I was talking with my dad today, he says that
Grandfather Percy was in North Staffordshire Regiment,
but his number was 5039795,
He did have a sister named Ada.
Dad remembers his mother saying once that grandfathers parents had i fish -chip shop down furlong lane, Burslem

Also he never heared anything of , Brockmoor or
King Winsford.

Dad also said that grandfather was not a ware decorator,
he was a maker , making basins and bowls, they used to mention this a lot , grandmother used to work for
him.

Earl do you have a birthdate for Percy?

Regards Glyn

Hi Glyn.

Yes Percy was born on 25th November 1892 at Sparrow Street in Portshill (next to Burslem).

I have a copy of both Percy's birth and marriage certificates and also the birth certificate of his sister Ada.

The birth certificates of both Percy and Ada confirm their parents as Edward Wilmot CYPLES and Mary Jane DODD.

Edward Wilmot and Mary Jane DODD married in the Wolstanton District in the first three months of 1889.

The war time marriage certificate of Percy CYPLES and Annie CHURCHMAN from 1916, confirms that he was a Pottery Ware Decorator and that Annie worked in an ammunition works. It is this certificate where Percy gives his number in the 3rd North Staffords as 10200.

Perhaps the other number your father has is a later number from another regiment. The 3rd North Staffords was a Militia Regiment. Was Percy later called up for full service?

The marriage certificate also confirms that Percy was the son of Edward Wilmot CYPLES and Percy gives his address as 16 Station Road, Brockmoor, Kingswinford on the certificate.

Do you know who Percy's brothers and sisters married. It will save me the time in looking them up.

Regards Earl.

Dear Earl,
Thank you for the last information, the date of Gradfathers birth has settled my mind extremly, Has my father was telling me different information, mind you I cant expect him to remember everything these dayus now that he's 73.

I will ask him about Percy's brothers and sisters and see if he can remember who they married.
I will also ask dad if Percy later called up for full service due to other service number.

Earl how much would you charge for a scan of both Percy's birth and marriage certificates and also the birth certificate of his sister Ada.

Earl would you know the names of Annies sisters and brothers, as Dad had more to do with them? Kate was one sister .

Thank you
Glyn

Hi Glyn

The only information I have on Annie Churchman is that she was born about 1893, that her father was James Churchman and he worked as a Horse Driver.

Regards Earl.

Hello, i'm Laura Cyples from Staffordshire. I don't have much information, but am keen to research my family tree. My Father is Barry Cyples born 1952, son of Derek and Agnes Cyples

Hello Laura.

Great to hear from you.

I looked into the ancestry of Derek CYPLES in February 2000 when Edna Smith mentioned to me that you had been in contact with her.

I searched for your grandfather’s birth certificate from 1921 to 1930 but could find no reference to it at the General Record Office. Perhaps he was born a few years later?

If you are interested I will have another attempt at researching Derek. If you could answer the few questions below it will help me.

1) Do you know the maiden name of Agnes?

2) Do you know when and where Derek and Agnes married?

3) What part of Stoke on Trent did Derek live in.

One of the first things I will be doing is tracking down the marriage certificate of Derek and Agnes. Could you check to make sure no one in you immediate family has this before I try and get a copy from the General record Office.

Regards Earl

Dear Earl,

Thankyou for your response.
In answer to your first question the maiden name of my Grandma (Agnes) is Potts.
I'm not sure where they were married but I will find out!(I will also enquire about the marriage certificate)
My Grandad lived in East Vale(s-o-t), then in Sandford Hill(s-o-t), and was born in 1928.

If it's any help Derek's Father's name was Richard Cyples.

Thanks
Laura

I have some information about the Cyples family.
Concerning this passage:

5. William Cyples. Born on 7 March 1892 in Parton, Whitehaven, Cumbria, England. William died in Gault, Ontario, Canada on 22 October 1977, he was 85.

immigrated about 1912

William married Maud Louise Jevons.

They had the following children:
6 i. J Edward
7 ii. Lawrence
8 iii. William Harold (~1919-1944)
** They also had a daughter named Lily, she is my grandmother. She lives in Cambridge, Ontario. Maud (my great-grandmother) passed away in 1988 (I believe) I will check on that and post again.
My grandmother would be so happy to hear from any of her family, so please reply!
Thanks, Crystal

Hi Crystal.

I think it was Bill at:

wildbill@shaw.ca

who was realted to this Cyples line.

Regards Earl.