I have discovered John was probably born in Duing Cavan Ireland , Some People who may be members of his family are John 53 in 1871 living in London also a Peter aged 38 Julia aged and a Joseph aged 15 all born in Cavan and all in london in 1871. There was also a Michael whom i think might be a brother of John who was staying in Tynemouth Northumberland in 1871 and was born dublin Ireland in1846.Selina was the one who was born in Devon ,Devonshire, England in 1823. I would love to here from anyone who could help me find out more about them ,my g g greatgrandparents.