hey jan it's me tracie. you know i lived with grandma all my life until i was 18. i can tell you about her mom and dad, and uncle wimps dad and his family and so forth. your grandpa was wc (william crandle). his mom and dad were francis. they came from alabama just like grandma she was a riley, and her mom was a moody. she only has one sister still alive. aunt violet. she's in mobile. your mom should remember her. there's alot more i can tell you ,but pressed for time this morning. write me back and i'll try to fill you in ...tracie (ada edekers) grand daughter..