Thank you so much for the information on this thread and in your published family trees (especially barbbirch). I have only been using Ancestry.co.uk for a week but thanks to your information have been able to push my husband's family tree all the way back, whilst the family had been stuck at Hannah and John Birch.

My husband's family is descended from Lucas and Tryphena. From the portrait of Samuel Birch as Lord Mayor we can see a strong physical resemblance to the current generation of Birches, including my young children, and I wondered if anyone else has noticed this.

Does anyone know if there is a connection to the Wyrley Birch family who we from Staffs (now Birmingham) and later Norfolk and Middlesex? We have anecdotal evidence of a link but I cannot find it in the family tree.

Also, does anyone know anything about the Birch, Birch & Co. shop front donation to the V&A Museum? Supposedly it was donated by Lord Kenyon and I am assuming this is due to the De Gray connection by marriage, but if anyone knows for certain that would be much appreciated.

Finally, if anyone does know how to get hold of the O'Neill book, I would be most grateful.

regards,
Tamsin Birch