I think my records are correct about Rachel being the daughter of John Bruce jr. and John Robins Hall was her guardian. Rachel was born circa 1799 and James H. Hall (her future husband) was born about 1801. This done from memory so don't quote dates but I think I am correct. John Bruce Sr died about one year before John Bruce Jr. Both John Bruces had only one son and Jr. had 7 daughters I believe. There are court records for the guardianship.