Well, after some research getting back into this, I've found two ships manifests listing the merchant ship known as a "pink", the John & William. They were typically 2 or 3 masted. There were two crossings of Peter & his brothers in 1728 & 1734 to Philly, PA. I'm having trouble accessing my old posts & replies from 2001 to 2003? I've also noticed the site has changed so much there seems to be no surname homepage anymore with all posts grouped together? I also found out that Peter's grandfather, named Kroeger, was born 1600 & died 1684. One quest led me to a town in Upper Bavaria where we're from where the wall ran right through the middle of it. Sems it was around Wurzburg?