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Where did Cogdell family live in Dobbs Co. before 1800?

Where did Cogdell family live in Dobbs Co. before 1800?

Posted: 29 Jun 2013 4:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cognell, Herrin, Miller, Noble
Can anyone tell me where in Dobbs county the Cogdell families lived. They came from Switzerland to New Bern to Carteret and Dobbs. One died in Wayne Co. Married into Herring/Herrin/Herren family. Also mentioned in association with Jacob Miller whose family married into the Phielmon Noble group. Wondered if they lived near Trent River in southern part of county near the Nobles. Any help appreciated.

Re: Where did Cogdell family live in Dobbs Co. before 1800?

Posted: 30 Jun 2013 2:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cogdell
Hi there, Sadly I am unable to answer your question, but I would like to put one of my own. Do you know where in Switzerland they came from.
As far as I am aware of, the COGDELL's are in England around the 1530's (Abbots Langley) and I have heard romours that they came from France, but not heard about any Switzerland connection before now.
I know some COGDELL's get to Australia and the USA.Anywhere else that we have managed to get to ?

Regards all,

Ivor Cogdell

Birmingham, UK

Re: Where did Cogdell family live in Dobbs Co. before 1800?

Posted: 30 Jun 2013 8:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you but I do not know where in Switzerland they came from. You might put a post out on the Switzerland board and ask.

They came to New Bern North Carolina with DeGraffenried's group and the immigrant was John Cogdell.

Do a search for them on rootsweb.com - worldconnect.

Re: Where did Cogdell family live in Dobbs Co. before 1800?

Posted: 24 Jul 2014 2:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cogdell, Bridges, Hardee

** The following is taken from the Cogdell Book. This is an example of our history from 1711 to date. Bobby L. Cogdell has the entire book, entitled “Ancestors of Frank Cogdell”. The book was written by Wilma S. Cogdell, January 6, 1996. COGDELL John¹ Cogdell, the immigrant, died about 1711 in New Bern, NC. He may have come to America in 1710 with Baron Christopher DeGraffenreid’s party from Switzerland and settled in New Bern, NC, arriving there in September 1710. The settlers of New Bern suffered many hardships soon after their arrival including almost complete destruction of property by the Tuscarora Indians in 1711. New Bern is the second oldest city in North Carolina and was Provincial Capital for several years. Hawks in his History of North Carolina stated that the Cogdells were Swiss. The names George Coxdell and Charles Coxdell were taken from a list of jurymen in Carteret County in 1723. Perhaps this is because this has been so generally believed that no investigation has been made. Items contained in the Craven Precinct records indicate that they did not belong to DeGraffenreid’s colony but were of an entirely different section of Bath County (Re. Early Cogdells of Eastern North Carolina by Marybelle Delamar, Raleigh, NC, 1946). Other sources list them as being from England and legend among some of the Cogdells is that they were from Scotland. The Cogdells have at least one distinction—there are not many of them and all that were in the United States at least through the late 1800s were related, being descendants of John Cogdell, the immigrant who came to America sometime prior to 1710. John Cogdell died shortly after he got to America and in 1711 his sons, Charles and George, were orphans. The following 3 items found in Bath County, Craven Precinct, NC County Court minutes of Pleas & Quarter Session, Book 1 (1712-1715): Jan 21, 1712 Capt. Thomas Brown brought into court the will of Jon Cogdle but it was not allowed by the court to be good or authentic because John did not name an executor so was cut out. On the same day, the two sons of John Cogdle, Charles and George Cogdell, chose George Bell to be their guardian and became his indentured servants, bound to George Bell until they were 21 years old. During the time of their indenture to Bell, he was supposed to teach them or cause them to be taught to read and write. December 23, 1712 Thomas Brown went to court and petitioned for a month’s diet for Charles and George Cogdle but the court was of the opinion that their labor was sufficient satisfactory for the debt. The court allowed Brown 3 pounds, 9 shillings and 6 pence to be paid out of John Cogdell’s estate. March 10, 1714 Charles and George Coggdaile and George Bell were again in court. The complaint was made that Charles and George were not being taught to read and write. George Bell’s answer to the court was that the time of their servitude had not half expired; that during the time they had been with him, they were well used and much time allowed them in their reading and writing and that he intended to instruct them in the building of ships and asked the court that Charles and George remain with him until the time in the indenture specified be expired. (Until they became 21 years of age) (North Carolina Colonial Records, Vol 2 pg 172). John¹ Cogdell’s Children: - Charles Cogdell born ca 1696 died after 1761o Continued- Separate section- pg2 - George Cogdell born ca 1698 died 1761 m Margaret Bello Continued- Separate section- pg 12 *** Charles² Cogdell (John¹, pg 1) born about 1698 died after 1761 (he was a member of the assembly in 1761) married Mary. Charles Cogdell’s name appears on Poll Tax list for Craven Precinct for years 1717, 1718 and 1719 and George Cogdell’s name appears on the 1719 list (The North Carolina Gen. Soc. Journal, Vol 1 No. 2 April 1975, NC Archives File #CCR190). Charles had to be 21 years of age to pay poll tax. The 1720 tax list for Craven Precinct shows names of white indentured servants as well as negro and Indian slaves: “Chas Cogdell & Georg_ Cogdell and (illegible) a negro woman- total 3” (Photocopy of original tax list in The Carolina Genealogist). By October 1722 Charles Cogdell had come of age and had a land grant for 130 acres in Core Sound on North River in North Carolina on east side of North River, joining the upper corner pond on the creek side (Patent Book 2 pg 292) (NC Land Patents 1663-1729 by M Hofmann). Aug 2, 1726 Charles Cogdale 240 acres on southwest side of New River, joining Sandy Point, (Patent Book 2, pg 228) (Ibid) Charles Cogdell served as Justice of the Court in 1727 and frequently after that time. He was a Capt. of Militia during the Spanish Alarm of 1747, a vestryman of St. John’s Parish and represented the county in the legislature in 1733. He was appointed Justice for Carteret on April 3, 1733 and Justice of Peace for Carteret at the Council of New Bern Dec 4, 1744. He was a member of the assembly where in April 1761 he was charged with contempt for throwing a cat upon Mr. Charles Robinson, one of the members of the House while in the Council Chambers. Mr. Cogdell confessed a cat leaped on his shoulders from a staircase and he on a surprise threw it from him, which might have fallen on Mr. Robinson but with no design or contempt to any member of the House. Charles was reprimanded by Mr. Speaker and ordered discharged, paying the fees. In 1759 Charles Cogdell was reimbursed 9 pounds, 17 shillings, 2 pence for expenses incurred in connection with the Cherokee Indian Nation. He was well versed on expeditions into Cherokee Indian territory and history speaks of the surprising ease with which people traveled great distances into a region so recently wrested from the Indians, especially the freedom of movement experienced by such persons as Charles Cogell and others. (This may have been Charles Cogdell, Jr) (Carolina Cradle) The first record of Charles buying land was May 26, 1726 when he bought 373 acres in the Precinct of Carteret from Josiah Doty of Plymouth in the Colony of New England for 40 pounds. In 1727 Josiah Doty was master of a whaling ship operating at Cape Lookout on the Outer Banks of NC. They caught a great number of whales from which Doty realized 300 barrels of oil.

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Re: Where did Cogdell family live in Dobbs Co. before 1800?

Posted: 25 Jul 2014 1:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you - answers my question.

Maybe you can help me

Posted: 25 Jul 2014 4:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have been reserching the Cogdell family you years. Mainly following them as they moved across the US, in to Arkansas then to Texas. There was a large group of Cogdells, Hortons, Hardees, Stewarts that moved from Cross Co. Ak to Denton Co. Tx between 1900-1910. What was the draw to Denton I can't find land grants or anything else. Any clues?

Re: Maybe you can help me

Posted: 26 Jul 2014 2:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
No clue about Denton Tx. If not for land, maybe natural resources, some job opportunity or family. Were they escaping something? Natural disaster or disease?

Re: Maybe you can help me

Posted: 26 Jul 2014 9:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Donna and everybody,
No clue on Denton either, but I did come across a possible line of investigation, Try one of the local history forums, I found this one :-

http://www.texasescapes.com/TravelAndTexasForum.htm

See what the locals think.

Regards all,

Ivor Cogdell
Birmingham, UK

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