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GEAKE family c1840 ~ Cornwall England

Re: Geake family

Posted: 30 Oct 2010 5:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Geake
Just read your post from 8 years ago. I am also descended from an Edward Geake b. 1726 Egloskerry, Cornwall - one of 9 children. Father: Anthony Geake. Mother: Catherine ??? - have you traced surname? I have 2 possibilities - Edgecumbe(Edgecumbe) or Pryor. Jenny

Re: Geake family

Posted: 14 Nov 2010 9:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Your Edward GEAKE and my husband's ancestor, Edward's older brother John GEAKE were both children of Anthony GEAKE and Catherine PRYOR [EDGECUMBE was a surname that I posted online several years ago because of something I read online regarding Catherine - it was INCORRECT info].

Anthony and Catherine married Sep 4 1725 in Egloskerry where Catherine was born.

Catherine PRYOR born Apr 18 1701 and bpt May 13 1701 in Egloskerry, d/o Edward PRYOR and Joan MARTIN who married there on Jun 18 1689.

I have posted Edward PRYOR's ancestry online and we cannot be sure of Joan MARTIN's since there are 2 Joan MARTINs baptised in Egloskerry in 1660 and 1667 that fit ...

Have you followed your family tree very far? I've been researching since 1998 :o)

Re: Geake family

Posted: 15 Nov 2010 8:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for getting get to me so quickly. I am very happy to get your confirmation that it is Catherine PRYOR. This made sense to me - I just couldn't work out why everyone thought it was Edgecumbe. I am a bit of a "newbie" to all this genealogy caper. All started in Feb 2010 following a conversation with my great uncle, which brought up some questions. Now I seem to be an addict with software and everything! With regard to the Geakes I have got back to the father of Anthony Geake (b. 10 Feb 1649) who married a Joane Gerry (although I am not 100% sure about this wife as yet). I am finding that there is alot of misinformation out there on people's family trees which I pick up when I do double/triple checking through the parish records, Phillimores Marriage registers etc. Am having so much fun! Jenny

Re: Geake family

Posted: 15 Nov 2010 10:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Joan Martin. I have been thinking. If it is the Joan Martin b. 1660 then she would have been 29 when married and 42 giving birth with last child (all female I note!). The Joan Martin b. 1667 would have been 22 when married and 35 with last child. I know which one I would put my money on! Pool old Edward had no male heir! Jenny

Re: Geake family

Posted: 17 Nov 2010 4:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
I understand the dilemma regarding Joan because Edward was 35 when they married ... that's what made me *hesitate* assuming that his wife was the 22 yr old Joan :o)

I am the OPC [Online Parish Clerk-Genealogy] for Week St Mary Cornwall and most of what I've gleaned for these families has come from parish registers from some of the other OPCs.

Anthony GEAKE's baptism has not been found but his father Anthony Sr did indeed marry Joan GERRY on Nov 8 1681 in St Clether ... Anthony Sr was bpt Feb 10 1649 in Lawhitton and he was buried Dec 23 1737 in Trewen.

Wife Joan GERRY was bpt Jul 6 1651 in Trewen and was also buried there on Aug 1 1724. Joan was the d/o John GERRY and Elizabeth HICKS who married Jan 20 1644-45 in Trewen.

Here's the URL for my online database where you can compare notes ~ let me know if you find any mistakes or if you can ADD anything to what I have found --
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

Thanks!

Re: Geake family

Posted: 18 Nov 2010 10:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Geake
Wow! You are a fantastic fund of information. I am hoping to allocate time to check out your family tree this weekend - thank you for the link! I will get back to you with any additional info (probably unlikely as you have access to info that is probably far beyond my reach down here in the southern extremities of Oz) or, if you (hopefully) you don't mind, any queries. I am still somewhat amazed that a question to my great uncle about a middle name of my, now deceased, grandmother has propelled me into this fascinating journey. I will be in touch!! Jenny

Re: Geake family

Posted: 20 Nov 2010 5:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Geake Webb Lane
I had got to Robert Geak m Frances (?) and you have found a Frances Hawton which will keep me looking! Of their children on your tree I was missing a few. I follow their child Anthony (chr. 10.02.1649) who married Joane Gerry in St Clether. Then follow the elusive birth of Anthony (b abt 1695) who married Catherine Prior/Pryor/Pryer. And concur with all children except the first Joan who you have found born prior to marriage in Trewen – very interesting!
I then follow Edward who married Mary Sargent (By the way -I have found marriage to be 14 Aug 1758 in Lezant via OPC and Phillimore’s Register). All christening dates agree with what I have found.
Following Thomas Geake and Peggy Langmaid/mead I can only add one bit of info, their child Elizabeth Geake was also known as Betsy (family folklore)
This is then where it gets interesting with regard to the marriages of the children of Thomas and Peggy Langmead/maid.
I descend via either Mary or Catherine Geake (confusion reigns over which one which I shall explain). One of these 2 married a Thomas Webb and had four children (Thomas Geake Webb, Catherine Webb, Mary Geake Webb and Edmund Webb), three of which came to Australia in 1847 with their now widowed mother (Mary or Catherine). Edmund Webb became relatively famous in Bathurst, New South Wales.
I refer you to this link: www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A060400b.htm
The Australian Dictionary of Biographies states that Edmund Webbs mother was Catherine nee Geake, however all the transcribed birth records I have found in Cornwall state that the mother was a Mary – hence the confusion!
So I am intrigued by the marriages you have for both Catherine (chr 14.04.1801) and Mary Geake (chr 17.02.1796) on your tree as one of these two is my 4th great grandmother marrying a Thomas Webb (chr 28 Nov 1799 St Mellion and died 29.03.1832 in Cornwall.)
Other children of Thomas Geake & Peggy Langmead who ended up in Australia:
Elizabeth “Betsy” Geake( chr 15 Feb 1803) who married Richard Lane in St Germans prior to immigrating to Australia in 1838. Note: His sister Joanna also immigrated with husband Nicholas Bray, as did his brother William and sister Ann Lane (who married Edwin “Parson” Tom in Cornwall prior to immigrating to Australia).
John Geake (chr 28.09.1804) who immigrated to Australia and died in Victoria, Australia 8 Jan 1884
All settled in and around Bathurst and Orange in New South Wales and continued intermarrying between the Geakes, Webbs, Lanes & Toms – all devout Methodists who are fairly well known in this area of Australia. The amount of intermarrying between these families in Australia makes my family tree interesting, to say the least! The properties they settled on, “Springfield”, and area of Byng are all synonymous with Cornish immigration, to the point that the area was, at one time, known as the Australian Cornish Settlement). Incredibly large family reunions still occur on a fairly regular basis (ie once every 10 years).

So, back to my problem: you have completely different husbands for Mary AND Catherine Geake (children of Thomas Geake & Peggy Langmead). How have you established these husbands? Perhaps some of the historical data collated and published here in Australia is completely incorrect!
Note that I have not been able to find any record of a Thomas Webb marrying either a Mary or a Catherine Geake anywhere, but I also note that their children were christened Wesleyan Methodists on the Liskeard Circuit (I have found them) – have not been able to find any marriages on this circuit online.
Phew! Have I written enough!! Jenny

Re: Geake family

Posted: 20 Nov 2010 5:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Also just found this on OPC regarding Edward Geake Marriage to an Ursula (you have her surname as Palmer) abt 1620:
Marriages - Details of record ID 566058:
Parish or Registration District: Landrake with St. Erney
Date: 30-Oct 1820
GROOM: Edward GEAKE
Groom's age:
Groom's condition: B
Groom's rank/profession: Merchant
Groom's residence: St. Germans
Father:
Father's rank/profession:
BRIDE: Ursula PANTER
Bride's age:
Bride's condition: S
Bride's rank/profession:
Bride's residence: St. Erney
Father:
Father's rank/profession:
Banns(B) or Licence(L): L
Groom Signed(S) or Marked(M): S
Bride Signed(S) or Marked(M): S
Witness 1: Eliza Buckingham
Witness 2: Catherine Geake
Register notes: Other witnesses: Elizabeth Geake,Jonathan Palmer, Philip Palmer, Henry Thomas.

Re: Geake family

Posted: 14 Feb 2011 3:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Geake, Westlake, Gartrell
I believe my six-greats grandmother to have been Mary Geake, born about 1717 in or near Lezant, Cornwall, England. She married Walter Westlake on 31 Aug 1738 in Cornwall. Walter Westlake was born 31 Aug 1713 in Lezant. They had a daughter, Joan Gertrude Westlake, born in Stoke Climsland in 1740, who married in Lezant on 15 Jan 1761 Edward Gartrell. I have never been able to find Mary Geake's parents. Can you help?

Re: Geake family

Posted: 15 Feb 2011 4:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Ursula was definitely PALMER - her parents were Jonathan PALMER and Ursula BLAKE and she and Edward gave 2 of their children PALMER for a middle name.

You should write to the OPC in question or the OPC site in particular all of us appreciate corrections :o)

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