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Searching for Choldo to Csoltko to Shelko (and various names) immigrated to Kellys Island Ohio

Searching for Choldo to Csoltko to Shelko (and various names) immigrated to Kellys Island Ohio

Posted: 31 Jan 2013 10:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
This thread is for information on Andrew Choldo (Csoltko) who immigrated from Hungary to Kellys Island Ohio, and lived mostly in the Cleveland Ohio area.

ANDREW CSOLTKO: Choldo (name used on only one census)
BORN: 1871 DIED: 1917
WIFE:Susan nee Basco
CHILDREN:
John J Csoltko 1893 – 1979
Steven (Gene) Csoltko (Chunks) 1894 – 1957
Emma M Csoltko 1896 – 1976
Andrew R Csoltko, Schalkey 1902 – 1969
Peter Csoltko, Shelko 1904 – 1973
Frank P Csoltko, Schalkey 1906 – 1982
William Csoltko, Shellko 1910 – 1990
*WHAT I HAVE TO SHARE*
*I have document (obituary notices) that confirm relationship and changes of last names.
*I have every census, but the 1910, for each head of house-hold. I cannot find any 1910 census for any of them.
*I have downloaded every single document available for each of these people.
*I have documents and information from other genealogy sites.
*WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR*
*Information on the parents of Andrew. I have searched using the name on the 1900 census. It produces no search results at all.
*Information on the parents of Susan.
*There are a great number of Susan Basco found. However, none of them are married to Andrew (Andras) Csoltko (Choldo). I have three marriage certificates from their children, stating that the parents are 'Andrew Csolkto and Susan (Susie) Basco. However, I cannot locate any information on this particular couple prior to the 1900 census.
*There is a Stephen Csoltko and Paul Csolkto that may or may not be related to this family. The dates of various documents would indicate they are Andrew's uncles. They are too young upon entering the United States to be Andrew's father. Plus, the didn't live in Kellys Island or Ohio; as Andrew did.
**Any information dating prior to 1900.
**Any information on how to locate the 'missing' 1910 census. (I know it's not really missing...I just can't find it.
Many Thanks!

Re: Searching for Choldo to Csoltko to Shelko (and various names) immigrated to Kellys Island Ohio

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 2:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Jan 2014 3:09PM GMT
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&...
Name: Andreas Csoltkó
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 13 Nov 1871
Event Place: Poproč, Moldava nad Bodvou, Slovakia
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Franciscus Csoltkó
Mother's Name: Maria Hilyovszky
Page Number: 10
Entry Number: 59
GS Film number: 1981415
Digital Folder Number: 004948327
Image Number: 00151
. . . . . .
HILOVSKY in 1995 in Slovakia
Priezvisko HIĽOVSKÝ sa na Slovensku v roku 1995 nachádzalo 107×, celkový počet lokalít: 20, v lokalitách:
POPROČ, okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 67×;
NIŽNÝ MEDZEV (obec MEDZEV), okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 7×;
SÍDLISKO KVP (obec KOŠICE), okr. KOŠICE – 6×;
MOLDAVA NAD BODVOU, okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 4×;
HOZELEC, okr. POPRAD – 3×;
MOKRANCE, okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 3×;
HRONEC, okr. BANSKÁ BYSTRICA (od r. 1996 BREZNO) – 2×;
PETROVCE, okr. VRANOV NAD TOPĽOU – 2×;
VYŠNÝ MEDZEV (obec MEDZEV), okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 2×;
HANUŠOVCE NAD TOPĽOU, okr. VRANOV NAD TOPĽOU – 1×;
HUMENNÉ, okr. HUMENNÉ – 1×;
JASOV, okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 1×;
KIŠOVCE (obec HÔRKA), okr. POPRAD – 1×;
PREŠOV, okr. PREŠOV – 1×;
RUDNÍK, okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 1×;
SENICA, okr. SENICA – 1×;
ŠACA (obec KOŠICE), okr. KOŠICE – 1×;
JUH (obec KOŠICE), okr. KOŠICE – 1×;
KRÁSNA (obec KOŠICE), okr. KOŠICE – 1×;
RUŽINOV (obec BRATISLAVA), okr. BRATISLAVA – 1×;

ar. NY EI
Helyarsky, Andras Taszonidzeni, Hungary 5 1908 1913
Helyarsky, Ferenc Taszonidzeni, Hungary 4 1909 1913
Helyarsky, Ilana Taszonidzeni, Hungary 2 1911 1913
Helyarsky, Maria Taszonidzeni, Hungary 29 1884 1913
Hiljousky, Andrao Jaszo 35 1864 1899
Hilyorszky, Andras Jaszoncindsz... 29 1876 1905
Hilyovszki, Janos Jaszomindoz, Hungary 15 1891 1906
Hilyovszki, Maria Jaszomindszent, Hungary 5 1902 1907
Hilyovszki, Tamosne Jaszomindszent, Hungary 25 1882 1907
Hilyovszki, Vincz... Jaszo 29 1870 1899
Hilyovszky, Erzsebet Jaszo 5 1899 1904
Hilyovszky, Jacob Jaszomindszent 32 1873 1905
Hilyovszky, Margit Jaszo 8 1896 1904
Hilyovszky, Vincene Jaszo 27 1877 1904
Csottko, Janos Jassomindnent, Hungary 25 1889 1914
Hiliovsky, Marie Poproc, Cz. Sl. 18 1903 1921
Hilovsky, Frantiska Poproc, Tchecosl 24 1898 1922
Hilovsky, Stefan Poproc, Tchecosl. 1 1921 1922
Hilyovsky, Vince Poproc, Cz.Slovakia 24 1897 1921

Re: Searching for Choldo to Csoltko to Shelko (and various names) immigrated to Kellys Island Ohio

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 6:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for your response! Wow! So much information! I have saved the post. Again, thank you!

Re: Searching for Choldo to Csoltko to Shelko (and various names) immigrated to Kellys Island Ohio

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 8:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome TheresaAnn
Trying !

Do you have the church baptismal record of each US born child? Were they baptized in an Hungarian church? I do want to think that the church would have asked for a place of birth of the parents!
John J Csoltko 1893 – 1979
Steven (Gene) Csoltko (Chunks) 1894 – 1957
Emma M Csoltko 1896 – 1976
Andrew R Csoltko, Schalkey 1902 – 1969
Peter Csoltko, Shelko 1904 – 1973
Frank P Csoltko, Schalkey 1906 – 1982
William Csoltko, Shellko 1910 – 1990

Re: CSOLTKO

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 12:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Jan 2014 2:58PM GMT
Csoltko, Borbala Kronoswokwajda, Hungary 64 1847 1911 [Going to Cleveland, OH; Buckeye Rd]
Krasznokvajda, Abauj-Torna megye, Hungary
http://www.maplandia.com/hungary/borsod-abauji-zemplen/krasz...

place names in Abauj megye:
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g105.shtml

Csoltko, Istvan Berczel 18 1889 1907
Csoltko, Istvan Berczel 18 1885 1903
Berczel , Nógrád megye, Hungary

Csoltka, Borbala Tiszaberczel, Hungary 67 1846 1913
Tiszaberczel, Szabolcs megye, Hungary

Csoltki, Maria Csecs, Hungary 18 1889 1907 [going to Cleveland, OH] {CSOLTKO on the manifest]
Csécs, Abauj-Torna megye, Hungary presently
Čečejovce, Slovakia
1773, 1863–1913, 1938–1945 Csécs, 1786 Cschécsch, 1808 Nagy-Csécs, Cžeč, 1920 Čečejovce, 1927–1938, 1945–1948 Čečejovce, Csécs, 1948– Čečejovce [all the names this location was known by]
http://www.maplandia.com/slovakia/kosice/kosice-okolie/cecej...

Re: Searching for Choldo to Csoltko to Shelko (and various names) immigrated to Kellys Island Ohio

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 5:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
This is actually my cousin's family. His father and my father are 1st cousins. He had no idea his Shellko last name was originally Csoltko. I am the first to ever research his family. In all the documents I have found I have not found a baptism or Christening records; neither from here nor from Hungary. Or any records that state what church they went to. Oh yes..I did get the message with the baptism record for Andras Csoltko. I haven't saved it yet or gone to FamilySearch to retrieve it. I've sent him every document I could find with all the links everyone has been kind enough to give me. I am leaving it up to him to research his family further. ;)
Thanks again for all your help!
Theresa (Iha) Hurlburt

Re: CSOLTKO

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 5:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello!
Wow! Thank you for all of this! One silly, dumb question, though...are these ship manifests? What are the numbers; such as the 64 1847 and 1911. Age, date of birth, and date of transport??

I have the first set of information for Csoltko, Borbala . I have two marriage records that indicate that her maiden name is Filo. Barbara Filo. But that's as far as I could get. It's amazing how much information you are finding! I will definitely share this with my cousin!
Sincerely,
Theresa (Iha) Hurlburt

Re: CSOLTKO

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 2:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome Theresa
I guess I presumed that you know but I see that I did not mentioned that those CSOLTKOs were the ones who arrived NY Ellis Island, so yes, arrivals.

The marriage record does not have a place of birth, at all?

http://www.radixforum.com/surnames/filo/
http://www.radixindex.com/en/surnames/surname/filo
Zlatica

Re: Searching for Choldo to Csoltko to Shelko (and various names) immigrated to Kellys Island Ohio

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 2:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Theresa
Nice gesture on your part. Hopefully your cousin will follow up on what is found about his CSOLTKO ancestor.
I sure would have thought that the first US born child's church baptismal record would have parents place of birth but as with everything else, always some kind of an exception.
Zlatica

Re: CSOLTKO

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 8:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
Nope. None of the marriage records or any other records (such as draft registrations) have a specific place of birth. Simply Hungary or Austria-Hungary.

Andrew Cholskto’s death certificate says place of birth: Abany Wedye, Hungary
John Csolto, Choltko marriage record simply says : Birthplace Austria-no city
Steve Csoltko WWII draft card says he was born in Austria Hungary – no city
Emma Coltko’s marriage certificate says born in Hungary-no city
Andrew, Peter P. , Frank, and William were all born in Ohio. None of their records state where their parents are from. Simply Hungary or Austria-Hungary.

Theresa (Iha) Hurlburt
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