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La Historia de la Familia Celaya de Florence,Az

La Historia de la Familia Celaya de Florence,Az

Marcella Celaya Robles (View posts)
Posted: 31 Aug 2000 11:19AM GMT
FYI: I am in the final stages of completing
the Third Edition of a 315 page book entitled
"La Historia de la Familia Celaya de Florence, Arizona," which is about my mother,
Aurora Telles Celaya de Robles. The book traces genealogically historically the
Bebiano Crisanto Celaya families circa 1810
to the present from Altar District, Sonora,
Mexico...to Tucson, Florence Tempe, Arizona. Though there are some generational
gaps from 1550-1700, the first-generation
Spanish Conquistador Celaya-Urdaneta is traced from Spain's Basque Country province
of Guipuzcoa, Spain to Ciudad Celaya, Mexico
circa 1570. I've also traced the earliest
recorded Celaya's to Onate, Guipuzcoa, Spain
around 1388. My First Edition of this book
on my mother's Celaya-Telles-Beltran-Granillo
family was gifted to Arizona State University
at Tempe, Arizona, Hayden Library, Luhrs Reading Room, Arizona Chicano Research Collection and is available for public
perusal.
If anyone is interested in the upcoming
Third Edition, contact me via Email at
marcella@aztec.asu.edu for future availability cost.

Celaya Surname/History

Enedina Walden Celaya (View posts)
Posted: 6 Dec 2000 3:22PM GMT
Marcella,

The Celaya's were never Spanish Conquistador's, because they are not from Spain originally! They have Basque blood (heritage amongst everything else). My grandfather Carlos Cruz Celaya (first one to be born in Mexico, but also USA citizen, because his mother was from Tucson, Arizona. They had arranged marriages still then and my grandfather's-father was disowned for marrying my portugese greatgrandmother (her family were pirates/merchants), who were later USA citizen.

Not all the Celaya's stayed in Mexico, some went back home after the city Celaya, Mexico was named after them (when they fought the English for parts of what Spain owned in southwest USA). Afterwards some of the Celaya's returned later through Mexico around the 1900's, my greatgrandfather. We were the first Celaya's here in Arizona, because my granfather was the first sharif of Glendale,Arizona and he found your same surname on the census later. He visited your family around the 1940's or so,and my father went with him.

My grandfather Carlos Cruz Celaya told me the "Celaya's" were called "Soilders Of Fortune" and sometimes "Mersonaries." They were Muslims. Some Aya (root-name of Celaya) were Jewish, and they didn't become Christians (Roman Catholic) until much later. All their family names are on the maps (cities / towns) as they won their battles they were given their names. Some regions they fought in for example Indonesia/ Asia / Middle East, Macedonia, Russia, etc... they fought only for the highest $$$. They were some of the Moors, Turkish, and Barbers who invaded Spain.

There was an Arab Kingdom in the Basque region,(there are history papers stating of the migration of arabs into the Basque country, check with your local libraries) some of the family migrated within the Portugese/France/Spanish Basque/ French Basque Pryness Basque region. The name "Celaya" is Lebanese (came from around Mt. Lebanon,etc...) it means a field!
(i.e. of other family names Hedaya, Soraya, Hayek, Haya, Kaya, Maya, Saba, Haddad, Hadad, Basha, Khoury, Mason, Lara, Fabian, Fares, Gamal, Gamil,Gamel,Kalil, Ayaz, Luppa, Ali, Bi, Fatima, Fatimah, Alam (-i, -e, -a), Mebarak, Barak, Batticha, El Shadi, Narvaez, Khan, Khalafa,Atlas, Gonzales,Gold, Sharnoubi, etc... I have all the names listed. I will be posting my information when I'm done. May take time (a year or so before I'm done) though, I still need to put all my paper's together, before I'm done. I do know there were Celtic's and German's, Italians, Greeks, India, etc...in this army amongst gypsies.

They were never under Cortes (Cortez). Hernan Cortes is my great-gr-gr-gr-uncle (or so), he married a cousin from Spain from our family and his residence was in Cuba. Cortes (Cortez) born in 1485-1547. The Moors invaded Spain in 611 AD, until 1492 of January, and still there were arabs in the bottom of Granada, Spain.

To find family background, break the name down to it's root which is "Aya." Aya is Asian any last name with aya, aye, eya, oya, oyo,ayo, aoya, ayaz (ayar),etc... are of asian descent and they all derived from "Aya." The root "Aya" is Oriental (Japanese/ Chinese/ Mongolian), Jewish, Persian, Turkish, Armenian, Arab, Greek, Indian (as in India), Indonesian, Indo-China, Southwest/Southeast Asia (off top of thinking, so if I've left anything out, sorry).

The name Selaya, it may have been changed from Celaya to Selaya in Mexico/ South Central America only if it had been Celaya/ Zelaya in the first place. The Selaya"s from Indonesia spelled "Selayar," they are arabs that had migrated to Celebes Islands around 13th century. The name spelling changed, because of pronounciation of the countries. They are part of the Celaya's, but it is not the original spelling. Possibly, the Selaya's might be the ones who migrated from there into South/Central America into Mexico,
because there is no other record of name Selaya except for in Indonesia/ South Central America and in Mexico only from what I've found. They don't connect back to the original spelling anymore (they are an off branch). The name Zelaya are also Celaya's, and they are still connected within the same family. The surname changed from Celaya to Zelaya with the Greeks and the Portugese (the name migrates back to Celaya).

Anyway, the surname "Celaya," it's prefix is Cel- it originates from indonesia when the Asian's like I said entered around 100 BC or so. They entered all of what is Indonesia, etc... There's a country right outside of India an Island called "Sri Lanka," which use to be called ancient times "Ceylon." Well, you take in reguards that people spelled names the way they sounded, so adding onto -aya, the " y " is silent, because "Ceylon" is pronounced (Se'elon). So therefore, Cel- was added to -aya and finally "Celaya." All other asian family names, I have found around the same region of Asia too! Also, we were royalty in Sri Lanka (Ceylon),the family name "Jaya" (Hindu's). The Mahavamsa relates that the island was conquered in 504 BC by Vijaya, a Hindu prince from northeast India. After subjugating the aboriginal inhabitants, a people now known as Veddas, Vijaya married a native princess, encouraged emigration from the mainland, and made himself ruler of the entire island (found information in "Funk Wagnalls New Encyclopedia," vol.24, pg297, published since 1876. There are other Jaya's who held offices in 1978, and so on. There is a (first name ?) Jaya Celaya, and a (first name?) Jayo Celaya too. But, I know they were never, ever, conquistador's. I told my Dad, Robert De La Huerta Celaya, Sr. and he said someone has the wrong information, or their guessing! But, he did say, they were not conquistadors,they were called "Soilders Of Fortune," and Cortes (Hernan Cortez)wasn't even born at that time!

Note: The Spanish took words and letter arrangements from the Arab lanuage to incorporate meanings in their language.

Bye, Enedina Walden Celaya

Celaya Spanish Conquistador

Marcella Celaya Robles de Kuamoo (View posts)
Posted: 8 Dec 2000 8:01AM GMT
Spanish Conquistador Andres de Guipuzcoa Celaya de Urdaneta,
from Guipuzcoa Province, Basque Country, Spain (b.bef 1510), the son of Juan Ochoa de Urdaneta
Gracia de Celaya (b. bef 1500), is listed as one of the Encomendieros
(landowning aristocrats) on New Galicia, New Spain in 1538, under First Conqueror Nuno Beltran
de Guzman's campaign (Re: Prof Carl Lawrence Duaine,"With All Arms, a Study of Kindred Groups,"
New Santander Press: U.of Texas;1987...Marcella

looking for ancestors

Edward Granillo (View posts)
Posted: 10 Feb 2001 4:23PM GMT
I'm just beginning the task of searching about the Granillo name, history, etc.
- background; family currently located in Redlands, California.
- grandfather: Alfonso Granillo
- birthplace: Redlands
- looking for any kind of help to get me started.

Granillo Family History

Marcella Celaya Robles (View posts)
Posted: 11 Feb 2001 3:30PM GMT
Hello: My maternal grandmother, Tomasa Granillo Telles de Celaya (b. 1881
in Florence, Arizona was a "Granillo" by
birth. Her father was Josevio Granillo, son of Francisco Granillo, who was originally from
Santa Fe, New Mexico. The Granillos were Spanish soldiers & bureaucrats from Mexico City and are well-known in New Mexico &
Arizona. As for Granillos in California, I have not followed any branch of the family there. My nephews wife is also a Granillo from
Globe, Arizona so there are many Granillos in Arizona. Rgds. MarcellaA!$

Celayas in Florence

Posted: 12 Apr 2001 11:06AM GMT
Edited: 9 Jul 2001 2:35AM GMT
Please send me the info on your book. I have also emailed you my connection to these Celaya. LawlessLupita@yahoo.com

Conq./Soldiers of Fortune

Posted: 12 Apr 2001 11:59AM GMT
Edited: 9 Jul 2001 2:35AM GMT
"Men who arrived after Guzman" http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index5C.htm He was from Basque Country, Spain which corresponds with your research.I don't know whether or not he was actually a "conquistador" but he was indeed among the first settlers of that region. Just because his ancestors did not originate in Spain does not mean anything. Being born in Spain, he was a native and therefore entitled to the rights of that country. As for your branch of Celayas being the first to come to Arizona, I can't really be sure. All I know is that my great great grandfather Crisanto Garcia Celaya and his wife and children came to Florence in the 1860's from Sonora. There he lived and died.

Family History

i-granillo (View posts)
Posted: 20 May 2001 10:22PM GMT
Marcella,
My name is Irma Granillo and I live in California, my fathers name is Laurentino Granillo relative of Jose Granillo; Trinidad Granillo, Tomas Granillo all of whom are from the Tigua Tribe. I am interested in the history and the locating of my family relatives. I come from a family of twelve brothers and sisters all living in California. My father Laurentino was born to Laurentino Sr. & Augustina Granillo. Augustina died giving birth to her youngest son (name unknown), Laurentino Sr. is no longer living. My father had five brothers and sister. They were all seperated during childhood due to the death of their mother and were raised by many relatives in New Mexico, Texas, Arizona and California they are now settled in North and South California. I am very interested in learning more about your family history as I am trying to locate my family tree. Looking forward to your responce.

Re: Family History IRMA GRANILLO

Beth Rowe (View posts)
Posted: 28 Aug 2001 9:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GRANILLO
Irma,
Could you please contact me direct at BRowe97@aol.com. I am doing some research on the Granillo family and I might be able to put you in touch with a cousin of yours who is also doing research on the family.
Beth

Re: Celaya Surname/History

Posted: 7 Jun 2002 12:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Edina
I am very interested in your historical review of the Celaya family.
I noticed that there is a costal town in northern Spainish Basque country named Celaya.
What I would like to know is what the exact meaning of "Cel" "Aya".
If it is of Moorish origen as you mentioned, then it is either a one or two word name.
It would be interesting to find the original Celaya's
that settled in the new world. Did they originally fight with the Portuguese in Brazil?

Dave Zelaya
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