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Gear/Gearr/McGirr/MacAmghearr

James Shortt of Castleshort (View posts)
Posted: 23 May 2000 12:53PM GMT
as a point of information from The Gaelic galloglas clan MacAnghearr (Tyrone/Armagh - Ireland) are derived the folowing surnames by transliteration : McGirr, MacGirr, Girr, Geere, Gear, Gearr
and by translation Shortt, Short, Shorte and Shortte.
Gear from Ghearr; the gaelic for Short. Gear is in Scotland part of the Ross Clann.

Re: Gear/Gearr/McGirr/MacAmghearr

Posted: 4 Jan 2014 2:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Jan 2014 2:14AM GMT
Surnames: Shortt,McGirr, Gear
Hi,

From my understanding of the ulster Annals. McGhirr is too well established a name in Tyrone to associated with the arrival of the Galloglas. What clan is this you speak of the McAnghearr. Anglicisation of Irish surnames was a very crude translation of phono semantic words. Ghirr sounds like gearr which translates in english to short. That is my understanding. I have referenced the 19th century household names listed in Irleand and can find no Gearr surname. The only surname i can find is Gear which is unique to Kerry and unlikely to be technically associated with McGirr. Is Gearr even a surname, i guess that's my question. I think it is not, from basic research and at least it does not exist. McGirr etc is well established and based in Tyrone. Where is MacAnghearr coming from? I may have seen it in a text , but all i can see now is MacGhirr. McGhirr is associated with the Cenél Fearadhaigh (clan) by name which is clearly illustrated in the ulster Annals. There is a DNA group of the Cenel Eoghan which i suggest you look at. Please explain this association with Gearr. Woulfe may have mentioned it in his book in the 1920's but he found no trace of it either. However as a surname that never existed as far as i can see.
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