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Henry Gamage - lived in Swansea Wales in 1835

Henry Gamage - lived in Swansea Wales in 1835

Posted: 18 Feb 2002 2:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am looking for information on the family of Henry Gamage who lived in Swansea Wales in 1835. He had a daughter Ruth (b. about 1850), Maria (b. 1835/1836), and Mary Louise (b. 1852). In 1862 he lived in Flint Parish Northop, England.

Re: Henry Gamage - lived in Swansea Wales in 1835

Brian (View posts)
Posted: 26 May 2002 4:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,

I have census info on Gamages in Swansea 1841/51 and there was a Henry and his family with wife Margaret, son Henry 8 and daughters Maria 6 and Hannah 4, living in Upper High Street. He was a joiner born c. 1811, wife same age, all born in Swansea.

My interest is an ancestor of the same line (probably going back to c1300), and who were local lords of the Ogwr lands in 1500's. I haven't linked the Swansea Gamages to earlier ones yet, so if you have info this would be good to have.

This is the 1851 info:
181 HIGH STREET GAMAGE HENRY HD W 41 GLA SWANSEA
2466 554 181 HIGH STREET GAMAGE MARIA DA U 16 GLA SWANSEA
2466 554 181 HIGH STREET GAMAGE HANNAH DA U 14 GLA SWANSEA
2466 554 181 HIGH STREET GAMAGE MARGARET DA - 8 GLA SWANSEA
2466 554 181 HIGH STREET GAMAGE MARY DA - 6 GLA SWANSEA
2466 554 181 HIGH STREET GAMAGE DANIEL SO - 3 GLA SWANSEA
2466 554 181 HIGH STREET GAMAGE RUTH DA - 11M GLA SWANSEA

Good luck!

Re: Henry Gamage - lived in Swansea Wales in 1835

Obie (View posts)
Posted: 27 May 2002 2:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Brian,
Thank you for sending me the information on Henry Gamage.
This was the Henry I was looking for.
Henry is my great-great-great grandfather. Do you have any additional information on Henry, his family or parents?
Henry's daughter Maria is my great-great grandmother.
see below:
Issue: (Henry and Margaret Gamage)
2. i. Maria, b. in Swansea, Wales on 3 Sept. 1836 or 1835; mar. Edward Bennett; d. on 14 Feb. 1918; bur. Fairview
Cemetery, Catasauqua, PA.
3. ii. Ruth, b. in Swansea and died at age 12; d. in Flint Parish of Northop in England on 25 July 1862.
4. iii. Mary Louise, b. in Swansea on 18 Aug. 1852; mar. Isaac W. Anderton; d. in MacKay, Idaho on 27 May 1925; bur. Mt. McCaleb Cemetery, MacKay, Idaho.

Re: Henry Gamage - lived in Swansea Wales in 1835

Brian Thomas (View posts)
Posted: 3 Jul 2002 4:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gamage
Obie Hi,

Sorry for late reply. I can't remember what info I gave before, but here (again?) is what I have from local records on the Gamage's - parish records and census for 1841: see below



Pre-1837 Surname Gamage parish data for St. Mary's, Swansea
Burials:
Ann Gamage dtr of Thomas, Mr June 4 1682
Letis Gamage wife of Thomas, Mr June 2 1700

Marriages of Gamages:
Mary to William Clowes 7.11.1819 - witness Wm. Gamage/Wm. Davies ('mark' Wm. Clowes
William to Ann Rogers 14.7.1822 (b) Mary age 18 signed)
John to Maria Fisher 25.5.1825 (b)
Thomas to Elizabeth Rees 30.12.1827 (L)
James to Ann Williams 23.3.1830 (b)

Maria Gamage (minor) to Wm. Harris (full age) Mason both of Swan St 29.9.1849
(Fathers - Edward Harris and Wm. Gamage both 'potters')

Charles Gamage (full age) Potter of Swan Row father Wm. Gamage potter to
Ann Wilks (full age) spinster of Swan Row father Elias Wilks a butcher on 1.8.1847

1853 11.9.1853
Wm Gamage Full age batchelor, mason of 1 Emma St. Father John Gamage, joiner
to Mary Rees Full age spinster (illiterate) 11 Bethesda St. Father David Rees, mason

St. Mary's Gamage Baptisms:
John f. Thomas Clerk 7.5.1689
James f. William 7.8.1805
James f. William 15.2.1807
Henry f. William 4.8.1809
William f. John carpenter 24.6.1781
Maria Elizabeth. f. John joiner m. Maria 11.2.1827 age 1m
Wm. John f. John carpenter m. Maria 25.3.1829
Maryanne Carolin f. John joiner m. Maria 17.7.1831 age 2m
James Charles f. John Joiner m. Maria 9.10.1833 Swansea
1861 Little Emma St
John Gammage hd 60 Carpenter b.Glam (b.c.1801)
Maria Gamage wife 61 do (b.c. 1800)
Wm. Henry Burtonshaw g/son 7 do
St. Mary's Burials
William Gamage 2.10.1848 age 51 (b.c. 1797) Brother of Mary (m.Wm. Clowes)?
Gamage 1841 census
Wm. Gamage joiner c.1777 (parents/marriage/burial?)
Dorothy wife c.1767 (maiden name? Birthplace/burial?)
Mary dtr c.1801 m. Wm. Clowes 1819
William son c.1801 m. Ann Rogers 1822 (Chas 1823, Ann 1826, Sarah 1828, Mariah 1830, Wm 1834)
John son c.1801 m. Maria Fisher 1825 (Wm 1828, Mary 1830, Chas 1832, Frederick 1938)
James son c.1806 m. Ann Williams 1830 (no kids yet)
Thomas son c.1806 m. Eliz. Rees 1827 (no kids yet)
Henry son c.1816 m. Margaret (Henry 1833, Maria 1835, Hannah 1837)
BACK LANE GAMAGE DOROTHY 74 - NO 1426/06 (c.1767)
BACK LANE GAMAGE MARRIET (FEMALE) 10 YES 1426/06
BACK LANE GAMAGE WILLIAM 64 JOINER YES 1426/06 (c.1777)
CATTLE ST GAMAGE THOMAS 35 CARPENTER NO 1421/24 (c.1806)
EBENEZER ST GAMAGE ANN 35 - YES 1426/06 (Williams)
EBENEZER ST GAMAGE JAMES 35 JOINER YES 1426/06 (c.1806)
EMMA STREET GAMAGE CHARLES 9 - YES 1426/09
EMMA STREET GAMAGE FREDERICK 3 - YES 1426/09
EMMA STREET GAMAGE JOHN 40 - YES 1426/09 (c.1801)
EMMA STREET GAMAGE MARIA 40 - NO 1426/09 (Fisher)
EMMA STREET GAMAGE MARY 11 - YES 1426/09
EMMA STREET GAMAGE WILLIAM 13 - YES 1426/09
NEW STREET GAMAGE ANN 15 - YES 1426/06
NEW STREET GAMAGE ANN 40 - NO 1426/06 (Rogers)
NEW STREET GAMAGE CHARLES 18 - YES 1426/06
NEW STREET GAMAGE MARIAH 11 - YES 1426/06
NEW STREET GAMAGE SARAH 13 - YES 1426/06
NEW STREET GAMAGE WILLIAM 7 - YES 1426/06
NEW STREET GAMAGE WILLIAM 40 POTTER YES 1426/06 (c.1801)
UPPER HIGH ST GAMAGE HANNAH 4 - YES 1426/08
UPPER HIGH ST GAMAGE HENRY 8 - - 1426/08
UPPER HIGH ST GAMAGE HENRY 30 JOINER YES 1426/08
UPPER HIGH ST GAMAGE MARGARET 30 - YES 1426/08
UPPER HIGH ST GAMAGE MARIA 6 - YES 1426/08
UPPER HIGH ST GAMAGE WILLIAM - - YES 1426/08

Only Dorothy, Ann and Maria were not born in Glamorgan (where? see 1851 census)
Ann and Maria (c.1801). Dorothy (c.1767)?
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I've discovered the origins of the name and some history of the family up to the 1500's, but have'nt made the connectionss to bridge the years between. I came across a referrence to a John Gamage in 1740's as witness signatory to 4 documents of the burgess of Swansea - deeds etc. I guess he was a town official...

To date, I see there in the census there is a William Gamage born 1777 (?) father is John and who is a probable ancester to Henry.

I'd like to be able trace these Gamages of Swansea to the Gamage's, lords of Glamorgan, mentioned in several places. I think we can safely say we have origins going back to the first norman lords after 1066 who came from the 'Gameche' region around Rouen.

The only Swansea Gamage connection for sure is a Mary Gamage of Coity castle marrying in to the powerful Herbet family of Swansea

More to follow, hopefully...

Brian

Re: Henry Gamage - lived in Swansea Wales in 1835

Posted: 26 Aug 2009 9:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Brian, thanks for the Gamage info. My Great great great great grandfather was John Gamage joiner of Emma Street as shown in the info you supplied. I can see my Great great grandfather Willian Henry Burtonshaw living with his grandparents on your info.
Hope you are well Marcus Burtonshaw,newton,swansea,

Re: Henry Gamage - lived in Swansea Wales in 1835

Posted: 27 Aug 2009 11:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gammage, Gamage
Greetings all,

My Gammage connection is in Northamptonshire. I suspect that prior to 1480 it was in Wales. Probably no links available before then but it would be nice to find a link to the Welsh lines.

Best wishes, Ian Gammage
iang@grapevine.com.au
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