Nice, I don't have your Grandfather in my list of children. Since I have not had much luck in my research on this line it is not uncommon to have missed persons. I and my mother have tried to write her cousin Edith "Katy", but have not received an answer yet. We are hoping she is still alive, since we have not received the letters back. Do you have a copy of an article on William Etchells death around 1996 in Derby? Heard he was either heading to or coming from a soccer game.