David et Marie Louvironne ) deSt-Michel de Bordeaux
M1 : Catherine-Romaine Deschambre
M2 : Isabelle Marcot

Jean-Baptiste Girardeau or Girardot (origine inconnue)
Thérèse Neveu

Noël Girardeau

Pierre Girardeau (Louis et Suzanne Billaud)
Françoise Achin (sans postérité)

GIRARDET

Charles Girard dit Sanschagrin (1707) (Jean-Marie et Marie Saingenie) de Charnay, diocèse de Lyon, soldat (voir aussi sous Girardet)
Catherine Renault (Renaud) ou Arneau dit Renaud

GIRARDIER

Jules Girardier (jean et marguerite Alain) de St-Croix, ville d’Arras, Artois
Marie-Louise Hély, 21 avril 1701

GIRARDIN

Léonard Girardin ou Girardy dit Sanssoucy (Joseph et Jeanne Boulanger)
Marie-Charlotte Jolivet

GIRARDOT/GIRARDEAU

Laurent Girardot (Claude et Jeanne Bourgeoyes) de Coulmiers-le-Sec, Bourgogne
Anne Trotochot (Tertochet) (et ascendance de Laurent)

GIRAUD

Étienne Giraud (Jacques et Louise Cailleua) de Vouneuil, Poitou
Marie-Jeanne Berthiaume, 24 nov 1760, Ste-Foy

GIRAUDOT

Jean-François Giraudot (René et Marie vilain) de Mortagne-sur-Gironde, Saintonge, sergent
Marguerite Rocheleau dit Vivier

GIROUARD (exclus)








Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 6 May 2011 8:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello:

Please make the following corrections to the foll. girard:

Jean son of Pierre and claire Dufresne

and to

Jean-Paschal.

Jean Girard (Pierre et Claire Dufresne) St-Laurent de Marseille (another source shows as parents : Jean Girard dit Jean-Pierre and Madeleine Chalut dit Lagrance
Marie Madeleine De Chambres aka Madeleine Chalut or Chaluc dit Lagrange
One son follows :

Jean-Paschal Girard (aka as Jean Girard Jean-Pierre or dit Jean-Pierre)(son of Jean Girard dit Jean-Pierre and Madeleine Chalut dit Lagrance
Marie Madeleine De Chambres aka Madeleine Chalut or Chaluc dit Lagrange
M1 : Marie-Louise Desparoy dit Champagne
M2 : Angélique Halle


Jean-Marie

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 20 Jul 2011 1:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for this article! I am a decent of Jean Girard aswell. I always thought I originated from France. Thank you very much.

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 21 Jul 2011 1:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello:

Yes, you did, Joachim was born in France about 1642.

Fortunately we have his father: Michel and his grand father:

Marin Girard, born about 1575.

Jean-Marie

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 25 Jul 2011 12:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,

Can you explain more please? We show that Jean Girard married to Dorothee Rancin descended from Jean Girard married to Elizabeth Plansome. The marriage records shows they were from Holland. How does that tie into Joachim line from France?

Re: 5 Girard Sources back to 1650's - Quebec/New France

Posted: 25 Jul 2011 1:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
bonjour Cynthia:

It would be rather impossible to demontrate that the Joachim and Jean's ancestry do connect in the pre-1700 century in Europe.

However, the database of descendants of Joachim in North America does I believe contain some intermingling via marriages of both sources of Girard. I have made some annotations in capturing the data. Here is one case:

Joachim's grand daughter, Catherine Rouillard married Louis Girard, a descendant of Jean and Racin.

Jean-Marie

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