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Re: Bonnici family (Malta>NYC USA)

pixiemyers — 2013-05-18 05:26:59Z

I am a daughter of Joseph Bonnici and I live in Australia Could you please contact me directly at my email address mpcurmi@hotmail.com as I am not a member of Ancestry.com.au and am using a friends subscription to do a search.

Mary

Re: GATT

ithaka11 — 2013-05-13 22:44:38Z

Dear Rachel,
Carmen Gatt was born Carmen Patiniott in Malta. She arrived in Australia 1949 with Assuero Patiniott,his wife Mary and his daughter Adelyn ,they too were born in Malta. Carmen I presume was Assueros sister. No name of husband, again I must presume she married in Malta and was a widow . As I live in Australia I obtained this info from passenger arrivals lists. I have all information of Assuero and family emigrating to the USA and the subsequent deaths of all in Los Angeles. Of Carmen no information. Perhaps she remarried in Australia? Another interesting fact is the same year 1949 eight other Patiniott's arrived in Australia.
I have no birth/marriage certificates for any of them.
I have tried to contact several Patiniott's in Malta,but none have replied.

Thanks,

Joe Patiniott

Re: GATT

ithaka11 — 2013-05-13 22:42:10Z

Re: GATT

rachelselway — 2013-05-13 07:42:13Z

Joe,
From my understanding of your post you are looking for a Patiniott family that emigrated to Australia?
What time they emigrated you do not say and what relation to the other family members Carmen is.
I am assuming that you have derived this information from the Maltese passport applications?
You also say that Carmen's married name was GATT.
What was her husbands name and when and where was she married? Malta or Australia.
They had one daughter Adelyn in Australia?
Do you have her birth certificate and if so have you checked her parents names on the certificate? Maltese have many given names and derivates are used, they also have been known to use one name and then another. If you have her certificate then you will have a better idea if they went by any other names.
You can then check immigration records to the US at that time period.
You also say that some of her family went to the US but you cannot find evidence of Carmen leaving Australia. Again I would look for her marriage to the GATT and any other children. If she married her children would have GATT as their surname - or perhaps you mean that GATT was her maiden name?
Perhaps it would help to clarify your information a little so advice can be given on where next to look.
All the best
Rachel Selway née Gatt

GATT

ithaka11 — 2013-05-13 07:25:25Z

Can anybody help.
In the 50's Carmen Gatt nee Patiniott born 4th November 1908 in Malta
She arrived in Australia with Assuero Patiniott,born 12-3-1908 Egypt? Malta?
Mary Patiniott born 23-10 1913 Egypt? Malta?and a daughter called Adelyn born in 1934. In 1955 Assuero and family migrated to the USA. The family line died with them.But I cannot find a trace of Carmen ever leaving Australia
Also in Australia I have a William Michael Patiniott,(last recorded date was 2004))Anthony Patiniott(last recorded date 1967)Denise May Patiniott (last recorded date 1977)I have checked passenger lists, directories, voters lists, nothing.
Regards,
Joe Patiniott

Tracing my father Edward George Bowyer son of Thomas H

pattilea1 — 2013-05-05 14:19:31Z

Hi
My father died in 1941 was in the Royal Artillery and buried at Selby in Yorkshire. I feel that we are related as my father was one of 11 and I have traced his parents. Was struggling to find the link with Malta but now have Maria Rita Maurin found on my father's birth certificate. Really interested to find out more and share my knowledge of the family. He was born RHA Barracks Pembroke. Met and married Winifred Newman while serving in India 1920s,had 4 children, 2 boys, 2 girls.

Alice Maud Lyne

pmlyne1 — 2013-04-18 18:45:35Z

Alice married Joseph Daws of Leicester and they had 2 children Horace and Alice. Joseph died in WW1 and on the Letchworth War Memorial site it says she was Alice Maud Stanimirovitch of Belgrade.There is no record of her marriage in the UK or when.We would like to find out what happened to her and the children.

Re: Busuttil/ Farrugia/Mellieha

hillies2 — 2013-04-11 03:35:15Z

Thank you. This information has helped me also.

Finding Family Psaila in Malta

Fpsaila — 2013-04-08 08:22:03Z

Looking For Details Gejtu Psaila IL Hacca Great soccor player. Wife is Maria Carmella Psaila lived in Hamrun.

Re: Zurrieq baker Pietro Agius & Catarina Tanti

AngAgius — 2013-04-05 06:57:27Z

Using http://archives.maltadiocese.org/ I have found Pietro & Catarina's marriage record :)

11/6/1854 in Zurrieq
Pietro was the son of Guiseppe Agius and Gaetana Di Nicola.
Caterina was the daughter of Laurenti Tanti and Anna(?) Falzon.

Zurrieq baker Pietro Agius & Catarina Tanti

AngAgius — 2013-04-02 08:05:36Z

Hi I am researching my husband's family tree. I would be grateful for information on Pietro & Caterina.

The great grandfather Pietro Agius was a baker in Zurrieq (9 Strada Brtannica) and was married to Catrina Tanti. We believe Pietro was alive in 1910.

They had at least 4 children;
Annie,
Benedict,
Giuseppe
Carmelo b1872 (hubby's Grandfather)

Carmelo Agius was a Super Inspector in the Malta Police Force and was awarded the Royal Victorian Medal. He married Maria Concepta Agius b1876. They had the following children;

Annetta,
Benedict, m Georgia, had 4 children
Carmelo, m Carmelina Agius, 1 child
Colina, m Edward Pillow, 6 children,
Giuseppe, m Giuseppina Fsandi, 5 children,
Maria, m Giuseppe Camilleria, 5 children,
Emmanuel (1900-1976) m Mary Victoria Vella, 6 children,
Peter Agius m Jane Grixti Soler,
Cateriina

Emmanuel was the father of my husband. He was a Notary and a Malta Member of Parliament. They lived in B'kira, Bishop Labini Street from memory.

Any help in taking this research further would be greatly appreciated,

Ang

Edward Finn born abt 1856 in Malta.

laa_edmondson1 — 2013-03-29 14:37:59Z

I am trying to trace a relative who was a British subject but born in Malta about 1856. He shows up in UK census in 1881 living in Southampton, Hampshire, but sadly dies in 1884 and only appears in that one census. I would like to find out about his family and where they came from. We tried to get information from the archives in Valetta last year but without success. Local parish record will contain information but we do not know the parish in which he was born. Can anyone help.

Re: Help with reading a name

sarahmj85 — 2013-02-25 21:19:31Z

Thank you very much!

Re: Azzopardi/Gatt

rachelselway — 2013-02-25 15:30:10Z

Hi Shanna,

If you are researching family then the best thing to do would be to start ordering a marraige certificate and then birth certificates.
They can be ordered online here
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/
They do post abroad.

If you are looking to connect with Maltese family you may have to look for another social media website - people on this website are usually descendants of Maltese immigrants who are looking to trace their Maltese family.
I am a Gatt, but my grandfather was born in Floriana, the youngest of 13 children.

If you need any more help let me know.

Regards
Rachel

Re: Busuttil/ Farrugia/Mellieha

rachelselway — 2013-02-25 15:25:47Z

And this is the website that has the church records
http://archives.maltadiocese.org/Archives.aspx

Melliaha is not on there, they are still microfilming everything in the vault before they begin moving onto the other parishes. So the best thing to do is to order certificates, this will enable you to do the direct line but not siblings - although if my memory serves me correctly death certificates list children.

Also bear in mind that a baby will be given several names and the parent will choose one name to call them by not always their first given name. And sometimes even that name interchanges.
So for instance I was working on a line last night and found two other children, the father was christened Raymondus Aloiysius Joseph Andreas but married as Andreas, on one of his childrens baptism records he was Joseph on the next child he was Andreas again. Lucky the mother was the same which was why I was able to spot them, missed them first time round because of the father's name change.
So just be aware that name are sometimes interchangeable.

Re: Busuttil/ Farrugia/Mellieha

rachelselway — 2013-02-25 14:16:32Z

The next step would be to order her birth certificate.
That would give you her parents, there are some parish records online but I don't think Melliaha is one of the ones that have been microfilmed.
This is the government website to order certificates - they do post abroad
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/default.aspx

Re: Busuttil/ Farrugia/Mellieha

rachelselway — 2013-02-25 14:16:32Z

Re: Help with reading a name

rachelselway — 2013-02-25 14:09:08Z

Joanna - it's abbreviated

Re: Testa Family

rachelselway — 2013-02-25 14:08:19Z

All government records are in Italian, church records are in Latin.
I'd have to pull out a certificate to be sure but I think they are in English and Italian - I know I could read them without any problem so I think they are in both.

Re: Testa Family

marymac34 — 2013-02-25 09:07:58Z

Hello thankyou for that.
Just out of interest would these certificates be in English or Maltese?

Help with reading a name

sarahmj85 — 2013-02-21 13:28:33Z

Hi

I have included a screen clip of the name of a female ancestor from a marriage record. Her last name is Mallia but I can't make out her first name. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Busuttil/ Farrugia/Mellieha

suzannevanderwalt — 2013-02-15 14:34:50Z

I have recently discovered my Great Grandmother was Francesca Busuttil, and Great Grandfather Andrea Farrugia according to the name given on the marriage cert of my grandmothers older sister. Both my Grandmother and her sister were born in Mellieha ( confirmed with the marriage cert). I have emailed the Parish church in Mellieha ( no response as yet ) to see if they could look at the baptismal records for my Grandmother Theresa Farrugia born February 19th 1910, hoping the record will give me further details as to who Andrea Farrugia and Francesca Busuttil Parents might be !
I have been unable to find a marriage for Andrea Farrugia and Francesca Busuttil so no luck there ! Anyone have any suggestions as to how to progress from here ?

Azzopardi/Gatt

ShannaRichey — 2013-02-05 19:06:54Z

Hello!

I am trying to do an intensive search of my Maltese ancestry and would greatly appreciate any connections or leads!!

My grandmother was Seraphina Azzopardi and her parents were Rosina and Joseph/Guiseppe James Azzopardi. Rosina's maiden name was Gatt and she had two siblings Antonia and Joseph Gatt. Rosina was born in Vittoriosa.

Both Rosina and Anotonia immigrated to America in the late 1920's, early 1930's, however we believe Joseph stayed behind and may have had a family of his own?

I am looking for any info on Rosina, Antonia and Joseph's parents--the Gatt's. Would love to connect with any family we may have there or otherwise!

Best Regards,
Shanna

Re: Research in Malto

rachelselway — 2013-02-05 02:11:53Z

No problem.

Re: Research in Malto

chiank1 — 2013-02-05 00:45:09Z

Thank you Rachel! I will pass this along to my friend. Chian

Re: Constantino Raymond Sacco

rachelselway — 2013-02-05 00:06:42Z

Hi Jayson,

If you are in receipt of the birth certificate then I guess the question is what do you want to do next?
If you are looking at tracing your line then I would suggest continuing to use the government website to order certificates. They go back to 1837. I can't remember off the top of my head what the birth certificate info would give you, whether they would have an age of parents. If you are tracing your line then I would try and look for his parents marriage certificate. Most marriages happened in the bride's parish.

They may be able to find the marriage certificate just from the names and the parish if you give an approximate marriage year. Sacco is not a common surname in Malta, unlike something like Borg, Pace is more common but the name Loius is also less common although Rosa is more common, so hopefully they can find the marriage and get a certificate.
That certificate will give you both sets of parents, occupation and age of bride and groom and where they were born which leads you nicely into ordering their birth certificates.

I've also heard that someone has transcribed the Adami Collection which is the collection of marriages from the late 1500's to late 1800's and it is on the internet.
I also have a copy at home on cd so I could trawl through and look for a marriage if you would like me to.
I guess that would be cheaper then ordering another certificate. Or you can search for the website online, I believe it's still in Italian.

Oh, and for Birkikara their parish records are online - this is the website.
http://archives.maltadiocese.org/

It's free to register and to use. Just create an account, sign in and look under 'Browse the Archives' then look for localities and Birkikara. Then the year, I'm not sure if it goes right up to the end of the 1800's but if it does you are in luck. You can find their marriage as well as any other siblings baptism and begin working back.

It is in Latin so if you need any pointers on how to read it or what words to look for let me know

Rachel

Re: Melita Mercieca

rachelselway — 2013-02-04 18:20:24Z

Hi Rachael,

Have you tried ordering any certificates?
It looks like you already have her marriage information.
You can order birth, marraige and death certificates on this website.
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/default.aspx

They post overseas.
If your purpose is family history these certificates do have a lot of information on like occupation, age etc. More then the British ones anyway.
You can order certificates back to 1837 the time of civil registration.

The Maltese government are also microfilming their records and putting them online. They only have a few parishes complete at this time but are working on eventually having all of them done. The website is
http://archives.maltadiocese.org/default.aspx

It's free to register and free to use. Love it!

Let me know if you need any more help.

I have also heard that someone has transcribed the Adami Collection which is a collection of marriages taken place from the late 1500's to late 1800's although they haven't translated them, but it's good enough. I also have a copy of the Adami Collection on cd at home, but prefer to use the archive website.

All the best
Rachel

Re: Research in Malto

rachelselway — 2013-02-04 18:15:00Z

Sorry Chian that no one answered your message in time.

If you go to Valletta you can go to the public records office, they have the Adami Collection there which has all the marriages that have taken place in Malta since late 1500's.
You can also visit the parishes and the priests will help you look at the records although they are only open certain days and times and are busy with parish business so good to contact them ahead of time.
If you are starting as early as grandparents then it is probably best to start by ordering birth, marriage and death certificates which go back to civil registration 1837.
This can be done on this website
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/default.aspx

They post overseas.
The Maltese government are microfilming the Maltese records and some parishes are now online although it will take many years to get all of the parishes done.
The website is
http://archives.maltadiocese.org/default.aspx
It's free to register and you just need to sign in each time to view the records.

If there is anything else I can help you with please let me know.

Rachel

Re: francis anthony armonziato pulis please help

rachelselway — 2013-02-04 18:09:20Z

Hi,
Do you know who his parents are?
I would try ordering a birth certificate or marriage if you know his wifes name and a marriage year and place.
Certificates can be ordered online
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/default.aspx

They do post overseas.
The Maltese government are also microfilming the church records and putting them online.
They haven't done Qwara so it may be a few years till they have that parish done, but all the parishes email addresses are now online. If you can get a birth date from a certificate then you can always email the parish priests and ask them to do a look up for you.

Let me know if you need any more help.
Rachel

Re: Testa Family

rachelselway — 2013-02-04 18:01:07Z

You can order Birth, marriage and death certificates from this website.
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/default.aspx

Everything is done online and they post overseas.

Re: Azzopardi and Barbaro in Malta/United States

rachelselway — 2013-02-04 17:52:51Z

Hi Tammy, I did trawl through first to see if I could find any more siblings earlier then her. I couldn't see any but only went back about three years (which should be sufficient but they may have had a bigger gap between children). Then I checked marriages from 1869 back and didn't see anything (although some pages I was being lazy and wasn't zooming in, just hoping to spot a Gatt and Borg together with my super laser eyesight (not!)). The good news was that I found a second marriage for one of my Gatt's, Francisca - so that doesn't help you but I felt good about it :-)

Actually, I probably should have gone through and picked out any Gatts because they would be useful to both of us.

So for the Birkikara records you will have to look at every page because there is no index.
Usually they have an index in the front or back and you can trawl through and just pick out the surnames - so for you, you would just have to have looked through really quickly for your two parents names together, noted the page number and found the record - simple. But because there is no index it means you have to go through every single page.
Which takes some time.
I'm working on the Cospicua records right now, so I go through the index, right down all the names with the surnames I am looking for and then go to the page numbers to see if they are the people I am looking for.
It's very time consuming but I just do a bit at a time and the more I do the more names I'm looking for.

They haven't microfilmed Floriana as yet. From my correspondence with them they say that the records in the vault will take about another 3 years and then they'll move onto microfilming the parishes.
So there will be more parishes on the website in the future, I'm just working through the parishes that are available.

If you do find someone let me know, I can help you read it if you need help.

all the best
Rachel

Re: Azzopardi and Barbaro in Malta/United States

tcatt2263 — 2013-02-03 17:36:26Z

WOW, what a name. That would be great if you have time to help on finding more information. I'm going to look into archives.maltadiocese.org
Thank you all your help.
Tammy

arnaud from tripoli

joycelawley54 — 2013-02-01 23:52:27Z

I am trying to trace more of my maternal great grandfather Guiseppe Arnaud. Married to Honorata Aqulina. He was killed Jan 20 1918 when the ship he was on The HMS Louvain was torpedoed somewhere in the Agean sea. On the Plymouth war memorial it states is parents were Carmelo and Catarina Arnaud(nee Aquilina) from Tripoli. I have a birth certificate stating that Joseph Arnaud was born in Valletta to Vincent Arnaud & Maria Darmanin. this is a great mystery to me any information would be greatly appreciated.

Re: arnaud from tripoli

joycelawley54 — 2013-02-01 19:23:20Z

Thanks for your input. The baptisim certificate I have where amongst my grandparents papers. On the back my grandfather wrote " Wife's father birth cerificate" The other information I have is from a letter sent to my g g grandmother upon my g g grandfathers( Guiseppe Arnaud) death. They also received the information from the Plymouth War memorial. I have requested a birth certificate with showing Carmelo & Catarina as his parents and they said there was no records. My mom Guiseppe's granddaughter said she remembered that he was born in Tripoli. I have their marriage certificate also showing that he was from Tripoli. He was with the Royal Navy and I have his service # but I can't get his service record.

Re: Testa

rachelselway — 2013-02-01 16:56:00Z

Hi,
You can order her birth certificate on this website:
https://secure2.gov.mt/certifikati/Birth.aspx

You pay online and they will post overseas. That will give you her exact birth date and parish where she was born. I believe it will also tell you her parents occupation as well as their names which of course you already have.

Then it depends on what you want to do next.

Hope that helps.
Good Luck
Rachel

Re: arnaud from tripoli

rachelselway — 2013-02-01 16:53:27Z

Hi,
The first thing you would need to do is to review your sources to decide which one is correct.
You can probably obtain his army records which should give you some information on him - which army was he serving for?
And then the question of the birth certificate. Where did you obtain the certificate from? If you ordered it, was the correct information given? It could be another Guiseppe Arnaud. Or it could be that on his army record he put his next of kin which may have been an uncle - Carmelo Arnaud and they assumed that those were his parents.
You could also try contacting the parish that he was baptised in - most of the Maltese parishes emails are online or you can write to them if that is preferred, if they have time and you have a correct birth date then it won't take them long to look up his baptism details.

Re: Birth in Malta

suzannevanderwalt — 2013-02-01 12:25:34Z

This does not give any additional info but his name is on this sitehttp://website.lineone.net under the index of Birth/baptism by Army Chaplains 1901-1925.

Good Luck !!

Re: Birth in Malta

suzannevanderwalt — 2013-02-01 12:18:08Z

Hello,

I had a quick look on Find my past and found this.

RICHARD W METCALFE
British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005

Collections from
United Kingdom
Country
MALTA

Year
1913 I do not have a subscription to this site, but you can purchase pay as you go credits, or maybe ask someone who has a subscription to look for you !

Re: Mellieha Baptism records 1910

suzannevanderwalt — 2013-02-01 11:28:57Z

Thank You !

Re: Micallef

rachelselway — 2013-02-01 05:55:16Z

Someone has already posted the government website and I think that is the best place to start. You can order birth marriage and death certificates from that website and they will post overseas. If you need any more help then keep posting. You can also email the parishes, all their email addresses are on the internet, if they have time they will look up a marraige or a baptism etc. Most of them have indexes in the parishes which makes it quite quick to look up.

Re: Mellieha Baptism records 1910

rachelselway — 2013-02-01 05:50:21Z

You would have to apply directly to the parish.
Most of the parishes email addresses are on the internet, if you email them and they have time they will do a look up for you.

Re: Azzopardi and Barbaro in Malta/United States

rachelselway — 2013-02-01 02:16:26Z

Sorry, I am so dizzy.
The Birkikara baptism records 1869 - 1877

Re: Azzopardi and Barbaro in Malta/United States

rachelselway — 2013-02-01 02:14:46Z

Hey I found her!!
I'm as excited as when I find someone from my family.
So here is what I found.
Her baptism was on 22 August 1869 in Birkikara and her full name was
'Maria Catharina Michaelina Philippa Carolina Josepha Helena Gatt'
Parents: Antonio Gatt and Emilia Borg both residing in this parish (Birkikara)
Godfather: Michael-Angelus Borg son of deceased Daniel and Godmother: Catherina (it says wife so I assume Michael-Angelus' wife as there is no surname for her)
Michael Angelus may be an uncle? Brother of Emilia.

Did you want me to see if I can find any other siblings? Or I could just look for a marraige for her parents. There is no index for the record that I was looking for, but if you want to look at it here is the link:
http://archives.maltadiocese.org/Archives/tabid/83/ProdID/55...

I don't know if it will work but if not it is in the Birkikara Baptism records enter page 13 and it is the first page right at the bottom.

Rachel

Re: Azzopardi and Barbaro in Malta/United States

tcatt2263 — 2013-02-01 01:41:08Z

Hi Racheal,
It is weird that you use the example with Catrina, because that is my daughters name. They were married on February 21 1889 in Sliema, he was 24 and she was 19. Ludgardo Azzopardi was born in Floriana and his parents was Carlo Azzopardi and Angiolina Xicluna.
Thank you for your help.
Tammy

Re: Thomas H. & Maria R. Maurin Bowyer family in Malta

carolmcdonagh1 — 2013-01-31 16:48:51Z

my grandmother is margaret helen

Re: Azzopardi and Barbaro in Malta/United States

rachelselway — 2013-01-31 01:48:18Z

Hi Tammy,
Yes it appears that certain names were interchangeable with their derivatives. So Patrina and Catrina for example. There are many weird and wonderful things that the Maltese seem to do with their naming system. Do you have any dates for their marriage record? It should give them an age when they were married. If you have their ages and a marriage year then I can look at the Birkikara records when I get home. I'm not sure what years they go up to but I can check and then give you some suggestions of where to go next if I can't find anything.
Rachel

Re: Azzopardi and Barbaro in Malta/United States

tcatt2263 — 2013-01-30 22:39:57Z

Hi Rachel,

Thank you so much and I am looking at my Great grandfathers and Great grandmothers marriage registry from Malta.
I thought my great grandfathers name was Richard or Riccardo but on this certificate it states Ludgardo Azzopardi, so I am thinking Ludgardo means Riccardo? and my great grandmother is Mary Gatt, so we might be related though my great grandmother...her birth place is Birkirkara Malta?? and her parents are Antonio Gatt and Emillia Gatt Nee' Borg. Thank you again hope to hear from you soon, I will keep you updated.

Tammy

Re: Leone-Enriquez family (Malta>CAN>NY)

sholmessiedle59 — 2013-01-27 05:57:54Z

Dear Bernadette,
My Grandfather was Arthur L-E, and married to a Margaret Zammit, I live in the UK, and still have relations in Malta that may help in giving you more information, my mother is 95, and she is one of Arthur L-E's daughter, she has a younger sister still in Malta, and I have several cousins, living there, I shall be pleased to hear from you.
my email is . sholmessiedle@yahoo.com
What was your father's name?
best wishes Susan

Re: Leone-Enriquez family (Malta>CAN>NY)

sholmessiedle — 2013-01-26 14:59:02Z

Dear Bernadette, we were looking up relations of my son's paternal ancestors and my mother said, look up my father, and her father was Arthur Leone-Enriquez, my mother is 95,and she has her younger sister of 90 still living in Sliema, and we were surprised to find your email ,in search of any relations that may help you in discovering more of your family, well we may be able to help, if not I have a cousin in Malta who might be able to help further in your enquiry!, I am quite excited, in discovering a cousin ? I knew we had relations, and actually we are in touch with, a couple of your grandather's deceased son John's offpring,who live nr NY.
I hope I hear from you beat wishes from Susan

my email sholmessiedle@yahoo.com

Mellieha Baptism records 1910

suzannevanderwalt — 2013-01-24 16:25:03Z

Does anyone have any idea where I might find the baptism records for the area and time period ?