I know your post is dated 2003 but I just saw it. I have a Elizabeth Betsy Cypher 1815-1850(dau.of Matthias Cypher & Elizabeth Harriet Little of Butler Co., PA). and I'm showing she married Nicholas Mangel/Marshall. They had 2 children. A daughter Mary Elizabeth and a son Charles Mangel/Marshall. I'm not showing the father but Claude Glote Mangel 1813-1895 seems to fit the dates. I find that it shows Mary Elizabeth ended up having 8 kids but I don't have much info at all on either the Dad or son. If you can get on my tree and see if you find anything that helps, you're welcome to. Gary