Oliver Cope wrote his Will in May 1697. He begins by stating he is of New Castle County (Delaware) which would be correct (somehwat) in that his residence was below the PA line, BUT there was also a residence at Backington on Naaman's Creek near Philadelphia. At any rate, Wright has listed Oliver Cope's Will in his book on Philadelphia Wills. So I need to know, was this Will recorded in Philadelphia and not New Castle Co.? I want to obtain a full transcription of the Will and need to know whom to ask and where it is before I do and waste someone's time. Thanks
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I am (by way of 25 marker DNA test) a descendant of Oliver Cope. It is very difficult to trace linage back to mid 1600's so the most effective way is DNA.
I do have the descendancy list of two Oliver Cope descendants in my COPE DNA Project and I believe that they are very accurate. If you would like to contact me off-list, I will be glad to give anyone details.
Also, there is an enormous amount of information on Oliver Cope available through Google Search.
Eddie Cope
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I too am a descendant of Oliver Cope. I have a copy of his will. It is in very bad condition ,water damage and very hard to read. The will is at the Register of Wills Room 180 City Hall Philadelphia, PA 19107 index #W151-1697 I would love to hear from any other descendants of Oliver. Sharon
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I have a copy of this Will, transcribed, and in an ongoing updated work that was first started by Gilbert Cope. This includes the ancestors as well as the known descendants of the Cope family. I am always accepting submissions to this work and am willing to share any information that someone might be missing. You can either email me at rinkitink@prodigy.net, or mail me at: Lake Hunter Terrace, 1005 W Dorothy St., Lakeland, FL 33815-4416. Hope to hear from you! Richard S. Boswell
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Do you have the linage to the royals? It needs to be verified. The Hussey line has already been shown wrong. Linda
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Linda ... I am still pursuing the ancestry and the extended descendants of Oliver Cope (nearly a 1000 pages now) ... I am interested in what you have on the Hussey line ... in answer to the other question, as it stands, there seems to be no confirmation or denial of the Cope's link to the Copes of Hanwell. I am currently in correspondence with some folks in Wiltshire looking for some original source material. In the past, there was some refutation based on that some alleged records simply didn't exist (or were fabricated), and that a "distance" issue between villages (then) would not have lent to them being related one way or another. I have pretty much thrown out the distance thing, the Cope's .. .while they were primarily in Wiltshire, Oxford and Hampshire, did indeed travel these distances. And, initially, it was believed that Oliver's own family may not have been adherents to the Society of Friends, but I'm finding that there is the possibility they were. Still, it's a matter of dissecting all the possibilites. I have, in my own work, separated these possibilites in that there was a very early Cope (then Coape) family that seems to have been the progenitor of all the main families. Also, that Oliver's wife was Rebecca Crooke has never been confirmed .. that came from me in an email speculating the remote possibility (Noah Crooke was the admin. of Oliver's father's Will and Noah was also a tailor, there is no mention that Noah -- as far as I have found, had a daughter Rebecca). Rebecca could have been a daughter of several families. One theory I am looking into is that she could also be -- dare I say in that this will be turned into fact-- that she could be a member of the Calley family. Oliver (or Olyver) Calley signed the Will of John Cope, Oliver's father. The Calley's had been in Chisledon a long time, owned a lot of farms and held the position of Lord Mayor of Chisledon. I had thought somewhat that Stafford's March, the name of the farm that John wworking when he died, was a rent farm .. however, his Will does not reflect this, and there is the poss. that he actually owned Stafford's March. I am currently looking into that ownership, and trust me this is very slow going. I have a sneaking suspicion that the Calleys may have some connection here. We (others in Wiltshire and I) have discussed that usually names as witnesses on Wills of that era were likely related. The other witness to John's Will was Richard Charmer ... and I have no leads on him. In short, there may be just enough information to stronglly speculate the connection to the Cope family is real, but not enough to "prove" other than by process of elimination. I am also attemopting to locate where "Stafford's March" may have been. Chisledon is not large, but there are SO many records not yet gone through. Hopefully we will have some luck there. That Oliver Cope was in Avebury was not by members of his father's family, but likely his mother's -- and this followed a Quaker "tradition" (so to speak). I will be happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability on what I have, and I always looking to add to the pages of descendents. I have just received a copy of of John's Will from Wiltshire, and have pictures of family members, signatures, etc. It's been an ongoing project for many years. :)
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Eddie I was just wondering if you might be my long lost cousin, Eddie Wayne Cope son of Dallas "June" Cope and Eva Kate Patrick of Bluff City TN. You can email me off list at s.a.s@knology.netSheila
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I'd be glad to give you want has been said on the Husseys and my husband's line from the Cope's. Could you tell me how to get a copy of the will? Linda
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