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Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

blujgroup  (View posts) Posted: 9 Apr 2005 11:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Chuck Metcalf
Apparently your post and my answer to it concerning Joseph and Fannie Cobb did not make it to the board. If your out there answer this I have quite a bit of info you should be interested in.

JwC

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

chuckmetcalf  (View posts) Posted: 12 Apr 2005 12:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Jerry,

I found an e-mail message you sent about this and replied. Later I found another e-mail that my antispam software mistook for spam and dumped on me. At any rate, I would appreciate any information that you may have.

Thanks, Chuck

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

Jerry W. Cobb  (View posts) Posted: 13 Apr 2005 1:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Chuck,

Info I have

Joseph Cobb was born 26 Sept 1847, Porter county, Indiana to Asa Cobb and Anne Cobb (Fleming).

1850 Census shows Joseph age 3 in Home of Asa and Ann(e) in Porter township, Porter county, Indiana
1860 Census shows Joseph age 13 and my Ggrandfather John 7 with Ann Cobb (Asa had Shortly before died) in Porter twp, Porter, Indiana.
I don’t have an 1870 census on Joseph since I was following John, but suspect he was still in Indiana.
The 1880 census finds Joseph and Wife Fannie ((Mueller)married 20 Sep 1867 at Porter county, Indiana) in Fletchall Twp, Worth, Missouri and 6 children.
2 houses away was John and His wife Eva with 2 children.
I don’t have any more census info on Joseph, however I have photos of his and Fannies Tombstone, plus 1 of their infant children in Honey Grove cemetery, Fletchall,Worth, Missouri.
This line of Cobbs is the Cobbs in the book “Descendants of Asa Cobb” by Fred Sherwood. (Microfilm of the publication is available through the Morman family libraries.

Now have said all of this, let me throw in the kicker.

I don’t believe Joseph was you Gfather’s father. I believe it was John, same as mine. I don’t have any Charles’ in what little I have of Joseph’s children. However, John had a Charles by his second wife Mary Jane Williamson.

In fact, you had a query out a long time ago that I saw somewhere (don’t remember where) about Charles living down the street from a Frank Cobb which you thought might be related. They were half brothers. Again I replied, but apparently got it wrong cause I never heard from you.
Frank was my Grand father from John and Eva (Died: 18 Sept 1887 in Fletchall, also buried in Honey Grove). I have a lot more, but it doesn’t seem my emails will get to you through the forumn. If you want to contact me directly at blujgroup@hotmail.com I’ll try to get as much possible for you. It may take me awhile as I am extremely busy right now with the last few days of tax season. Lest me know if you got this
JwC

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

Chuck Metcalf  (View posts) Posted: 13 Apr 2005 2:28AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks Jerry.

I suspect you are right in as much as Joseph wasn't my great grandfather's father. From the census information I found on Fannie, I don't think that Charles could have been her son.

The Frank that I mentioned in another query was a Frank H Cobb that I found in the same county (Osage) in the 1910 Oklahoma federal census. It did not have an age for Frank, but it indicated that Frank was born in Missouri like Charles and that his parents were born in Indiana like Charles. I thought that Frank and Charles may be brothers because of this information and because my dad's cousin said that Charles had a brother named Frank who eventually was in Bartlesville Oklahoma in the 1950s.

Of course I'm going strictly on speculation that the Charles Cobb in Worth County, Missouri in 1900 is the same Charles Cobb in Osage County, Oklahoma in 1910.

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

Jerry  (View posts) Posted: 13 Apr 2005 11:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Chuck,
I never know quite what the "genealogy experts" consider definitive proof. I am convinced on my finding, but will try over the next couple weeks to send you what I have and you can decide for yourself.
Also the Frank in the 1910 was my grandfather Frank Harvey Cobb. He was not however in bartlesville in the 50's. He had moved on to Jones Oklahoma in the 30's and died in 1947.
My internet is super slow, unable to get hi-speed, so will probably give you times, place etc on census data so you can find them yourself since the files are quite large.
Take care,
JwC

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

Chuck Metcalf  (View posts) Posted: 13 Apr 2005 10:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks again Jerry,

This gives me something to work off of. Times, dates, locations and of course names are great. I am fortunate enough that my local library offers HeritageQuest searches from home via my library card number. I'll take what you have offered and spend a few evenings with it for sure.

From what you've provided I think that you are right about your Frank and my Charles being brothers. Would you have any idea where Chrales may have gone after 1910? I haven't been able to locate anything that would appear to be a match in any other census records I've looked at.

And I agree with you as far as not being sure what some "genealogy experts" require as rock solid proof. I just had a pretty good hunch about Frank H Cobb in the 1910 census being Charles' brother and didn't want to make too many assumptions. On the other end of the spectrum though, I had someone once suggest to me that I had no idea what my grandmother's name was because the only information I had was what my grandmother told me. I never did understand what this person's logic was regarding this. Perhaps my 90 pound, widowed grandmother was in the federal witness protection program. : )

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

Chuck Metcalf  (View posts) Posted: 14 Apr 2005 2:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
I found a John Cobb in the 1900 Oklahoma Territory where the birthplace (Indiana) and birthdate (1853) seem to fit. The wife's name is Mary and there are Chester L, Alta F, and Johnnie. Chester's birthplace is listed as Missouri. Do you suppose this is the same John and perhaps the census taker mistook the name Charles L for Chester L?

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

Jerry  (View posts) Posted: 14 Apr 2005 11:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Chester is real. He was born 09/10/1889 and died in 11/15/1972. He is buried in Blackburn Cemetery, Blackburn, Ok along with John C. and wife.
I've been looking through some of my side line info, and cannot find why I have Charlie (Listed in my file as Charlie not Charles) b: between 1890 and 1891. I still have lots of stuff to send and maybe it can lead to others. Chester may have been named after one of John C.'s son-in-laws William Chester Allen.
The 1930 census you quoted is indeed John C. and family, but the Chester is real. 1910 John C. was in Manegaw, St Clair, Missouri and Grandson William B. Allen was living with them. Williams mother had died in 1905.
I have not found a 1920 census on John C. so not sure what the deal is there. I also don't have the page Charles is near Frank.
To be truthful, about the only help I can be until I remember or find out why I have Charlie in my file is to send you as much as possible about the family in general and let you sort through it. I am working on that and should have it soon.
JwC

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

Chuck Metcalf  (View posts) Posted: 15 Apr 2005 1:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Wow Jerry,

It sounds as though you have quite a bit of info. I'll look forward to seeing it when you have the time. No rush though. It sounded like the other night you may be involved with taxes.

Thanks Chuck

Re: Fannie and Joesph Cobb, mo

kathleen9436  (View posts) Posted: 22 Jun 2009 9:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
I am a N.Y. Cobb, I have Fannie Pearl married to a Henry Cobb from Vermont and they had a son Joseph. Do we have a connection?

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