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Re: Johann Brandl in Atzlern Germany

JulieGammons13 — 2009-06-17 14:28:35Z

Hi there,
Joseph Brandl is my Great Grandfather as well. My grandfather was his son Alphonse Jacob Brandl who married Leona Rose O'Gara. Their daughter, Joan Marie is my mother. I am very interested in any information you might like to share.
Thank you,
Julie

Re: Wolfgang Brandl of Mulligan Township

gsebald1 — 2009-04-21 01:22:51Z

not sure if I have contacted you.
I have run down wolfgangs line in Germany 200 years.
My grandmother was wolfgangs daughter Dorthea also known as Victoria...
send me an email
gsebald@frontiernet.net

Re: anton brandl feedback (also: Weber, Bonnell, Gallagher)

Megan_Brandl — 2009-03-25 13:29:52Z

Do you know anything about DNA testing to see how everyone is possibly connected? I think they are but not sure where to start. I've connected with quite a few of my dad's cousins that live in Manitowoc. My email is brndl_mgn@yahoo.com.

Re: Brandl's in WI, IL, Bohemia, Switz.

tbrandl29 — 2009-03-23 22:42:41Z

Your Father Earl was my father Dan's oldest Brother. My father was 7, I believe, when their parents, your grand parents and my great grand parents, were killed in a car accident.

I have recently found out about alot of the relatives on my father's side that was missing.

Re: anton brandl feedback

tbrandl29 — 2009-03-23 22:33:05Z

Megan,

I am a Brandl and have a connection to the Wisconsin / Minnesota Brandl's from Bohemia and Germany. My Father was the son of Josph and Mary Brandl of Wisconsin. I have recently found out that there are approxamately 47 other cousins to my brother's and I from just my father's sibs.
I am still doing some research. Any other information I obtain I would be happy to share with you.

Surname Distribution: Germany, Austria etc.

TilmanB — 2009-03-19 15:12:23Z

Hi,

in case you haven't seen this, and especially if your family's roots were/are in Europe, here's a page that has maps for a few countries:

http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/brandl.html

Alternatively you may enter other names on top of the page and see the results below. There are links for Germany, Switzerland and Poland too on the bottom. Unfortunately in German language only, but a map doesn't need much translation to be understood. May be different with the details that are shown for each name ...

Regards
Tilman

Re: Johann Brandl in Atzlern Germany

tpsullivan87 — 2009-01-28 05:45:01Z

To jpronspies: Joseph Brandl is my Great Grandfather as well. I am grandson to his daughter Antonia Mannion, while my Mother is Kathleen Sullivan. I would like to start doing some research on the Brandl side. Any info you have to share would be great. You can email me at tpsullivan87@gmail.com My name is Tim Sullivan. Thanks.

Michael Brandl and Catherine Biel

karenkrz — 2009-01-17 01:40:01Z

Looking for information on this family mid 1800's to early 1900s in Home, Brown County, Minnesota. Thanks!

Re: Brandl in Bohemia - Seewiesen, Frischwinkl, Reichenberg

borisbob1 — 2008-10-14 20:57:52Z

I found your post very interesting, my Father's name was Johann Anton Brandl (born 30/06/1926) in Rosstal Bavaria, and his mothers name was Katharina Brandl, on his birth Certificate it says that she was a resident in Rosstal, but shows no Fathers name so I presume he was illigitimate, he talked about his Grandmother who's name was Freda who also lived in Rosstal he also talked about Ernst and Franz, I have been trying to trace this side of the family for some time now so I hope we have a conection.
Regards
Robert Brandl (UK)

Brandls from Bavaria/Bohemia (Eisenstrass) to Brazil

TilmanB — 2008-06-16 22:53:33Z

Hello,

there was a thread on the Bohemian board, where two BRANDL emigrant families were mentioned.

You'll find more details on this at
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.histreg.bohem...

Regards
Tilman

Re: Johann Brandl in Atzlern Germany

jpronspies — 2008-03-16 03:31:47Z

Marriage date of Therese Hohmann and Johann Brandl was August 13, 1871 in Neukirhen Gemany where they they lived most of their life.

Re: Johann Brandl in Atzlern Germany

htengelhardt — 2008-03-11 12:03:47Z

I have Georg BRANDL married to Theresia MARTIN on August 24, 1819.
Where did you find the second first names and the marriage location?
Are you Cousin David, with whom I have been corresponding off and on?
Susan in Texas

Re: Johann Brandl in Atzlern Germany

degloff — 2008-03-10 13:23:05Z

What are the marriage dates for your Johann and Therese Bohamann?

I have a Johann Georg Brandl marriage to Maria Theresia Martin in Passau on 24 Aug 1819.

Johann Brandl in Atzlern Germany

jpronspies — 2008-03-10 02:05:33Z

Johann married Therese Bohamann. She was from Flecken Bohemia. Are there any other desendents from Barbara, Sophi, Franziska, Therese, Josephine, Frederick nd Joseph. Joseph is my great grandfather. He lived in St. Helena, Nebraska.

Re: Brandl in Bohemia - Seewiesen, Frischwinkl, Reichenberg

psined — 2008-02-19 19:21:19Z

Hallo stally,

I know the original message is not new. i hope you will still read it.

my great grandfather was george brandl (born appr. 1785 in Seewiesen). He married Elisabeth Seidl
His son has the name George Brandl too (born appr 1810 in Seewiesen, died 03.05.1864 in Schwarzthal,Bukowina). He married Barbara Pscheidl.
my ancestors lived in the bukowina til 1940s. then they emigrated to germany.
is there any connection to yours ? maybe is your "Mathias Brandl" a brother of the "George Brandl" of me.
if yes,i hope you have any informatíon for me.

greetings
Denis Pagel,Perleberg,Germany

Re: Brandl in Bohemia - Seewiesen, Frischwinkl, Reichenberg

stally23 — 2007-11-08 16:35:47Z

Thank you for your reply.
But unfortunately i have to say, that i don´t see any conection. My Josef Brandl was sure born in 1880. His father was Ferdinand Brandl (*1840), hist father Franz Brandl (*1794)and his father Mathias Brandl (now I don´t know yet when he was born).
Sure, I don´t have complete information about tis family, but now I don´t have that your Josef Brandl (* about 1820) :-( All of these Brandl were born in Seewiesen - expect Josef Brandl who was born in Frischwinkl (near Eisenstrass).
And now I don´t have information about Brandls emigration...I still live in Czech Republic...:-)
Stally

Re: Brandl in Bohemia - Seewiesen, Frischwinkl, Reichenberg

wbrandl128 — 2007-11-08 15:21:32Z

Stally23 - I sure hope that we are somehow related to your Josef Brandl, as many of us have been searching for the link to Josef and his predecessors. Eisenstrass seems to be near Eisenstein (present day Czech town of Zelezna Ruda and the villagae formed at WWII conclusion called Bayerish Eisenstein). Many of these folks from this area (Kelnhofer's, Brandl's, etc.) emmigrated to the United States and seemed to settle near Aburndale, WI. That is my connection.

All we know about Josef is that he was born about 1820 in Austria. His son Michael Senior was born in Eisenstein 16 May 1844. Then Michael Junior, Carrie, Theresia, George G,and my Grandfather Anton came along.

Do you have a complete list of Josef's children that will confirm this Josef had a son named Michael?

William Brandl

Brandl in Bohemia - Seewiesen, Frischwinkl, Reichenberg

stally23 — 2007-11-08 11:30:18Z

Hi, I´m a descendant of Josef Brandl, who was born in Frischwinkl (near Eisenstrass) in Bohemia in 1880.

He had some siblings - Katharina (*1864 in Todlau (Datelov)), Maria (*1868 in Dorstadt(Mestiste)), Anna (*1878 in Frischwinkl), Ferdinand (*1883 in Dorstadt - died as a child), maybe there were more children.

Their parents were Ferdinand Brandl (*1840 in Seewiesen - Schuhkatchken?) and Barbara Böhm (*1843 in Todlau).

My graet-grandfather married Franziska Urban from Wölsdorf (Vlckovice)and they lived in Reicheberg (maybe in Gablonz an der Neisse - I am not sure).

They had 4 children - Frida (my grandmother), Ferdinand, Julie and Marie. All of them (expect my grandmother) were after WWII moved to Germany. My mother should have there one cousin and she should have one daughter.

Is there anyone who is related to this Brandls?

Re: Brandl's in WI, IL, Bohemia, Switzerland

2006-10-15 01:10:39Z

Hello,

I believe that the German name for the Vseruby near Eschlkam was Neumark. There is a 2nd town named Vseruby near Pilsen. Both towns appear on current maps. Wscherau bei Pilsen was the German name for the 2nd town. Is it possible that the Vseruby at the border with Eschlkam was also called Wscherau? I have jpg maps of both towns if interested. Thanks for info. Here is a link to a 1934 letter regarding Vseruby near border mentioning Neumark as German name.
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/towns/vseruby.html

Regards,
Kevin

Re: Brandl's in WI, IL, Bohemia, Switzerland

2006-10-06 12:53:17Z

Thanks for the extensive info! A new piece of Info:
 
I just discovered that the village that "originated" our family, Eschlkam in 1994 made some "sister-village" parnerships with two Czech villages right nearby --- Kdyne und Vseruby-
 
Všeruby was called Wscherau bei Pilsen in German. I recall my maternal Grandmother once telling me that my paternal family came, ahe thought, from ther (which I had always mis-heard as "Wascherau" --- which may be a Hochdeutsch form of the name anyway, as this is similar to Swissgerman, which I understand, and "Au" means something like "meadow," but many villages have that in their name in the "Suddeutschraum" (Southern Germanophone Area --- Bavaria, Austria, Switzerland).
 
So The family probably originated as German-speakers in Wscherau, and then with the troubles hopped over the border into Eschlkam.

Re: Anton Brandl's daughter

2006-09-18 12:31:45Z

Thank you so much for your help. I've been researching for a year and a half. This is so nice of you to post this. My dad could only remember his grandfather as a farmer when he was a child. I did find he was a blacksmith, but wasn't sure what else he did. Thank you.
Megan Brandl

Re: Anton Brandl's daughter

2006-09-17 21:55:50Z

I found this obituary while searching for info on the Auburndale Brandls and thought it may be what you are looking for (I'm including the whole obit in case it helps):

"Anton Brandl, 84, of Rt. 1, Manitowoc, died Tuesday morning at home.
"Funeral services will be at 10:30 a. m. Friday at St. Joseph Catholic Church, Silverlake. The Rev. Julian C. Resch, O. Praem. will officiate and burial will be in the church cemetery. Mr. Brandl was born July 29, 1887, at Maplewood, Door County, son of the late Joseph and Catherine Weber Brandl. He married Margaret Bonnell Oct. 7, 1919, at Antigo. His wife preceded him in death May 6, 1965. He was a blacksmith by trade and was last employed by the McMullen and Pitz Construction Co. of Manitowoc. Mr. Brandl was a member of the Catholic Order of Foresters and the St. Joseph Holy Name Society.
"Survivors incude three sons, James of San Francisco, Geradr f Manitowoc, and Howard of Trenton, N. J.; four daughters, Miss Virginia of West Allis, Miss Lorraine of Rt. 1, Manitowoc, Mrs. Richard (Germaine) Bauer of Rt. 5, Manitowoc, and Mrs. Marlyn (Margaret) Evenson of Rt. 1, Valders; three sisters, Mrs. Magdalene and Miss Frances Brandl of Chicago and Sister M. Theothane of Bay Settlement, De Pere; 19 grandchildren, and two great grandchildren. A brother and five sisters preceded him in death.
"Friends may call at the funeral home after 3 p. m. Thursday where a Wake service will be held at 7:30 p. m. "
Manitowoc Herald Times, 1971-08-31

Theresa Brandl

2006-08-12 00:34:00Z

Theresa Brandl was my husband's grandmother. She came to the USA with her parents Franz and Barbara Brandl aproximately 1878. She married Henry Vander Linden in Appleton, Wisconsin. She and her parents supposedly came from Vienna, Austria. That is just about all we know about her family. Any inomation would be appreciated.

Re: Brandl in Bohemia

2006-06-11 20:40:23Z

Heidi, thanks to a cousin I can get get back a little bit in the Christl line: The line that they found starts with Andreas who was born in Dreyhauser in 1779 and died in 1839 in Unterreichenau, Bohemia. he was married to Maria Rozina Bayerova. My line comes from his oldest son Johan Wenzel Christl born 1802. My Anton was born in 1831. I do not know of any siblings of his. He married Maria Anna Seidl date unknown but their first child, my grandmother, was born in December of 1866. They came to America and settled in the Appleton, Wisconsin area in 1867. Most of the Christl's in the Appleton area are from my grandmother's cousin Andrew's family. Andrew's line was from a younger brother of my grandmother's grandfather. They had come over to America a few years earlier.

Baptism records for my grandmother and her mother are from Jannesen, Bohemia.

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

2006-04-21 01:04:50Z

Maria,
I would be interested in the information you have on Joseph Brandl. Wolfgang Brandl's son George was married to my great great aunt, Anna Braun. I also have a connection to the Staudinger's thru George and Mary Grall Staudinger's son, Charles, married to my great aunt, Clara Hill.
Thanks, Donna

Re: Brandl from Satu Mare

2006-04-15 09:09:05Z

Hello Josh,

I can see from Elis Island that your Joseph Brandl was going to his father in McKee's Rock PA (he arrived April 23, 1911). So, you already know his fathers name...

Of what religion was this family? (that would determine in which church or synagogue records the births would be recorded).

Beth Long

Re: Brandl in Zenching ,Bavaria ,Germany

swenson5570 — 2007-07-31 03:36:44Z

I AM ALSO SEARCHING THE BRANDELS WHO LANDED IN OCONTO ,WI.

MY WIFE'S GRANDMOTHER WAS ANNA BRANDEL DAUGTHER OF ANTONE BRANDEL. SHE WAS MARRIED IN OCONTO,WI 1885 TO LEONARD KRAUS.

I CAN NOT FIND A DEATH NOTICE OF ANTON AND HIS WIFE, CATHERINE HART.

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

D_Mueller — 2006-10-27 00:51:27Z

I am aware of another child of Michael Brandl and Mary Pfeffer. She is Anna Brandl, married to Joseph Spaeth. They lived in the Town of Newton and are buried at St. Joseph's Cemetery in Alverno. I have the information from her death record that gives her date of death as 4/12/1903 and 83 yrs old at the time of death. Place of birth is only listed as Bavaria.

Is anyone familiar with a Theresa Brandl who immigrated about 1854, married Peter Braun and lived in the Town of Liberty? I believe her father was Wolfgang Brandl (Brandel) and had a sister Barbara, married to Anton Wimmer. Theresa's place of birth on the census is Bohemia and I know that Peter came from Friedrichstal which was in Bohemia. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Donna

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon (Eschlkam?), Bavaria, Germany to WI

D_Mueller — 2006-10-27 00:51:27Z

I am quite sure the town referred to in the Naturalization papers for Wolfgang should be Eschlkam. It is located in Bavaria a few miles from the Bohemian/Czech border and also is the place of birth of my Hastreiter ancestors. In the Town of Cato, the Hastreiters, Brandls, Staudingers were all neighbors and related in various ways.
Donna Hastreiter Mueller

Re: anton brandl feedback

D_Mueller — 2006-10-27 00:51:27Z

Hi Megan,
The following is from the 1930 census, Town of Manitowoc Rapids in Manitowoc Co.

Anton Brandl Manitowoc Rapids, Manitowoc, WI abt 1888 Wisconsin Head
Margaret Brandl Manitowoc Rapids, Manitowoc, WI abt 1893 Wife
Virginia Brandl Manitowoc Rapids, Manitowoc, WI abt 1922 Daughter
Loraine Brandl Manitowoc Rapids, Manitowoc, WI abt 1923 Daughter
Germaine Brand Manitowoc Rapids, Manitowoc, WI abt 1924 Daughter
James Brandl Manitowoc Rapids, Manitowoc, WI abt 1925 Son
Gerald Brandl Manitowoc Rapids, Manitowoc, WI abt 1929 Son

Hope this helps. Donna

Re: Brandl in Bohemia

sonofmillerman — 2006-11-16 22:00:44Z

I have Haubners from Neulosimthal,Tachua district
now part of Czech Republic

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

meganbrandl — 2006-03-23 18:02:31Z

Can you tell me anything more about Charles brother Anton who was in Manitowoc? I do believe he was my great grandfather.Thanks

Brandl's of wisconsin

meganbrandl — 2006-03-23 18:02:31Z

So far I have been confused about Anton (my great grandfather) being born and living in Manitowoc and not moving around, as the rest of our family thought. Now I checked out the 1920 census page by page and discovered Anton and Margarite in the Door County, Wis census. They were in the township of Brussels, south. He was listed as a blacksmith with his own shop. None of their children were born yet. I now believe that Charles (listed in Nasewaupee Township)(married to Barbara Brandl) could be Anton's brother. In the same census was Joseph 77 years old living in Sturgeon Bay, Wis. a little north of Nasewaupe, he was living with his daughter Francis 22. I believe this is Charles father. He is the same age. I came to this conclusion becasue I was researching any family with the Anton name born in this country. Anton was born in 1887 Wisconsin, he died in 1971 Manitowoc. His wife Margarite was born 1891/93 in Wis. and died in 1965 Wis.
So far I have some of Charles siblings names. His two sisters were nuns and Anton had a daughter who was a nun. Could she have chosen to be this because her aunts were an influence on her life?
I'll check the 1910 and 1900 census as well to verify (my) Anton and Charles are siblings.

Re: Brandls in Brazil

htengelhardt — 2007-04-14 23:44:01Z

I have a Joseph Brandl, born in 1786, died in 1830, parents Georg Brandl and Apollania Strasser. Is this your Joseph?

Re: Brandls in Brazil

fendrique — 2007-04-14 17:48:20Z

I was born in this city, and I'm a descendant of this Joseph Brandl. This family came to Brazil from Eisenstrass, close to the bavarian border. I also research the Zipperer family, which came to São Bento from Flecken, Bohemia.

Henrique Fendrich
Curitiba - Brazi

Re: Brandls in Brazil

fendrique — 2007-04-15 00:40:27Z

I think not.. my Joseph Brandl was born around 1833 in Eisenstrass, married to Anna Schweinfurter, son of Michael Brandl and Margareth Mundl. Is this Joseph you mentioned from that region? Maybe there's a relation.

Henrique Fendrich
Curitiba - Brazil

Re: Brandl's from Wisconsin

wbrandl128 — 2007-09-04 20:32:03Z

Donna - Thanks for the info. Theresia is the same I think as Theresa, as she would have been my Great Grandfather Michael Sr.'s wife. His father was Joseph Brandl born abt. 1820. Theresia's parents were George Schreiner and Theresa Weiner, although I don't have any dates or birthplaces for them.

Much of what I have learned comes from Marsha Brandl who's great grandfather was also Michael Jr., so obviously you two are more closely related. Don't know anything about the others that you mentioned, but if you find more in the St. Mary's records please share it with me.

Finally yes, the other Donna Brandl is indeed Donna Crotteau from Rudolph, and is my wife of almost 40 years. We lived in Wis. Rapids for a long time, then Wausau and now in Charlottesville, VA.

Re: Brandl's from Wisconsin

wbrandl128 — 2007-08-22 12:22:29Z

My grandfather was Anton Brandl, son of Michael Sr., son of Joseph from Auburndale. My father was Martin and I am William. You can find my family tree posted on ancestry.com.

I am also looking for more information about Joseph, such as wife's name, dates of birth, death, etc., and of course the lineage before Joseph.

Theresia Schreiner is buried in the old Catholic Cemetary past the High School in Auburndale. The grave marker is quite worn as she died in 1887, only 5 years after coming to the states. My daughter and I made an etching of it this past summer and it is mostly in German. Haven't yet made any attempt at translating. My grandfather never really knew his mother as he was an infant when they came to America.

Theresia's parents were George and Theresia Weiner, but I have no birth or death dates on them. Would like more info if you have it.

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Minnesota

luvgreen17 — 2006-09-21 08:57:37Z

Hi, i know u wrote this message a few years ago but i was just lookin at the old ones. Umm i noticed on ur list of names. I am a student at the high school in New Ulm, MN and im trying to track down the history. My greatgreat grandfather is Wolfgang Brandl. The same wolfgang on your list from mulligan township. I have a little info about him. Is there anymore about him you know. Let me know if there is anything u would like to know.

Brandl's from Wisconsin

sew4kicks — 2007-08-21 22:48:54Z

Looking for relatives of John and Anna (Dillinger)Brandl, Milladore and Auburndale WI area (1857-1937) John came to USA in 1882 from Austria.

Also I am related to Michael Sr. Brandl son of Josef Brandl. Michael was born in Zelezna Ruda, Austria. Michael married Theresia Schreiner.

I have Brandl Relatives on both sides of my Family. Would Appreciate any help I can get.

Re: Brandl's from Wisconsin

sew4kicks — 2007-09-04 18:41:13Z

We also made a trip out to the Pioneer's of St. Mary's Cemetery on Monday. Found Theresa Brandl' s Stone. There is a plaque there of all the people and there are a few more Brandl's. There is a Theresia Brandl and a Theresa Brandl (Schreiner), which would be Michael Sr. wife. The other one I am woundering if it could be Michael SR. daughter, because she married a Joseph Baierl, and there is his name listed also. There is a Emma Brandl, she could be the Emma of Michael Jr., as in my records she only lived a year.) and a Wilhelmina Brandl also. Also a Ignatius and Michael Schreiner, maybe brothers of Theresa?

I talked to a lady at St. Mary's Church that works in the office there and she said I could come out any time and look through the records. So I am looking to schedule a day to do this and see if I can find out any more information.

Now to explain how we are related Your Grandpa Anton is a brother to Michael Jr? Michael JR would have been my Grandpa Edwards dad. Does this make sense?

Also just out of Curiousity did your wife live out in Rudolph WI for a time when she was growing up? There was Donna Crotteau living up the road from my parents when I was growing up and she married a Brandl.

Donna (Brandl) Kickland

Re: Brandl's from Wisconsin

sew4kicks — 2007-08-22 21:54:22Z

The information I have found on Joseph Brandl is this:

Wife: Theresa Kercher? she was born in Austria
Born Abt. 1820 in Austria

Two children were listed Michael Sr and Anton (Born abt. 1850)

I found this on the internet on www.familytreemaker.genealogy.com

Haven't found any more on this yet to verify

Re: Brandl in Bohemia

dundeemayer1 — 2006-06-11 02:01:46Z

My family tree contains the following Christls, who resided in Kornelowka, (Nowe Siolo) Galicia. They came from Galtenhof, Bohemia. My family came from Tachau, in Bohemia and settled in Machliniec, Galicia, about two kilometers from Nowe Siolo.

Lorenz Christl 1780 - 1861, married to Marianna Felbinger.
Chidren: Michael 1807 - 1873
Franz 1810 -1884
Georg 1814 - 1866
Josef 1819 - ?
Eva 1820 - 1892
Elisabeth 1831 - ?

Michael Christl married Anna Maria Seitz and she gave birth to Eva Christl in November of 1837.

Eva married Peter Michael Haubner. Their daughter Agnes is my Great Grandmother. She married Bartholomaus Majer.

I just returned from three days in the former Galicia, and did find two headstones in the Machliniec cemetery with the Christl name:

Maria Christl 1888 - 1918, and Lorenz Christl 1908.

Re: Brandls in Brazil

wbrandl1 — 2007-04-15 15:44:03Z

We have a Joseph Brandl, born about 1820 in Eisenstein, AU (today known as Zelezna Ruda, CZ). Eisenstein is right on the German border. I do not know who Joseph was married to, but his son Michael born 16 May 1844, was my Grandfather Anton's Father.

Board & List changes

TilmanB — 2007-01-10 11:32:24Z

Hello,

those of you who read the BRANDL mailing list will notice that messages going & coming through to the list from the message board are now showing the gateway address as the sender and NOT the address or name of the person who posted the message on the board.

This is due to upgrades made to the board system. The proper course of action has always been to click the
link in the gateway post and reply on the board. Now this method of replying has become mandatory as there is no way to reply via email to the board poster. Any replies you wish to make MUST be posted here on this board.

Replying to only the LIST will NOT reach the list or the board poster and clicking REPLY to the gateway post will result in the gateway address bouncing as it is not a valid address for receiving mail.

All subscribers to and readers of the BRANDL list - please be aware of these changes.

Regards
Tilman Brandl

Re: Theresa Brandl

TilmanB — 2006-09-21 08:55:28Z

searching for Brandls isn't easy, that name it much too common in some regions. The Austrian phone directory at www.herold.at as of today has 278 Brandl entries, there must be about 1800 in Austria altogether.

To make it short - you'll need more information like a date of birth, marriage, etc. and/or a specific location in Vienna to find these people.

Look at http://www.magwien.gv.at/english/history/municipalarchiv/anc... for details an searching in Vienna.

Tilman

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

meganbrandl1 — 2006-11-17 22:59:43Z

My great grandfather Anton Brandl was born July 29, 1887 in Wisconsin and he died August 1971 in Manitowoc. He was in the 1920 census in another county and listed as a blacksmith with his own shop after that I guess he moved to Manitowoc and had changed to farming. He did have his own farm and my father recalls visiting it as a child. But he can't recall much else.
Anton's wife was Margrate Bonnell. I can't find anything about her out. She was born in 1891 and died in 1965. I did find out where they are buried. They had a few children : Virginia, Loraine, Germaine, Gerold, James, and my grandfather Howard Joseph. My grandfather is buried in Oregon, that's all I know. I'm not familiar with Wisconsin and it's made everything alittle harder trying to locate them.

anton brandl

meganbrandl1 — 2006-11-17 22:59:43Z

I'm looking for Anton Brandl born in 1887 in Manitowoc, Wis. I know there were three Antons. He married Margaret Bonnell. They had Germaine, Gerald, James, Virginia, Lorraine, and my grandfather Howard Joseph. They were born in the 20's. Anton died in 1971. I'm having a hard time finding things because I'm not familar with Wisconsin. Anton had a farm and I do have a few pictures of him, if anyone might recognize him. Please contact me with any info.
thank you.

anton brandl feedback

meganbrandl1 — 2006-11-17 22:59:43Z

Thank you for your emails! I didn't expect a reply so soon. To answer a few questions 1.My grandfather is Howard Joseph Brandl born in 1928? in Manitowoc, Wis. he died in Salem, Oregon and was separated from my grandmother Dolores Gwendolyn (maiden name Moore) Brandl since my dad was a child. He was in the army for at least 20yrs. I do have a picture of him, his brother James and mygreat-grandfather Anton at their farm in Wis. I do know that Anton (born July 29, 1887 in Manitowoc) married Margaret Bonnell who was the mother of Howard Joseph and his siblings because my father has the birth certificate. I did find a cemetary online that has a Margaret Brandl born 1893, Anton Brandl born 1887. I'm sure this is the same people because it;s a Catholic cemetary and the only one I found with their names listed with the right dates. I can't find info on Margaret Bonnell expect on the Bonnell message board listed someone named Margaret Lucille Bonnell who was possibley native american and adopted by the Bonnells. I don't know if it;s the same person. No one in my fathers family has had contact with the Brandl's of wisconsin in atleast 40 years. I don't know if my great aunt's are alive but they were Lorraine and Virginia a schoolteacher in Milwaukee and a nun in wis. They would be in their 80's by now.
2. As far as I know from ssdeath info Anton was born and died in Manitowoc. Where I don't know, because I'm from the east coast, but I'm still checking things out.
3. I don't know Anton's parents names. Unless someone comes up with a paper hidden away.
4.yes i did check the 1880 census, but I'm not sure who i'm
looking for , (Anton's parents)yet.

Thank you everyone, I'm greatful for your help, it really means alot to know about by Brandl family and I will keep looking even if I have to check each Brandl family from 1800's wisconsin to present.

Megan Brandl

anton brandl 1930census info.

meganbrandl1 — 2006-11-17 22:59:43Z

Thank you Donna! I wasn't sure which town in Manitowoc they were in, but now I know where to search.

Megan Brandl

Re: Brandl's of wisconsin

meganbrandl1 — 2006-11-17 22:59:43Z

Hi thanks for the offer of help. I'm not sure which order my grandfather's sister belonged to or the aunt. I know that my grandfather's sisters where located in Milwaukee and Manitowoc. I checked the phone book and there are still 1 person alive and the same age as they are I'm debating on whether to call and see if it could be them or not. They were born in 1922 and 1923 and their aunt would be born around 1887 give or take 5 years.
Thank you.
Megan Brandl

Anton Brandl's daughter

meganbrandl1 — 2006-11-17 22:59:43Z

I'm not sure which order Anton's daughter belonged to, but I know one daughter lived in Milwaukee and the other around Manitowoc the town. One daugher was Virginia and the other daughter was Lorraine. They were born in 1921 and 22. I don't know if they are still alive. I know there are two people with the same name and age as they are in the white pages. If you could help find the order they were in I would appreciate it.
Thanks.
Megan

Re: Brandl in Zenching ,Bavaria ,Germany

mlehaag28 — 2007-07-30 19:25:11Z

hello, my gr-grandfather is Wolfgang Brandl of Brown county. i dont know much about there blood line through germany but i do know that they left because of religous purposes. Wolfgang - Nov. 5, 1845- Sept. 1916. and his Wife Franziska - Mar. 16, 1847- Nov. 30, 1931. Their grave is located in a small town at Leavenworth's Catholic Church of the Japenesse Martrs. Along with it you will find my grandfather Joseph Brandl and my two uncles. I mighte be able to help you, or you could help me. I am also wondering if we are related? Or as to why you are researching this family. thank you

Wolfgang Brandl of Mulligan Township

mlehaag28 — 2007-07-25 18:31:59Z

Hey my name is Emily Haag. My mom is Janice (Brandl) Haag. She was one of the comfrey Brandl triplets. Her father was Joseph Brandl. His father was Wolfgang Brandl. That would make Wolfgang my gr-gr-grandfather. I was looking on here, and it appears that many people are looking for info about him. Im not sure how much i have, but i can try. Any gquestions about him, just reply and ill do the best i can to answer them. Thanks

Re: Brandl from Satu Mare

2005-11-21 06:39:19Z

Hi Josh,
I am sorry to say I haven't done much to find out about my family. At one stage - right after I migrated to Australia and did not speak the language - I thought let's find my relatives wherever they are. That's how I joined the Brandl-site. I have been in Satu Mare or Szatmarnemeti many times and all I can tell you is that it would be very difficult, if possible at all, to find prior 1900 data from Romania over the internet. I do not even know if I had many relatives in Transylvania. When I was there I tried to find something I could start with but without any success. Since Communism collapsed it might be better.
All best
Andras

Re: Brandl from Satu Mare

2005-11-21 05:44:07Z

Hello Andras -

How unique - I have to wonder when your relatives were born near Transylvania and how you have found records of birth prior to 1900 in Romania? Also, would you happen to have a large history of Brandls in Romania? Thanks,

Josh

Re: Brandl from Satu Mare

2005-11-20 22:53:30Z

There is very little I know about Hungarian Brandls, apart from the fact that I am one. The Brandls I know were Jewish, living in Western Hungary (Zala and Vas county). As we know the Jews living outside of Budapest had a very bad survival rate. Most of them were killed by Hungarian or German fascists or deported to death camps. Before WWII my family was a big one, some relatives living in Transylvania as well.

Brandl from Satu Mare

2005-11-19 23:23:55Z

Born in 1888 Satu Mare, the genealogy of this man is a mystery. If anyone has any information about Romanian or Hungarian Brandls, researching birth records, or the like - please feel free to email me with your solutions to this enigmatic man.

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

2005-10-20 22:25:15Z

Hi Megan;
Bingo!!!!!!!! I am related to you. If you would e-mail your address I will send copies of the information that I have. Many family members are not giving me the information that I need but still, I have a lot of background for you.
Welcome to the family.
Jan Brady Coisman Brandl

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

2005-10-20 22:18:48Z

Dear Oliver;
I think that we could be very far related. I will have to check a disk that I have to be sure. Anton Brandl that I have as an ancestor was born in Nasawaupee Township in 1887 and married Margaret Bonnell from Antigo.
If I can find other information, I will e-mail you.
Good luck and happy ancestering.

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

2005-10-10 21:52:18Z

my wifes grandmother was Anna Brandle and the daugther of Anton. She was born in1866 in Manitowoc according to the the obit. She married a LEONARD KRAUS IN ocnto, wi in 1885. I can't find a death notice or anything else. There were 3 Antone Brandels I am told.

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

2005-09-22 22:07:19Z

I am looking for information on an Antone Brandel from the Manitowoc, Wi area. His daugther Anna is my wifes grand mother. She married a Leo or Leonard Kraus in Oconto, Wi.
in 1885, they moved to Menominee County, michigan Later
and she died there.

Willibald & Emma BRANDL fam, Konigsberg, Bohemia/ Austria

2005-09-11 12:14:58Z

Searching for any info on the Willibald BRANDL & wife Emma nee ? Figer ?, from Konigsberg, Bohemia, Austo- Germany. Both born abt 1873 Konigsberg, Bohemia, Germany. Emma's mother listed as "Margarethe FIGER" (?) of Konigsberg.
The family came to USA 1908; Willibald first in April 1908, then Emma & their 3 children in Sept 1908, thru Ellis Island Passenger recs.
The three BRANDL children: Rolland b 1898; Waldemar (Wally) 1900; Erika ("Sandy") b 1902. They traveled to Defiance OHIO, to 414 Hopkins St. possibly to a relative?
Only Emma, Waldemar (Wally) & Erika appear in the 1920 census in Suitland, Maryland. ( Willibald and Rolland BRANDL may have died between 1910 & 1920, where? Ohio? Maryland?) Willibald thought to have been a beer "brewer".
Later the BRANDL family lived in Washington DC for years, then moved to Allentown/Oxen Hill area, Prince Georges Co, MD. Emma Figer BRANDL died in Prince George's Co MD, was still alive in 1962, she died long after that, in her late 90's.
Waldemar BRANDL married "Romaine" abt 1938; Erika aka "Sandy" BRANDL never married. Waldemar & Romaine Brandl died in Lecanto, Citrus Co FL, in 1996 & 2002, & are buried there.
ANy help on my ancestors will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kathleen von Hozza < khozza@cfl.rr.com >

Re: Brandl's in WI, IL, Bohemia, Switz.

2005-09-01 19:12:25Z

Hi LB!
Thanks for the info --- I knew almost none of it, my "closer" cousin researching this hasn't contacted me yet --- but since my father Earl B. Brandl was the eldest of 13, his father Joseph Wolfgang Brandl the eldest of 17 and many of my uncles and aunts had around 6 kids, I have more than 100 first cousins alone. Only one sister, though, Marcia Brandl Willhite. Check out my website sometime (I'm a fine artist) www.markstaffbrandl.com/ I'd love to hear more about other Brandls.

Re: Brandl's of wisconsin

2005-08-21 00:12:37Z

Megan, you wrote, "So far I have some of Charles siblings names. His two sisters were nuns and Anton had a daughter who was a nun. Could she have chosen to be this because her aunts were an influence on her life?""

It is possible that your Anton's daughter became a nun because of her aunts' influence. If you know what religious order or orders they belonged to, you could find the address of the motherhouse(s) and write for information on the women.

If you would like to pursue this avenue of research but aren't sure where to write or what to write, I'll be happy to lend a hand.

Regards,

Miriam Dapra

Brandl - Brandel - Brendel

2004-10-31 06:24:58Z

Can anyone tell me if the surnames of Brandl, Brandle, Brandel, Brendel are all one in the same? My ancestors used all the above spellings yet they were all related.
Thank you. Please e-mail me at stormaz2@hotmail.com

Re: genealogie jevdjenijevitch - brandl

2005-05-06 03:04:08Z

alguie de apellido brandl en castellano

Re: Brandl from Munich, Germany

2005-05-06 02:59:53Z

deseo contactarme con BRANDL ,ALGUIEN.POR FAVOR

Re: Brandl - Brandel - Brendel

2004-11-08 14:38:55Z

reply of thanks
Thank you Tillman for that explaination. I does help.

Re: Brandl in Bohemia

2004-11-03 01:44:02Z

Heidi,

Thank you for replying to my query. I only have information on my gr-grandfather's family. As far back as I go is 1779 for my gr-grandfather's grandfather. This is how the line goes that I have:
Andreas Christl (1779-1839)
Johan Wenzel Christl (1802-?)
Anton Christl (1831-1898)
Theresa Christl Kuenzl (1866-1940)

Anton and his wife Maria Anna came to US in 1867. It seems that his father and grandfather were from Dreyhauser. I have the names of his father and grandfather's siblings, but know nothing at all about their descendents.

Don't know if this is of any help or not.

Marge

Bavarian Brandls

a131313 — 2005-01-30 13:55:17Z

In the book "Declaration of Intent to Become a Citizen, Dubuque County, Iowa". Ferdinand Brandl signed a declaration of intent to become a citizen on Oct 20, 1891. Further, he was 27 years old at the time he signed, he was "Bavarian" and landed in this country 03 Oct 1888.

Re: Brandl in Bohemia

marchand165 — 2004-11-02 16:56:02Z

Dear Marge,

My grandfather, born 1890 was also Anton Christl, however he was born in Nowe Siolo, Galacia (Austria) and I was trying to learn where his parents, grandparents may have come from in Germany (Bohemia). Are you aware whether if there were any Christl family members who headed east in the early 1800s to Galacia. My grandfather eventually did emigrate to US and settled in Chicago briefly then became a very successful farmer and landowner in Michigan.

I will check with my father on your inquiry from 2001. I do believe there are Christl's in Wisconsin but, I thought they were my grandfather's brothers line.

Theresia Brandl

heathertcarter1 — 2005-09-22 18:54:52Z

I would like to ask if anyone has information on THERESIA BRANDL (also spelled Theres or Theresa). Her married name was THERESIA HAINDL and she also had the name of THERESIA JORG (two dots over the o). possibly she remarried after her husbands death?
She was born 10-11-1843 and died 11-26-1904 in All Saints Hospital Breslau, Germany. She had three sons (at least) name unknown born 9-2-1877, William Jr. born 1-18-1881, and Otto born 8-3-1888, I believe all in Munich.
Theresia's husband was William Haindl a carpenter born 6-8-1849 and died 7-19-1892 in Munich.

If anyone has information or ideas please contact me. Thanks!!!
Heather Carter
heathertcarter@yahoo.com
and by the way, you can disregard my previous message which gives different information- I found out it was not accurate! Her name is Theresia not Maria.

Parents of Michael Brandl b. 1828 in Lam, Bavaria

ccoffin192 — 2005-09-22 18:51:06Z

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

mchisel — 2006-03-20 12:31:42Z

I would like to exchange information with descendants of Wolfgang Brandl & Catherine Staudinger who lived in Manitowoc Co. I have posted my research at:

http://home.comcast.net/~jschisel/GStaudinger.htm

The Staudinger family and the Joseph Brandl travelled together on the same ship in 1869 and they all settled in Cato Township.

Re: Brandl from Munich, Germany

@@tilman.brandl@tplus.at — 2005-05-13 16:02:52Z

Hello Andi,

thanks for dropping by!

If I'm not mistaken, you are the first of about 450 Brandls from Munich who found his way to this board. We are still waiting for the rest ;-)

We are looking forward to some information about your Brandl ancestry - if you ever feel like posting some of it here. It might help others finding their roots.

Best regards to you and to Munich!

Tilman

Hallo Andi,

nett dass du vorbeischaust. Du bist - wenn ich nicht irre - der erste von ca. 450 Muenchner Brandls, der den Weg hierher fand.

Wenn du irgendwann Lust hast Infos zu deinen Brandl Vorfahren hier zu posten, wuerde es uns freuen. Vielleicht hilft es ja anderen, ihre Wurzeln zu finden.

Schoene Gruesse an Dich und an Muenchen!

Tilman

Brandl resources site - latest update

@@tilman.brandl@tplus.at — 2005-05-13 16:02:52Z

Hello,

our resources site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/ hasn't changed much these last months. Only that some of you may have noticed that we have added some links to the collection of homepages of fellow researchers - those with an interest in their Brandl line and others too.

These last days I have added a few more links together with a new 'Picture from the past', which this time has a rather personal touch regarding your humble board administrator ; ))

Some of the things added are:
* A publication detailing the questionnaires and specific instructions for the US censuses 1790-2000. Can be read online and also downloaded (*.pdf document).
* Links to a Czech and also a Slovak online phone directory. Especially the Czech book may come handy for some of us, since several of our Brandl ancestors did live in what was back then and still is today Bohemia.
* Latin dictionaries and word lists together with other links, also offering some help with Latin grammar.
* Our collection of free resources http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/freel... has gotten a few additions. A survey of (mostly) free email services in case you need a new email address some day. And - of much more importance - a free and powerful backup program.

We will continue the updating of our resources site in the future. If any of you out there has ideas on what might be of interest and helpful for our Brandl research, or if you even have a ready made page - please let me know, I'll do my best to incorporate it.

Best wishes to you all

Tilman

Re: genealogie jevdjenijevitch - brandl

@@tilman.brandl@tplus.at — 2005-05-13 16:02:52Z

Hello Ruddy,

I hope you do read English (how about German?), since my French is not sufficient for this:

I'm guessing that you want to find out about Nadia's ancestry (father, grandfather, and back ...)?

You may try contacting the archives there, especially

Archives of the Bishopric Maribor/Škofijski arhiv Maribor
Koroska cesta 1
SLO-2000 Maribor
Tel. +00386 02 251 15 42

Find other addresses and hints here:
http://www.ihff.at/IHFF_Sloweniene.htm

LDS as far as I know have only microfilmed records of the Austrian miltary back then, so will not be of any help.

Let us know if you need more, or if you have difficulties understanding all this.

Tilman
P.S.: This time I made that mistake and answered via the list. Where you probably had no chance to see this. Sorry.

Re: genealogie jevdjenijevitch - brandl

@@tilman.brandl@tplus.at — 2005-05-13 16:02:52Z

Michel,

>> I phoned the archives but did not get anything from them.
Do you know anything on her?? <<

Unfortunately, no. I haven't done any kind of research there til now. Though perhaps I should - a huge part of my maternal family was from the Maribor area, and lived there and around Cilli/Celje till before WW I - those were not Brandls but named Kartin and Wenedikter.

Have you had contact with Ruddy? I have no idea whether my reply was of any use for him or not. Your experience with the archives seems an indication that this may not have helped?

Regards

Tilman

Brandl from Eisenstrasse

fendrique1 — 2004-12-29 12:56:13Z

Hi, does anyone have informations about the Brandl surname in Eisenstrasse? My ancestor called Joseph Brandl came from there to Brazil in 1874, together his wife Anna Schweinfurter and their children named Catharina e Joseph.

Any reply will be welcome.

Henrique
São Bento do Sul - SC
Brazil

Re: Brandl/Brandle from Bavaria

2005-09-22 22:15:46Z

Hello,

i think the name of this town means Koetzting, it´s in lowerbavaria, near Viechtach.

I´m also searching for some Brandl´s in the area of Neunussberg (now: Viechtach)

Eve

Re: Koetzting

TilmanB — 2005-09-22 22:13:55Z

Hi Eve,

that whole site http://home.t-online.de/home/Clemens.Pongratz/ has a lot of interesting stuff regarding the old town of Kötzing (Koetzing) and her inhabitants from the early 1600s up to the early 20th century.

For example there are people listed at http://home.t-online.de/home/Clemens.Pongratz/navoko.htm named Branbl, Brändl, Prandl, Prandtl, Prandtner, Pranntl, Prant or Präntl. For anybody with known or also suspected ancestry in this Bavarian town there's a pretty good chence to find him or her (Bill, are you listening?)

Thanks, Eve for pointing that place out for us

Tilman

Re: Brandl from Satu Mare

TilmanB — 2005-11-20 11:35:14Z

Hello,

Brandl, born in 1888, Satu Mare, is probably all the details you've got on him ? If there's more, like whether, when, and where to he emigrated, it could possibly help others adding any ideas ...

As I can see, you have already posted to the locality boards. Another idea would be trying Kuijsten's Navigator at http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ There you'll maybe find other people researching that name and region. As there's no option for Romania, I would probably try the International setting.

Good luck
Tilman

Re: Willibald & Emma BRANDL fam, Konigsberg, Bohemia/ Austria

TilmanB — 2005-09-11 12:36:39Z

Hi Kathleen,

there's possibly a problem with your location, unless you know for sure which place this exactly was:

There are were several different Konigsberg or Königsberg (Koenigsberg with umlaut o = oe). Some in old Bohemia = today's Czech Republic. Have a look at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/LocTown.asp yourself and search for instance for Konigsberg in the Czech Republic. Then there was of course also the old Prussian Koenigsberg which today is a Russian exclave, but I guess this isn't what you may have in mind.

Another problem or maybe incosistency is with the wording "Austo- Germany" and also "Bohemia, Germany"

Bohemia up till the end of WW I was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, so 'Austro' would be correct, but not 'Germany' . The problem may stem from the 2 main ethnicities living in Bohemia back then, namely Czechs and Germans (the latter ending with WWII after the expulsion of the remaining Germans there).

"Bohemia, Germany" could be a reference to the 'German-Bohemian' inhabitants or 'Boehmendeutsche', those who spoke German and culturally felt themselves to be German (but basically also Bohemians or possibly Austrians). Anyway, their nationality would *not* have been German during the relevant timeframe.

I would suggest posting your query to other boards too, like for instance

* Austria-Hungary
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.ceeuro...

* Bohemia
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=l...

and possibly also

* Czech Republic
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.ceeuro...

A warning: Rootsweb administration does *not* like to see postings to several boards being all exactly the same, this is considered being spam; so bringing some variation into the wording might be a good move ;-)

Wish you all the luck
Tilman

1920 US census 3 days free

TilmanB — 2005-06-15 09:35:15Z

Hello,

Jan Ammann has mentioned this special promotion on the AUSTRIAN-SURNAMES list:

" ...You may search the complete US 1920 census index and access the full images for 3 days totally free. No charge, no credit card required, no subscription to buy! ..." (they appear to ask for your name and email address)

http://www.censusfinder.com/1920-census-free.htm

I haven't tried it myself, so don't endorse this, can't give you any guarantees. But it's probably worth checking out.

Regards
Tilman

Re: Brandl - Brandel - Brendel

TilmanB — 2004-11-08 13:54:41Z

Hello Rita,

I don't have an ultimate & fully satisfying answer, only an idea:

My ancestors' name was spelled Praentl, Prantl, Brandl from the mid 1600s till today. From my understanding this

1. may reflect changes of the (spoken) German language through centuries and eras - certainly in my case.

2. And then of course, spelling alternatives are a result of earlier illiterate times. Names at that time had to be written phonetically, no other options. This has brought forth lots of alternative spellings.

3. Although this didn't happen to my own Brandl surname, the spelling could and did change on emigration. Due to different phonetics ... For instance on immigration to the US or other English-speaking countries, the surname Brandl read out aloud could easily become Brendl or Brendel in writing.

Since your people with different spellings of their names are all related (Brandl-related, I suppose?), there's your proof: They "are all one and the same", I guess.

Maybe others will come up with more ideas on this.

Tilman

Re: Ludwig Brandl?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,

personally I don't have any known links to Bavarian Brandls.

However, the timeframe you mentioned isn't that far back, you should therfore be able to find some information on the whererabouts and relatives of Ludwig BRANDL. Have you already tried locating parish records or maybe even LDS microfilmed records from that area? I doubt that there will be any (civilian) data in the record section of the respective townhalls, because as I believe registrations there started years later only (if I'm wrong, I'll hopefully be corrected).

Regards

Tilman

Re: Ludwig Brandl?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Stan,

> Have you ever looked at these tapes?

No, unfortunately not ;-(

This means that I can't help you with any own first hand experience. Difficult to find out which roll to order - a search on the LDS website for Landsberg at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermain... shows even 4 rools of film! Just have a look at that place if you haven't yet, it gives some more details re. which roll keeps which records.

Maybe also they can help you at your nearest FHC? From what I know, ordering these films isn't really expensive anyhow.

Hope this helps a little bit

Regards

Tilman

Re: Ludwig Brandl?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Stan,

sounds like you didn't find anything helpful on the LDS film rolls we were discussing last summer?

Depending on what you have tried already, here are a few more ideas (please disregard those that you have tried already)

* since 1925 isn't that far back in time, I would try contacting the Brandls in that area. Go to http://www.teleauskunft.de/ click on 'Das Telefonbuch' and on the next page click 'English'. You'll find 6 Brandls in Landsberg, none in that other place...

* post your query with as many details as possible to the Bavarian message board (maybe also the mailing list). The board is at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.ceeuro...

* you have probably tried searching some or all of the genealogical search sites. What I do with my unresolved queries is, I go back to search for them again and again. There may come up new data that weren't around the last time. As you probably know you can find search sites & machines on our resources site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/#a2

* I would probably try and contact the town registry office in Landsberg. They may have some data there. The town's record section (Meldeamt) address is ewo@landsberg.de and the civil registry office (Standesamt) is standesamt@landsberg.de
I don't know how far back they would have records, but it may be worth trying.

* You might also try the Bavarian FAQs at http://bavariafaqs.homestead.com/index.html

Hope this helps

Tilman

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Janice,

thanks for posting all the information on your Brandls.Seems that you've got a lot to work with, including some links to be followed.

Do you have an idea about where your Josep B. Brandl came from? Was he a first generation immigrant or already born in America? (well ... yes, I'm really curious about any such links <g>)

P.S. I have added the surnames of the persons you mentioned in your post to the 'Surnames' field, in order to let others find any connections (the search machine uses this field!). Please let me know if I got it wrong in any parts.

Good luck with your further research

Tilman

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Jan,

a gold medal to you for delivery of the quickest answer ever on a message board <bg>

Thanks for your reply. Looks like there's still some work ahead of you. Like with most of us ....

Good luck

Tilman

Are there European BRANDLs too?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

(deutscher Text am Ende)
Hi,

I'm a Lower-Austrian Brandl, all of my Brandl line were living there since at least about 1750. A few of them emigrated to the States (NY) after WWII but returned to Europe later. My main interest is with my earliest ancestor I know of, Ignaz Brandl, who lived in Strass around 1750, married Susanna Raninger and had a son Josef born about 1775. I'm trying to find out where he came from - Bohemia? Bavaria?

Anybody else with (possible) relations somewhere in Strass or in the Kamp valley?

Regards
Tilman

Hallo,
Ich bin einer der Niederösterreichischen Brandls, die alle in dieser Gegend seit zumindest 1750 gelebt haben. Ein paar von ihnen emigrierten nach dem 2.Weltkrieg, kehrten aber später wieder zurück. Momentan interessiert mich vor allem mein frühester bekannter Brandl-Vorfahre, Ignaz, der ca. 1750 in Strass lebte. Er hatte zusammen mit Susanna Raninger einen Sohn Josef, geb. ca, 1775. Mich interessiert v.a. woher die Familie kam - aus Boehmen? Bayern?

Hat jemand (mögliche) Verwandte in Niederösterreich, v.a. in Strass (i.Strassertal) oder im Kamptal?

Tilman

Re: Are there European BRANDLs too?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Sally,

thanks for these hints. Somebody with established Bavarian links may hopefully find a connection to the names you mentioned.
So far my own research seems to be moving in circles around a small area in Lower-Austria only. The immigration of my earliest BRANDL ancestors into Austria may actually have happened way back - these early links are difficult to research, to say the least. I have anyway found a new (regional) link now which I'll follow. Perhaps I'll find links to Bavaria too one day.

As to Munich - there's no shortage of BRANDLs <g>. The phone directory has 476 Brandls there, and there are many more in Bavaria as well as in other parts of Germany too, also in Austria and the Czech Republic! In Munich there are at least 3 Brandls that I know myself - my sister, her husband (both are Brandls) and her daughter ;-)

Best Regards
Tilman

Re: Are there European BRANDLs too?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hallo Christl,

das war eine rasche Reaktion :-)

Es wäre wunderbar, wenn auch Du Deine BRANDLs hier hereinstellen könntest. Je mehr das tun, desto besser werden die Chancen, daß jemand Verbindungen entdeckt. Dein Verwandter hat mir bereits eine Ahnenreihe von Franziskus (1668) bis zu Maria (1888) zugemailt, allerdings ohne hinzuzufügen, wo sie gelebt haben. Vielleicht kannst Du ja diese Reihe komplettieren?

Habe bisher keinerlei BRANDL Verbindungen ausserhalb Österreichs gefunden. Aber was nicht ist kann ja noch werden!?

Schöne Grüsse

Tilman

------------------------------------- in English
Hello Christl,

nice to see you here! I didn't expect you that soon ;-)

It would be great if you could post your BRANDLs here. The more people we get to do so, the better our chances that some of us might find a few links.

I've already received information by email from your (Swedish?) relation, reaching from Franziskus (1668) up to Maria (1888), although without any indication where each of them has lived. Could you perhaps post that full line here?

Personally I haven't found a single BRANDL link outside of Austria sofar. Which doesn't mean that it couldn't happen one day!?

Best regards

Tilman

Updated Links & Announcements - Request for more hints

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi All,

I've been planning this all along, but seemed to never get enough time to do it.

Now I finally did it, I've started to add a list with some genealogical links from my own collection to the L&A page, that might be helpful for some of you and for any visitors to our board.

It's on my agenda to add still more links in the future. Alternatively and as this list grows I might some day create a special webpage for this, something I already announced prematurely in one of the BRANDL-list's taglines.

Of course I would also be more than willing to add any links any of you provides. Therefore, please mail me such links you may have gathered, or simply post them to the board. If you haven't got any such link handy, please just give me some hints as to what you are missing or consider as a possibly helpful addition here. Ideas for this may come easy if you try to answer any of the following questions:

* What's your favorite field of research? (country, region, period of time, other ...)
* Have you ever run into a solid brickwall? (most probably so <g>)
* Have you ever found a site that didn't particularly help you with your research, but made you utter a few ahs & ohs, or did anyway strengthen your motivation to carry on?
* What was the most helpful hint you got, or site you found on the web in support of your ancestral quest?

Well, you get the idea ... it would be great, if we all could put together a list of thoroughly helpful links here.

Thank you very much in advance

Regards
Tilman Brandl
tilman.brandl@tplus.at

Re: Bohemian Brandls

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

BRANDLs of Strass + Gettsdorf - Lower Austria

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

sofar I seem to be the only one here with Brandls in Lower-Austria. Anyway, I'll give a short outline of what I've found out only recently. When I started my family research I thought I was stuck with my g-g-g-grandfather, born in about 1750 in an unknown place, who lateron together with his family lived in 'Strass im Strassertale'. The reason for that deadlock soon became clear: Nobody ever had looked into the parish books of that village!
When I made contact with the parish priest, I soon learned about a guy who's done a lot of local & family history in this area, and happened to have most of the data I was searching for. Lucky me! Now I'm in the process of working through all these data of people unknown to me till now. I'm intending to go and check the original books in the respective parishes myself soon.

Sofar I have found:
A. Paul PRÄNDL (Prandl with an umlaut a), b:1717 in Gettsdorf near Ziersdorf, Lower-Austria: d:1787
moved to Strass and married Anna Maria Kreuzer in 1739, b: abt 1705, d: 1778

They had 6 children, but only Maria Susanna (b: 1744) and
Ignaz (b:1750) ever reached marriagable age.

B. Ignaz BRANDL b:1750 married Susanna Raninger in Strass.
Their 7 children:
1.Anna Maria, 2.Josef, 3.Anna Maria, 4.Ignaz, 5.Johann, 6.Matthäus, 7.Franz (sofar additional data for Josef only)

C. Josef BRANDL (#2.), b:1775, d:1840, married Klara PASCHINGER in 1792 and together they moved to Stiefern im Kamptal (Kamp river valley).

In Stiefern three more generations followed:
D. Ignaz BRANDL, b: 1803
E. Anton BRANDL, b: 1838
F. Anton BRANDL, b: 1878 (my grandfather)

There's more information on the BRANDLs of Strass, but they seem to be unrelated to my family from what I know.

Anybody out there with links into this region or even my BRANDL family branch?

Tilman Brandl

Tricia from Tx

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Tricia,

If you happen to read this - please check your mailbox.

List mails to your address were repeatedly bouncing back.

All the best
Tilman

BRANDLs in Gettsdorf, Strass und Stiefern - Niederösterreich

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

(da es jetzt zunehmend auch deutschsprachige Interessenten auf diesem Message Board gibt, übertrage ich meine kürzlich auf Englisch geposteten Angaben hier nocheinmal)

In meiner Brandl-Linie hatte ich zuletzt einen etwas legendären Ur-Ur-Ur-Grossvater Ignaz, der in Strass im Strassertale gelebt haben soll - nicht weit von Langenlois bzw. Hadersdorf im Kamptal, alles in Niederösterreich. Nun habe ich kürzlich Strass besucht, folgendes habe ich dort ausgegraben (ausser 2 Bänden der Ortschronik):

(b: bedeutet geboren, d: gestorben, abt: circa)

A. Paul PRÄNDL
b:1717 in Gettsdorf nahe Ziersdorf, Niederösterreich. d:1787; übersiedelt nach Strass und heiratet dort Anna Maria Kreuzer um 1739, b: abt 1705, d:1778.

Sie hatten 6 Kinder, aber nur Maria Susanna (b: 1744) und Ignaz (b:1750) erreichten ein heiratsfähiges Alter.

B. Ignaz BRANDL
b:1750 heiratete Susanna Raninger in Strass.
Ihre 7 Kinder :
1.Anna Maria, 2.Josef, 3.Anna Maria, 4.Ignaz, 5.Johann, 6.Matthäus, 7.Franz

C. Josef BRANDL (#2 von zuvor.)
b:1775, d:1840, heiratet Klara PASCHINGER um 1792, zusammen ziehen sie nach Stiefern im Kamptal.

In Stiefern folgen 3 weitere Generationen:
D. Ignaz BRANDL, b: 1803
E. Anton BRANDL, b: 1838
G. Anton BRANDL, b: 1878 (mein Grossvater)

Es gab noch weitere BRANDLs in Strass, auch bereits um einiges früher, aber eine Verbindung zu denen existiert entweder nicht oder ist bisher im Dunklen.

Einen ersten Familienstammbaum habe ich unter http://www.brandlweb.com/family.html ins Internet gestellt, die neuen Daten werden aber erst eingearbeitet.

Soviel für jetzt - für Anfragen stehe ich gerne zur Verfügung. Hat vielleicht jemand eigene Brandl-Verbindungen in diese Gegend?

Tilman Brandl

BRANDL Spelling variations - Namensvarianten

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,
since this hasn't been mentioned on this board sofar: There exists a whole bunch of different spellings for the BRANDL surname, which should be considered when doing research on this surname.

Although my own collection by far isn't exhausive, I'll nevertheless offer the alternatives I found up to now. Perhaps others will jump in and add more variants to the list, together with the necessary locational and timeframe-details (see list below):

Hallo,
bisher wurde auf diesem Board noch nicht darauf hingewiesen: Es gibt eine ganze Mange unterschiedliche Schreibweisen des Namens BRANDL, die man bei der Familienforschung unbedingt berücksichtigen sollte.

Obwohl meine eigene Sammlung keineswegs vollständig ist, stelle ich sie einmal hier herein. Vielleicht können andere diese Liste noch ergänzen, möglichst mit Angabe des jeweiligen räumlichen und zeitlichen Bezuges.

BRANDL, BRANDEL, PRANDL, PRANTL, PRÄNDL (with an umlaut A), PRENTL ...

There are other spelling which are close, but I'm not sure whether they are related, at least for my BRANDL branch:

Es gibt noch andere Schreibweisen, bei denen ich allerdings nicht sicher bin, ob sie mit der Variante BRANDL verknüft sind, jedenfalls in meinem BRANDL-Zweig:

PRANDELL, BRANDI, BRANDAL, BRANDLE, BRANDEN, BRAND, BRANDT

Anybody out there who has still more alternatives on his/her pedigree?
Hat jemend noch weitere Varianten in seinem/ihrem Stammbaum?

Kind Regards
Freundliche Grüsse

Tilman Brandl

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Miriam,

in continuation to my last message, here is where you'll find the Kleinlobming parish books:

Diözesanarchiv
Dr. Norbert Allmer
Bischofplatz 4
8010 Graz

Dr. Allmer understands English so you can easily email him any requests you have (but let me know if you run into any unexpected difficulties).

The email-address is:
(Dr. Norbert Allmer at) archiv@kath-kirche-graz.at

>> It would be exciting if I were one of your American Brandl links, popping up "out of the blue" <<

Yes, more than exciting, indeed! Meanwhile though I'm not going to hold my breath <g> I know that there are plenty of Brandls down there in Styria, I have had contact with some of them already. However, I haven't found a single one who knew of any relations with Lower-Austia where my people come from.

Hopefully one day I will be able to solve a few of the many riddles regarding the geogrphic distribution of Brandls all over the country (we have at least some 1800+ here in Austria, not counting the Brendl, Prandl etc.). Difficult to imagine that there should be no relation at all.

Good luck with your search

Tilman

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hello Miriam,

> Thank you so very much, ....

Welcome! And I wish you all the success with your research.

> "the woman from Steiermark" -- !!! LOL. That's a good one <g> As you may have guessed yourself, Steiermark is German for Styria, the name of one of the nine Austrian provinces (federal states or 'Laender').

Good luck with resarching the Pedrazzoli branch too.

And also - please let us know about any results re. your Kleinlobming Brandls.

Cheers
Tilman

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl - it's started to crumble!!

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Miriam,

wow! Great news!

I'm really glad that you did get that information from the archives eventually. You're of course right, the diocesan archives don't have the originals, only copies of the books for that specific period of time.

As to the 'Hausergut' you mention as the birthplace of Franz in abt. 1834: 'Gut' generally describes an estate, not a simple farm (-house). 'Hauser' probably was the name of a family, maybe that of the (original) owner. In other cases such naming prepositions may stand for a location, like in Bichlgut which would be an estate situated on a hill (Bichl=Buehel => hill, small mountain).

>> I see that I will have to carry around two names for a some of my relatives -- no, make that THREE names: one in German, one in Italian, and one in English! (for example, Johann, Giovanni, ...) <<

Actually this can happen easily, at least in Europe with its comparatively small countries. Moving a few kilometers over any border (or a moving border !) can change things considerably. Also, back then when countries were bigger, like the Austro-Hungarian Empire, they were of mixed ethnicity. Recently I have found a maternal branch of my family, German Austrians who lived close to Friuli (Italy), in Slowenia of present day. Their family name was del Negro, which later became translated into Schwarz (German) and even to Svarc (Slowenian). And of course there's also a Joannis (Latin?) who really was Johannes (German), while his wive called him Giovanni.

I don't know which genealogical software you are using, however most of them offer options to have AKAs for other names/spellings (e.g. Legacy which I'm using). BTW, I have a relative who even changed his (Italian) last name into a totally different English one. <sigh>

Good luck with your future research

Tilman

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl - it's started to crumble!!

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Miriam,

that's a lot of new relatives indeed !! Congatulations!

Yes, the Pfarrhof (parish office) address should be enhanced a little as you already have found out yourself:

Pfarrhof
A-8743 Kleinlobming
AUSTRIA (EUROPE)

Keep in mind that Kleinlobming is a rather small place. So everybody there knows where the Pfarrhof is ;-)

You haven't mentioned it, but you may have to write letters to the Pfarrhof in German in order to get an answer. You can find help for this under Links&Announcements. If the links there don't answer all of your questions, just let us know.

>> May your research gain you as much wonderful information as I've received in the last few days! <<

Well, I haven't told that story here since it's not about the Brandls, but I have actually found lots of relatives unknown to me just recently:

I had (nearly) given up on a branch in my family where the name had vanished (nobody in the Austrian phone directory anymore). Finally I found 4 people carrying that name after a search I did from Kuijsten's Navigator page. I wrote 3 emails and immediately found a whole bunch of relatives, spread all over the globe between Australia, California, Scotland and Styria <g>. Not bad, eh ? Now of course I'm nearly drowning in the new information I got ;-)

Kind Regards

Tilman

Conrad Brandl's descendants in Bayern

degloff — 2005-03-10 21:00:49Z

I am looking for descendants of Conrad Brandl ( 1824-1896). He was the brother of my great grandmother, Maria Agatha Brandl (1823-1895). Both were born in Passau. Maria emigrated to the Unitied States in 1855 and returned once in 1887 to visit her family in Bavaria.

Conrad had seven sons. I have their birthdates and their occupation and location in 1923:

Konrad, born 1860, died 1900 in Augsburg.
Georg, born 1862; a judge in Wurtzburg in 1923
Ludwig, born 1864; a pharmacist in Munchen in 1923
Rudolf, born 1865, a Director of Taxes in Munchen in 1923
Frederich, born 1868, a lawyer in Deggendorf in 1923
Arnold, born 1870, died as an infant.
Karl, born 1876, a doctor in Haar, near Munchen, in 1923

Any clues you have to descendants would be very much appreciated.

Re: Bohemian Brandls

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

One of Joseph Brandel/Brandls children who immigrated to the United States named Anton Brandel returned to or stayed in Prussia pre-1890. Anton was around 36 years old in 1890 per a land court case in Manitowoc County. This family was listed variously as Bohemian, Austrian and Bayrisch in the censuses taken in the United States. Anton is not otherwise listed with the family, only mentioned as a son in the court case. Do you know what your Anton's father's name was? Could it also have been Anton? The family came to the Manitowoc County Wisconsin United States prior to the 1860 census. Only the youngest is born in the United States at 1 year old at that time. However the next oldest is 12 born in 'Byron' [sic] -- Bayern. The immigration was said to occur between 1834 and 1848, which is why I believe that Anton would have returned being probably too young to stay on his own.

Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Am researching the Brandl family that settled in Manitowoc County, Wisconsin and their relatives in the United States: Joseph Brandl was born in the Bayern area of Prussia in 1826 and he married twice, once in Prussia before he immigrated and again around 1865 in Wisconsin.
(1) I am looking for any information about this immigrant family and who Joseph's parents might be and what the correct names of the wives might be.
(2) I believe his seven children were Wolfgang (1856), Anton (about 1850), Joseph-1 (about 1852), Francesca (about 1858), Tracy (about 1869), John (date unknown 2nd wife), Joseph-2 (date unknown 2nd wife). I am wondering who the other descendants in the United States may be and where they may be. One son went to northern Wisconsin. Anton returned to Europe, but I do not know if he stayed.
(3) Wolfgang had the following four children: Joseph W. (1879), George (December 1889), Sophia (July 1890), Theresa (May 1893) *Theresa may have been Wolfgang's mother's name as well.
(4) I am descended from Joseph W. and Mary Schreiner Brandel. They had 17 children; 16 lived. Some moved to Ohio.
(5) I would also like to find out if Wolfgang Brandl/Brittle (born about 1794) and Barbara Brandl/Brittle also living in Manitowoc County in 1860 and 1870 were in any way related to Joseph's family.

Thank you for any help, corrections, stories.

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Do you have an approximate birthdate?

There is an Elmer Brandl b. Manitowoc Rapids this century (1930s) in information I received from another correspondent, if information is accurate this Elmer would be descended from Wolfgang Brandl (my gg-grandfather) b. 1856 and Joseph Brandl Sr. b.1826.

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

There were at least 3 Anton Brandls who came through Manitowoc, Wisconsin. You will find a little bit in the census transcriptions at www.2manitowoc.com

I think you are looking for Anton (son of an Anton) born about 1864 and another poster to this board has done significant research on that particular family line; that Anton Brandl family went from Mantiowoc Rapids in Manitowoc County to Oconto.

My family has an Anton born about 1850 (son of Joseph Sr.) who we believe returned to Bavaria and after that we are not sure.

Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Minnesota

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

What I know of follows:

Mike Brandl, wife possibly Mary Pfeffer
father of
**Joseph Brandl Sr with Therese Kercher
parents of
****Wolfgang Brandl (born Oct 17, 1856 naturalization papers say Estekom, Bavaria, Germany, Brandl correspondent suggests Eschlam near Arnswang where other Brandls are from- some census paperwork says Austria - must depend what year)
****Joseph (I of 2) about 1852) went North
****Anton (about 1850) returned to Germany
****Francesca (about 1858)

**Joseph with Therese Schuler, Schyler, or Schuepel
parents of
****Joseph (2 of 2) between 1865 and 1870 - probably after immigration now set at August 1867)
****John (about 1871)
****Tracy (Therese?) (about 1869)

Wolfgang is my direct line; he is the only one of the children I have documented. He is my gg-grandfather.

One daughter married a Becker according to court documents - not sure if Francesca; I find a Francesca marrying Peter Kaufmann in 1886; but not sure if this Francesca. Could have been Therese below that married the Becker. Beckers show up with Brandls south of Manitowoc County in other records

I know of Michael who went to Fox Lake; I don't know the relationship. I know of Anton (contemporary to Joseph Sr. so not a son) who also went north from Manitowoc, but don't know what the relationship is. Johann (contemporary to Joseph Sr. not a son) was in Sheboygan, near Manitowoc, about the same time. We haven't established the relationship there either but Cato where Joseph farmed is very close to the part of Manitowoc County nearest Sheboygan. Joseph Sr. eventually moved to another part of the county in retirement. I know that Brandls ended up in Brown County and Kewaunee County but don't know which lines yet.

Thank you for asking. I don't know how many children in total there were, these are the only ones I have found so far. Any help or additions are greatly appreciated.

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

I have been trying to place and older Wolfgang born about 1794 married to a Barbara and on the Wisconsin census tracking his origins to Bohemia. Since the name repeats a few times in the generation born 1840 to 1850, in the family in Manitowoc County and in the family near New Ulm Minnesota, I am hopeful he might somehow be family but have found no proof yet.

Brandls in Brazil

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

This site contains historical information on Sao Bento and includes some Brandls who went there. It is in Portuguese. Interestingly enough, some of the same family names mentioned settled other places together along with Brandls.

http://www.portalsbs.com.br/historia/pessoas1/b/brandl/josep...
http://www.portalsbs.com.br/historia/livros/subsidios/pagina...

<navio> is ship
<filhos> is children
<imigrou> is immigrated
<Saida de> is left from
<chegada> is arrived
<declarou-se> is declared himself/identified self as
<lavrador> is builder

My rudimentary Portuguese worked but here is a free dictionary http://www.freedict.com/cgi-bin/onldicpor.cgi for basic nouns to English; it doesn't seem to do the verbs.

Re: Brandl's in WI, IL, Bohemia, Switzerland

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

I have the above town from naturalization papers for Wolfgang Brandl** filed in 1918 and 1920. Any other Brandl families from near there or trace back to there?

The line I am researching:
"Mike" (b. bef 1800? Europe)/wife unknown=>
Joseph Sr. (b. 1821 Bavaria)/first wife Theresa Kercher =>
Wolfgang (b. 1855 Bavaria)/wife Katherine Staudinger=>
Joseph W. (b. 1879, Cato WI)/wife Mary Therese Schreiner=>
Victor Brandl (my grandfather)

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Joseph Wolfgang Brandl/Anna Springstube? I have Joseph in the list from my mother, one of the children born in New Ulm, MN 1904 before our great grandparents Joseph and Mary went back to Manitowoc. Victor was born 1914. There were 17 children including them.

Regarding Mary Schreiner - great grandmother/married to the elder Joseph W. Her parents were Walburga Bartl (b. 1860) and Joseph Schreiner (b. 1857).

Am trying to figure out what Joseph W. was doing in New Ulm, what the relationship was to Michael Brandl family there and whether Michael was Joseph Sr's brother. [we go Joseph/Victor/ et.al=>Joseph W.(b.1879)-Mary Therese Schreiner=>Wolfgang(b.1855/6)-Katherine Staudingen=>Joseph Sr.(b.1821)-Theresa Kercher=>Mike (b.bef .1800)- ??Mary Pfeffer??]

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Wolfgang married Katherine Staudinger (I believe daughter of George).

Thank you for the insight on the town name.

re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Thank you so much for this. I have found time to track down this town on the web. They advertise farm vacations and the names on the farms are names we know from our families in Manitowoc County including Brandl. The town is also only 12.96 km from Lam, which is where another branch of the family that ended up in Minnesota traces themselves and where some of the other Brandls trace themselves, but have been unable to find records. I will pursue this further and keep you posted.

Also, another correspondent has an Anna as Joseph's (b. 1821) sister and therefore Wolfgang's aunt meaning their common father would be Mike (Michael) Brandl and mother Mary or Anna Pfeffer. Do you have a birth year for her or other information you would care to share?

re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Only by verbal tradition having another Wolfgang further back than the my great-great grandfather. I have not been able to find documentation. The first name is pervasive in the family, though, including in the group that went to Minnesota. Hopefully someone else living in the Manitowoc area will know something about Wolfgang and Barbara and see this post.

Re: Parents of Michael Brandl b. 1828 in Lam, Bavaria

lbconesa — 2006-01-07 18:41:13Z

Hi - Hope this is helpful

I have been working on this a little bit with another poster from your area; Joseph Brandl b1821-26? lists his father as Michael. My great grandfather Joseph (b1879) went to New Ulm to work where he met his wife Mary Schreiner (father Joseph; mother Walburga Bartl). The destination had to do with cousins sending letters to the family in Manitowoc, WI indicating there was work according to another correspondent working on the family. What I am not sure of is whether it was his aunt's (Franciska Brandl Klement) family or if it was Michael's family or both that summoned him there to work.

In the LDS Family History Library in Oakland, CA, I came across a microfilm of the records for New Ulm including probate, birth, and marriage. They show probate records for Michael Sr, Michael Jr, Franz Xavier, Wenzel Klement and Franciska Klement. I have been in touch with the court house in New Ulm and am hoping to get a hold of something that indicates contact or relationship in those records. I also would like to find more information on the marriage of Wenzel Klement to Franciska Brandl.

You may be interested that there is also a Frank Xavier Brandl (b. 1866) in Sheboygan, WI born to Johann Brandl (b.1821). These repeating names are part of why some of us suspect a relationship across these families.

The other way to pinpoint more exactly whether Michael came from Lam or near Lam is to find naturalization papers if they were done. My family and some related families in Manitowoc County came from Eschlkam which is not that far from Lam, but I could not find this out until I found a child born in Bavaria who had done the paperwork over here in the 1920's when Wisconsin required it to confer certain rights.

Brandl in Zenching ,Bavaria ,Germany

gsebald1 — 2005-05-14 03:44:28Z

I am researching the Wolfgang Brandl family that moved to Brown county in Minnesota.
His father was Johan GeorgBrandl born 1806, and grandfather was Josef Brandl..all were from Zenching. If anyone can help further, please let me know.I am making a trip there next May and want more detail.

Re: Brandl in Zenching ,Bavaria ,Germany

gsebald1 — 2005-05-14 03:44:28Z

Thanks Tilman for your help.
I am going there next May.I will have to get busy writing some letters.I had a researcher(marianne sutter)do some work for me in Regensberg.She was very helpful.
regards
greg

genealogie jevdjenijevitch - brandl

2003-09-06 06:56:02Z

bonjour,
qui pourrai m'aider à retracer l'ascendance de Nadia Brandl, mariée à Jevdjenijevitch

JEVDJENIJEVITCH Jivojin ( Zivojin ) N : ../../1880 D : ../../1942
xBRANDL Nadia N : ../../1899 MARBUG (DRA) D : ../../1995

merci d'avance ,

Ruddy De Graer

re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

2003-08-17 19:28:22Z

In reviewing my message to you, I made an error; Mary Brandl (not Anna) was married to Wolfgang Muehlbauer and are the parents of my great grandmother Victoria Muehlbauer Hastreiter. Several of Victoria's children were born in Eschlkam. I do not know if Mary is related to Joseph. But there is an Anna Brandl whose parents are Michael and Mary Pfeffer Brandl. She was married to Joseph Spaeth and lived in the Town of Newton. She was born about 1820 and died April 12, 1903. Buried in St Joseph's cemetery, Alverno, Town of Newton. Her death certificate gives her place of birth as Bavaria.
I have another Brandl ancestor, Theresa married to Peter Braun. Peter was from the Hirschau/Freidrichsthal area of Bohemia and it looks like Peter andTheresa and her sister and father all emigrated at the same time in 1854. Her father's name was Wolfgang Brandl. Do you have any information on this family??

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

2004-03-25 20:35:17Z

The Michael Brandl you noted who was mentioned in a write up on Auburndale is my g-granduncle, my g-grandfather's brother. He married Barbara Pongratz on Sept. 10, 1889. He also had a brother named Anton (married Louise Binsky) who I believe is the Anton Bill is looking for. Anton's parents were Michael Brandl, Sr. and Theresia Schreiner.

I have Michael Brandl, Sr.'s death certificate which indicates that his father was Joseph and mother unknown. If anyone has any info about Michael's parents, I would really appreciate hearing from you. They may have been born around 1815-1825 in I believe Eisenstein, Austria--now called Zelezna Ruda, Czechoslavakia. That is where Michael Sr. was born in 1844. He immigrated in 1882 from Bremen.

I will be happy to share my Brandl research. Just send me an email.

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

2004-03-10 00:28:28Z

My wife's Grandmother was Anna Brandel daugther of Antone Brandel. She married Leo od Leonard Kraus in Oconto, Wi. in 1885 and later lived and died in Menominee County, Michigan
I would like to know her exact date of birth. I estimate 1865 0r 1866.

Re: genealogie jevdjenijevitch - brandl

2004-01-28 09:29:07Z

hello
I have not spoken to Rudy but I don't think he did anything since I told my niece that since Nada Brandl died in 98 it was too late anyway to get in contact with her and since she was married to my grandfather (his 2nd wife) until 1942 when he died (they did not have any children) her ancestry was less important for us then our own direct. If you want to call maribor's archives you need to speak slovenian.
Good luck
Regards

Re: genealogie jevdjenijevitch - brandl

2004-01-27 12:51:30Z

Hello
I read your reply to Rudy who married my niece.
My grand-father married Nada Brandl before WWII, she was a famous yougoslav concertist. She died in 98 in Maribor, she was apparently quite famous, her house was on the main street.
I phoned the archives but did not get anything from them.
Do you know anything on her??
THKS
Regards

Re: Brandl's in WI, IL, Bohemia, Switz.

2004-07-12 12:40:50Z

Mark - Thanks for the interesting information on our name! My fathers family, Martin, is from Auburndale, WI and my grandfathers name was Anton. My mothers family are all from Sheboygan County, the dutch villages of Oostburg and Cedar Grove.

I will definitely chcek out your web paintings!

.. Bill ..

Re: Brandl's in WI, IL, Bohemia, Switz.

2004-07-11 21:51:24Z

Re: Brandl family, Kotzting, Baveria, Zenching area

2003-07-05 16:07:06Z

Thank you for your reply. I was trying to get my Aunt that lives in Kotzing interested in genealogy. Hopeing she would get online and spark up her life. Her father was Edward Huber and mother Maria Brandl. I don't think I was very successful.

Re: Brandl family, Kotzting, Baveria, Zenching area

2003-07-03 03:26:40Z

I have done some research in the Zenching area.Zenching is close to Arnschwang.........both are close to Kötzing.
There were many Brandls there , and in the immediate area
If I can help, let me know
I have gone back about 10 generations
my email is greg@sebald.com

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

2003-06-05 01:35:42Z

The Wolfgang Brandl that I am aware of lived in the Town of Liberty (buchanan) in Manitowoc County and on the 1860 census he is listed as Wolfgang Drandell age 66. He lives with the Anton and Barbara Brandl Wimmer family and I believe Wolfgang to be Barbara's father and also the father of my great, great grandmother Theresa Brandl Braun. The Wimmer census listing is right next to the Braun listing for the year 1860. I have no record of his death and the only reference I have to him spouse is the burial entry for Barbara Wimmer from St. Nazianz cemetery that lists Barbara as the daughter of Wolfgang and Barbara Brandl, born in Friedrichsthal, Bohemia. It does not seem that Barbara ever emigrated as she is not listed with either the Wimmer or Braun families. The only other Barbara Brandl that I am aware of in Manitowoc Co, immigrated in 1876 on the same ship as my great grandmother Victoria Hastreiter and her three children. Barbara had a daughter Sofia with her. What info do you have about Wolfgang in New Ulm? Is there a death record and if so, when did he die? That might explain why I can't locate any death record for him in Manitowoc.

re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

2003-06-05 01:20:01Z

Yes, Catherine was the daughter of George and Jospehine Brandl Staudinger. I don't know how or if Josephine is related to the other Brandl's that immigrated to Wisconsin. My great great grandmother's maiden name was Anna Brandl married to Wolfgang Muehlbauer and I know there are ties to her and Eschlkam.

Brandl from Munich, Germany

2003-04-16 09:57:19Z

Hi there,
Just want to say hello.
Greetings from our sunny town munich.

Yours
DJ Andi B.

www.DJAndiB.de
www.JAHH.tk
www.ClubKalinka.tk

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

2003-03-29 07:05:18Z

I think that I'm related to you!

Please write soon!

:)

Re: Ludwig Brandl?

2003-03-08 02:43:58Z

I am still trying to get information about Ludwig Brandl that lived near Landsberg am Lech. STAN

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

2003-02-02 00:03:37Z

Hello Bill,
I think your Grandfather, Anton, could be my gg-grandfather's brother. His name was Michael Brandl, Jr. and his parent's were Michael Brandl, Sr. and Theresia Schreiner, both born in Eisenstein, Austria and buried in Auburndale. Did your grandfather have 2 sisters and 2 brothers (Carrie, Theresia, Michael and George)?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Update - Brandl/Brandle from Bavaria

2002-09-17 23:33:58Z

George filed petition for naturalization on 23 Jul 1877 at the
Blair Co. Pa. Courthouse in Hollidaysburg.He signed Brandl.
On 26 Jul 1880 when he was accepted he signed Brandle.
He renounces allegiance to Emperor William in record but I
have been unable to find William in German History sites.
George and his Family have Bavaria as place of Birth in U.S.
Federal Census's 1880,1900,1910. His Obituary has Kaelzung
Bavaria Germany.His Children have Kutzding,Katzding, and
Ketzding as Town of origion in their Marriage records done by
St. Mary's Catholic Church,Altoona Pa.Keep in mind that the
Priest were writing in their version of Latin.George b.abt 1826
Walburga(Branstetter)b.abt.1831.Children Frank Xavier b.feb
1857 Anna Maria b.28 Aug 1862,Joseph Frank b.Feb 1865 and Theresa b. 22 Jul 1867. In 1900 census Frank and Joseph
put 1869 as year of Immigration. Does anyone know this Family or town in Germany?

Re: writing letters to Austria

2002-09-10 17:01:59Z

I am finally back to "normal" since all the relatives have left, and am ready to tackle writing to Austria for more information on my BRANDL relatives (and in-laws: GELTER, PEITENICKL, WILLINGER).

So, Tilman, if you could help, I'd be grateful! My first question is this: the information at the LDS site you gave me (for sample letters) says >>Be brief and simple. Do not ask for too much at one time.<< I had to laugh when I read that, because I have what seems like quite a lot of names that I would like copies of birth/baptismal/marriage/death records for.

Is it permitted for me to send all the names, places, and dates I have, with requests for all their records, or do I need to start off with just a couple of names?

And for payment, the LDS site suggests using Ruesch International Bank Drafts -- do you have any first-hand knowledge of this? Is this the best way to send money to Europe?

Thanks very much for your input, Tilman! the whole task will be a little easier for me now, since I know a couple of people around here who know German (one is German-born and lived there till he was 12). Once I have a letter written, I will have one of my friends read it for accuracy.

Miriam

Re: Ludwig Brandl?

2002-08-16 13:40:50Z

Thank you Mr Tilman Brandl For answering my message.
The LDS micofilmed tapes of Landsberg am Lech are listed as two tapes Dont know which one to order. Maybe I will have to order the 2 tapes.
Tape numbers 1958522 item 8 or 2189663 Items 1-4.
St Ulrich and Katharina Parishs are listed as 810051.
Have you ever looked at these tapes?
Hope to hear from you soon. Best of luck and health STAN

Any connections?

2002-07-07 19:11:53Z

My Mother was Ingeborg Albertine Gilman Brandl, (Munich)Married Leon Strigotte After World War II and came to America, I believe there are other Children of Luise Brandl (my grandmother) still in Munich or Germany in general, I would love to hear from anyone connected.

Brandl/Brandle from Bavaria

2002-05-17 13:28:24Z

Hi,

For 20 plus years I had a pc. of paper with the names of my ggrands and their 7 children on it.My sister got these names from an aunt who died in 1978. My father who died in 1974 could tell me only that the family was from Altoona Pa. and that he and my aunt were born in Baltimore. That's it, no other info.

5 months have gone by and I know have 166 names in my files. I was lucky to find a woman on the web who worked for the Blair Co. Pa. genealogical society,where Altoona is, and she's flooded me with info. The catholic church records have Brendle.The 1910 Pa census miricode Index has my ggrandfather as Joseph B. Brandel. His name was Joseph F. Brandle.The mistakes go on and on.I wrote to the Blair Co. Pa. courthouse and got copies of many marriage liscences. They all wrote Brandle. But when I'm searching for info I look for at least 6 spellings.

I'm looking for any info on George and Walburga (Branstetter) Brandle.Immigrated to Blair co. Pa. about 1868 with their 4 children.George b. abt. 1826 d.9/9/1889 his grave says Kaelzung Bavaria Germany. George Brandle has Kaelzung on his headstone, and the same in his obit. Altoona Mirror 9/10/1889. They both say Bavaria. Walburga Brandle only has Bavaria in her obit. In the Catholic church records their son Joseph has Ketzing, Bavaria. Is that the correct spelling of the town? How do I go about researching on the German front?

His oldest son,Frank X., moved to Johnstown which is in Cambria co. pa. They have a great web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacambri/cems/chStLaw01.html While searching their cemeteries I came across Harriet Brandl d.17 Jan. 1852 age 58 and Simon Brandl d. 23 Feb. 1865 age 34.

Ani hints or help greatly appreciated

Bill

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl - it's started to crumble!!

2002-05-11 17:52:23Z

There is even better news! Dr. Allmer sent back an email in answer to my request for any siblings of my grandmother Theresia BRANDL (later DAPRA), and now I have eight (more) grand-aunts and grand-uncles!!

I want to share this with you all, taking the information directly from Dr. Allmer's email:

"The children of Johanna Peitenickl/ Peiternikl and her husband Franz Brandl in Sonnberg 81, vulgo Grubbauergut in the parish Kleinlobming have been:

Anton: * 13. 1. 1855
Maria: * 2. 2. 1857
Georg: * 24. 4. 1959
Aloisia: * 7. 6. 1861
Katharina: * 27. 4. 1864
Bartholomäus: * 19. 8. 1866
Peter: * 21. 2. 1870
Theresia: * 4. 10. 1872
Ferdinand: * 20. 5. 1876"

He also gave me an address in Kleinlobming to write to for other information: A-8743 Kleinlobming, Pfarrhof.

That address looks too short. Tilman, please could you let me know how the whole address is supposed to look? I would assume, for instance, that there should be some sort of civil registry or office to address a letter to? And I think the United States' post office would probably like to see "Austria" on the letter, too. . . not too many of us (unfortunately) speak other languages!

Thanks very much for the other information you gave me, Tilman. May your research gain you as much wonderful information as I've received in the last few days!

Miriam

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl - it's started to crumble!!

2002-05-09 17:23:04Z

Re: Hello to this nice board

2002-01-03 07:00:53Z

Hi agian,
thanks for the warm wellcome! :-)
OK, Lichtenwörth is 5km in the east of Wiener Neustadt, a small town with 3000 inhabitants. And the name "wörth" is comming from "werde" - don´t ask me what it means ;-)
Only if you look in the telefonbook you can find 13 Brandl and 3 Prandl.
Please give me some days, I have to ask my father to put together a list with names and dates.
Regards
Andreas

Hello to this nice board

2002-01-01 16:53:22Z

Hi,
my Name is Andreas Brandl and I was born 1968 in Wiener Neustadt. I have two younger brothers, and we all live in the district of Wiener Neustadt. My parents live in Lichtenwörth, you sould have a look to this small town, a lot of BRANDL and PRANDL lives there. Perhaps you can find one of your (grand-)grandpa´s there ;-)
I will try to put a list together with our family tree.
regards
Andreas

Vorfahren v. Peter Brandl (g. 1820...1830) in Pfaffenfang gesucht

2001-11-11 15:03:42Z

Ich kann unseren Brandl-Zweig nur bis ca. 1820 - 1830 zurueckverfolgen, bis zu einem Peter Brandl. Vielleicht hat ja
noch jemand ein paar Anhaltspunkte fuer mich.

Also, es war einmal...

Peter Brandl u. Anna Maria Geisler aus Pfaffenfang, beide geb. ca 1820-1830
-> daraus resultierte ein weiterer Peter Brandl, geb. in Pfaffenfang am
20.01.1851, getauft in Altenhann, war Bahnangestellter in Furth im Wald
und starb am 11.02.1909
Er war mit einer Anna Pfeilschifter aus Ponholz verheiratet (7.10.1856 -
30.11.1922, Tochter von Michael Pfeilschifter u. Anna Schottenlohr)
Die beiden hatten 4 Kinder:
-> Fanny Brandl, Max Brandl, Lisel Brandl und Maria Brandl
Maria Brandl (geb. 24.09.1891 in Schwandorf) lebte in Burghausen und
hatte mit einem Rudolf Moser (geb. 1888 in Marsberg/Vilslern) aus
Post Velden (Vils) eine Tochter (die er nie sah weil im Krieg
gefallen)
-> diese heisst Hermine Brandl (geb. 09.02.1915 in München) und lebte
ebenfalls eine Zeitlang in Burghausen.

Ich kann leider nicht mal sagen wo die Orte Pfaffenfang und Ponholz sind,
da ich das bisher auf keiner Karte gefunden habe. Ab Furth im Wald ist dann
alles klar.
Laut meiner Telefon-CD ist in Furth im Wald ein richtiges Brandl Nest.

Gruesse
Helmut

Re: Are there European BRANDLs too?

2001-10-30 18:45:16Z

Hallo, Tilman, ich hab auch Brandl-Ahnen. Ich habe durch einen Verwandten in Dänemark, der den deutschen Namen seiner Oma angenommen hat, Deine Adresse bekommen und bin lange schon an Ahnenforschung interessiert. Ich habe auch einiges über die Brandls aus meiner Familie herausge-funden, weil ich die Kirchenbücher durchsucht habe. Ich muß mir aber die Daten erst wieder hersuchen und werde Dir dann
mitteilen, wie weit ich gekommen bin und ob sich eventuelle Verknüpfungen zu Dir ergeben. Also, bis dahin, viele Grüße, Christl Haagner (meine Mutter ist eine geborene Brandl)

Re: Are there European BRANDLs too?

2001-10-30 01:59:14Z

Hi Tilman,
Thank's for writing back! In the past I've written BRANDL's in Munich but, they have never written back. Perhaps their English is like my German. BAD!!! Maybe someday I'll get someone to answer my Brandl question's.
Best of luck to you.
Thanks again.
Sally

Bohemian Brandls

2001-10-04 22:17:31Z

Hi:

Just checking in to say that I married Erhard Josef Brandl, now deceased. He was born in Lobs, Egerland, Bohemia (Czechoslovakia) in 1923. This village was settled in 1200s by the Brandls, but razed in 1938-9 when the German-speking villages re-located over the border to the area between Nurmberg and Bayreuth.

He died in 1974 but I thought even that much information might help some of you researching that line. I am not researching it.

His father was Ånton Brandl, his mother Annamaria (nee Brandl too). Lots and lots of Brandls in Egerland :-)

He had a brother Walter, still living and a sister Anna.

Hope that helps.

You are doing a great job Tilman!

Maria Brandl
Orford, Tasmania, AUstralia

George Brandl/Mike Brandl

2001-09-08 10:34:26Z

I have a Michael Brandl who was 1st married to Dorothy Hoelze. Had 4 daughters-Catharine b.10-28-1839,married George Brendel, Barbara b.4-12-1842, married James Stahl, Anne b.4-2-1845, married George Soeller, Anne Ursula b.?, married John Horn. Michael Brandl was 2nd married to Anna? in 1880 census they were living in Glencoe, IL with his children Joseph b-1870, George b.-1872, Michael b.-1874, Paul b-1876 and Anna b-1879. Michael Sr. was 65 on this census. Children by 1st marriage were all living in Hamilton Co. Il by 1880 with their own families. I know Usurla Brandl came to US 9-28-1868 from Kaltenthal, Bayern Germany.
Catharine Brandl Brendel is my GG Grandmother.

Ludwig Brandl?

2001-09-08 10:32:41Z

I am trying to track down information on my grandfather Ludwig Brandl. He would have been born in approximately 1864 in Germany. Later, he and 2 sons came over to Canada and settled in Alberta, Canada. He had numerous children, and and married several times, eventually marrying a Ukranian woman, Nancy (Wilenski?), my Grandmother. They had 8 children together in Canada, one of which was my Dad, Benjamin Ludwig Brandl (born 1936). If you have any information about the Brandl family, please contact me at the e-mail address: kim_brandl@hotmail.com

Thanks!

George Brandl /or Mike Brandl

2001-09-08 10:31:53Z

I would appreciate any info re. my great-grandfather, George Brandl, born approx. 1877 in Germany. He married Theresa Pankratz (b. 1885) in Auburndale, Wisconsin on November 17, 1902. They had 4 children--Beatrice, George W., Mary, and Arthur. My great-grandfather may have immigrated here from Germany with his parents (father=Mike, mother=?).

Brandl, Jacob and Louise

2001-09-08 10:31:11Z

Jacob was a taylor for Meier@Frank in Portland,Or. Died abt.1950 Please help.

Theresa Brandl

2001-09-08 10:30:24Z

I am not sure if she had any sisters. With the dates of arival are being so close, I think they were probably sisters.I am guessing that most of the Brandl's in Manitowoc co. are related. If you would like to exchange more information please email at cmrotek@LSOL.NET.

Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

2001-09-08 10:28:56Z

Anna Brandl/Brandel she came from germany in abt 1854 from bavaria,germany.Her father was Mike and mother mary/anna pfeffer?. She may have had a brother named joseph and/or Wolfgang.contact me @cmrotek@lsol for more info.

Brandl from Bavaria

2001-09-08 10:24:49Z

I am looking for information on Theresia Brandl. She would have been born about the late 1700s, and was from Bavaria/Bohemia area. She married a Josef Thums, and they had at least two sons Wenzel and Franz. Wenzel immigrated to Wisconsin, and Franz died in Germany, and his wife and 3 children moved to the USA. Please email me with any information! luckykix46@hotmail.com

George Brandl(t)

2001-09-08 10:23:20Z

Still looking for any relation to George Brandl(t) and his daughter Theresia who married Joseph Thums. They were from the Bohemia area. Email me mel_wi_2001@hotmail.com

Re: Bohemian Brandls

a131313 — 2003-01-17 04:51:45Z

More inf on George Brandel - Born Apr 23 1892 - died Nov 1980 - Wife Martha Hodapp, Sons Vincent, Jerome, Harold - Daughter Lucille.

Re: Bohemian Brandls

a131313 — 2003-01-17 04:47:18Z

I am looking for any information regarding a Ferdinand Braldel/Brandl who lived in eastern Iowa, near Dubuque in the late 1800’s. Ferdinand was said to be Bohemian, had a wife (Anna Moser?) and at least one son- George, my grandfather

Brandl's in Wisconsin

wbrandl_1 — 2003-02-04 19:51:00Z

I am really new to this message board business so please bear with me if I am doing something wrong here.

I am trying to follow the thread of these messages an hope that by adding what little information I know about my family tree, perhaps I can get a handle on finding out more.

In one of the Wisconsin threads I note that an Anton Brandl was named. My grandfather's name was Anton and the best guess we have he was born sometime around 1880 in Austria. He was abondoned by his father as a child and didn't seem to know his mother either. He did eventually settle and marry of course, calling Aburndale, WI home. Aburndale is not far from Biron, WI so I thought that might tie into the Byron noted in one of the messages.

I recall my mother saying she thought Anton's fathers name was Mike, but I may just have dreamt that one. Anton married Louise Binsky b. 1885, on October 15, 1907 in Wood County WI. Anton died in Feb. 1970, and Louise died in 1959.

One of the messages said many of the Manitawoc and Sheboygan Brandl's moved further North, so I am also hoping that someone out there can confirm that perhaps my Anton was part of that move.

Thanks for listening.

Bill Brandl

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

wbrandl_1 — 2003-02-04 19:51:00Z

Marsha - Yes I have connected Michael Brandl, Sr. as my Great Grandfather, so he would be my Grandfather Anton's dad. Anton did indeed marry Louise Binsky (b. 7/??/1885 in WI, d. 1959). I do not know Anton's birthday but would like to know it if you have records. Anton and Louise married 10/15/1907, and he died 2/??/1970.

Please send me any and all birth, death, immigration and marriage dates that you have for this line of the family. Thanks.

Brandl's in WI

wbrandl_1 — 2003-02-04 19:51:00Z

Marsha - I think I didn't follow Tilman's advice yesterday and thus this email didn't get posted in this thread properly. I hope I am now doing it right. Here 'tis:

Marsha - Thank you so much for the information. Yes, I think we are definitely related. I just talked with my father's sister, my Aunt Emma, who is 91 years old and still living in Wisconsin Rapids. She recalls my Grandpa's sister Carrie (Richter) often visiting the farm when she was young. Carrie lived in Minnesota. She also knew a Michael Brandl had a farm just South of Auburndale and he was my Grandpa's brother. She couldn't recall Theresia other than to say that there was a headstone in the Auburndale cemetery for a Michael and Theresia Brandl. She couldn't confirm these were her Grandparents but it sure would seem to fit. George was not a name she knew. She did say that she thought my Grandpa was the youngest.

Emma also said that his mother raised him exclusively because his dad Mike wasn't around. I think that's where I got the abandoned story, although I do recall my mother saying that Grandpa didn't know his birth date, and had virtually raised himself from the time he was young.

My father's name was Martin and he was born 9-27-1913. His siblings were Alyda, Emma (both older), Ruth and Rudolph. My mother's name was Henrietta Ter Maat born 9-11-1919 and they were married in 1942 I believe. My brother Jim was born 2-6-1943, married to Sue Spaans in August 1965, and I was born 11-29-1949 and married Donna Crotteau 12-30-1967.

Do you have birth dates, marriage dates, immigration information and death dates on any of these folks? Or any other information?

We did not know about Eisenstein Austria, although I had always guessed it was near Vienna and close tot he CZ border. Thanks again!!

.. Bill Brandl ..

New to the board.

@@vern1@alltel.net — 2002-09-30 02:58:01Z

Hi, My name is Eugene Breindel. I live in Elk Co. Pennsylvania. My G-G-Grandfather was Johannes Baptist Breindel. He and his wife came here in 1842-1845. As near as we can tell that is the main spelling fo our surname. One of his son's has Bryndl on his tombstone. There are also Brendel's in our town and Bryndel's in the area. I beleive they were very poor and not well educated when they arrived here. The name could have been spelled differently in Germany. I have, with my brother's help traced our family back to a small village in Bavaria. It is called Parsberg and it is northwest of Regensburg.
I also have a Family tree maker web site. Here is the link:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/e/Eugene-F-Br...

Theresa Brandl

gbmueller1 — 2002-07-06 01:04:55Z

Do you know if Anna had a sister Theresa?? I believe my great great grandmother was Theresa Brandl married to Peter Braun and also immigrated around 1854. May have been married at the time of emigration or else on arrival in the US. Peter and Theresa lived in the Town of Liberty in Manitowoc County and she died in 1867 and is buried at St Gregory's St Nazianz. Do you know if she would be related to the Brandls you are researching?? Thanks for any help.

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

Zuzu_Petals — 2002-08-16 00:27:48Z

I am only starting on the Brandl line from the very beginning, since it is not directly linked to me, but to my father's first wife. She and her family lived in Wisconsin. Would you know if there was anyone on your family tree by the name of Elmer in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin area?

Alan George Brandl Obituary

BBarber69 — 2003-12-16 20:17:39Z

Alan George Brandl, 49, of Kelsey Road, Clinton, loving husband of Andrea (Fiori) Brandl, died Sunday, (December 14, 2003) at Shoreline Clinic in Essex. Born in New Britain, he graduated from Newington High School and from New England Technical Institute, and was employed at West Haven Veteran's Administration Medical Center. He was a member of the Timberlin Golf League in Kensington, and the V.A. Golf League in West Haven. In addition to his wife, he is survived by his father, Ronald Brandl of Kensington; his mother, Geraldine (Sparkowski) Brandl of Clinton; his father-in-law and mother-in-law, Joseph and Verna Fiori of Berlin; a brother, Jonathan Brandl; a sister, Rachell Vece; a niece; three nephews; and his loving dog "Chloe". A private graveside service will be held in Maple Cemetery, Berlin, at the convenience of the family. There are no calling hours. Those who wish may make donations in his memory to the Clinton Volunteer Fire Department, 35 East Main Street, Clinton, 06413. Porter's Funeral Service in Kensington is in charge of arrangements. Published in the Hartford Courant on 12/16/2003. (Volunteer Submitted)

Brandl from Machlinec, Galicia

hma87 — 2002-09-06 16:07:59Z

I am Josie (Josephine) from Chicago, Illinois, USA. And my Grandmother was a Brandl from "Osterreich"!

I can trace my Brandl family back to 1868 in Galitzia, Austria. Galitzia was a provence of the Austrian-Hungarian empire. My great-grandfather (Jacob Brandl) was born there in a town called Machlinec. This area is now in the Ukraine. He had 14 brothers and sisters. 3 of Jacobs siblings (Wenzel, Frank and Mary) migrated to Chicago between 1915 and 1920. I do not know the names of the other siblings. My grandmother, Teresa Brandl (born 1894) married Anton Hettel and they both migrated to Chicago in 1922. Had 2 children, Joseph (my father) and Jacob. Wenzel, Frank and Mary had many, many children and so I have many Brandl cousins living in the Chicago area.

As I only know of 4 of the 14 siblings from my great-grandfather, I am still searching for the other Brandl relatives that stayed in Austria. It is very difficult to find anything about them. I'm sure I have many cousins living in Europe.

We are Catholic and we speak a dialog of Austrian called Egerlandish. (But not me. When I started school in Chicago, I forgot my Deutsch).

If you come across any Brandl's from the area of Galitzia, I would be most interested.......

Attached is a German website that my Austrian friend Angela has put together. There, you will find a listing of my great-grandfather's grave site in Machlinec.

Just click on below.
http://www.koenigsau-galizien.de/friedhof_m.html

Josie

Brandl & von Schoenberg from Tarvis

willowharrislk — 2003-04-06 13:54:23Z

Hello Tilman;

Your Brandl-L Archives is like a light at the end of a road. Thank you.
All I knew about my grandmother was what my grandmother didn't know and that was "Was Tarvis in Italy or Austria in 1892 where she and husband where born.She was born Agnes Brandl in 1892 and married Joseph (von) Schoenberg born in 1884.
Joseph's parents came from Krouno, Austria. She had a sister Amelia and father's name was Michael. Where would I look for records?

Lois Wilcox

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

janicegbrady — 2002-04-13 14:50:39Z

My grandfather was Charles Karl Brandl. His father was Joseph Brandl and Joseph's wife was Catharine Weber.
Grandpa was born in Door County and the house is still standing next to the farm he bought from his father. Grandpa married Barbara Seidl from Rodenbaum, Austria on April 24, 1907. I don't have Grandpa's birthdate handy but I can get it in a few weeks. There are some Seidl's living in Manitowac that are related to us.
Hope this helps a little.

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

janicegbrady — 2002-04-13 14:50:39Z

More information on Charles Brandl.He was born in Green Bay, WI on Oct. 8,1876to Mr. & Mrs. Joseph B. Brandl. The family moved to Door Co. in 1881. He had 5 brothers and 6 sisters. Charles died in March, 1967. A brother Anton Brandl, living in Manitowoc, survived hin as did four sister. Sister M. Edward, Racine; Sister M. Theopane, Green Bay; Mrs. Madeline Kullen and Miss Francis Brandl, both of Chicago.
Charles and Barbara Brandl had two daughters. Anne K. Coisman, living in Texas ( age 87) and Hattie Jome, living in Oshkosh (age 84).
I am new to geneology and am slowly finding information that I will be happy to pass on.

Re: Brandl's in Manitowoc Co, WI

janicegbrady — 2002-04-13 14:50:39Z

Josep B. Brandl, as far as I can find out, immigrated from Germany and ended up in Chicago for a while. He then moved to Green Bay after he married. I am trying to find out more, but there is very little written about him and mother is having trouble remembering anything about him. I have a few other possible people to talk to and will keep trying.
Best of luck to all Brandl's in their family searches.
Jan Brady

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

wbrandl128 — 2003-05-28 19:00:32Z

LB Conesa - Finally, I am getting back to old emails, and yours is one of them. This past week I actually got an email from a Julie Wentz and her email also reminded me that at one point in my search you had provided some input. I am sorry I never followed it up. But better late than never.

Since my original posting I have learned much about my family, thanks to the help of Marsha Held. I have also posted my family tree on Roots.Web, and if you search on Martin or Anton Brandl, my father and grandfather respectively, you can follow my lineage.

Your paragraph ........
Joseph Brandl Sr. born in Bavaria (reported on the death certifcate as Germany) in 1821 is the son of a Mike Brandl, mother not reported. Joseph had a son Anton born about 1850. They settled in Cato, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin where they farmed. This Anton was not with the family at the time of an 1890 land court case and may have returned to Europe - another son had gone to Superior. Joseph married twice (Theresa Kercher and I think Theresa Schueler - though no official record in my possession as to the second wife's maiden name). Theresa Kercher would have been Anton's mother. I am trying to transcribe the land case material which is 100 pages longhand and very hard to read. There was some inheritance strife.
...............leads me to some more questions.

The dates for Joseph appear to match, and Joseph does have a son Michael Sr. born in 1844. Can you confirm any more details about Joseph including all dates and children born to Joseph and his wife(s)?

Thanks. .. Bill ..

Re: Parents of Michael Brandl b. 1828 in Lam, Bavaria

ccoffin192 — 2004-07-20 13:54:43Z

Brandl in Bohemia

magnolia75 — 2002-07-17 00:53:50Z

My Brandl is my gr-gr grandmother. She lived in Bohmeia. Have no info on her except she was married to Johan Wenzel Christl who was born in Dreyerhauser, Bohemia in 1802. Their son Anton Christl was born 6/13/1831 and married Anna Marie Steidl. I have this info from the baptism record of their daughter (my grandmother) Theresa who was born December 31 1866 and christened in Janessen, Bohemia. The family came to the US abt 1867 and lived in Wisconsin. Does anybody know of a Brandl with connection to the Christl family? If so, I would love to hear from you. Thank you.
Marge

Brandl

pwhistles1 — 2002-10-08 21:00:59Z

Chris..there is a michael Brandl who was born about 1915 and came to the US sometime before 1870. He was born in Bayern Germany

Brandl

pwhistles1 — 2002-10-08 21:00:59Z

Chris..He went to Jefferson county Ill and lived in a town called Bald Hill where he was a farmer. He was 54 at the time an married to a 27 year old women named Anna and they had five children. I assume it was his second marriage. Childrens names were:
Joseph, George, Michael, Paul, And Anna. His son michael was born in 1874

brandl

pwhistles1 — 2002-10-08 21:00:59Z

Chris..doubt they are related but a look never hurts..Pwhistles@aol.com

Re: Johann Brandl

pwhistles1 — 2002-10-08 21:00:59Z

Chris;

There was a Johann Brandel (?) who immigrated on the ship CORNELIS DEWITH from Rotterdam to NY on 23 november 1852. Says he was 31 years old so year of birth fits. Had a 6 year old female with him named Ernestine.

Paul

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

lobs5 — 2003-11-19 21:40:15Z

I think I may be related to some of these Brandls. My maiden name is Brandl. My father's name was Clifford Brandl. His parents were Andrew and Rose (Kundinger) Brandl. Interestingly My mothers maiden name was also Brandl (No relation)
Her parents were Edward and Anna (Proesel) Brandl. I know both of these families were from the Aubundale area.
and the history is that their families came from Bavaria and Austria.

Johann Brandl

@@zengler@bytehead.com — 2002-06-17 19:04:54Z

Looking for parents or brothers and sisters of Johann Brandl born 21 June 1821 near Straubing Bavaria Germany. He came to America around 1852/4.

Michael Brandl

@@zengler@bytehead.com — 2002-06-17 19:04:54Z

Paul I am interested. Tell me more. Do you know where he went after coming to America? There were 4 other Brandl families in Wisconsin at the time Johann came and all had similar named kids.

Brandl

@@zengler@bytehead.com — 2002-06-17 19:04:54Z

Johann Brandl came to Sheboygan, Sheboygan Co Wisconsin abt 1854. He never left. I would be glad to give you the family info on him if you want to give me your email.

Koetzting

2003-07-08 13:17:40Z

Hi Tillman,

there is an interesting side with a lot of informations about the town Koetzting, the owners of some houses and some citizen/people between the years 1600 - 1800 on

http://home.t-online.de/home/Clemens.Pongratz/listen.htm

Eve

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

bbmccumber — 2003-06-23 01:50:49Z

I'm tracing my father's side of the family and have a Joseph W. Brandl, born in Cato, WI 1879 married to Mary Schreiner, born Bavaria, Germany 1882. They had a son named Victor. His brother Joseph is my grandfather.

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

bbmccumber — 2003-06-23 01:50:49Z

Thanks for your response. I don't know what Joseph W. Brandl was doing in New Ulm or his relationship to Michael.

I'm certain we are related. My line follows Joseph W. Brandl (1879-1952) and May Schreiner (b.1882, Bavaria, Germany);
their son Joseph Brandl (1904, New Ulm, MN - 1951, Sheboygan, WI) and Anna Springstub (1909-1951); their son Robert Brandl is my father.

When Joseph W. died in 1952 his obituary listed three surviving siblings: Charles of Rt. 1, Cato, WI and two sisters, Mrs. John Reiderer and Mrs. George Loritz of Manitowoc. The obit did not name those who preceded him in death.

I don't know who Michael is nor do I know who their 17th child was. I have Joseph, Veronica, Agnes, Rose, Victor, Herbert, Ottmar, Robert, Bernard, Anne, Bernice, Charles, Leonard, Jack (I suspect his real name may be Leander), Elizabeth(Elsie), Sister Mary Hermangild, and five children who died in childbirth.

Hope this is helpful.

Brandl family, Kotzting, Baveria, Germany

ChuckC2 — 2003-06-10 16:26:00Z

Anyone researching the Brandl family from the area of Kotzting, Germany?

Re: Are there European BRANDLs too?

sallynealond — 2001-10-26 02:19:55Z

Hi Tilman, There were BRANDL's in MUCHEN but, I don't know now. My 2x Great Grandmother was MARIA AGATHA BRANDL born in PASSAU in 1823. Her parent's were GEORG BRANDL and THERESIA MARTIN. GEORG was born in 1788 in TREINBERG and THERESIA in PASSAU. GEORG's parents were GEORG born 1740 in GUETTERSBERG and APOLLANIA STRASSER of TREINBERG ( near PASSAU). Have you heard of any of these fine folk's? I hope so.
Thank you.
Sally

Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Greetings! Perhaps this query from America will help to shed some light on the Brandl family. I hope so, because this is a stubborn brick wall on my father's side of the family.

My father's mother was Theresia Brendl (sometimes spelled Brandl). Some of the best information about her parents comes from the birth record for her daughter Pierina Filomena Maria Dapra' (b. 15 May 1904): "Brandl Teresa da Kleinlobming /Steria/ di Francesco e Giovanna n. Peiternikl /n. 4-X-872/."

Theresia Brendl/Brandl married Romano Dapra' and had nine children; one of them is my father.

I would love to know whether Theresia and/or her parents appear in anyone else's family trees, and, of course, who her ancestors were! Tilman, perhaps this in the link to America that you have been waiting for!

Thank you!

Miriam Dapra

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Thank you so very much, Tilman, for the excellent information and leads on my research in Styria! I am most pleased and grateful for the addresses of the archives in Kleinlobming (surface and email) - now I can do actual overseas research, from the comfort of my home! It will be the first time I've done "real" research on "the other side of the pond."

I see that one of the web addresses you sent me has the word "Steiermark" in it -- my father's memory is not too good these days, but every once in a while he comes up with something good. I had showed him your first reply on this board, and he said, "Well, don't ask any questions, but when my father was upset with my mother, he'd call her "the woman from Steiermark" -- !!!

(He even dredged up the name of a "cousin" who came to the United States: John PEDRAZZOLI". It was the first I'd ever heard of any relative by this name, although one or two of his father's brothers came over. The last name sounded familiar, so I checked my copies of Italian birth & death records, and sure enough, "Pedrazzoli" was one of the surnames in the town my grandfather came from! Now to find which woman married the "Pedrazzoli". . . that's going to be tougher, and is a subject for a different message board. . . .

Thanks once again!

Miriam

Question on check to Austria for research (was Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl. . .)

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Hi, Tilman, I'm in a position today and tomorrow to get a money order or check in euros to send off to Kleinlobming for research on my grandmother Theresia BRANDL DAPRA''s ancestors.

My question is, do I just make the check out to "Pfarrhof"? (I also plan to send the equivalent of $20.00 USA dollars; is that still the suggested amount?)

Thanks! Hope to hear from you soon!

Regards,

Miriam

Re: Hello to this nice board

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Hi, Andreas. I'm an American whose father's mother was Theresia Brandl (Brendl). Her father was Francesco Brendl, and her mother was Giovanna Peiternigl. Theresia was from Kleinlobming in Austria, but I have yet to find out much more about her family.

I await your father's list of names eagerly!

Thanks for posting the web site to the cemetery in Machliniec! Seeing the list makes me wonder if my great-grandmother's name may have been "Peternek" at some time. The spelling of her name that I have comes from a birth record (in Italy) for one of Theresia's children. On the other hand, there are Peiternigls in Austria....the mystery deepens!

Miriam

found: a BRANDL in America

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

I was researching some of my Irish ancestors in Michigan about a month ago, and came across an intriguing fact.

One of my first or second great grand uncles [Stephen O'BRIEN] on my mother's side married a Mary WETZEL on 11 Jan 1905 in Battle Creek, Kalamazoo, Michigan. Mary was 22 at the time.

Her parents are listed as Conrad WETZEL and Catherine BRANDL. (Fireworks, please!!)

Unfortunately, I was doing this research while on vacation (in Salt Lake City, Utah), and ran out of time to do any further digging.

I thought I'd post the information just to whet your appetites for more research!

Miriam

Re: Brandl Resources Site - Update / Neuigkeiten -- THANKS! for the 1880 census link

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Re: Brandl Resources Site - Update / Neuigkeiten -- THANKS! for the 1880 census link

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Tilman, you are right; a gold medal should also go to the good people who worked to put those censuses on the Web in the first place. I can not imagine how they did it, but there is a veritable gold mine there. In my opinion, whoever knows about it and can but does not make use of it is. . . well, either way ahead of the game, or wants to do things the hardest way possible.

>>As soon as I find the time, I would like to make a short chapter of this on our resources site, if you don't object.<<

I don't object at all; I would be honored. Thanks!

Miriam

Re: Brandl's in Wisconsin

MiriamDapra — 2003-07-14 14:44:32Z

Hi, Bill, and welcome to the message board! You did a good job posting your information, with lots of names, dates, and places.

If you haven't checked out the BRANDL surname website yet, that's an excellent resource. It can be found at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/

It has a great feature (*thanks much,* Tilman and the volunteer who put the list together!!) -- a list of Brandls found in the 1880 Census Soundex. The information is found at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/Censu...

You may be interested in the Franz BRANDL (Milwaukee County); click on the number "3" to the left of his name. This Franz happens to be one of the seven households in the 1880 on-line census with the exact spelling of "BRANDL", and here is *some of* the information from that census:

Franz BRANDL, head of household, age 33, born AUS, occupation, painter; both parents born AUS

Mary A. BRANDL, wife, age 33, born AUS, occupation, keeping house, both parents born AUS

children:

Eliesibeth BRANDL, age 6, born WI
Anton BRANDL, age 4, born WI
Sousan BRANDL, age 2, born WI
Josaph BRANDL, age 1, born WI

Census place: Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

The census can be accessed at

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?P...

There is also an "M. BRANDL", age 69, occupation painter, with his wife Barbara, age 65, both born in AUS, living in the household next door to Franz and his family (the "previous" household to Franz on the census). M. and Barbara *could* be Franz' parents.

If I had as little information to go on as you seem to, I would give this some serious consideration, especially if your Anton had siblings whose names you know.

Happy hunting!

Miriam

Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl - it's started to crumble!!

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Miriam,

sorry for a misleading hint I gave in my last posting: Under Links&Announcements there's no links for writing German letters. Here's something which might help with writing to the Pafarrhof in German:
http://home.mmcable.com/bornagain/hessen/letters.htm and also here
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Rg/frameset_rg.asp?De...

Some of these form letters may need some work (for instance replacing references to Germany with Austria).

Let us know if we can halp you any further

Cheers

Tilman

Re: Question on check to Austria for research (was Re: Brick wall on Theresia Brandl/Brendl. . .)

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Miriam,
I would give the adress as:
Kath. Pfarramt Kleinlobming

That's also the entry in the phone directory. Adding the placename is important, so it won't get mixed up.

>> I also plan to send the equivalent of $20.00 USA dollars; is that still the suggested amount? <<

Hard to say. Depends on what you expect them to do for you. But in general I would think it's a more than adequate donation, anything between 10-20 $ would be ok. Last time I got a few copies of birth records in a parish, I sort of had to ply them with 10 Euros ;-) Could have got it for nothing easily. But since you need papers sent to you, they'll have actual expenses.

Hope this'll help.

Best wishes

Tilman

Re: Writing letters to Austria (changed subject)

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hello Miriam,

nice to see you dropping by!

As to your letters: In general, you won't handle this much differently as if you were to contact any parish office or church at home. So, the 'Do not ask for too much at one time' advice probably is a good one. While you are certainly permitted to send a whole bunch of name queries at once, I would consider it a bit imprudent. ;-) Personally I would start with maybe 2 names, and continue with the rest later.

I have no own experience with sending money the Ruesch way - or any other. The Bavarian site has http://www.foreignmoney.com/rates.htm as a link, you might check this too. Besides sending US money in an envelope, another method used in Europe sometimes is (or was) international reply coupons (IRC via the post office I believe). Don't know, if you still can get them in the U.S.

As to postage (you can't send US stamps obviously), giving them a fax # instead would be the cheapest way to get an answer.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for a successful mailing.

Good luck

Tilman

Re: Hello to this nice board

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hello Andreas,

welcome to the board! Nice to see another Lower-Austrian pop in here <g>. Must admit that I don't know where Lichtenwoerth is. Could you give us a hint or - still better - any kind of an URL? From the woerth part (which I think means an island) it sounds like a place on or nearby a river or possibly lake...

Looking forward to your data which we'll hopefully get to see soon ;-)

Wish you a Happy New Year !

Regards from Mauerbach

Tilman

Brandls of Lichtenwoerth. (Was: Hello to this nice board)

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Andreas,

thanks for the head ups re. Lichtenwörth. And - you're right, 'wörth' or 'woerth' (this is an o with umlaut) have the same root as has 'werd' or werde'. If I'm not mistaken, both mean 'Island'. There are examples of the 'werde' form in Northern Germany, for instance Finkenwerder on the Elbe river near (or in) Hamburg.

There are of course locations named 'wörth' where you won't find an island nearby anymore - because of river control measures done in the past. But maybe there are more meanings of these words that I don't know about ... any ideas anybody?

I'm surprised about the many Brandls in your (your parent's) area!

Just take your time with gathering data on your own family. We are looking forward ...

Nimm dir nur Zeit, auch wenn wir schon neugierig sind <g>

Liebe Grüße

Tilman

BRANDLS in Lower Austria & Styria (was Re: Hello to this nice board)

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hello Miriam,

Andreas will hopefully come back to you (and us others too) with additional info on his Brandl family branch.

Meanwhile I have also posted a reminder for the usage of the NOTIFICATION tool. It can be very helpful for any of us who maybe visit this board only occasionally.

Kind Regards

Tilman

Using the board's NOTIFICATION tools

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi all,

I thought it wouldn't hurt to remind us all of using the NOTIFICATION tools these boards offer (please disregard this, if you already know about it).

If you put up a message with pedigree info, data or a query, before you leave the board (or even after sending your post), just click on the darkblue 'Add Board To Notifications' link which sits just above the message space.

From now on you'll get notified whenever theres a post coming in on this board. This tool is especially helpful with boards that aren't too busy, like this one. You won't be flooded with notifications ...

This can be very helpful for any of us who maybe visit this board only occasionally. I'm using it always, also with several other boards that I'm interested in but don't visit on a regular basis.

There's still an other option you might use if you want to be notified about replies to your message only. Just be sure to mark the little square sitting just below the message window BEFORE you send off your mail.

All the Best to You

Tilman

There's also a BRANDL mailing list

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi all,

since this board normally isn't too busy, I guess I should spread my posts over several days instead of posting all at once <g>. But then again, better to say what's on my mind as long as I've gotten a little spare time - and can still recall what it was.

Some of you may be aware of the fact, that besides this board there's also a BRANDL mailing (or discussion) list.

This board is a perfect place to put up a flag for anybody who might come along lateron, even after years. So posting information or any data regarding our BRANDL pedigrees is a good idea.

The list OTOH is a good place for any other subjects you want to share or discuss with others. Worth mentioning: The messages posted on the list are getting archived and can be read and even searched later on too. So, nothing will be ever lost.

In the end, which of the two places you prefer, will mainly depend on the stuff you have to share and also on personal preferences.

You can find all info necessary to subscribe (or unsub) to/from the list at our newly set up Surname and Family Research Homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/
In addition - subscribing is fairly quick & easy.

Any and all subscriptions are warmly welcomed.

See you

Tilman

Re: Brandl/Brandel/Brandle in Wisconsin

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,

thank you so much for transcribing and posting all these data. I think this collection might contain valuable links for some of the Brandl researchers.

As I have already mentioned in private, we should put this on our resources page too, as soon as we have cleared up possible copyright questions - together with more such information.

For all of you out there, reading through this list, please be aware of what has been referred to as 'varying degrees of spelling' in the original message. Don't take any of the spelling variations shown just at face value, it might have been spelled in a different way!

If any of you happen to have similar data handy somewhere, please don't hesitate to share it here.

As to Bayerisch Eisenstein, what I know is that today there is this place on the German/Bavarian side of the border, and still the other one (as I believe the old Bohemian place) in the now Czech Republic, called 'Markt Eisenstein', now Zelezna Ruda. This place at least in earlier times consisted of two villages only some 2 miles apart, the second being called 'Dorf Eisenstein' (where Dorf means village).

There was BTW a message on the mailing list on 1 Dec 2001 referring to Eisenstein too. If you don't have it still on your PC, you can easily find it in the archives too at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/brandl

Anybody who's interested in details on the names mentioned in that list, please contact the original poster or email me privately.

Regards

Tilman

Let your pictures talk to us! Bilder erzählen Geschichte(n) !!

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,

I know, most of us are deeply buried in our every day's lifes' duties. If we find some time for family research, we often have extensive To Do lists with the focus set on priorities, our main branches and research goals. Other branches, ranking down at lower levels of the list therefore often get neglected. Makes sense, doesn't it?

Well, my own latest experiences made me reconsider this, and I'll probably touch this subject again later on. While we may not be ready to actually overthrow the order of our research plans, there are a few things we can do for our low-ranking relatives meanwhile.

Let me quote what I found on an other message board recently:

>> ... got your email and came to the website and I can not believe it!! I have a copy of the same picture of N. Nnnnnn and his wife Jane....only I had no idea who they were!!! ...<<

Draw your own conclusion. I however want to encourage you to post pictures of your ancestors here, whether you know the people shown or not. There's a slim chance that others might drop in, and find the solution to an old family mystery - your's or their's.

Do the same with scanned pictures or transcripts of old letters. Sometimes there are names (or whole pedigrees) mentioned in them that can give others the last clue they were missing.

Talking to others, telling some of your little stories - that's what often helps us getting over/through a brickwall, where all other means were exhausted. Pictures and letters *are* telling stories. Show them here, let them talk to us !

Still trying to find pictures of my BRANDLs - as soon as I have found some, I'll certainly post them here too.

There's still more which we can do - next time I'll tell a story or two about genealogical websites and what they can do for us.

Take care

Tilman

Stuff for our resources site - what do you all wish to see?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,

as most of you might know, there's a access site we opened some time ago at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/ serving the BRANDL mailing list and also the message board.

It has been planned for quite some time to add some resources to that site that would be interesting for other BRANDL researchers and also maybe helpful for our work. Like for instance
- selected search results from a few sites (like more detailed results from census soundex data; see the recent message Lisa posted on 1 Jul 2002)
- geographic information like maps and gazeteers (Bavaria, Austria and other places ... which ones?)
- historical information and documents
- stories about how it was back then in the countries our ancestors emigrated from (or did live anyway)
- photographs, ...
- etc. etc.

Please drop us a line and tell us what YOU would want to see, or would find helpful for your work.

Looking forward to your ideas on this!

Tilman

Re: Any connections?

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Jeanne,

I hope for you that anybody out there drops by, reads your post and will see a connection (one has to have a bit of patience though).

Other than this, I figure that your mother's history isn't that far back and there are chances to still find your grandmother's other children or anyway grandchildren in Germany. Perhaps you can find details from your mother's documents or other hints like an address, marriage dates & locations etc?

Unfortunately Brandl is a rather frequently used surname in Munich - there are about 450 people there carrying that name) and in Bavaria in general. So looking through the phone directory won't help much, unless you have unusual first names and/or any kind of address (I have found relatives this way in Vienna recently, with only a vague idea of the district where they were supposed to have lived; enough to filter out all the others...).

If this approach fails, the only way to actively search is working your way back from documents like birth, christening and marriage certificates or anything else you can lay hands on.

Have you btw already searched the web for Brandls in this area? Here again it may be difficult to filter out the huge mass of those unrelated to you, due to the common name. But it may be worth trying - go to http://www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator/ , select Germany and see what you might get.

Hope this helps a little bit.

Tilman

Alert: Brandl Surname Resources page - Major update !!

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi all,

I have spent some vacation leftovers and revamped our BRANDL Surname Resources Site a bit. Check it out at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/

This is something that was in the planning for quite a long time already, but couldn't get stuffed into my agenda (well, actually I stuffed it but still didn't get it done).

Sofar most of the new info is quite a lot of links to other sites - links ordered into categories which were checked before inclusion. Meaning that some of you will probably find a few sites you haven't seen previously, links that will actually work and are worth visiting or may even help you with your research work.

What's still better - it's now easier than ever to send in proposals for new links to be included. It takes only a few minutes to fill in the form at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/userl...

Feeling this wasn't good enough, I created a similar entry-form for adding Queries or Comments (feedback) or simply your own genealogical Webpage address together with some kind of short description. This is done at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/userp... . Both these pages as well as the main page have links to the respective list-pages showing these new entries for review.

Visit our all-new site and let me know what you mean. What's still missing, where did you find any glitches, which additions would you like to see or be willing to offer yourself? All input, comments and feedback are highly welcome!

The core piece however of our new site is the added US soundex census transcriptions of BRANDL related records. Thanks to the nice lady who accomplished this, spending lots of hours of her spare time. Sofar there's only 1880 for a single state, another set of data for 1900 is in the making and will appear on our site soon. We'll see what kind of material & resources we can/will add in the future.

Enjoy!

Tilman

Re: Update - Brandl/Brandle from Bavaria

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Bill,

thanks for the update - I have edited the subject in order to connect it to the previous post here, hope you don't mind.

What's interesting are the new variants of that location name. We have already earlier discussed some possibilities re. which town Kaelzung may have meant. May we guess that Kutzding, Katzding, and Ketzding are supposedly the same place as Kaelzung? Anyway, there's a town in Bavaria named Koetzting, East of Regensburg, towards the Czech border. This might fit, a clerk somewhere in the U.S. might have heard it and taken it down as Kutzding etc. Phonetically all 3 variants are really close. Worth a try I guess, to write to the parish there for any vital records they might have.

As to William - this of course is (was) Kaiser Wilhelm II. - the one who was so eager to get Germany into WW I (at least his generals were).

Good luck with your search

Tilman

Re: Brandl/Brandle from Bavaria

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Eve,

> i think the name of this town means Koetzting, it´s in lowerbavaria, near Viechtach

thanks for adding to the discussion. From what I have seen in the Bavarian gazetteers and finally on the map, I think that's correct. Without seeing the original script myself it's an educated guess anyway.

To my ears this at first sight was a quite unusual name for a place/town. I would've expected something like Koetzing, as this way to use the -ing ending is much more common in Southern Germany and Austria. But of course there are always exceptions.

Good luck with you own search around Neunussberg.

Tilman

Our Resources website - update finished

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hello,

some of you may have noticed already - our resources site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/ has undergone heavy construction works recently.

Now you can browse through the new transcriptions of US BRANDL related soundex census data - for 1880 and 1900 and 2 different states respectively. Otherwise a lot of genealogy links has been added. The idea was to make it easier for anybody hunting after his/her BRANDL ancestors, to search the web from one single place - although there's still enough jumping from site to site involved in our research work. Other additions are:

Under Links (see navigation bar on top/at the bottom of the main page):
* a list of BRANDL related user homepages - add your own site here
* a guestbook - just have a look, and also - drop us a line or two
* user added links - please share any interesting links you may find. They'll get incorporated into our site lateron

Under Searches (see navigation bars):
* a special search-page, search options including e.g. Googles.com or also Ellis Island
* an option to search the whole BRANDL website for any keywords, using FreeFind

Please, make use of that new site, but also add your own stuff, like your own homepage address or any links you might find worthwile.

In one or more earlier postings I have asked for your ideas as to what else to add to our resources - alas, in vain ;-((

No, I won't haul you over the coals ;-) But let me repeat my request: Please tell us what else you want to see on our page, what you feel might make your research work easier, without the need to hunt for resources all over the web. Thanks in anticipation!

All the best

Tilman

Unsere Ressourcen-Seite nach dem Umbau

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Re: Brandl in Zenching ,Bavaria ,Germany

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Greg,

just read through your message again. You have probably a good idea about what and where to search meanwhile.

Anyway, here are a few bits of information you could make use of:
Zenching belongs to the administrative district of Koetzing, province Niederbayern, Evangelical Parish Koetzing, Catholic parish Rimbach. You may want to contact the respective parish in advance, in order to know where to find the records you need.

Also: The German phone directory http://www.dastelefonbuch.de/ shows 6 Brandls still living there (the municipality/town is Arnschwang). You can find them when you enter Brandl for Name and Zenching for Ort. You might even write a few letters, better to know in advance who's your cousin ;-)

Hope this helps

Tilman

Re: Brandl in Zenching ,Bavaria ,Germany

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Greg,

good luck with the letters - and with your whole research

Tilman

Genealogical correspondence and travel to Germany

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,

following my own ongoing research and while answering different queries on the web I've found the following. Might be helpful for anybody who's considering writing letters or even starting out for a genealogical adventure travel to Germany.

http://www.horlacher.org/germany/articles/gertravel.htm

Enjoy

Tilman

Brandl Resources Site - Update / Neuigkeiten

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi all,
Hallo,

most of you will already be aware that we have a BRANDL surname website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/

Over the weekend I have added a few bits there:
* Hints for searching Austrian locations via phone directory and parish records
* Directions for finding US 1880, British and Canadian 1881 Censuses online
* Eight Steps to break through a Brick Wall

Auf Deutsch - For our German-Language readers (die Texte-Daten sind leider alle Englisch):
* Hinweise zur Ortssuche mittels Telefon- und Kirchenbüchern
* Link zu US (1880), Britischen & Kanadischen (1881) Volkszählungen
* 8 Schritte um aus der genealogischen Sackgasse zu kommen

Items like these, tagged NEW, will get announced in a textbox on top of our entry-page at a regular basis. Drop by now and again in order not to miss additions!

Hope you all had a nice weekend!

Tilman

Re: Brandl Resources Site - Update / Neuigkeiten -- THANKS! for the 1880 census link

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Miriam,

> Tilman, you deserve a solid gold medal, at least!, for giving us the link to the 1880/1881 censuses

LOL. Thanks. But I think that the people who put all these data on the web, do deserve it, frankly.

Also, after reading through your observations I believe there should be still another gold medal - for you. Honestly, these are the best & still concise directions for performing a systematic search I have seen so far. And you are correct in stating that everybody should "use the same principles of genealogy research as you would with other documents to find "your" family.

Your Ronayne, Ronan, Roonan example is by the way an excellent one. It stresses the fact that we must use all the imagination (and even phantasy) we can muster in a search like this.

I'm brimming over with enthusiasm ;-)

Thanks

Tilman
P.S.: As soon as I find the time, I would like to make a short chapter of this on our resources site, if you don't object.

New addition to resources site

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,

if you haven't been to our Resources Site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/ recently, you have missed the following additions:

1. NEW items:
* Pre-Christian Traditions and the Introduction of the Christmas Tree. Links to 2 different short papers - interesting reading.
* Link to Stephen Morse's 'Searching the Ellis Island Database in One Step'. Alternative and advanced Ellis Island Search option

Most of the items in the NEW section will be added to our site under an appropriate chapter later.

2. Pictures of the past:
This is a trial run. If people find it interesting enough, and also send in some of their own pictures, this may be continued.

This time I have selected a postcard my grandfather sent to his sister 96 years ago, while being with the Austrian army. You may click on that pic in order to see a larger version. Added is a short text only, describing what happened to my grandfather 8 years later (1914).

Pictures can tell a lot, if looked at with an open mind and contemplating the time they were taken. In some way, when I look at old pictures like this one, I often expect people suddenly to start stirring and moving away from the scene, maybe laughing and shouting. I would give something if I would know how they felt and what was on their minds at that very moment.

I don't want to make this message too long winded. Therefore, if I find the time, I'll post a short account of my grandfather's story here (or at our site) later.

To all of you who do celebrate it:
A Merry Christmas to you!

All the others - have a good time!

Regards
Tilman

Re: Brandl & von Schoenberg from Tarvis

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Re: Brandl family, Kotzting, Bavaria, Germany

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Charles,

I guess you have done so already, but if you didn't, you may want to look at the other board messages here related to Koetzting (Kötzting with an umlaut o).

Enter Koetzting into the "Search" field on top of the page, select "Brandl Board" and click "Go". There are as of today 5 messages related to that place and that name. A search over all boards gives more results, not related to Brandl though.

Please disregard my answer, if you have been there already ;-)

Regards

Tilman

Re: Brandl's ... meaning of our name

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hello Mark,

it's been a long time since I last heard of you. Welcome to our message board!

Your 'Brand' - 'Brandl' surname explanation is quite correct as far as I know. In Europe settling by clearing land through fire was a common thing in the early days. Around where I live (near Vienna) I guess it started even before 1000 and continued through the middle ages.

Like you say, from that explanation we have reason to think that there may have been many people who later went by the name of Brandl, without being related.

But let me add a second explanation, one I've probably posted earlier somewhere around here:

Brandl in Old High German is said to have been a small sword, while brand would simply have meant 'sword'. This form is still present in different old German names like e.g. Hildebrand(t). (source still to be checked)

Finally there may be a lingual relation between Brand/Prant (= sword) and Brand/Prant (= fire/place of a fire) since Prant has also the related meaning of 'burning pain' (caused by a sword?). Here too I'll hopefully find the source again ;-)

http://www.ahnenforschung-benz.de/namen.htm has the following (in German):
Brand, Brandt und Brant is derived from the (patronymic) name 'Hildbrand'. Brandl and Brantl would be the Southern German versions. He also mentions early occurences of Brandl derived from a homename 0r dwelling (named after a clearing by fire) as far back as in the 14th and 15th century.

Actually in what was later to become Germany surnames did only come in use in the 1200s I believe.

Tilman

New stuff added to resources - Neuigkeiten auf der Ressourcen-Seite

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Online Census Data available

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi all,

(my 3rd attempt to get this posted - sigh)

I don't think that we have covered this earlier already:

www.census-online.com have several online census data on their site. There are data for several years and states/counties for the U.S., also data for some provinces of Canada, and also for the UK (England, Wales. Scotland, Ireland).

What appears to be helpful is that you have clickable maps where one can select the appropriate county or region.

I have no experience of my own with that offer - so if any of you out there has already tried this, please let us know about how it went - be it good or not so good ;-)

Take care

Tilman

Re: Brandls from Estekom or Estekon, Bavaria, Germany to WI

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi Lisa,

I wonder which town this may have been ....

Doesn't sound Bavarian or German to my ears. Running it through Shtetlseeker at p://www.jewishgen.org/stetlseeker/loctown.htm doesn't give the expected result or anything that would come close, apart from a few places in Russia or the Ukraine.

So if it's really Bavaria, it must've been phonetically distorted. Maybe it does ring a bell with people on one of the Bavarian boards ? Was this an entry made in handwriting? If so, maybe posting a scan here (as an attachment) would give others a chance to take a stab at that word.

Regards

Tilman

BRANDL - one of the spelling variants

TilmanB — 2004-10-15 10:19:36Z

Hi,

most of you are certainly aware of the fact, that there are lots of spelling variants for Brandel.

For those who aren't, let me draw your attention for instance to the BRANDL message board at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/Surnames.Brandl But of course there are several more query boards and mailing lists for variant spellings out there.

My own family's name, BRANDL, goes back quite a long time. But when I dug out the father of my last known BRANDL ancestor, what a surprise: His name in the books was PRAENDL, born in about 1717.

Since some time we have a BRANDL resources site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandlsurname/

The links, hints and data (including some soundex census transcriptions for the USA) on this site may be helpful for any of the name variants you might have in your family.

All the best for your research

Tilman Brandl

Emma M. BRANDL, d. 20 Nov 1932, on Arizona death records

@@miriamd@catholic.org — 2004-05-10 18:53:40Z

All:

There is an Emma BRANDL on the new website of the Arizona (USA) Department of Health. The Department's URL is

http://genealogy.az.gov/

and the URL for Emma M. BRANDL is

http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/046/10462747.pdf

There isn't a great deal of genealogical information on Emma on the death certificate as pictured (you need Acrobat Reader to see it). She was single, a beauty shop operator, was born in Wisconsin, was 34 when she died, and was buried in Medford, Wisconsin.

I hope that this will be helpful to someone.

Regards,

Miriam Dapra

Re: Ludwig Brandl?

STANBARAN — 2002-07-31 02:22:46Z

I am trying to get information about Ludwig Brandl. He lived in Landsberg am Lech and Schwabhausen about 1925 STAN