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Father of Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jill Wane (View posts)
Posted: 9 Sep 1999 12:36AM GMT
I am looking for the father of my husband. My husbands birth name was Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen, born 6th May 1944 in Birmingham England. His father we believe was a chef in the royal dutch household. We believe the family lived in Dordrecht, Holland. We would be interested in any information about the family.

Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jim Gaasedelen (View posts)
Posted: 16 Sep 1999 1:45PM GMT
Do you know any more information about Cornelius Gaasedelen?
What was his father's name? Where was he born? Where was your
husband born and what is your husband's date of birth?
As far as I know all the Gaasedelen's in the world are related.
It is a small group of persons and we are all acquainted.
Thanks for the information, and I hope I can be of help to you.
Jim Gaasedelen

Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jill Wane (View posts)
Posted: 27 Sep 1999 4:30AM GMT
Jim
We believe my husband was named after his father, so his father's name is Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen. We believe he was the personal chef to Queen Willhemina of Holland when she came over to England during the 2nd World War to seek sancutary. Bob (my husband) was born we believe in Birmingham England 6th May 1944. His mothers name was Elizabeth Millard.
After the war we think Bob's father returned to Dordrecht Holland, and married, and we think Bob has a half sister born in Holland in about 1954.
We think Bob's father has sisters, one a Psychiatrist, and one a doctor, but are not sure if there were any brothers.
We also believe that Bob's grandfather had a plantation in the Dutch East Indies in Shrewingham.
Bob did have a letter from the family in 1964, enclosed in it was a photograph of his half sister playing the piano,but this was lost many years ago, and Bob never tried to contact the family at the time. I would be grateful of any hep or contact names you can give.
Thanks
Jill

Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jim Gaasedelen (View posts)
Posted: 27 Sep 1999 9:04AM GMT
There is a group of Gaasedelen's living in the Minneapolis, St.Paul
area. There is also a group living in the Kenyon, Minnesota area.
I will contact some of my relatives living here to see what I can
find out. Owen Gaasedelen (the younger), spent about one year living
in Norway. He spent time at the Gaasedelen Farm in Vang, Valdres, Norway.
If he doesn't know anything, he may be able to put us in touch with our relatives
living in Norway. Most of the relatives still in Norway have changed their
name from Gaasedelen to Steinsvoll. If you try to email persons by
the Steinsvoll name living around Vang, Laerdal, and Sogne Fjord area,
they will probably be Gaasedelens. Vang, Norway is where the name Gaasedelen
originates. There are Gaasedelens buried in the church yards all around that area.
I have some pedigree information which I will gladly share with you. It might allow
you to figure out who your husband's father was.
Bye for now, Jim Gaasedelen Jim@gaas.cc

Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jill Wane (View posts)
Posted: 28 Sep 1999 12:32AM GMT
Thanks for the info Jim, I'll follow that up, but I believe that Bobs family still retain the Gaasedelen name, and are still living in Holland in Dordrecht, or at least his immediate family is. I should imaging his Dad was born round about 1910-1920's. I should like to know more about the Dutch East Indies plantation connection, but I don't know what sort of plantation it was. I might try looking up Shrewingham on the internet see what I come up with.
Write soon
Jill

Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jim Gaasedelen (View posts)
Posted: 28 Sep 1999 10:06AM GMT
Hi Jill, It might be of help to me to know where you are presently living.
In addition, I would suggest that you go to
http://familytreemaker.com/genealogy/users and do a scan on the
last name steinsvoll. You will find a Boye K Steinsvoll who has a wife who
was born about 1908. It would be a hunch of mine that this man could be a brother
to your husband's father. I once saw some notes taken by Owen Gaasedelen
that indicated that there were about six siblings I believe all born in
Norway and about half of them had changed their names to Steinsvoll. The others kept
the name Gaasedelen. I will keep digging.
Bye for now, Jim

Gaasedelen

Jill Wane (View posts)
Posted: 29 Sep 1999 12:26AM GMT
Jim,
Bob and I are living in Coventry, England.
Bobs father met his mum when he was over here during the war, whilst he was working as personal chef to Queen Willhemina of Holland.
Where do you live?
Will search at the website you gave. I am also seraching for plantations in the Dutch East Indies for a place called Shrewingham, that Bob's paternal grandfather owned. Any leads in that area?
Jill

Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jim Gaasedelen (View posts)
Posted: 29 Sep 1999 7:11AM GMT
Hi Jane,

I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Most of the remaining
Gaasedelen family members live in Minneapolis or southern
Minnesota (the Kenyon area). Do you happen to know where your
father-in-law was born? It is my understanding that the
Gaasedelens who did not come to the US, were born in
Norway. I have not ever heard mention of emigrants from
Norway by the Gaasedelen name going anywhere but to the
US. From this limited knowlegde, it would lead me to conclude
that your father-in-law was born in Norway. I would be very
interested to know otherwise, if you know. If this is the case,
however, his name was likely changed to Cornelius Fitz later.
The names used from generation to generation were consistent.
They were Nils, Ole, Knut, Rangdi, Boye and others I can't
remember. They were very Norwegian names. There seem to be no
more Gaasedelens left in Norway, only Steinsvolls;
some of whom were previouly Gaasedelens. I will also
look for a Shrewingham property if you give me some more
information about it. Is this the property name, Shrewingham?
What is the exact location as best you know?
Bye for now, Jim Gaasedelen

Cornelius Fitz Gaasedelen

Jill Wane (View posts)
Posted: 30 Sep 1999 12:40AM GMT
Hi Jim
Can't offer you much more info, because Bob's father and Mum weren't married, a lot of what we know is just 'here say'.
We have no idea of where Bob's father was born, only what his job was when he was in Englnad as I have mentioned before. Regarding Shrewingham, we are not even sure of that. The name could have been misheard, or I have mispelt it, but if it is right we believe that it is either a town in the Dutch East Indies, or that is tha name of the plantation owned by his grandfather, who I presume would also be a Gaasedelen. We need to get hold of Bob's original Birth Certificate, as he was adopted in 1947, by his maternal grandparents, who he believed was his real parents until he was 17. He had a letter from his fathers wife in 1964, when he was at university, but lost it and any other information including address etc.
I have e-mailed a Luc Lucassen in Holland who is at one of the Universities there. He is doing research into people wo emigrated from Holland during the war. With Bob's father's specific background, he might be able to unravel more informations about him.
It could even be that the surname is wrong, as Bob said that the name was Gardeslan or similar, came accros this spelling that seemed to fit the pronunciation Bob gave me.
I appreciate all of your help.
Jill

Cornelius Fitz

Jim Gaasedelen (View posts)
Posted: 30 Sep 1999 10:11AM GMT
Hi Jane,
I do hope you obtain your goal of finding your husband's
father. I also hope I can be of help to you.
From a genetic standpoint, the Gaasedelens are
fair in skin color, with blue eyes and blond hair. Stature
is average with no unusual tallness or shortness. I don't know
how much is known about Cornelius the elder, but if
he was very dark, he is most likely not a Gaasedelen.
Broad generalities about the Gaasedelen line are that there
are family problems with deafness and kidney stones. As it happens,
though, my family has not had these problems so this is not much
to go on. From the rest of a medical history standpoint,
we enjoy excellent health as a group, with better than
average longevity. It would be of interest to me if you
described your husband's physical characteristics and those of
his mother if they are known.
Bye for now, Jim
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