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Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 12 Aug 2007 1:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Coakley

On 2-24-1838, Denis Mahony m. Ellen Coakley in the RC chapel at Dunmanway; witnesses were Jeremiah Mahony and James Coakley. The Coakleys were of Manch, Dunmanway (Fanlobbus civil parish). Is anyone researching this family?

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 15 Aug 2007 5:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: COAKLEY-COKELY
Hello! Yes, I am looking for James Coakley and any others I can locate. I have very little to go on though. My relatives settled in IL. I found an old card with some pictures that said: Manch, Dunmanway and Cork but nothing else. I am planning a trip to Ireland in October. Carolyn

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 18 Aug 2007 12:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Coakley, Mahony, Mahoney
Carolyn, thank you for replying to my message on the Coakley board. My grandmother, who was born in 1874 in Ireland, and who settled in New Hampshire, told her children that we were related to the Coakleys. She, of course, spoke of her paternal family, the Mahonys, and her maternal family, the Kingstons. The only other family my uncle remembered her mentioning by name was the Coakley family. I found no Coakleys near her in NH so assume she was speaking of Ireland. The Mahonys seemed to live at different times in the parishes of Drimoleague, Caheragh, and Dunmanway. I am beginning to think, looking at Mahony/Coakley marriages, that the Coakleys generally came from Dunmanway, while the Mahonys originated in both Dunmanway and Drimoleague parishes. I found a picture in a Drimoleauge newsletter of a Nan Mahony, possibly born in the 1920's. She resembled my mother to such an extent that I feel there HAS to be a connection. Supposedly, Nan was the daughter of Michael Mahony. Because her mother died young, Nan was raised with a Deane family. Looking at Michael Mahony, father of Nan, his parents were Denis Mahony and Honora Donovan, married in the 1870's. When looking for Denis's parents, the best hypothesis would be Denis Mahony and Ellen/Nellie Coakley of Manch. Now, this would all make sense since my grandmother stressed that we were connected to the Coakleys. There were quite a few Coakley/Mahony marriages so perhaps there are many interconnected families. This marriage took place in the RC parish of Dunmanway on February 24, 1838. Witnesses were Jermiah Mahony and James Coakley.

I don't know the age of your James, but it is interesting that the name appears in your family and on this marriage record.

My ggrandfather was born out of wedlock so it has been difficult to trace back very far. He was born in 1826 in Toam, Dunmanway.

My email address is janfortado@comcast.net if you would like to email me offline. I was in Ireland in May and transcribed records at the National Library, the Mahony/Coakley marriage being one of them. I would LOVE to hear from you when you return from your trip. Is there any way I can help before you go? I have taken several trips to Dublin to look at records.

Do you have the name of James's parents from either his marriage record or his death record?
Jan

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 17 Jul 2008 7:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Coakley, Crowley
Hello. I ran across this thread while typing up some research notes from 5 years ago and googling some of the places and names. These are notes from a relative of mine who lives in County Cork around Clonakilty. Her great-grandfather, whose last name was Crowley, and first name was possibly Florence (Fleury) married a Coakley woman from Manch, Dunmanway. This would have been some time in the 1850s perhaps. They had nine children and lived at a place called Knockahaduve, outside Dunmanway. I'm hoping to travel to Ireland again next year and do research in Dublin. Didn't get to it last time.

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 18 Jul 2008 12:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mahony, Coakley, Mahoney
I have just written to a Mr. Coakley who lives in Manch (or very close by). I enclosed a stamped (Irish), self-addressed, envelope. I have found that enclosing a stamped envelope gets me more reponses, but I also find that people are hesitant to write, but they don't mind your knocking on their door if you are in Ireland. I am really out in left field trying go figure out which Coakleys are related to us (my grandmother's words). When I found the picture of a Nan Mahony, who looked just like my mother, and learned that her grandmother or ggrandmother had been a Coakley from Manch, I began to try to zero in on that family. I am having a difficult time getting information on Nan's family. If I find this is part of my Mahony family, then that could be the Coakley connection. As I mentioned in one of my postings, because my ggrandfather was born out of wedlock, information is on the "short side." I also go to Dublin to do research but don't know if I will be going next year or not. My email address is janfortado@comcast.net if you would prefer to email me off the boards. Jan

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 25 Jul 2008 7:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Coakley
Hi there Jan, my name is Kate and am the latest generation of Coakley to live in Manch. My father was interested to receive your letter and has passed it on to a Deane lady in Drimoleague and will also pass to a cousin of ours, jim collins whose mother was a Coakley and has done years of work on the family history. There have been Coakleys in manch since the early 1800's as far as we know. When we get some more definite information for you I will endeavour to pass it on.

Kate

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 25 Jul 2008 11:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Kate, I was SO EXCITED to read your message. PLEASE thank your father for his interest. I REALLY appreciate it. I couldn't believe it when I saw the picture of the four girls in the Drimoleague newsletter. I realize this could just be a big coincidence, but the resemblance between my mother and Nan Mahony was unbelievable. I guess because I inherit my mother's features, I was even more interested. I think we all like to know where our families came from and whom we look like. One or two generations ago, having a child born out of wedlock in the US was not something people talked about so I can assume that because my great-grandfather, Maurice Mahony, was born out of wedlock in 1826, that was not something the families in Ireland were not happy about either. At my age, I have learned to put aside some of the old fashioned beliefs in the US and try to look at things as the good Lord would look at them. I can honestly say that a child born out of wedlock usually results from a moment of passion and cannot compare to someone who has been abusive for years or has committed pre-meditated murder. You would think, when I was growing up, that was the case. I think rules and regulations, imposed by man, have gotten far away from the teachings of Jesus, who went out of his way to forgive and to accept everyone. So the fact that my ggrandfather was born out of wedlock, I want you to know, is of no significance to me. I am amazed that he lived through the Gorta Mor and was able to find work to feed so many children. Both of his wives died "before their time." So Maurice had a really hard life. My purpose, in my search, is to learn more about my family and to try to find which family is mine. All eight of my great-great-grandparents were born in Ireland so I really have a great love for Ireland. I have visited several times, sometimes only to do research at the National Library in Dublin. I have visited with Margaret McCarthy of Toureen, who descends from the Kealanine Mahonys. We think, because Maurice died there, he must have been connected in some way. I first visited Ireland in 1997. I went to the Old Caheragh Cemetery, where my Mahonys were supposed to have been buried. The caretaker told me that I had missed the "one person who knew something about everyone buried in that cemetery by a fortnight." I have never forgotten that disappointment. So right now all I have to go on is (1) My grandmother told her children that they were related to the Coakleys. (2) Maurice Mahony, son of Michael Mahony and Julia Collins, was baptized in 1826 in the Roman Catholic chapel at Dunmanway. He first married Eliza Kingston in 1856 and as a widower married Maria Kingston in 1870. He lived in Kealanine from about 1856-1861. He next lived in Castledonovan, and from about 1868-1873 he lived in Leitra, where Nan Mahony's family would have lived. (3) Nan's father Michael, I think was the son of Denis Mahony and Honora Donovan and I am thinking that Denis's parents might have been Denis Mahony and Nellie Coakley. Perhaps the family tree that Jim Collins's mother worked on would have this family. (4) My grandmother, Ellen Mahony, was born in Gurteeniher (her sister Annie was born in Leitra) in 1874. She came to the U.S. when she was about 18. Her older sister (by Maurice's first wife) had raised her. I have used land records and never found Maurice as head of household in any of the townlands where his children were born so I am assuming he lived with family.
Kate, we are leaving for a two-week vacation so if you email me on the boards or use my personal email in the next two weeks, please don't think I am ignoring you. We simply won't have access to email. Thank you again, and I REALLY look forward to hearing from you. Janice Kenney Fortado (Jan) janfortado@comcast.net

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 21 Aug 2008 12:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Kate, I realize that many people in Ireland go on holiday in August so you might be on holiday. I just wanted you to know that I am looking forward to hearing from you. I was wondering if you have learned anything of interest. Thanks so much, Jan

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 17 Aug 2009 10:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Check the 1911 Irish census, it's free on line. Ellen Coakley lived at house No.3 Manch Toam and Denis Mahony at No.7. I am researching the family at No.8 John Coakley.I don't know the relationship with Ellen. I believe John Coakley(jun b c1899)arrived in America (San Francisco) from Australia on 1st Sept. 1930, destination Oakland California.

Re: Coakleys of Manch, Dunmanway, Cork, Ireland

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 12:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Coakley, Mahony, Mahoney, Deane
I still have some loose ends so I cannot be sure which Coakley family my grandmother was referring to. In addition to finding THAT Coakley family, I found a picture of a Nan Mahony who was practically the "spitting image" of my mother. In searching this family, I found her father was Michael Mahony, son of Denis Mahony and Honora Donovan. Trying to get one step farther back, I feel fairly certain that Denis's father was also Denis who married Ellen Coakley of Manch in Dunmanway RC parish in 1828. If I could JUST FIND a living descendant of Nan Mahony's, I could get an important puzzle piece, I am sure.

I have learned that Nan's mother died young so she was raised by her aunt (7-23-1908: Anne Mahony,Leitry, Drimoleague, married Henry William Deane, vintner,
Drimoleague, son of William Deane (deceased), vintner, in the RC parish of Drimoleague with Jeremiah Donovan and Mamie O’Brien as marriage witnesses)I would say that Nan was born a little before or after 1919, but I have not yet found her birth record. That would give me her mother's name. I understand Nan married but without her married name I cannot trace to present descendants.

I think I am grasping at straws, but I am hoping it will pay off. I am actually searching for the Coakley connection, hoping it will lead me to where my Mahonys originate. Jan
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