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Wm Farrell & Elizabeth Guilfoyle- m & children's b's&baptisms

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Wm Farrell & Elizabeth Guilfoyle- m & children's b's&baptisms

Posted: 10 Apr 2012 10:50PM GMT
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William Farrell & Elizabeth Guilfoyle - marriage & children's births & baptisms; 1862 - 1880

Letter dated 24 November 2004 from Church of St Mary, 440 Grand Street, New York, New York, 10002 (212) 674- 3266 (They also hold the records for St Rose.): …
1) Enclosed are two copies of the baptism records of two of William's and Elizabeth's children. These copies contain the name of the town and/ or county in Ireland where the parents were born.
2) The marriage certificate of William and Elizabeth is enclosed.
3) The parents' date of birth and baptismal information were not found in our records.
4) In reference to Peter's and Mary's family, I was only able to find the baptismal information of one of their children. I only found James Farrell's baptism information. No other information was found.
5) While looking through our records, I found the baptismal information of a Joseph Farrell. His parents were Michael Farrell and Ann Doyle, and his ***godfather*** was William Farrell. I sent Joseph's baptismal certificate to you just in case it might be of help to you.
6) On certain baptismal certificates, Elizabeth's last name was spelled differently. It was spelled as Gillfoyle, Killfoyle, Guilford, Guilfoyle, and Galfoil.
7) On the baptismal certificates, the spelling of William's and Elizabeth's names and their children names were spelled differently. This is because their names were written in Latin, in St Rose's records.
8) On Bridget's and Joseph Farrell's baptismal certificates their parents were William Farrell and Bridget Douey [sic- but spelling varies]. I sent you their certificates just in case they might be of help to you.
… [Enclosures:]
-Certificate of Marriage, St Mary Church, 440 Grand Street, New York, New York, 10002; This is to certify that William Farrell and Elizabeth Gilfoil [sic] were lawfully married on the 12th day October 1862 according to the rites of the Roman Catholic Church and in conformity with the laws of the State of New York, Rev[erend] Jo [sic] Boyer officiating in the presence of John Mooney and Ann Mc Cormick witnesses as appears from the marriage register of this Church,
[Comment: William and Elizabeth were married at St Mary's and their first two children- Thomas and Edward- were baptized at St Mary's. All of the rest of their children- except Joseph, who died the day after he was born- were baptized at St Rose. [The east end of Grand Street where St Mary's was located was just north of the seventh ward.]
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Mary [sic], 440 Grand Street; This is to certify that Thomas Farrell child of William Farrell and Elizabeth Kilfoyle [sic] born in New York City, New York on the second of December 1863 was baptized on the 6th day of December 1863 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev J B Daly the sponsors being Patrick Kilfoyle [sic] and Margaret Kilfoyle [sic]
[Comment: ASSUME since Thomas was William and Elizabeth first child that Patrick and Margaret are Elizabeth's parents. Patrick and Margaret may also be Elizabeth's brother and sister, or her brother and his wife. Two persons listed in the records as Farrell's were godparents/ sponsors in 1872 and 1880. However, other female sponsors may have had the maiden name of Farrell. ASSUME one of William's parents was not a sponsor of the first or second child of William and Elizabeth because they were dead or in Ireland.]
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Mary [sic], 440 Grand Street; This is to certify that Edward Farrell child of William Farrell and Elizabeth Gilfoyle born in New York City, New York on the 13th day of May 1866 was baptized on the 20th day of May 1866 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev M D St John the sponsors being James Grimes and Mary Sheery from the baptismal register of this Church.
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify that Margaret Farrell child of William Farrell and Betsey Gillfoyle [sic] born in New York, New York on the 12th day of February 1868 was baptized on the 16th of February according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev P J Daly, the sponsors being John Sharey and Mary Phillips as appears from the baptismal register of his Church.
-Certificate of baptism- Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify that Johannem Farrell, child of Gulillemo [sic, William] Farrell and Elisabeth [sic] Gillfoyle [sic], born in New York City, New York on the 16th day of June 1872 was baptized on the 23rd day of June 1872 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev. P Z Daly, the sponsors being Patrus Farrell and Anna Minar [or MinOr.].
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify that William Farrell child of William Farrell and Elizabeth Killfoyle [sic], born in New York City, New York on the 30th day of May 1870 was baptized on the 5th day of June 1870 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev P J Daly, the sponsors being John Mooney and Ann Gibbons from the baptismal register of this Church.
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify Johannen Franciscum [Francis] Farrell child of Gulielmo [William] Farrell and Elisabeth Guilford [sic] born in New York City, New York on the 17th day of April 1876 was baptized on the 25th day of April, according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev E J O'Gorwan, the sponsors being Henericus [Henry] Mc Nulty and Anna Muldoon from the baptismal register of this church.
[Comment: Henry Mc Nulty age 30, born Ireland and wife Mary [Farrell?], age 25 born Ireland are the next family enumerated after the William Farrell family in the 1880 census.]
-Page 172 "Registrum Baptizorum in Ecclesia", Marian Farrell , born 26 December 1873, baptized 4 January 1874, child of Gulielmo [William] Farrell from the Co[unty] West Meath [sic- one word Westmeath in the next mention of it, and in 1987 atlas] in Hibernia [Ireland] [Comment: Researcher indicated West Meath = "father's place of birth." and Elizabeth Galfoil [sic] from Roscommon in Hibernia [Ireland] [Comment: Not indicated whether "Roscommon" means the county or town. Westmeath was a county] [Researcher indicated Roscommon = "mother's place of birth."] "Patrini fuerent" [= god parents] Franciscus [Francis] Higgins and Mary Boyd.
-Certificate of baptism [stapled to "Registrum Baptizorum"], Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street. This is to certify that Marian Farrell, child of Gulielmo Farrell and Elizabeth Galfoil [sic], born in New York City, New York, on the 26th day of December 1873 was baptized on the 4th day of January 1874, according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev[erend] "Ed. Th." Mc Guiley, the sponsors being Franciscus Higgins and Mary Boyd, from the baptismal register of this church.
-Johannem [John] Farrell baptized on [date of baptism not shown], born 16 June [year not shown], child of Gulillemo Farrell "ex loco" Westmeath [= William's place of birth per researcher] in Hibernia and Elisabeth Killfoyle [sic- certificate starts the last name with a "G."], "ex loco" Galway in Hibernia [= Elizabeth's place of birth per the researcher. Galway shown as both a town and a county on an 1987 atlas map. The baptismal record of Marian Farrell born 26 December 1873 gives Elizabeth's birthplace as Roscommon- whether town or county not indicated.]; "patrini fuerunt": Patrus Farrell and Anna MinAr or MinOr, Reverend P Z Daly.
-Certificate of baptism- Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify that Johannem Farrell, child of Gulillemo [sic, William] Farrell and Elisabeth [sic] Gillfoyle [sic], born in New York City, New York on the 16th day of June 1872 was baptized on the 23rd day of June 1872 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev. P Z Daly, the sponsors being Patrus Farrell and Anna Minar.
-Certificate of baptism- Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify that Patritium [sic] Farrell, child of Gulielmo [William] Farrell and Elizabeth Killfoyle [sic], born in New York City, New York, [date of birth not given- Comment: The other baptized children of William Farrell and Elizabeth Guilfoyle were baptized two to ten days after birth- with six children being baptized 4 to seven days after birth.] was baptized 17th day of January 1878, according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev[erend] Edward Th[omas] Mc Ginley the sponsors ["patrini fuerent"-godparents] being Patritin [Patrick] Sheeny and Helena Mc Ennulty [sic] as appears from the baptismal register of this Church.
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify that Elizabeth Farrell child of William Farrell and Elizabeth Guilfoyle born in New York City, New York on the second day of February 1880 was baptized on the 4th day of February 1880 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Reverend Richard Brennan the sponsors being John Conroy and MARGARET FARRELL from the baptismal register of this Church.
[Note: Who is this MARGARET FARRELL? - other children are not old enough to have wives so ASSUME= sister or sister in law of William Farrell - or Peter Farrell's wife or daughter.]
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Rose, 34 Cannon Street; This is to certify that James Farrell child of Peter Farrell and Mary Phillips born in New York City on the seventh day of October 1870 was baptized on the 16th day of October 1870 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev I F Mee [spelling?] the sponsors being Christopher Fullan and Margaret Gilfoy [sic- per certificate] from the baptismal register of this Church;
[Comment: As of April, 2012 no known connection between the following three certs and William Farrell- born calculated 1841]
[Comment: None of the sponsors/ parents are the same as the sponsors of William Farrell's and Elizabeth Guilfoyle's children.]
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Mary [sic], 440 Grand Street; this is to certify that JOSEPH FARRELL, child of Michael Farrell and Ann Doyle born in New York City, New York on the sixth of February 1862 was baptized on the 16th day of February 1862 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev Jas Boyer the sponsors being WILLIAM FARRELL [Do not KNOW if this is my William, but William was married at this church on 12 October 1862. Michael might be my William's brother.] and Rose Mullins as appears from the baptismal register of this Church.
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Rose [sic], 34 Cannon Street; this is to certify that Josephum [sic] Farrell child of Guillilmo [William] Farrell and Brigita DouEy [probably the same person spelled DouDy on the cert of Bridget E Farrell] born in New York City, New York, on the 14th day of March 1884 was baptized on the 21st day of March 1884 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev Edward M McSinley the sponsors being Maria Farrell and [line drawn thru the blank] from the baptismal records of this Church.
[Comment: William, who was born 1870- the son of my William Farrell- would have been only 14, and his sister, Marian, would have been only seven. Maria was the name of the wife of Peter Farrell- my William's brother. It is possible she was the sponsor.]
-Certificate of baptism, Church of St Rose [sic], 34 Cannon Street; this is to certify that Bridget E Farrell child of William Farrell and Bridget Doudy [sic- probably the same person spelled DouEy on the certificate of Josephum Farrell] born in New York City, New York on the 19th day of September 1886 was baptized on the 3rd day of October 1886 according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church by the Rev E J O'Gorman the sponsors being William ReLLY [sic- Reily?] and Mary Ellen Grinnan as appears from the baptismal register of this Church;
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[Below are marriage witnesses and baptism sponsors/godparents listed in letter from Church of St Mary.
[marriage witnesses] John Mooney and Ann Mc Cormick 12 Oct 1862
[of Thomas] Patrick Kilfoyle [sic] and Margaret Kilfoyle 6 Dec 1863
[of Edward] James Grimes and Mary Sheery [Sharey? as below?], 20 May 1866
[of Margaret] John Sharey [Sheery as above? Shaney? as below ?] and Mary Phillips, 12 Feb 1868
[of William] John Mooney and Ann Gibbons, 5 June 1870
[of John b 1872] PATRICK FARRELL and Anna Minar [MinOr?]- 23 June 1872 [Comment: This Patrick Farrell is obviously NOT the brother of the John born 1872. John's brother, Patrick, was born in 1877 or 1878. ASSUME this Patrick is the brother of William born calculated 1841.
[of Marian] Franciscus Higgins and Mary Boyd- 4 January 1874]
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