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Re: Oregon (USA) Crabers

Posted: 11 May 2011 10:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, Jim, I'm sorry that I know very little about him, but he very well could be from the Kröber family you mention. I haven't researched much about his life before he married my great-great-grandmother. I'll keep this in mind. I haven't even identified his parents. Thanks for your posting. --Allyson

Re: Oregon (USA) Crabers

Posted: 12 May 2011 7:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Allyson, thank you for your reply. I will be sure to post any info that I find on Herman. If you ever find anything like a birth date, please let us know.

Re: Oregon (USA) Crabers

Posted: 14 May 2011 3:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
My great-great grandmother received a widow's pension after Herman died on his way home from the Civil War. I'll see if his birthdate or other information is in the Civil War pension file, which got from the National Archives. I have a photo of Herman, provided by my Craber cousins. They didn't know who it was. Don't have permission from them to post it, but will try to get it.

Re: Oregon (USA) Crabers

Posted: 20 May 2011 8:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
I found what looks to be the 1860 census record of Herman Kroeber (see attached). He is enumerated as Herman Krorver, a farm laborer, in Nunda Township in McHenry County, Illinois. Here's the entire family:

Herman, age 32, born Saxony
Fanny, age 26, born NY
Esther, age 5, born IL
Eugene, age 3, born IL
Flora, age 3/12, born IL

Because he was listed as being born in Saxony, it is unlikely that he was part Kröber family from Winningen, Germany, as I previously stated. He is more likely from the Kröber family originating from Altenburger Land whose name comes from a small village east of Altenburg, Thuringia, named Kröbern.

I don't believe Altenburg, Thuringia; Leipzig, Saxony; or other areas of the present-day state of Saxony were ever part of Prussia. However, present-day state of Saxony-Anhalt was part of Prussia, known as the Province of Saxony from 1816 to 1945.

Herman Kroeber could have been born just east of the city of Zeitz. There are several small farm villages where Kröber families lived in or lived near as farmers. Those included: Sprossen, Loitsch, Spora, Nißma (Nissma), Kayna, and Hohenkirchen.

He was also listed as born in 1828. Others have him listed as born in 1832. This could have been an assumption because Fanny was born in 1834.

I also found a Hermann Kroeber, age 21, who arrived in New York on the ship "Gaston" on 1 Oct 1849. This sounds reasonable since he married Fanny Barnes of Erie County, NY in about 1852. Here's the link to that record:

http://www.castlegarden.org/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=821...
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Re: Oregon (USA) Crabers

Posted: 22 May 2011 4:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello. Thanks for the information on Herman Kroeber/Craber! I had found the 1860 census, but the other information was new. Esther and Flora died as children during the Civil War years while Herman was away, and a 3rd child, Augusta, died in the 1850's.
Before going to Illinois, Fanny lived in Buffalo, New York; she could've met Herman there.
Regards, Allyson

Re: Oregon (USA) Crabers

Posted: 23 May 2011 6:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 May 2011 6:07AM GMT
It looks like they had another child that died during the Civil War. Here's a list from the Lake Avenue Cemetery (Crystal Lake, IL):

Kroeber, Augusta A. died 9/14/1854 (aged: 1 yr, 4 mo, 26 dy)
Kroeber, child bur. 3/24/1864
Kroeber, child bur. 9/22/1865
Kroeber, female died/bur. 11/2/1865

source: http://www.cl-lakeavenuecemetery.org/cemetery.htm

I could not find any county death records, but Northern Illinois University does have the birth records for McHenry county starting from 1849 (IRAD depository). I guess research is free. They only charge for mailing and photocopying. Here's the link:

http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/iradsrch.html

Do you know if Herman died of battle wounds?

That must of have been really tough times for Fanny. It looks like she couldn't even pay for head stones for her three children who died in the 1960s. They all might have been older than Augusta for whom they did provide a stone. Esther was about 10 years old when she died. Flora was about five years old. Don't know how old the other child was, but possibly two.

I wonder if they were 48ers. Do you know? It is possible since Herman was in the Civil War at a relatively old age. The 48ers were revolutionaries that were typically liberal, secular, well-educated, professional, and very anti-slavery. Those that took up farming were called "Latin farmers" because they were said to know Latin better than English. If that's the case, they might have been from Leipzig.

Jim

Re: Oregon (USA) Crabers

Posted: 27 Aug 2011 7:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kroeber/Craber

Thanks for the info. I will look into the birth records.

I knew of children...

Kroeber, Esther, born abt 1855 [believed to be one who died]
Kroeber, Sylvester Eugene, born 15 Oct 1858 (he went on to marry, move to Oregon and have several children)
Kroeber, Flora, born abt 1860 [believed to be one who died]

Life must've been incredibly hard for my great-great grandmother while her husband was prisoner of war. I found a newspaper article about when he was taken prisoner. So I think he died at the end of the war, but was probably in very poor health, as he has lived as a POW,probably, through much of the war.

Here's the NY Times article that talks of his capture:
http://www.nytimes.com/1862/04/02/news/advance-results-recon...

I live in Oregon, and there's a science fiction writer named Ursula LeGuin. Her maiden name was Kroeber, and I found her father Alfred in the 1930 census in Berkeley, CA.

Thanks for sharing information.

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