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Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

DrErik  (View posts) Posted: 10 Jun 2004 4:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Ballywattick townland, earlier called Bally Wattiche, is now
Ballywattick Upper and Ballywattick Lower, both a bit to the
west of Ballymoney, Parish of Ballymoney, County of Antrim.
I would surmise the earliest Dinsmore/Dinsmoor families were
there in the late 1600s, and the CORRY family who married into the Dinsmores were likely the owners. Morrison was not
able to tie many of these families together...perhaps we ought
to toss in our lines and see if we can begin to compile some semblance of family...I think it can be done and it is time!
Erik P Conard -- Arvada, CO

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

LindaDunsmorePorter  (View posts) Posted: 4 Sep 2004 6:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dunsmore, Dinsmore
Eric

Interested in your Canadian ancestors James Dunsmore and Jane Corry. My Dunsmore ancestors arrived in Canada approx 1825-26: Ephriam Dunsmore and Isabella Little. A James Dunsmore and Ellen C. may have come around same time. Ephriam and Isabella had at least five sons. Like your Dunsmores, mine from Ballywattick/Ballymoney area. Mine first settled near Huntingdon, Quebec, later migrated to Perth County Ontario. Could we compare notes.

Linda

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

DrErik  (View posts) Posted: 4 Sep 2004 3:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
perhaps we are the same family but I have never seen the
spelling Dunsmore connected with Dinsmore....unless there
had been a change. Certainly never saw it in reference to the
Ballywattick environs. Could you clarify? I know it was James DINSMORE who wed Jane Corry. Erik P Conard

Re: John Dinsmore

Louise Campbell  (View posts) Posted: 17 Jun 2005 5:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Erik
I was wondering how much info you have on John Dinsmore born in Donegal.
My gr gr gr grandfather was John married to Mary Ann Kilpatrick. Does this mean anything to you. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Louise Campbell

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

Ralph Densmore  (View posts) Posted: 5 Aug 2005 5:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Who were the parents, grandparents and great grandparents of James Dunsmore

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

Linde Lunney  (View posts) Posted: 9 Nov 2005 9:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am just beginning work on a small research project on early 18th C. connections between the Bann valley area of counties Antrim and Londonderry, in Northern Ireland, and an area in New England more or less centred on Londonderry, New Hampshire. From my examination of the various genealogy websites, it looks as if the Dinsmores would be a very interesting sample family to follow up. Is anyone working on them from this point of view? I am originally from the north Antrim area, (not (closely ) related to Dinsmores) so I know the background fairly well, and thus I could provide some info. on the Irish angle, if anyone who knows about their American links is interested in contacting me.

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

EConard1  (View posts) Posted: 9 Nov 2005 5:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
My gg gf, Thomas Kennedy (1830-1919) left in 1851
later sending for his sister, Margaret. Both died in the
state of KS. They kept in touch with brother James of
Ballydivity, buried in Derrykeighan. They all were from
John & Margaret (Dinsmore) Kennedy of Liscolman.
Other kin in the Billy Parish area, today mostly in the
vicinity of Bushmills and Kells.
Margaret, I am told, was a daughter of James Dinsmore and Jane Corry of Ballywattick. I think James is descended from Robert "the letter writer" of
the Dervock neighborhood, but have no proof.
I have correspondence with Grace Maggart, now dec.,
but the northeast Dinsmoors are but a small part of the
family here in the "colonies." Talk to me. Was in Antrim in'92 but found little, locals seem to know little
and care less. Erik P Conard Denver

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

Ralph Densmore  (View posts) Posted: 11 Nov 2005 4:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Densmore, Dinsmore, Dunsmore
I agree with Mr. Conrad, the folks in Ireland for some reason do not respond to requests for assistance and "seem to care less." I have made several request to individuals of Ireland and I have yet to receive but one reply, and it was asking for more clarification. Once I gave the requested clarification I never heard from them again. I'm sure they have their reasons fo not responsing to requests, but it is certainly frustrating.

I ahve been requesting assistance for 12 years for a connection to the parents and siblings of Adam Dinsmore, b. Abt. 1738 in the Parish of Templemore, County Donegal, Ireland. He married Abt. 1758 in the Parish of Templemore, County Donegal, Ireland Elizabeth Jackson.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Ralph Densmore
Nashville, GA USA

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster

Ralph Densmore  (View posts) Posted: 11 Nov 2005 4:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Densmore, Dinsmore, Dunsmore
If you desire you may contact me directly at chiefd67@alltel.net

Re: Ballywattick-Antrim-Ulster; attitudes to genealogical queries

Linde Lunney  (View posts) Posted: 14 Nov 2005 9:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
Until very recently, genealogy has been very unfamiliar as a hobby in NI. People in country areas were often or indeed almost always very aware of who their kin were, probably in a rather undefined way, but anyone who actively sought information about past generations would have been regarded as unusual. It is well known that Irish records are very scanty, but I think also there was a more psychological reason why Ulster people didn't think too much about their family history. So many family members in succeeding generations left for different destinations that those who remained in Ireland lost touch with such large numbers of their kin that I think a kind of protective amnesia developed. They knew they would never ever see them again, so they almost deliberately stopped thinking about them, as a way of protecting themselves from the trauma of loss of loved ones. It seems to me that this is still somewhat in evidence, when you get a negative response from an individual in NI, though I do think it is changing. Genealogy as a hobby is becoming more evident in NI life, and increasingly an understanding of the genealogical way of looking at history is becoming more widespread.

I stress that this is my own theory to explain the phenomenon which you mention; I have never seen it discussed or documented, but I think it explains a lot about some aspects of what historians call the "mentalité" of Ulster. It may even partly explain the doubts about identity and security which are said by sociologists to underlie the group mentality in the north. This is one reason I am interested in the 1718 project, which aims to re-establish links between kinsfolk who lost each other at the very beginning of the sad story of Ulster's missing cousins and siblings.
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