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Re: HELP-Did Elizabeth de Burgh-b. 1332 Ireland-marry Elyas de Richmond or the Duke of Clarence-or both?

pizzathecat — 2015-07-24 01:06:32Z

Hi, I am having the same problem. You can't trust Wikipedia. I have seen many different websites with two different conclusions. If you are related to Elyas de Richmond and they did marry it means that you are related to King John and all the Kings of United Kingdom. The best thing is you are then related to Queen Elizabeth 2nd, very distantly. So I really do hope they did marry because that would mean I am related to Royalty and I am a direct descendant of King John.

Many people say that Elizabeth de Burgh, 4th Countess of Ulster married Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence, Which I believe could be true but I am yet to see a marriage record for the two. But I want to know weather she married (or also married) Elyas de Richmond. I am pretty sure that Elyas de(apx 1304- 1341) Richmond is a son of Eylas de Richmond. Elyas had son Sir Henry Thomas Webb.

I have had mixed searches on if Elizabeth de Burgh, 4th Countess of Ulster married Elyas de Richmond. The public is split, There are like 20 family trees saying they married and 20 saying the didn't. 5 websites saying they married, 5 saying they didn't. My ancestor is Elyas de Richmond and I would love to know weather he married Elizabeth de Burgh, Because if he did it means I am a descendant of King John. I have been searching for ages and I can't decide weather they married or not. I would love to hear what you think.

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

mlsakm1954 — 2014-03-07 16:12:55Z

Dorian,

Again, thanks, I will look at Cokayne. Half the battle sometimes is just knowing where to look,
Best wishes to you too
Marie

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

DorianGreenbaum — 2014-03-07 13:18:55Z

Dear Marie,
So happy I could be of help. I haven't looked at this family in a long, long time, but I do remember doing all the research to sort out the de Burghs. I believe that Cokayne is now available on ancestry.com, so you can look for yourself. (It's always good to confirm someone else's research yourself!)
Very best wishes,
Dorian

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

mlsakm1954 — 2014-03-07 08:01:40Z

Dorian

First off, thank you. Your post was very helpful. All my research, meager as it was, was corroborated by your research.

When I started my research I stumbled across Irish Pedigrees Vol II and was very excited. But I soon realized there are huge discrepancies between Hubert de Burgo (de Burgh) and Baldwin II. Starting with Baldwin II who never had a son named Jean de Contville (or John) and ending with William and Hubert de Burgh's (1st Earl of Kent) parents who were definitely not John de Burgo and Margaret daughter of Malcom IV, King of Scotland. Everything even remote verifiable pointed to Walter de Burgh as their parents and I could find nothing beyond that.

Now if I could sort out the lower branches of my Burke tree, I would die happy. Pretty sure they come out of Clanricarde Burke of County Galway. My great grandmother Hanora (Hannah, Anna) Burke's marriage certificate states that her father is Patrick Burke and mother Kate Spellman (probably married mid 1850's). Family names (given to Hanora's children) are Ellen, Brigid, Catherine, John and Patrick). Honora and her sister Ellen both emigrated to Australia and died there. So if anyone out there comes across info along these lines, please let me know.

again Dorian, thanks
Marie Schafer

Adam de Burgh

comawa — 2014-01-12 23:27:10Z

Does anyone know the ancestry of Adam de Burgh. I have run across the Brough Family Organization site which appears to have pretty good sources for his ancestry. Do you agree?

Most ancestry trees I have found that have an ancestry for Adam have him descended from the de Burghs of Ulster, which seems somewhat questionable.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

LUCIENNE — 2013-02-05 16:56:23Z

Your great-grandfather Thomas 1873 and my great-grandmother Mary Florence 1871 were siblings. That should make us both the same generation from Charles. Hello cousin a few removed.
Lucienne

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

1_jim_burke — 2013-02-05 16:50:18Z

Thanks for all that. Eva and James were grandchildren of Charles Burke who died in 1881. He had a son called Thomas who was born in 1873 and would be my great grandfather. Thomas is the father of Eva and James as well as others. If you go on to find a grave on the internet you will get some information on the Burkes that i put up.

Regards,

Jim Burke

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

LUCIENNE — 2013-02-05 16:21:31Z

I recently purchased a house and much of my genealogy stuff is still boxed up.

What I do have is from Fingal Heritage Group, Co Dublin, Research ID 222314, Roman Catholic, Register B3, Page 106, Entry 2617, Sponsors, William J.Hendrick and Mary Kavenagh for the baptism for Charles Burke Jr. 26 Nov 1831 Booterstown. While I do have the name of his parents, Charles and Margaret Connor Burke that is all I have.

Know daughters to me (there were suppose to be 18 births) Margaret Burke 19 May 1859, Catharine 14 Jun 1868, Eliza 21 Jul 1875, all born Dundrum. Bea & Bridget no dates, Thomas Patrick Sr only date I have is death 14 Jul 1853 and Kathleen (no maiden name) dies 20 Nov 1858. There was a daughter Eva about 1904, son James about 1920 and son Thomas Patrick Jr. no dates. Pretty sure I got this from Florrie Griffin. I do have most everything on Mary Florence Burke McEvoy Monteith 25 May 1871 Ballinteer, Dundrum, 3 May 1966 Detroit Osteopathic Hospital, Highland Park, Wayne Co. MI.
I cause a ruckus with one of my great aunts asking questions so I sort of stopped for awhile. There is some stuff in great-aunt Florrie McEvoy Lynch (she is not a Monteith) book that stretch the truth a little.
Lucienne

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

1_jim_burke — 2013-02-05 13:53:18Z

Do you happen to know anything about charles Burke and his wife Margaret (Connor) Burke. I'm trying to find out where they are buried. If I could find headstones for them I could get dates and ages and then I'd be back another generation.

Thanks,

Jim Burke

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

LUCIENNE — 2013-02-05 13:12:30Z

Oh my, I wondered why I had not hear from her for a while. I moved and I just thought she didn't have my new address. About 10 years ago they came to Michigan and stayed with me for a week. It was so wonderful because when my mother Rhona and Florrie saw each other, we didn't hear another word of English. They both spoke Gaelic and it was so grand to here my mother remember her birth language.
Received the inquest. Can't wait to digest it and see if anything new comes out. I did get some church records from a paid source in Ireland for the Burke family but I haven't worked on my Ireland families for a long time. Everything on Ancestry and in the States if for people who came here. I need records from Ireland and those are hard to come by.
So glad to find you again.
Lucienne

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

1_jim_burke — 2013-02-05 09:43:51Z

Hello again. Yes I wonder if they are true. I've heard them too. Florence Griffin died last year. Charles and Flora are buried in St Nahi's graveyard in Dundrum in Dublin.

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

LUCIENNE — 2013-02-04 18:53:45Z

I recently started looking for my Burke's again. Found my old post and your reply. I am the great granddaughter of Mary (Florence)Burke, McEvoy Monteith. A cousin Florence Griffin told me there was a inquest report and she would see if she could find a copy for me. Didn't happen.

I have a different email address from anything before than 2011. NEW lrehpitcher@hotmail.com. I got hijacked from someone in Spain and I finally gave up an got a new address.

I can't help but wonder if some of the old stories I have always heard are factual. Florence was named after Lady Florence McGlynn who lost her title because she married outside her faith. Guess Charles Burke is from Sir John DeBurgo, 2nd son of Baron of Cennel Castle, Co Limerick who was hanged 20 Oct 1607. Can't help but wonder if there is any truth to that.
Lucienne Reh Pitcher
Monroe, Michigan

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

JAMYSON — 2012-11-21 01:21:17Z

Hi Lee-Ann.
Your post caught my attention when I read the ship's name 'Cheybassa'. The Margaret you mention is 'Margaret Chisholm'. Possible daughter of Caroline Chisholm (nee Jones). More later.

It is also possible that Michael & Margaret had a child at sea on board the Cheybassa. His name was James Henry Bourke, and is my Great-Grandfather, who died in 1938. Records state he was born 'at sea/Ravenswood Qld'.

I'd be interested to know if this matches the records you have. Please keep me posted.

Here's my email addy: jcurthill@yahoo.com.au

Cheers, Jimmy :))

Re: Sir John DeBurgo, County Limerick

1_jim_burke — 2012-08-03 14:06:04Z

Charles burke 1831-1881 was my great great granfather. His body wss taken out of the river liffey in November 1881. I have a copy of the inquest which maybe I could send to you. It's a bit incomplete. I heard it said that his family suspected foul play. He had brothers called Peter and John. He may have had other members in his family. His daughter Mary Florence, married Captain Robert Monteith who was involved in the fight for Irish independence. I have heard the stories you heard and am not sure what is true. I know where he is buried and will send you a picture of his grave if you like. I would like to find out where his parents Charles and Margaret are buried. If you know anything I'd love to know. Hope this helps, Jim Burke. PS you will find info about him on findagrave.oom with a picture of his grave.

de burgh of staffordshire: new resource.

cj1862 — 2012-07-11 17:09:43Z

I believe the Ancestry record that attempts to connect the de Burghs of Ulster as ancestral to the de Burghs of Staffordshire is wrong. Here is an internet site with a document citing court records and early documents and working out the lineage of the de Borgos (once Limesey, from Robert Bishop of Chester, and his sister, m. one Wm. Noel). The lines merge, and get confusing with quite a few Bertrams, but the dates and marriages are buried in documents of the time, which are amply cited here: http://www.broughfamily.org/history/Early_Broughs_of_Staffor...

I have worked the information out in my tree: the de Burghs of Warwickshire and Staffordshire are connected; there are more de Burgo wives than appear in Ancestry records, Philip fitz Bishop, Fitz Noel, Ralph and Robert de Limesey, and Wm Conqueror's sister all figure in this account including actual historic record, and careful reading of the records will turn up the actual names (Alice and Joan) of two de Burgo daughter otherwise recorded as FNU, one married to a Harcourt. There is considerable detail of children not elsewhere recorded in Ancestry. Bertram III de Burgo is listed in Ancestry, but with suspect dates.

Re: De Burgh of Oldtown

hellsgrannie1 — 2012-05-15 16:46:07Z

I started reading your history and found it amazing. Presumably this is the product of hours of wading through historical documents.
I was looking for a possible ancestor with surname Berry-Cummins, said to have been de Burgh.
The story goes that this chap got into serious debt and was
rescued by the then owner of Harveys Bristol sherries so long as he took the surname Harvey. As I can't find any proof of this I shall have to give up on this story unless anything
in your investigations show anything. Regards, M.A.C. Mor-O'Brien

de Burghs in Crimean War

ashleyrm01 — 2011-11-20 21:01:03Z

According to a written article I have on an anecestor(John William Malloy), his mother Letitia Emma de Burgh had a father and two brothers that fought for the French in the Crimean War. The publication says that her father, Colonel de Burgh, was killed in the battle of Sebastopol. Her brothers, Captain and Lieutanent de Burgh, were killed at Ballaclava.

I have not been able to verify any of this information. Would be interested in any information regarding these family members.

Re: Raphoe Townlands of Muntertinney, Winnyhaw and Creggan

arthurjones181 — 2009-02-07 00:39:59Z

Adrian

I'm hoping I replied to you ages ago. If not, my apologies. I don't know of a connection to the Budge family, and I hadn't heard that Mary Allen was with the Campbells at Creggan. She was a daughter of Andrew Allen, farmer, apparently.

Thank you for the Creggan photograph.

Arthur

Re: Raphoe Townlands of Muntertinney, Winnyhaw and Creggan

arthurjones181 — 2009-02-07 00:36:21Z

Rosemary

Mary Allen (sometimes called Isabella Mary Allen, or Allan): her parents were, it seems, Andrew Allen, farmer, and Mary Carmichael. She died March 8th, 1919, at Rutherglen, by Glasgow.

I think we corresponded before?

Arthur

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

wwwwhippsy1987 — 2010-06-10 03:39:03Z

my name is andrew whipps ! my grand mother is a bourke , just wondering how many generations have there been since william deburgo.

Joseph William De Burgh/Delamore & Anastasia Doolan

annhart50 — 2010-09-06 23:08:58Z

I am trying to obtain information about my great grandparents Joseph & Anastasia De Burgh.

Uncertain as to my great grandfather's true name: Joseph William De Burgh/Joseph Peter De Burgh or may have also used the name Edward Peter Joseph Delamore. He was born in York on 11 October 1865? Anastasia Doolan was born in Guernsey in 1865.

They were married at St Josephs Church Guernsey Channel Islands on 12 December 1885. Between 1886 and 1895 they had 5 children; Adrienne 1886, William Joseph 1887, Christopher 1888, John Francis 1889, Harold Percy 1893 and Anastasia 1895. My great grandmother died shortly after childbirth in March 1895. My great grandmother remarried in 1896 to Jane Milanta in Gibraltar. They had a son Arthur Joseph in 1897. My great grandfather died in October 1897.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Re: ancestors of William fitz Adelm de Burgh

generalburke23 — 2008-05-11 20:18:09Z

Can you please tell me more information this is Mike Burke by the way. I would also like to know when John Burke died and more about his wife whos last name was McCannon we don't know her first name. I would also like to help you too, here's my email adress I hope it works cadets/burkem@cbchs.org - this is my school email adress

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

djburke187 — 2009-07-02 00:05:00Z

With respect to "William FitzAdelm deBurgo/deBurgh",
was anyone aware that his brother Hubert was Chief Judicator (sp) of England during the later years of King John and the minority of Henry III ?

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

tinatpt — 2011-08-14 10:57:22Z

Hi My maiden name was Bourke, so am I right in believing that all the Bourkes that resided in Ireland are somehow related to one another. My 4 g/grandfather Thomas was sent to Australia in 1834 on the Ship "Forth". He apparently rented land from a Lord Kilman.

Shaz

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

colmenz2002 — 2011-01-05 10:26:51Z

Thanks for all that information.
My maiden name was Bourke and I come from Australia.
Regards,

Re: grandchild of Ulysses Burgh and Mary Kingsmill

PeterChomley — 2010-08-15 00:50:56Z

Many thanks. I'll check my records and adjust the tree.
The Greene connection is interesting as I also have Greene's in my tree: Rev Robert Greene b 10 Sept 1718 married Susannah Renouard in 1748. His Son Lt. William Greene R.N. born about 1755 added Pomeroy to his name and married Mary Yorke in Dublin 31 Aug 1786. I know some of the Greene family was from the Tipperary area.
I have Anne Minchin, daughter of Thomas Mincin of Tipperary, who married Rev Thomas Parnell about 1706 and died Aug 1711.
Any connections?
I also have a Charles Beere born about 1845 in Dublin, married to Henriette Emmeline Chomley in Jun 1897.

Re: grandchild of Ulysses Burgh and Mary Kingsmill

PeterChomley — 2010-08-13 07:38:23Z

HELP-Did Elizabeth de Burgh-b. 1332 Ireland-marry Elyas de Richmond or the Duke of Clarence-or both?

troypix1 — 2008-08-09 22:47:11Z

My ancestor Elyas de Richmond b. 1327, Wiltshire, England is given by many sources as m. to Elizabeth de Burgh, b. 1332 Castle Carrickfergus, Antrim, Ireland. Her father was William Donn de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster-she was his sole heir. However, other sources give her husband as Lionel, Duke of Clarence, giving her as the Duchess of Clarence & their dtr as Philipppa Plantagenet.
Our family descends from Elyas' son Thomas de Richmond-this line descends the Paul family of Mass. Was Elizabeth Thomas' mother?
Does anyone know anything about Elizabeth? Was she married twice? For more information on these lines-go to my website:
pixleyblair.tribalpages.com
Thanks

Re: HELP-Did Elizabeth de Burgh-b. 1332 Ireland-marry Elyas de Richmond or the Duke of Clarence-or both?

troypix1 — 2010-05-26 01:20:14Z

Thanks-I'll had this info into my Legacy program...'has been confusing...and Wikipedia can't always be trusted- have seen some big mistakes, but that goes for all sources, as we genealogists find out along the way.
Did you check my website? If not-go to:
pixleyblair.tribalpages.com
Thanks again
(You can contact me directly from my website from the 'contact me' link or thru the Guestbook.)

Re: HELP-Did Elizabeth de Burgh-b. 1332 Ireland-marry Elyas de Richmond or the Duke of Clarence-or both?

sbolling192 — 2010-05-25 04:07:33Z

I came across this problem yesterday myself here on Ancestry. No, this Elizabeth De Burgh was only married once - to Lionel of Antwerp, 2nd son of Edward III of England. I found this information on Wikipedia. She did not marry Elyas de Richmond. And, the Elizabeth Burgh that is shown married to Elyas de Richmond married this Elyas' brother, Richard de Richmond. Elizabeth Burgh was the daughter of Lord Burgh (I haven't had time to research this family further yet) and Richard received Burgh Manor near Catterick and Richmond in Yorkshire in 1350 (according to Thackeray genealogy).

Re: Raphoe Townlands of Muntertinney, Winnyhaw and Creggan

mustardgeni — 2012-04-28 22:18:27Z

I am researching the Holmes of Creggan and surrounding Townlands. I have a series of PRONI documents for land rentals in 1800's mentioning these townlands. Happy to share research.

Paul

email mustardgeni@gmail.com

Re: ancestors of William fitz Adelm de Burgh

hbarbet1 — 2008-01-02 17:18:52Z

Hello Michael,

Can I put in my pennyworth here? Your ancestor John Burke (b. 1779) was the son of Richard Burke of Rathcormack Co. Cork (b. 1753) and Elizabeth Mansergh (or possibly Mercer - there is some confusion about this). I have been doing some research for my wife, who is descended from Thomas Burke, b. c. 1780 - according to family tradition he was a collateral relation of Edmund Burke (probably through his cousin Richard m. Catherine Sheehy). Your ancestor John had a brother Thomas b. 1782. My hope is that this Thomas and my wife's ancestor were one and the same but I have no documentary evidence to support this. (My guess is that the Burke's of Rathcormack and the Burkes of Kildorrery were closely related and were all descendents of first or second cousins of Edmund Burke.)

Re: The Kildare Gentry - de Burgh

alexcara1 — 2010-07-29 22:54:47Z

hi there, mim from moville and would love to know the details of the book you mentioned if you still have them

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

chrisdela1 — 2010-08-20 12:52:24Z

Dear Jenny,

Thank you very much for your reply.

Kind regards

Chris

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

chrisdela1 — 2010-08-17 12:16:37Z

hi Jenny,

My family are researching our origins - what a mammoth job! My sister Ann is becoming more proficient and we have traced that our great grandfather and his siblings were born de Burghs. Some were born in Ireland and some in Guernsey. (1890's). Christopher, Harold Percy, William Joseph, John Francis and Adrienne De Burgh!

we too migrated to Australia in 1966 - but we are Delamore's. we now have the task of working out when and why the name became Delammore.

Cheers
Christine Delamore

Re: ancestors of William fitz Adelm de Burgh

musicbandit1321 — 2007-03-25 20:28:59Z

Yeah I would be intrested in any corrections, and secondly I found this lineage from doing alot of research and stuff, but I just kind of got rid of the lineage from seleucus, to Arnulf of Metz. I was wondering because I found in some research that thier was a second Robert, Count of Mortain, I was wondering what if he was the father of a Walter de Burgh who was the father of William de Burgh, Lord of Connaught. I think that Lineage is alittle better. I also found a lineage from Charles the Younger, King of the Franks to Herluin. Charles had a son named Robert the Strong, Duke of France, who had Robert "the Bold" King of France, who had Hugh "the Great" Duke of France, who had Hugh Capet, King of France who had Robert "the Pious" King of France who with his second wife had Herluin. But Herluin was born one year after the marriage was enulled.

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

LeeAnneBourke13 — 2008-06-09 07:22:48Z

i am wondering if u have any info about a Michael Bourke and Margt. ?? who came to Australia onboard the Cheybassa arriving in Cooktown 19.10.1882. They travelled with their children Peter aged 28, Thomas aged 19, Martin aged 17, Toseph aged 12, and twins Patrick and John aged 3. They lived in Charters Towers in Nth Qld but i have not been able to find anything on Michael or his family. My email address is leecommodore@hotmail.com and i would really appreciate any info you may be able to help or a direction i could take.

Re: Raphoe Townlands of Muntertinney, Winnyhaw and Creggan

rosemarymorrison48 — 2011-07-30 18:39:04Z

arthur - i have just seen this - two years after you sent it!

We did indeed correspond before - i changed my computer and lost everything - and my enthusiasm. Have not quite got back in the swing of things, as am having to re-request all info.

But have got a bit more info on Glasgow lairds which can share with you if you give me yr e-mail address.

Rosemary

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

TerrySumpter436 — 2011-05-20 14:52:36Z

Hi Pat ? - I can see it is a while since you started your project, and from the threads it is obviously working, I have managed to 'plagerize' a lot of the very early information relative to the Burkes (my wife's direct line)I have established a connection of sorts between the burkes of early 1800's (below) who lived on the site of Cushlough Bay, Lough Mask and in fact still own the property there (I have old family photo's of both the property and inhabitants from around 1825 if you or anyone else have an interest in them), however whilst I have established that there is a connection I do not know what that connection actually is, I am solid to 1812 but then it is only 'unreliable anecdotes'. Below is what I know to be accurate, I was hoping that you may be able to give me something that will enable me to work back to the original inhabitants of Cushlough Bay, Lough Mask in the 13th century.

Patrick Burke was born 1812
Patrick Burke died 3rd December 1898 Aged 86 Years in Castlebar Co. Mayo
Bridget Burke was born in 1841 Ballenrobe, County Mayo, Ireland
Bridget Burke died Dec. 3, 1914 aged 73
Bridget lived on Innishdurra, Ballenrobe. Mayo
Patrick Burke and Bridget Burke had 3 children
1. Anthony born 1885 - Died April 10th 1928
2. Patrick born 1867 - Died Jan. 14, 1947
3. Richard Died Feb 14th 1983
a. Married Winifred Burke Died 3rd June 1991

I do have subsequent generational details with photographs etc (probably for each generation) should they be of interest.
I know it's a big ask and I appreciate the time but I am really keen to try to get past this generational 'black hole'
Thanks - Terry

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

michaeldd_1 — 2010-07-22 02:39:19Z

Hello, My name is Michael DeBurgh, but everyone calls me Mike.

I'm an American currently living in Ohio. My father was Walter Hugh DeBurgh, born in Portland, Oregan, USA. His father was Raymond Albert DeBurgh born in May 1895 in Portland, Oregon, USA. His father was Charles Raymond DeBurgh born in Dec 1841 in Ireland (where in Ireland I don't know).

My family has always been very small. Grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles... were never known to me. Now and then I'd hear a name, but there was never any discussion of any relative in my family, therefore I begin to search for links. I know some of my grandfather's siblings, and a bit more, but not much. I'll be happy to share the little I have.

I see reading the posts that DeBurghs have made it to Australia. Many may not know that DeBurghs also settled in the Phillipines. My great uncle Joseph DeBurgh sailed to the Phillipines in the early 1900s and stayed there, married, and raised a family. I've not yet found any Filipinos with the DeBurgh surname, but I'm sure they must exist.

I'm happy to hear from anyone regarding our family at michael.d.d@mddesigns.org.

Take care.

Re: grandchild of Ulysses Burgh and Mary Kingsmill

rosanthony — 2010-08-14 13:26:24Z

I found the information from more than one FT source, bearing out the family information which we had from before the Internet. Our family information is not in the public domain, Burke's Peerage or Turtle Bunbury's history.

Mary Burgh,d. 1722, dau. of Elizabeth Griffin and Rev Richard Burgh, eldest s. of Rev. Ulysses and Mary Kingsmill Burgh, married Rev. Thomas Lloyd of Towerhill and Fantstown Castle ,and had 3 sons, Richard, Edward and William. Sadly she died young, and Thomas re-married to Frances Bateman in 1729. This information came from the Lloyd and the Minchin-Greene FTs.
My ancestor Thomas Lloyd and Mary's second son was Rev. Edward Lloyd of Newtown Pery and Limerick; b. 1721, d. abt 1795. He married Abigail Minchin in 1750, the dau. of Charles Minchin and Catherine Greene of Co. Tipperary.
Edward Lloyd,JP, of Ballincollig Castle had a son, Minchin, and a daughter Mary, who married Capt. Thomas Clark. In turn, their daughter Jane abt 1780-1849 married General Alexander Armstrong,R.A., whose history is well-documented.
Although I have not got proof or photographs to support it, the information I have came from my late mother's papers who had it all from her older cousin, Thekla Beere, a reputable educated source.

I hope this has helped.

grandchild of Ulysses Burgh and Mary Kingsmill

rosanthony — 2009-07-15 14:05:44Z

I am a descendant of General Alexander Armstrong, R.I.A. who married Jane Clark dau. of Mary Lloyd and Capt. Clark. Mary Lloyd was the dau. of Edward Lloyd of Ballincollig Castle Co Cork. He was a son of Rev. Thomas Lloyd and Mary Burgh. She was a daughter of Richard Burgh and Elizabeth Griffin, and thus a grand-daughter of Bishop Ulysses Burgh. This family line doesn't appear to be in your interesting summary.
The original information came to me via my late mother's cousin, Thekla Beere, a distinguished academic and TCD graduate.

Re: De Burgh of Oldtown

hellsgrannie1 — 2012-05-15 16:46:04Z

Re: De Burgh of Oldtown

MelindaVeirs58 — 2008-07-27 23:57:39Z

Wonderful, wondeful ashame no one else has read this!
mlvei@aol.com

Re: De Burgh of Oldtown

MelindaVeirs58 — 2008-07-27 23:52:33Z

I just saw this query looking for my VERE, VEAR family.
I didn't even care about looking for them after reading your history lesson. I have only 3 days left on my ancestry.com global subscription and I don't have time now but I don't want to lose you. I want to read more. Please keep me in mind if I lose this ave. of contact.

Sincerely.

Melinda Wheeler Veirs
Stamping Ground, Kentucky USA
mlvei@aol.com

Re: deBurgh/Burke/Bourke family

@@davcom@tpg.com.au — 2010-08-19 12:25:45Z

Hi Christine

Thank you for your email but unfortunetly i am unable to help you.

I have none of the names you have listed under Deburgh or Delamore.

King Regards

Jenny

Re: De Burgh of Oldtown

timhawley69 — 2011-10-09 19:26:24Z

Also I was wondering what my clan tartan might be and what other clans that de burgo may be linked also

Re: De Burgh of Oldtown

timhawley69 — 2011-10-09 18:56:53Z

Hello my name is Timothy Hawley and my mother is also named patrice burke but my grandfathers name is Leo Paul Burke the third and I have been wondering about my family history so any updates would be greatly appreciated :) my email to contact me at is timhawley69@gmail.com

Re: The Kildare Gentry - de Burgh

WestAussie0509 — 2007-02-18 08:47:19Z

Dear Turtle
Have you come across the name de Burgh Sidley which I believe was my grandmother's original family name? Her father, Joseph William Sidley (born c 1825) is believed to have been the brother of Rev Henry de Burgh Sidley (born c 1822). Their father was Henry Sidley, schoolmaster of Co Cork. Some of my information has come from a privately published book titled "Andersons of Moville, Co Donegal and related families". The author's name and details can be supplied on request.
Regards
John James

Re: ancestors of William fitz Adelm de Burgh

J23133 — 2007-02-28 06:55:40Z

First, I'd be interested to know where you found this lineage? Secondly, are you interested in any corrections?

Jim