Can anybody help me find out information about Thomas Croal born somewhere in Ireland between 1820 and 1822 who married an Anne Gilchrist also born somewhere in Ireland between 1830 and 1832. I believe they left Ireland during the Potato famine of 1850 and moved to Old Monkland(Coatbridge) area of Scotland. The were married in Dundyvan Coatbridge 9-Oct-1853. They had 9 children: Thomas b:2 Dec 1860, James b: 4 Jun 1859, Edward who was born in 1861 (cannot find his birth - He is my g grandfather), Catherine b: 1 May 1862, Anne b: 18 Nov 1864, Margaret b: 14 Oct 1866, another Margaret b: 12 Nov 1867, Patrick b: 22 Mar 1869 and Mary b: 3 Mar 1871. All the children were born in Old Monkland except Edward who may have been born in Ireland Thanks
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Re: Croal(l)'s from Ireland
I have many relatives in the Old Monkland Coatbridge area around that time including Hernan's who married Croall's. They came from Ireland, but I don't know where exactly. Do you have any info on Margaret Croall m. Andrew Hernan in Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland ca 1854 or Lawrence Hernan m. Winifred Croal ca 1827
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Hi, I am William Kerr and have Croal's in my family line. I came from Coatbridge,but never knew many of my relatives. I would like to contact any who may still live there. Do you know any of them. I lived at 100 Kirk St, Coatbridge when I lived in Scotland (1965 when I left). Below you will find what information I have on the Croal Line. I f you can help me it would be great. Regards, William Kerr
CROAL LINE. Searched: 1881 Census Old Monkland. Lanark. 652-2.
Ellen Croal Head. Wife. 53. Keeping House. Ireland. James “ “ Son. Un. 33. Puddler in Iron. Ireland. Patrick “ “ Son. Un. 23. Coal Miner. England. Marriage: 16 Nov.1888. St Rollex,Lanark. 644-6/p,153/309. Francis Croal.27yrs. Iron Puddler. Batchelor. 15 Rosemount St,Glasgow. Son of Patrick Croal.(iron puddler). (dec). and Helen Croal M/S Croal. And. Helen O’Neill. (her x mark) 27yrs. Cotton Powerloom Weaver. Spincer. 15 Rosemount St,Glasgow. Dau of John O’Neill Railway Surfaceman.(dec) and Mary O’Neill M/S Cafferty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Death: 22 March 1922. Caotbridge. 652-2/p.60/178. Francis Croal. Died aged 72yrs. Bronchitis. 53c Buchanan St,Coatbridge Coal Miner (Army Pensioner). Married to Ellen Croal. Son of Patrick Croal.(Iron Work labourer.) and Helen Croal M/S Croal. Infor: Ellen Croal. Present. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Death: 25 March 1933, Coatbridge.Lanark. 652/2/p.64/192. Helen Croal.Died.aged 72. Carcinomonia of bowel 3 months. Widow of Francis Croal.( Coal Miner.Hewer.) 53c Buchanan St,Coatbridge. Dau of Patrick O’Neill. Railway Platelayer. (dec). and Helen O’Neill. M/S Hilferty. (dec) Infr: Margaret Croal. Daughter. Present.
Death: 14 March 1875,Middle District Old Monkland.Lanark.652-2/p.45/133. Patrick Croal. Died aged 62yrs. Asthma years. Drepay 2 weeks. Night Watchman. Married to Helen Croal. Monky Pit Lodge.Dundyvan. Usual residence 23 Fells Land,Dundyvan. Son of Edward Croal, Small Farmer. (dec). and Catherine Croal M/S Cullen (dec). Infor:James Croal, Son. Death: 23 May 1890. Coatbridge.Lanark. 652-2/p.88/264. Helen Croal. Died aged 62yrs. Chronic Bronchitis. 2 months. Widower of Patrick Croal. Iron Rollers Assistant. 11 English Sq,Coatbridge. Son of James Croal. Blacksmith (dec) & Bridget Croal M/S Blake.(dec) Infor: J.Croal Son, present.
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Hi William,
It's so great to get a response after almost 2 years. I think we might have a connection. I will e-mail you with more info
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Sorry this is a year late, my ggm was Rose Ann Carr who gave birth to my grandfather (illigitimately) in 1879, named him James Carr but later became James Carr McLaren.
In 1887 ggm Carr married Peter Croal whose parents are shown on their marriage certificate as Patrick and Dora Croal nee Kerrigan.
Also on their marriage certificate Rose was shown as Kerr not Carr. Her parents are shown as James Kerr and Rose Kerr nee Sloan, which I have documents to show them previously as Carr (and also Corr).
Any thoughts or ties?
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Dear James, Can you tell me were they came from ,dates of birth,marrage,deaths. Places these things happened. The following is the only information I have on the croall side of my family. If you see an conection anywere then pease let me know and we can take it from there. Regards, Bill Croall Family Tree. ------------From my records. Mary Croall. ( Husband: William Kerr. Born: abt, 1894. died at 52yrs old. Died: 15th Jan 1947. Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland.) Married : 26 Aug 1918. Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Born: 4 May 1893. Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Died: 2 Nov 1930. Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Children: George: (my father).Francis: Catherine: William:
Francis Croall: Born abt, 1868. Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland. Father: Patrick Croall, Mother: Helen Croall Died: 22 Mar 1930. Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland. Married: 18 Nov 1889. To Helen O’Neil . Scotland. Father: Patrick O’Neil. 1.Helen O’Neil. (Wife): Born: 8 Mar 1893. Springburn,Lanarkshire,Scotland. Died:25 Mar 1933. Springburn,Lanarkshire,Scotland. Children: 2.Mary Croall:Born 4 May 1893,Died 2 Nov 1930. Springburn,Lanarkshire,Scotland. 3.Ellen Croall :born abt 1895.Died 4 Jan 1948. 4.Margaret Croall:born abt 1895.
Patrick Croall: Born abt 1813.Glasgow,Lanarkshire.Scotland. Married:----------? Helen Croall. Died: 14 Mar 1875. Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland. Father: Edward Croall. Mother Catherine Cullen. Helen Croall: Born abt, 1828 Died : 23 May 1890 at 62yrs old. Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland.
Children: James: Born abt 1848 (Spouse; Bridget Blake.) Patrick: Born abt, 1858. Francis: Born abt, 1868, Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland Married: Helen O’Neil.16 Nov 1889.Scotland. Died: 22 Mar 1930. Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland
Edward Croall:Born Ireland.? Married: Catherine Cullen. Ireland. Children: Patrick Croall. Born: abt 1813. Married to Helen Croall. Died: 14 Mar 1875. Coatbridge,Lanarkshire,Scotland Note: from information from a Mr Allen Croall I believe that they had 4 children and that Patrick was one off them. Also that Edward died in Ireland.? I was also looking through some old notes and came across the following details, which I got when I visited the “Old Monkland Cemetery†years ago, while on a trip home. Croall Family Burial Plot: Lair 25 Sec 62. Francis Croall - 22/3/1930. aged 72 Helen Croall – 28/3/1933. aged 72 Mgt Croall.- 14/12/1933. aged 38 Patrick Kerr.- 1/2/1956. aged 10. Patrick was my little brother. I was wondering if you could place your family in my family tree.? Was Annie one of my grandmothers sisters !. As I said I do not know much about the Croall side of the family and was wondering if you had any information on the children in each of the following families. 1. Francis Croall and Helen O’Neil 2. Patrick Croall and Helen Croall. (I’m not sure but Pat and Helen could have been cousins, both have the same surname?) For my records I need the following information on each person. a) Full Name. b) Sex. c) full date and place of birth. d) Father and Mothers names. e) Dates of Marriage. John McGhee & Annie Croall Do you have the exact dates of birth of the 4 children of John & Annie · John Croall – 1915 ?. · Mary (Minnie) McGhee · Bernard McGhee · Francis McGhee Where do John Croall & Elizabeth Dolan fit into the family line, Was this John who was born in 1915 ?. John Croall met and married Elizabeth (Lizzie) Dolan around XXXX. The lived at 65 Southfield Crescent in the Greenend area of Coatbridge. They had a family of 10: Do you have any dates of Birth, Marrage ,and deaths of these people. · William Croall. Owen Croall. James Croall - 6th June 1950. John Croall (my father). Bernard Croall. Elizabeth Croall. Anne Croall. Ellen Croall Terence Croall ----- December 2003, aged 53. Gordon Francis Croall . Family Burial Lair Croall family lair is at Old Monkland Cemetery; it is Section 91, Lair 54. This Lair has 5 Croalls buried in it: Name Date Buried Age William Croall 24.07.42 4 Owen Croall 15.08.45 2.5 James Croall 10.04.47 49 James Croall 08.06.50 10 John Croall 21.02.53 38
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Hi Bill, This is what I have:
Rose Ann Carr born 12 June 1866, father James Carr, mother Roseann Carr nee Sloan, address 130 Garngard Road, Glasgow.
Marriage Record: Rose Kerr, pottery worker, aged 21 married Peter Croal, carter, aged 20 (born 1 Dec 1868). Parents James Kerr and Rose Kerr nee Sloan and Patrick Croal, ironworker labourer, and Dora Croal nee Kerrigan.
Death Record: Rose Ann Croal, pottery worker, aged 50, married to Peter Croal, died 21 December 1916. Parents James Carr and Rose Ann Carr nee Sloan
Births: 19 March 1888 No Forename given, Croal, male, born 1 Hartfield Street,Glasgow. Parents Peter and Rose Croal nee Kerr.
25 January 1892, James Croal, born 68 Parliamentary Road, Glasgow. Parents Peter and Rose Croal nee Kerr.
16 August 1897, Ellen Croal, born 7 Middleton Place, Glasgow. Parents as above.
1871 Census, Barony, Glasgow 1 Hartfield Street Patrick Croal, 45 yrs, labourer, Ireland Dora Croal, 35 yrs, wife Edward Croal, 18 yrs, unmarried, puddler, Lks Glasgow Mary Croal, 16 yrs, unmarried, cotton store, Ireland Patrick Croal, 14 yrs, unmarried, potter, Ireland John Croal, 10 yrs, scholar, Ireland Peter Croal, 2 yrs, Ireland
Deaths:
Peter Croal jr. 15 August 1906, 16 months, found dead at 154 Garngard Road, Glasgow, cause of death unknown. Parents Peter and Rose Croal nee Carr.
Peter Croal, died 17 November 1943, age 74 yrs at 148 Blackhill Street, Glasgow, widower of Rose Ann Carr. Parents Patrick and Dora Croal nee Kerrigan. Witnee Ellen Croal, daughter in law of 150 Blackhill Street, Glasgow.
I don't see any obvious links but there are a few possibilities.
What do you think
Jim
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hi. dont know if this is coincedence. my gran is annie dolan born in coatbridge scotland she was born in 1921. my grandfather is john mcleary. they had four children together including my mother please contact me if this is helpful i know my gran may have had irish relations and my mother is also searching her family tree.
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Hi I have at last found the connection, I have a death Certificate for Mary Hernon (nee Croal) daughter of Edward Croall and Catherine Cullen. November 3rd 1884.
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