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Vander Zouwen info

Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 2:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Vander Zouwen, Edzenga
My Grandpa is one of a long line of Cornelius Vander Zouwens. The earliest one I have info on was born in 1875 in Sliedrecht, Zuid-Holland to another Cornelius and an Arjaatje. As far as I know, Cornelius and his wife Flora (Edzenga) immigrated separately: he 1886ish with his family; her with her own family from Makkum, Friesland, probably around the same time. They met and married in New Jersey. Cornelius' brother Pete apparently married one of Flora's sisters, Kay (Cornelia).

Curious about more information on immigration (haven't figured out the exact date or ship), more ancestors and the meaning of the surname "Vander Zouwen" itself.

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 3:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
From www.wiewaswie.nl:
van der Zouwen is also the last name of the mother, but in Dutch records they never give married names so it is her maiden name.

Child Kornelis van der Zouwen
Gender:Male
Place of birth:Sliedrecht
Date of birth:Tuesday, July 27, 1875
Vondeling:N
Father:Cornelis van der Zouwen
Mother:Adriaantje van der Zouwen
Event:Birth
Date:Tuesday, July 27, 1875
Event place:Sliedrecht
________________________________
Groom:Cornelis van der Zouwen
Place of birth:Goudriaan
Age:24
Father of the groom:Pieter van der Zouwen
Mother of the groom:Boudewina de Bie
Bride:Adriaantje van der Zouwen
Place of birth:Sliedrecht
Age:24
Father of the bride:Kornelis van der Zouwen
Mother of the bride:Willempje de Kluijver
Event:Marriage
Date:Wednesday, March 21, 1860
Event place:Sliedrecht
__________________________________________

These records are fairly easily found, if you need help locating the original records let me know, they can be found at:
http://zoekakten.nl/

tip: never include the prefixes "van" or "van de" "van der" etc just search for Zouwen

With the prefix "van der" usually it is a reference to a place or town


Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 3:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 May 2015 4:26PM GMT
About the wife Flora I think her last name is spelled Idzenga or Idzinga since I can't find anything for Edzenga. I found a record for Folkertje Idzenga born in 1878 father Sjoerd and mother Attje Kuiper, but that is not a lot to go on not knowing the names of parents.

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 3:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you! The first site looks pretty interesting. I probably will have a harder time with the second, as I don't know Dutch (though I've considered trying to learn...), but it looks interesting as well.

I am aware that the "vander" bit isn't really the surname, but I still have no clue where to find the place that corresponds with "Zouwen". I suppose the spelling could have morphed or the place disappeared a long time ago.

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 4:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
I think that's the right one. The document I have from my Aunt names the mother as "Etta Kuiper" which sounds like the English version of Attje to me.

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 5:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
I can find a Zouwendijk in the area, so that is at least a clue to name of a place. I did find a reference to Old High German zouwen "to prepare" perhaps leather. So that could be a clue that the name was chosen having to do with being in the business of preparing leather.

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 6:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
So that is very definitely the right Flora (Fokeltje) - her father Sjoerd passes away 28 Sep 1885 so it is very likely Attje immigrated soon after. Death of her husband is a traumatic event and decisions had to be made. It is very likely Attje had contacts in the US, family who had immigrated earlier, and would be able to sponsor her and her young family to help her get settled in the new country.


I haven't been able to find a marriage record yet in Holland after 1885 for Attje Kuiper, so I am guessing it is just Attje and her young children who made it over.

Child: Fokeltje Idzenga
Gender:Female
Date of birth:Friday, January 18, 1878
Father:Sjoerd Idzenga
Mother:Attje Kuiper
Event:Birth
Date:Friday, January 18, 1878
Event place:Wonseradeel
____________________________________
Deceased Sjoerd Idzinga
Gender:Male
Age:56 jaar
Event:Death
Date:Monday, September 28, 1885
Event place:Wonseradeel
Husband of Attje Kuiper
___________________________________

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 6:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks! I have been concentrating on the Vander Zouwens for the moment, will move on to her pretty soon. Always saddens me when there are child deaths- one branch had 3 attempts at a child named "Arie", none of which survived over 2 years old, and the father died before he could attempt Arie #4. How hard that must have been.

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 5 May 2015 9:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,

The name “Zouwen” is probably from the polder “Zouwe”.

I have an old book from about 1930 where this polder is mentioned.

It says: “Zouwe, polder in the place “Ameide en Meerkerk”. That is not far from Sliedrecht.

Also I see in that book “Zouwendijk” in Meerkerk.

“The Zouwe” was also a drain ditch. The too much water in the polder was pumped out by windmills and thrown in the drain ditch to keep the polder dry.

The “Zouwendijk” is still a road in that area and is a handmade dyke (levee), in older days.

I think Luke Baars is write about the origin of the name “van der Zouwen”.

Maybe this helps you.

Regards.

Re: Vander Zouwen info

Posted: 7 May 2015 2:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 May 2015 3:08PM GMT
This is the familycard of Cornelis van der Zouwen ( between 1880 - 1890)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-30999-5976-53?...

Unfortunally it doesn't mentioned the date of emigration to the USA.

The had before a son Cornelis b. 03-Aug 1868 d. 17-Dec-1869
and a son Adrianus b. 28-Apr-1873 , d. 10-Aug-1875 ( all in Sliedrecht )

I think both the names Cornelis should be written Kornelis and I think the date of birth of the first one should be 13-Oct-1870 instead of 1869.
Not sure if he died before Kornelis no2 was born.

The 2 daughters Willempje and Cornelia got married in The Netherlands.
I don't know if they emigrated to the USA as well.

gr. Jan
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