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Re: Genealogy of Agterhof / Achterhof family

famaaarts — 2013-04-25 10:28:50Z

my email address : famaaarts@ziggo.nl
Thank you for sending any info about the Mennes family.

Jacob Datema 1881-1966 was a son of Lucas Datema (Niehove 29-08-1843 / Musselkanaal 05-12-1908) who was a son of Gerrit Pieters Datema (1807-1849) and Janke Harms Sijtzema who was a son of Pieter Gerrits Datema (17.. - 1833 (66) ) and Aaltje Klaassens.

Re: Genealogy of Agterhof / Achterhof family

rwarne63 — 2013-04-24 16:31:57Z

Please send me your email address so that I may forward my newspaper clippings and also my contact info for Gertrude.

Re: Genealogy of Agterhof / Achterhof family

famaaarts — 2013-04-17 09:23:30Z

Could you please sent me a pdf-scan of the newspaper clipping of John's Obituary ? Thank you.
Ton Aarts

Re: Genealogy of Agterhof / Achterhof family

famaaarts — 2013-04-17 09:12:25Z

Hallo rwarne63,

I haven't yet found what I'm looking for, but you may be able to help me with this as living in US and maybe able to look into data and registrations I can not.
First let me help you with your Dutch history.
Helen Datema was born as Hiltje Datema at the village of Ezinge, Aduard on 05-07-1878. She was a daughter of Lucas / Lukas Datema (1843-1908) and Grietje Drent(h)je (1850-19..). They married at Ezinge, Aduard 09-07-1874. Lucas Datema was the son of Gerrit Pieters Datema and Janke Harms Sijtzema. Grietje Drentje was a daughter of Jakob Jakobs Drentje and Hiltje Gerrits Sasveld.
I found several children Datema. Janke (f) 1876-1939 married twice, Hiltje 1878-1948, Jakob 1881-19.. married 1906 Marigje Alijda van Bottenburg, Gerrit 1883-1901, Pieter (m) 1886-1887, Pieterke (f) 1888-19.., Aaltje (f) 1891- ....
Are you related to Jakob ??

Hiltje Datema must have known Jan (John) Mennes already in The Netherlands, because she came to Jan Mennes in Kalamazoo early 1908 and they married 03-06-1908 (june third - I use European notation - pretty confusing).
Daughter Grace was born 1909, no further information on her.
Son Albert was born 07-09-1910, married Evelyn June Nash (1916-1988). Their son Albert W. was born 18-10-1937 and died (62) Vicksburg 08-03-1999. Children ??
Son Lucas or Luke was born 14-06-1912 and died (87) Schoolcraft Kalamazoo 15-04-1999. Children ??
Daughter Emma was born 1915 ?? No further info on her.
Son Garrett was born 04-03-1916 and died (58) sept. 1974. He married Helen ..... (1914-?). They had a daughter Gertrude 1938 ??
And there was a stillborn daughter Ida 15-05-1920.

Maybe you could help to get me in an email contact with any (grand)grandchildren of John Mennes and Helen Datema; I don't have the means to find any.

Thank you,
Ton Aarts
Roosendaak The Netherlands

Re: Genealogy of Agterhof / Achterhof family

rwarne63 — 2013-04-16 16:52:59Z

I am not sure you have found the information you were seeking. I am trying to find information out regarding the Datema name Helen (Datema) Mennes is a daughter of Lucas or Lukas Datema, who is my Great Great Grandfather. She was married to a John Mennes. I have a newpaper clipping of John's Obituary. He died April 29, 1979, born January 21, 1881 in the Netherlands. He was formerly from Vicksburg, Michigan. Had son's by the names of Albert, Luke, Garrett and daughters by the name of Grace and Emma. Hope this helps.

Re: Hof

janteam — 2013-04-06 21:09:27Z

Hallo Hedman,

Het zou mooi wezen als de zoon van Berend je vraag zelf zou beantwoorden maar aangezien hij zijn vraag al 12 jaar geleden stelde is het nog maar de vraag of hij dit forum nog bezoekt.( grappig dat hij zijn vraag onder het kopje Groningen plaatste ! )

Ik heb even op het internet rondgeneusd en Berend Pieter Hof, die een zoon is van Pieter Hof en Hendrikje Roelsma is volgens de US social security death index op 2-sept-1917 geb.( verm te Gaastmeer ) en ovl. 8-febr-1996 Holland ,Ottawa,Michigan

En hier is hij begraven :
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=ho...;

Ik zie net dat zijn zoon gewoon in het telefoonboek staat.
Zelf even zoeken (ivm privacy noteer ik geen gegevens ) via deze link : http://www.whitepages.com/
Gr. Jan

Re: Van Kampen

gvankampen1 — 2013-04-06 19:33:26Z

That's great to hear

Re: Van Kampen

gvankampen1 — 2013-04-06 19:30:56Z

Great - keep at it.

Re: Van Kampen

Mariannenl — 2013-04-06 18:16:44Z

Hi Gregg,

I an not related in any way to this family. Just enjoying the puzzle called genealogy....

Kind regards,
Marianne

Re: Van Kampen

gvankampen1 — 2013-04-06 00:37:05Z

My computer is acting strange, so if you've already received this ... my apologies.

Marianne, Are you also in this family lineage?

Thanks,
Gregg VK

Re: Van Kampen

gvankampen1 — 2013-04-06 00:30:27Z

Yes, this is my line. I looks as though we're the same generation. Kornelis was also my g-g-grandfather. My grandfather was Albert, the brother of your Henry VK.

I've quite a bit of information on our Van Kampen line, going back to before 1710. I'm not sure what you have or how far you're wanting to go, but I'd be happy to swap information with you.

Are you by chance the child of Jean VK?

If you'd like, we can email off the website. You can reach me at gvankampen@aol.com

Re: Van Kampen

Mariannenl — 2013-04-05 19:38:09Z

Marriage Henry:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FCJM-81V
Parents named as Jno. Vankampen and ...iend Larkins.

Marriage brother Cornelis:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FCC9-7C9
Parents named as Jno. Vankampen and Bowina Larkens

That brings me to the 1900 census:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MS9V-91W

Date of birth of John: Mar 1863, Holland
Date of birth of Bowina: May 1860, Holland

And their marriage:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FCYL-V5J
Names are badly transcribed, but is is them.

So now we have a birth month and year for them both.

And that brings me to the following:

Jan van Kampen
Born Westerwijdwerd (province of Groningen) 03 Mar 1863 at 13.00 hrs
Son of Kornelis van Kampen and Jantje Hendriks Kiewiet

Bouke Larkens (female)
Born Bierum (province of Groningen) 16 May 1860 at 22.00 hrs
Daughter of Henderika Larkens, father not mentioned

Do you need to get back further in time?

Kind regards,
Marianne

Re: Hof

hedman_bijlsma — 2013-04-05 06:56:24Z

I am searching for contact. For an item in the NEF (the New Frisian Encyclopedia) I need some informations concerning your father (that's to say: birthdate; birthplace; possible date of death and place of death). As he was two times Frisian champion and once national champion in the so called 'kortebaan'-races he will possible be registrated in this new encyclopedia. Plaese take contact with me.
Kind regards from Friesland,
Hedman Bijlsma

Re: Van Kampen

szytkewick — 2013-04-05 02:57:55Z

I think Kornelis is my great great grandpa. I think you have more information than I do because I did't have the name of Kornelis' father. My grandfather was Henry Van Kampen--born in Michigan around 1894--married to Gezina (Grace) Schortinghuis.

Re: Moerke, Oldenburger. Steinhuis

rdpiet — 2013-03-18 00:34:10Z

These are your great great great grandparent.......There are many children for your Great great grandparents.........You will be busy for a while.....I would sugest a geneaology software program. Happy nunting

narriage of Frederick

https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2a...

Same as Gerrit

https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2a...

Re: Moerke, Oldenburger. Steinhuis

rdpiet — 2013-03-17 23:53:10Z

see the following for the birth of Berend/Ben

https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2a...

Here is the birth of Gertrude...........

https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2a...

These records come from the Dutch Naional data base............The recprds have the same parets as the Iowas marriage but they are reversed.............There is currently no English version for the Dutch data base.

https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/uitgebreid-zoeken/

Re: Moerke, Oldenburger. Steinhuis

rdpiet — 2013-03-17 23:24:39Z

www,familysearch.org is free on the web.

Thank you for the information. I do not have a membership to Ancestory or to Family Search. I may have to do that

Re: Moerke, Oldenburger. Steinhuis

bkhamlot99 — 2013-03-17 23:14:08Z

Thank you for the information. I do not have a membership to Ancestory or to Family Search. I may have to do that.

Re: Moerke, Oldenburger. Steinhuis

rdpiet — 2013-03-17 21:10:35Z

www.amilysearch.org has the answer to who the parents of Ben and Gertrude are.........If you want to get data from Holland post aother message

Name: Ben Oldenburger
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Holland
Age:
Spouse's Name: Gertrude Oldenburger
Spouse's Birth Date: 1888
Spouse's Birthplace: Holland
Spouse's Age: 19
Event Date: 14 Feb 1907
Event Place: Monroe, Butler, Iowa
Father's Name: Fred Oldenburger
Mother's Name: Gretje Stewhues
Spouse's Father's Name: Gnat Oldenburger
Spouse's Mother's Name: Harmke Johnson
Race: White
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M58759-2
System Origin: Iowa-VR
GS Film number: 1035398
Reference ID: 2:3SS1VP6

Re: Moerke, Oldenburger. Steinhuis

rdpiet — 2013-03-17 20:57:05Z

Ben and Gertrude are in he 1910 census in Iowa with children Fred and George..........Ben immigrated in 1782 and Gertrude in 1892 this they did not cross the pond as husband and wife.....
You have to search the 1900 census to get Gertrudes parents or get her death record, she died in 1978, b 1887...Same for Ben, get his death record..If you have their borthdates post them so ohers may assist you in Holland

My great-grandparents immigrated from Holland. They were Benjamin and Gertrude Oldenburger. Ben and Gertruded were first cousins, so her maiden and married name were the same. Their children were Fred, George, Henry, Ben, John, and Emma. Fred was my grandfather and his daughter, Mary Oldenburger Baldwin, is my mother.

Ben and Gertrude lived in the Waverly, Iowa, area.

Thank you,
Kim (Baldwin) Bunce
I've been trying to find info with not a lot success

Re: Moerke, Oldenburger. Steinhuis

bkhamlot99 — 2013-03-17 20:39:16Z

My great-grandparents immigrated from Holland. They were Benjamin and Gertrude Oldenburger. Ben and Gertruded were first cousins, so her maiden and married name were the same. Their children were Fred, George, Henry, Ben, John, and Emma. Fred was my grandfather and his daughter, Mary Oldenburger Baldwin, is my mother.

Ben and Gertrude lived in the Waverly, Iowa, area.

Thank you,
Kim (Baldwin) Bunce
I've been trying to find info with not a lot success.

Beukema, Looking for my 1/2 brother

CarolleDunn1965 — 2013-03-08 18:47:45Z

Hello I am looking for my half Brother Patrick Conaty born possibly 1963 of Brenda J. Grantham, her married name was Beukema, she also went by Brenda Conaty... if you have any information please e-mail me @ chouxchef@hotmail.com
Thank you,

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

Mariannenl — 2013-02-10 20:03:27Z

These are all the details on the family of Jan Beukema and Klaaske Drent(h):

Jan Beukema (farm hand)
Born Vierhuizen 02 Feb 1837
Son of Albert Rijpkes Beukema (day laborer) and Anje Alberts Ruiter (day laborer)
Married (aged 24) Ulrum 16 Nov 1861 to:
Klaaske Drent (maid / servant), aged 23
Born Oldehove 16 Nov 1838
Daughter of Arend Arnoldus Drent and Eelje Jacobs Helder (day laborer)

Children:
1) Anje Beukema (female)
Born Vierhuizen 06 Mar 1862
Died Vierhuizen 20 May 1862, aged 10 weeks

2) Arend Beukema (male, twin)
Born Vierhuizen 26 Nov 1863
Married Ulrum 14 Jan 1888 to:
Dietje van Dijk
Born Eenrum 28 Nov 1865
Daughter of Sebo van Dijk and Grietje Zuidema
Children:
1. Jan Beukema (male), born Vierhuizen 22 Feb 1888, died 11 May 1888
2. Sebo Beukema (male), born Vierhuizen 01 Oct 1889
The family left for the USA on board the Werkendam,
dep. Rotterdam, arr. Castle Garden 25 Apr 1890 (name transcribed as Amend Beukerman)

3) Albert Beukema (male, twin)
Born Vierhuizen 26 Nov 1863
Married Ulrum 31 May 1890 to:
Wemeltje Wieringa
Born Noordhorn (mun. Zuidhorn) 04 Feb 1866
Daughter of Jan Wieringa and Jantje Alserda
Children:
1. Klazina Beukema (female), born Vierhuizen 07 Sep 1890
The family left for the USA on board the Obdam,
dep. Rotterdam, arr. EI 06 May 1892 (name transcribed as Beuhema)

4) Jacob Beukema (male)
Born Zuurdijk (mun. Leens) 07 Nov 1866
Died Ulrum 27 Nov 1957, aged 91
Married 1) Ulrum 19 Jan 1895 to:
Ailina de Vries
Born Vierhuizen 04 May 1872
Died Vierhuizen 13 Oct 1907, aged 35
Daughter of Jan de Vries and Geeske van Straten
Married 2) Ulrum 13 Mar 1924 to:
Trijntje Visser
Born Zoutkamp 03 Dec 1873
Died Ulrum 21 Dec 1955
Daughter of Pieter Visser and Lutgerdina Balk
Widow of Johannes van Dijk
Children:
None found

5) Eelje Beukema (female)
Born Hornhuizen (mun. Kloosterburen) 07 Feb 1869
Married Ulrum 11 Jan 1890 to:
Johannes Boerema
Born Ulrum 01 Jan 1867
Son of Ubel Boerema and Trientje Pilon
Children:
1. Trientje Boerema (female), born Vierhuizen 05 Dec 1890
The family left for the USA on board the Veendam, dep. Rotterdam, arr. EI 28 Apr 1892

6) Anje Beukema (female)
Born Vierhuizen 08 Aug 1875
Married Ulrum 18 Mar 1899 to:
Pieter Kuipers (day laborer) aged 18
Born Ulrum 05 Sep 1880
Son of Marten Kuipers and Magdalena Tillema
Children:
1. Klazina Kuipers (female), born Vierhuizen 30 Nov 1897
2. Magdalena Kuipers (female), born Vierhuizen 25 Sep 1900
The family left for the USA on board the Noordam, dep. Rotterdam, arr. EI 28 Apr 1903

7) Gerhard Beukema (male)
Born Vierhuizen 10 Mar 1878

8) Menno Beukema (male)
Born Vierhuizen 21 June 1881
Died Vierhuizen 29 June 1881, aged 08 days

9) Menno Beukema (male)
Born Vierhuizen 17 Oct 1883

I couln't find the passage of Gerhard and Menno.

Kind regards,
Marianne

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

Jan_Brul — 2013-02-10 18:07:10Z

Anje Beukema is born 8 Aug. 1875 in the village Vierhuizen, which is part of the county Ulrum. See https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15721-49614-20?cc... for the copy of her birth certificate that she delivered for her marriage.

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

GeorgeB440 — 2013-02-10 17:35:13Z

That is the way it is spelled on the information I have. If I have misspelled it, I apologize.

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

Jan_Brul — 2013-02-10 17:34:15Z

Why do you call this state Groeningen? It is named Groningen.

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

GeorgeB440 — 2013-02-10 17:24:09Z

The only thing that I have are the names of the 7 children of Menno and Klaaske. Thank you for the information on the Groeningen site and the family search - will be looking into them ASAP.

Thank you again.

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

rdpiet — 2013-02-10 17:22:17Z

if you need obituaries from Chicago email me off liswith name and date. .......Bob rdpiet@aol.com

Children of Jan and Klaaske Beukema:

Albert Beukema Born 26 Nov. 1863 - Vierhuizen Groeningen
Died 30 Dec. 1916 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Arend (Aaron)Beukema Born 26 Nov. 1863 - Vierhuizen Groeningen
Died 6 Sept. 1913 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Jacob Beukema Born 7 Nov. 1866 - Leens,Groeningen
Died Where and When unknown
Eiltje (Ella) Beukema Born 7 Feb. 1869 - Hornhuizen, Groeningen Holland
Married 11 Jan. 1890 - Ulrum Holland (Spouse Joe (Johannes) Boerema
Died 26 Feb. 1948 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Angie (Anje or Anna) Beukema
Born 8 Aug. 18 Holland (Where Unknown)
Married 18 Mar. 1899 Ulrum, Groeningen (Spouse - Peter (Pieter) Kuiper)
Died 16 July 1927 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Gerrit (Gerhardt) Beukema
Born 12 Feb. 1878 - Holland (Where Unknown)
Married 4 May 1945 - Chicago, Cook County Ill. Spouse (Clara (Nellie) Knelske Lindemuller
Died 12 Feb. 1912 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Menno (Mike) Beukema
Born 17 Oct. 1883 Vierhuizen Groeningen
Married 23 Nov. 1907
Died 7 July 1926 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.

I have some additional Info on Menno Beukema as he was my Great Grandfather.

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

Jan_Brul — 2013-02-10 16:59:18Z

I am not related.
Use the site http://www.allegroningers.nl for information about people from Groningen.
Jan Beukema, farmhand from Vierhuizen married on Saturday 16 November 1861 in Ulrum to Klaaske Drent. The 10-year index starting on https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15714-10584-85?cc... lists 15 childern Beukema born between 1863-1872. It will take a lot of time checking 15 birth records. Do you know their names? Do you know when they emigrated?

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

GeorgeB440 — 2013-02-10 16:55:59Z

I have the following information:

Children of Jan and Klaaske Beukema:

Albert Beukema Born 26 Nov. 1863 - Vierhuizen Groeningen
Died 30 Dec. 1916 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Arend (Aaron)Beukema Born 26 Nov. 1863 - Vierhuizen Groeningen
Died 6 Sept. 1913 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Jacob Beukema Born 7 Nov. 1866 - Leens,Groeningen
Died Where and When unknown
Eiltje (Ella) Beukema Born 7 Feb. 1869 - Hornhuizen, Groeningen Holland
Married 11 Jan. 1890 - Ulrum Holland (Spouse Joe (Johannes) Boerema
Died 26 Feb. 1948 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Angie (Anje or Anna) Beukema
Born 8 Aug. 18 Holland (Where Unknown)
Married 18 Mar. 1899 Ulrum, Groeningen (Spouse - Peter (Pieter) Kuiper)
Died 16 July 1927 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Gerrit (Gerhardt) Beukema
Born 12 Feb. 1878 - Holland (Where Unknown)
Married 4 May 1945 - Chicago, Cook County Ill. Spouse (Clara (Nellie) Knelske Lindemuller
Died 12 Feb. 1912 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.
Menno (Mike) Beukema
Born 17 Oct. 1883 Vierhuizen Groeningen
Married 23 Nov. 1907
Died 7 July 1926 - Chicago, Cook County Ill.

I have some additional Info on Menno Beukema as he was my Great Grandfather.

Re: Geneaology Research - Beukema

rdpiet — 2013-02-10 16:03:37Z

Ehat are the childrens names and when and where are they born ??

Looking for information on Jan Beukema, born 2 Jan. 1837 in Ulrum Groeningen and his wife Klasske (Clara) Drenth born 16 Nov. 1838 in Oldehove, Groeningen.

Have some information on their children, but don't know if all of the children came to USA.

Looking for any current descendents to help fill out the family tree on my Fathers Side of family.

Geneaology Research - Beukema

GeorgeB440 — 2013-02-10 15:45:43Z

Looking for information on Jan Beukema, born 2 Jan. 1837 in Ulrum Groeningen and his wife Klasske (Clara) Drenth born 16 Nov. 1838 in Oldehove, Groeningen.

Have some information on their children, but don't know if all of the children came to USA.

Looking for any current descendents to help fill out the family tree on my Fathers Side of family.

Re: Genealogy of Agterhof / Achterhof family

famaaarts — 2013-01-24 09:51:35Z

Hallo,

I am married to Ingrid Mennes. Her father's grandfather was Pieter Mennes (1882-1911). His older brother was Jan Mennes (1881) who came to Kalamazoo Michigan in 1907 (John Mennes) and started a business in photo equipment I believe. He married the Dutch girl Hiltje (Helen) Datema (1878). She died 1948. They had possibly 5 or 6 children.
In 1951 John Mennes went back to The Netherlands / Groningen to visit family (also the only son of his brother Pieter) and married Johanna Achterhof, daughter of Siert Achterhof and Annegien Dijkstra.
Siert Achterhof was born Ulrum, 24-09-1868, Son of Johannes Achterhof and Lena Huizinga and died (81) Ulrum, 24-12-1949.
Johanna Achterhof (1901-1972) was the oldest daughter of John's older halfsister Annegien Dijkstra. John's and Pieter's mother was Emke Mennes and the father of her 5 ! children was NN, but I found out that it was Albert Dijkstra (1850-1907).
When John and his second wife Johanna went back to Kalamazoo in 1952 her younger brother Albert (1904) went along. I don't know about his life in Kalamazoo.
So, my wife is related to Johanna (and Albert) Achterhof through Johanna Achterhof and John Mennes.
John Mennes died (98) Vicksburg Kalamazoo 1979.

Ton Aarts
Roosendaal, The Netherlands

Re: Groningen

Deb_kuper — 2013-01-16 00:43:44Z

My great-great grandparents were born 03/29/1875 Nieuw Beerta Netherlands. Folkert Alberts son of Frauke Franzen Alberts. He married Hauke Reiken and they lived in Parkersburg. They purchased the Okke Van Hauen farm 1933. My grandma Talena Alberts built and ran the HiWay 20 Cafe and then sold it in the late 80's. The recent tornado wiped it out. I have a lot of information on my family heritage in Parkersburg, Beerta Netherlands and Germany as well.

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

Jan_Brul — 2013-01-07 11:42:44Z

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Re: Eeltje Jenzes Terpstra, b. 1806, Wanswerd, Friesland

carlsonjm — 2012-11-18 19:55:05Z

You are correct. Here is a full translation:

Baptisms [in municipality of] Ferwerderadeel
birth year 1806, baptism year 1806
Born on 22 May 1806 in Wanswerd
Baptized on 29 June 1806 in Wanswerd
Person baptized: Eeltje
Father: Jenze Wijbrens
Mother: Grietje Jacobs
Source: Collection of Baptisms, Marriages, Burials and Church Memberships (DTBL)
Dutch Reformed community/parish of Wanswerd and Jislum, baptisms 1686-1811
Inventarisnr. : DTB 243

Do you have his death?:

Overlijdensakte [death certificate] Dantumadeel, 1882
Aangiftedatum [registration date] 5 december 1882, akte nr. [certificate no.] 146
Overleden [deceased]: Eeltje Jenzes Terpstra, op [on] 3 december 1882, 76 jaar [years], man [male]
Vader: Jenze Wybrens Terpstra
Moeder: Grietje Jacobs Timmerman
Gehuwd [married]

marriage:

Huwelijksakte [marriage certificate] Dantumadeel, 1828
Bruidegom: Eeltje Jenses Terpstra, oud 21 jaar, geboren te [born in] Wanswerd, gemeente Ferwerderadeel
Vader: Jense Wybrens Terpstra
Moeder: Grietje Jacobs Timmermans
Bruid: Antje Symons Vellinga, oud 23 jaar, geboren te Birdaard
Vader: Symon Lieuwes Vellinga
Moeder: Grietje Hendriks Valks
Datum: 18 mei 1828, akte nr. 31

I have no idea what you have, so I'll include info on Eeltje's children:

1) Grietje (f), b. 22 Jan 1829, Dantumadeel
d. 14 Oct 1921, Dantumadeel
m. Dirk Dirks Poortenga, 24 May 1860, Dantumadeel
2) Jense (m), b. 6 Feb 1832, Dantumadeel
d. 2 May 1893, Dantumadeel
m. Pietje Paulus Kingma, 1 Jun 1861, Dantumadeel
3) Wytske (f), b. 31 Aug 1834, Dantumadeel
d. 24 Apr 1857, Ferwerderadeel, unmarried
4) Baukje (f), b. 14 Jan 1837, Dantumadeel
5) Symon (m), b. 30 Sep 1839, Dantumadeel
m. Lolkje Kornelis Oostenbrug, 15 May 1869, Dantumadeel
6) Maaike (f), b. 16 Mar 1842, Dantumadeel
d. 18 Jul 1883, Dantumadeel
m. Pier Sydzes Kooistra, 19 May 1866, Dantumadeel
7) Ytske (f), b. 2 Feb 1845, Dantumadeel
d. 23 Jan 1875, Dantumadeel, unmarried
8) Lieuwe (m), b. 1 Jul 1848, Dantumadeel
m.1) Jitske Dirks Idzinga, 26 May 1877, Dantumadeel
m.2) Rebekka Arnoldus Ernst, 19 May 1881, Dantumadeel

Re: Eeltje Jenzes Terpstra, b. 1806, Wanswerd, Friesland

divajodi — 2012-11-18 15:29:31Z

Wow!! Thanks!! So good to have such helpful people on Ancestry!!

Jodi

Re: Eeltje Jenzes Terpstra, b. 1806, Wanswerd, Friesland

lukebaars — 2012-11-18 15:18:34Z

do you have the picture of this headstone?

Re: Eeltje Jenzes Terpstra, b. 1806, Wanswerd, Friesland

divajodi — 2012-11-18 15:05:54Z

Thank you so much for the date for Eeltje!! I only had the year and that wasn't even correct! When the month listed is Mei, may I safely assume that means May? Thanks again!!

Jodi VanEngen-Walder

Eeltje Jenzes Terpstra, b. 1806, Wanswerd, Friesland

carlsonjm — 2012-11-18 01:40:47Z

Jodi, did you ever find this birth date that you were looking for? (from Tresoar):

Ferwerderadeel, dopen, geboortejaar 1806, doopjaar 1806
Geboren [born] op 22 mei 1806 in Wanswerd
Gedoopt [baptized] op 29 juni 1806 in Wanswerd
Dopeling: Eeltje
Vader: Jenze Wijbrens
Moeder: Grietje Jacobs
Bron: Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmaatboeken (DTBL)
Herv. gem. Wanswerd en Jislum, doop 1686-1811
Inventarisnr. : DTB 243

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

Jan_Brul — 2012-11-14 15:57:18Z

It must be a Family History Center.

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

saj9291113 — 2012-11-14 05:32:35Z

Does it have to be a Lds church or could it be a familysearch center? I don't know if northern Chicagoland has any mormans but there is a familysearch center 1.5 miles from my house. Thanks

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

syvand — 2012-11-14 03:54:45Z

If you go to your nearest LDS church, they can get the book sent to them for you to read at their office.

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

saj9291113 — 2012-11-13 21:39:31Z

Syvand,
Thanks for checking. Still at square one. I don't know much about the Familysearch centers? Do you know if all locations have copies of the book you made? There are a couple of them in my area.

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

saj9291113 — 2012-11-13 21:27:31Z

Jan, thanks a ton for the help. Looks like still stuck on this question! I didn't even think of the " business" theory, that would make a ton of sense! Again thanks for your help. What is the jansbridge 79/50? Is that a street address? I don't know much about that area since my Dutch line has been in the US for over 100 years.

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

syvand — 2012-11-13 17:29:57Z

Our family have their roots in Roodeschool, Oldenzijl, and Middelstum, the Netherlands

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

syvand — 2012-11-13 17:28:17Z

These names do not show up in the family tree that I put together. Sorry! A copy of the book I made can be found in the Family History Center Library in Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

Jan_Brul — 2012-11-13 16:33:43Z

Ryan, the father of Johannes Bussema is not known. Bussema is her maiden name. His mother came to Amsterdam and lived there in 1839. Genlias gives his name as NN NN. This is short for the latin Nomen Nescio or in english Name Not Known. She might have been in the business that Amsterdam is still known for or she might have had an accident. The birth record that I copied tells us that she declared that she lived in a house standing at Weesperzijde near the Jansbridge 79/50.
The first kept census of Amsterdam is the 1851 census. She is then certainly already long away of Amsterdam.

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

Jan_Brul — 2012-11-13 14:59:01Z

Ryan,
Helena Bussema is the mother of Johannes Bussema. She declared so at the court in 1864. When her son was asked for the registration of his marriage he needed to supply a birth certificate. There was none, so he could not marry. His mother requested the court in Amsterdam a late registration and that was done. Due to this his son was already born before the late marriage finally occured. The copy if the birth certificate of the bride is produced on November 2, 1864; His military record on December 3, 1864. Both are in time for a birth on January 16, 1865 in Sauwerd. See
http://www.allegroningers.nl/index2.php?task=bladeren&id... for their real marriage record.

Jan

Re: Looking for van der Molen, Bus, van der Kooi, Smit, Schipvaart , Busch, Schuur

saj9291113 — 2012-11-13 14:54:42Z

Jan, thank you but still doesn't answer my questions. I'm trying to figure who the father is. My second question is if the Helena that had a child with van waes is the same Helena. Both Johannes and van waes child are around the same age. I am believing either van waes is the father, but no concrete evidence to support my assumption. Then my next question will be is Helena maiden name. I am also assuming that on Johannes birth record that bussema is her married name. These are just hypothetical assumptions but I would like to rule them out. I know Helena is mother, father is my question. I'm hoping their is some paper somewhere that can answer that question, just seemed to have avoided me; maybe it's my lack of reading Dutch!