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Adair, Parish Donaghadee, co Down

Adair, Parish Donaghadee, co Down

Posted: 29 Dec 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 6 Apr 2004 3:25PM GMT
Surnames: Adair, Grey, Bowman, Lennox, Crothers, Scott
Some IGI entries for Adair, Parish of Donaghadee, co. Down -

Adair, James, m. 9 Sep 1809, Donaghadee, co Down
to Martha Lennox.

Adair, Margaret, chr. 19 Aug. 1823, Donaghadee,
dau. of William & Margaret Adair (nee Crothers).

Adair, William, chr. 27 June 1827, Donaghadee,
son of John & Mary Anne Adair (nee Scott).

Adair, Catharine, m. 31 Jan 1846, Donaghadee, co Down
to George Grey.

Adair, James, m. 26 Sep 1863, Donaghadee, co Down
to Agnes Bowman.

The school at Donaghadee was founded by Lady Mount-Alexander

To the north of Parish of Donaghadee is the Par. Bangor.
To the west of Parish of Donaghadee is the Par. Grey Abbey.
To the south of Parish of Donaghadee is the Par. Ballywalter

I also had noted that a Robert, James & Alexander were of the Parish of Donaghadee.

Kilgore, ruling elder, Donegheady, co Down 1707

Posted: 27 Sep 2001 4:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 6 Apr 2004 3:25PM GMT
Surnames: Adair, Kilgore, Douglas, Baird, McClure
Would John Adair who may have married Jean Kilgore have been from this Parish?
It has been suggested descendants of James Kilgore went to America.

Did this John Adair go back to Ireland with James the trader, then return to America ?

Perhaps related to Charles Kilgore b1722 d1778 m. Jean McClure whose dau Esther Kilgore m. Thos. Baird.
Thomas Baird was son of Thomas Baird & Mary Douglaass.

Was this family rel. of Isabel Douglas who m. Robert Adair Mar 24 1760. Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, Newcastle Co, Delaware ?

Some say Douglas is Lord Kilgore ?
Perhaps more Douglas & Kilgore marriages in Old Swedes Church records.

Adair - Kilgore - Montgomery - Jack - Stevenson - Greer from Ireland

Posted: 19 Nov 2001 3:41AM GMT
Classification: Immigration
Edited: 6 Apr 2004 3:25PM GMT
Surnames: Adair, Montgomery, Kilgore, Jack, Stevenson, Greer
ADAIR – MONTGOMERY – KILGORE – JACK - STEVENSON

James William KILGORE bc1701 Donagheady, co. Down, Ireland,
(or Donagheady, Barony Strabane, co. Tyrone, Ireland),
dc1777 Hopewell Twp, Newtown, Cumberland Co. Pennsylvania,
m. Elizabeth JACK b. Sep 9 1727 Ardstraw, Barony Strabane, co. Tyrone, Ireland.
James William KILGORE emigrated c.1730 from co. Down, Ireland, with his father and 2 brothers, and settled in the Cumberland Valley taking up land in Newton Twp, Cumberland Co. Pennsylvania. He made a will dated Aug 23 1771 signed in the presence of James JACK, Sam KILGORE and Alex Laughlin.

Elizabeth JACK may have been sister of John JACK b. Mar 11 1726, Ardstraw, co. Tyrone, Ireland. John JACK m. 1752 in Westmoreland, Pennsylvania to Eleanor STEVENSON / STEPHENSON bc1738 d. 1828 Westmoreland, PA.

James William KILGORE’s son, Benjamin KILGORE bc1740 Donagheady, co. Down, Ireland, d. 1802 Livingston Co. KY.
Benjamin KILGORE m. Mary Ann McCreary (b. Greenville, SC)
and Jane McDAVID.
Benjamin KILGORE died 1802 in Livingston Co., Kentucky,
and his will dated Mar 22 1802 mentioned his dau. Jane ADAIR.

Jane KILGORE m. John ADAIR.
John ADAIR was son of James ADAIR and Rebecca MONTGOMERY.
John ADAIR’s 1st wife was Nancy LITEFOOT.

Did the families of Adair, Stephenson / Stevenson, Jack, and Kilgore,
all emigrate together from Ireland c.1730 ?

Some of them may have lived at some stage in Fayette Co. PA ?

Adair - Kilgore - Jack - Stevenson - Greer from Ireland

Posted: 22 Nov 2001 11:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 6 Apr 2004 3:25PM GMT
Surnames: Adair, Kilgore
The John Adair who m. Kilgore was not the son of James & Rebecca Adair (nee Montgomery). Their son John was buried in IN.

I believe the John Adair who m. Kilgore was buried at Rome, Floyd Co. GA, but this would have to be checked.
Perhaps a clue to his parents may be found in the lands he mentioned in his "Old 96 & Abbeyville District" will, some of them were :

Fork between Cane Creek and Little River.
Land at Conneross purchased from Baird.
Land at Flat Shoal, Little River below Fish Trap called Walter's Trap.

His grandson, James Bell, stated that John who m. Kilgore was born in Ireland. Perhaps someone may recognise the above lands and perhaps when they were purchased ?

Re: Adair - Kilgore - Jack - Stevenson - Greer from Ireland

Posted: 4 Nov 2002 12:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 8 Nov 2002 1:58AM GMT
I wonder if this John Adair, who married Jane Kilgore, was a son of James Adair (cooper) and Eleanor?

From various sources on the internet, John married first Nancy Ga-Ho-Ga Lightfoot (full blood Cherokee) and had several children who were later listed on the Cherokee rolls--including Walter "Black Watt" Adair. John also had a brother named Edward who married Elizabeth Scott (half blood Cherokee) and had several children--including a son named James who fought and died in a Cherokee unit during the War of 1812.

Descendants say John's and Edward's parents were James Adair (author and trader) and a Cherokee woman. I suspect this tradition is a confused version of the truth--their father was named James, but he was not the author and trader. Since the author and trader died in Bladen County, NC, and did not name any sons in his will, I suspect that John's and Edward's father was a different James--one living near where John's will was probated, i.e., James Adair (cooper).

A brother of James Adair (cooper), Joseph Adair (also a cooper), wrote his will 9 Jan 1788 and did not name sons John or Edward, so Joseph was not their father. A possible brother of James Adair (cooper) and Joseph Adair (cooper), William Adair of York County, SC, had a son named John who became governor of Kentucky, so William was not their father. I don't believe a will has been found for James Adair (cooper), so we do not know the names of all his children.

By the way, if other descendants of James Adair (cooper) and Eleanor are wondering if the tradition that John and Edward had a Cherokee mother indicates that Eleanor was Cherokee, I don't think the mother of John and Edward was Cherokee. The Ancestor Roll of Mt. Tabor Indian Community, Overton, Texas, shows that Walter "Black Watt" Adair, b. 12/11/1783 and d. 1/20/1835, was 1/2 blood Cherokee through his mother Ga-Ho-Ga. And there seems to be a clear a distinction between John's children by Ga-Ho-Ga, who did claim Cherokee ancestry, and John's children by Jane Kilgore, who did not claim Cherokee ancestry.

Any ideas are welcome.

Shawn Potter

Re: Adair - Kilgore - Jack - Stevenson - Greer from Ireland

R.D. Gross (View posts)
Posted: 7 Nov 2002 8:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
I will answer your posting and see if we can reach some common ground. Emmit Starr, The Cherokee Nation in OK and nearly all Recognized Adair Family Historians believe that James the trader was indeed the Father. John said he was his Father also.

Are you using Cooper as a Surname or profession? I ask because you use it in lower case and never as part of the name. Their is no mention of a Cooper in any of the Records on file for citizenship with this Adair line. All approved citizenship papers of this line refer back to this same James.

I would welcome any documentation that refers to a Cooper by any of his descendants. Also he is listed as an Educated man. Educated men do not drop part of their names. They give the name to their children.

James Adair is listed on numerous documents of the time and none refer to a Cooper.

There are numerous James Adair's but none meet the time frame, the area at time, or documentation.

I welcome your response.

Please explain to me what makes you believe there is any connection to a line of Coopers.

Adair - Kilgore - Jack - Stevenson - Greer from Ireland

Posted: 7 Nov 2002 9:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 May 2003 10:09PM GMT
Surnames: Adair, Lightfoot, Kilgore
Thankyou for your interesting message to which Shawn may probably respond.
I believe he meant a different James Adair "cooper by trade", probably taken from a will, rather than James Adair "the author".

The "cooper by trade" may have been son of Joseph Adair "cooper by trade" whom from memory left some of his cooperage tools in his will.

What interested me in particular was your reference
"nearly all Recognized Adair Family Historians believe that James the trader was indeed the Father (of John Adair the trader who married Nancy Lightfoot and Miss Kilgore).
John said he was his Father also."

I am not disputing this point, but would dearly like to see any substantiation of your comment "John said he was his Father also".

Looking forward to your reply and thankyou.

Re: Adair - Kilgore - Jack - Stevenson - Greer from Ireland

Posted: 8 Nov 2002 3:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear R.D. and Shirley,

Thank you both for your notes. Shirley, you are right about my meaning. R.D., sorry for the confusion. I wrote (cooper) to distinguish this James Adair, who was described as a cooper in several documents, from other people named James Adair in the same area and general time frame. This James Adair almost certainly was a brother of Joseph Adair, who also was described as a cooper in several documents and left a will in Laurens County, SC, dated January 9, 1788. The James Adair I wrote about died in Laurens County, SC, before February 12, 1796, based upon Laurens County, SC, Deed Book F, p. 109, where Eleanor Adair, widow of James Adair, deceased, released her dower to 120 acres on a small branch of Duncan Creek, being sold by Joseph Adair, Jr.--I suspect this Joseph Adair, Jr. was a son of this James Adair and Eleanor, not the man with the same name who was a son of Joseph Adair mentioned above--to William Holland.

In terms of location and timing, this James Adair and Eleanor appear to me to be the best candidates for the parents of John and Edward Adair. James Adair and Eleanor married say about 1741 based upon the estimated birth year of their son, James Adair, Jr. (born about 1745). By the way, James Adair, Jr. was also a cooper and should not to be confused with his first cousin, James Adair, who was a saddler and a son of Joseph Adair the cooper. James Adair, the saddler, married Rebecca Montgomery and moved to Indiana, where he died on March 23, 1831.

If John and Edward Adair were sons of James Adair and Eleanor, it would explain why--after the death of his first wife, Nancy Ga-Ho-Ga Lightfoot in Cherokee Territory, Georgia--John Adair married secondly Jean Kilgore, daughter of Benjamin Kilgore--who was a neighbor of James Adair and Eleanor in Laurens County, SC, and why John Adair's will is filed in nearby Abbeville, SC.

I'm not saying that I am certain that James Adair and Eleanor were John and Edward Adair's parents--I don't have certain proof of that connection. But, I am saying that James Adair and Eleanor seem to be more likely candidates than James Adair, the author--who died in NC and left a will that does not mention any sons. My theory seems to reconcile available records and family traditions about these families--i.e., descendants correctly recall that John and Edward Adair's father was named James Adair, but they almost certainly have confused this James Adair with the author--which would be an easy mistake because of the author's relations with many eastern tribes, but especially with the Cherokee. By the way, James Adair, who married Eleanor, may have traded with Indians. I have not seen any records to suggest that he did; but, one would expect that a cooper who settled in upstate SC at such an early date--at least before February 2, 1768--would wish to buy and sell to friendly neighbors and travelers of all groups who wanted and could afford his barrels and casks.

Shawn Potter

Edward Adaire, m.1732 Sarah Fariss / Ferris / Fairies, Bucks Co

Posted: 8 Nov 2002 8:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 May 2003 10:09PM GMT
Surnames: Adaire, Adair, Fariss, Fairies, Ferris
From a message from Bob Adair -

Documents Relating to the Colonial History of the State of New Jersey Vol22
Author: William Nelson
Call Number: F133.N42

This book contains the marriage records of New Jersey.
Bibliographic Information: Nelson, William. Documents Relating to the Colonial History of the State of New Jersey Vol.22. The Press Pringitn and Publishing Co. New Jersey. 1900.

MARRIAGE LICENSES.
MALES. A
Page 78

Adaire, Edward, Bucks, Pa., and Sarah Fariss, Bucks, Pa. 1732 Aug. 1

Shawn, Where would this Edward Adair fit in the puzzle ?
As a James Adair was b. in Bucks Co, I had thought he may have been son of above as one of his sons was named Edward. (Fowler Adair and Stephensen Adair lineages).
Edward Adare witnessed will of Miss Stephenson who had relatives in co. Antrim, Ireland).

Would this Edward Adaire have been a brother of Joseph Adair ?

Edward Adaire, m.1732 Sarah Fariss / Ferris / Fairies, Bucks Co

Posted: 8 Nov 2002 9:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 May 2003 10:09PM GMT
Surnames: Adair
James Adair b.1747 Bucks Co. m. Rebecca Montgomery was not father of Edward Adare, witness to will of Stephenson.

Rachel Sykes had a message :

ADARE, James Sr. born 1752 in Pa., was a Revolutionary soldier...spelled his name on land deeds as James Adair, and was the parents of James Fowler Adair and Elizabeth Adair.
James Adare, Sr. died in Chester Co., S.C. but was married to Anne Stevenson / Stephenson, the daughter of David Stevenson of York Co., S.C.

My apologies for going round in circles,
Can someone post a lineage for these going back to 1737 in PA ?

Did a John Adair in York Co. SC m. Fairies / Ferris ?
Thankyou.

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