Messina - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: RAO

NatalieBull1972 — 2013-05-11 13:05:01Z

I just learned a year and a half ago that I have 'Rao' relatives. My 2nd g-grandmother was Giuseppa Rao born 1855, she was the daughter of Giuseppe and Santa Rao (b:1812). Any relation?

Re: Rappazzo

NatalieBull1972 — 2013-05-11 12:55:33Z

Definitely must be related somewhere in the family tree, as Rao & Quattrochi are also part of my lineage. Rappazzo is a very common name in Castroreale, the Sicilian town of my grandparents and family.

Bertha J Rich (Bonrico)

nicimo66 — 2013-05-06 03:48:59Z

Hi!

My great Grandmother Bertha Bonrico was born in 1902 in Messina. She married Mathew Rich and moved to the United States. - I was looking for any information anyone might have on the Bonrico Family in Messina.

Thank you!

Maria LA Rosa Misano Masano? and Torre

mHeath37 — 2013-05-06 03:01:34Z

This is what I know. My mother's Last name was Torre Her Fathers was Pietro
Torre. His mothers Last name was Margaret lAnnelo Her husband also was Pietro Torre. This is where I get confused. My mother talks about a Grandma Maria La Rosa ( and a Grandpa Stephen or Gicamo Misano sp? masano? I have found something on Ellis island that show a First name: Maria Last name: Torre or Larosa Place of Ethnicity:Italian south Last place of Residence: Olivesi sicily Age of arrival gender: U Marital Status: U Ship of travel: Ancona Port of Departue: Palermo Manifest Line number 0018 . Date of arrival June 9 1913 I am trying to find the Torre Larosa and Misano sp or Mansano I don't know the spelling. Margaret.

Alioto,Iannello (Angelo),Torre,Camarda

mHeath37 — 2013-05-03 23:45:29Z

Marriage of Pietro Torre and Margherita Iannello
INDEX# 62
1888 June 9th in the town of Milazzo,Messina at 12:00 appeared Pietro Torre age 27 sailor born and residing in Milazzo son of Pietro Torre and deceased Maria Camarda married to Margherita Iannello age 25 cotton spinner born and residing in Milazzo daughter of Filippo Iannello and Gaetana Alioto
Italy, Messina, Messina, ...on (Tribunale), 1866-1939
Milazzo
Matrimoni 1888-1910....... Did Pietro Torre parents (Torre/Camarda) have anymore children? What were their names? Margherita Lannello, was Margherita Angelo here in the US
Image pg 43 of 1943

Re: Has anyone worked with the familysearch messina civil registrations? Not all pages are indexed yet..

Terrygiannetto — 2013-04-29 21:39:08Z

Thanks for the input! Yes, I now have many pages (handwritten so far) that have created an index of page number and village represented by many of the birth and marriage data files.
For any family members of note in my specific villages, I have made additional notes, and saved copies of the registers.
The data is fabulous, and I find that many birth records also indicate the later marriage date...which is a great way to expand your search.
Slow and painstaking, true, but worth it. I intend to put my 'index' out here on the board for folks that may be interested in searching the files at a later date.

Re: Has anyone worked with the familysearch messina civil registrations? Not all pages are indexed yet..

bdimatteo138 — 2013-04-29 12:53:15Z

Terry-

I spent months going through these page by page and placing records related to my surnames into an Excel spreadsheet with notes that probably only I can decipher. This does allow me to sort the names, and then manually go through and find the family links. When in the trenches, I remembered names as I went through. I had to walk away from it for a few months as I too was going a bit crazy. There is no easy way to do it, but the information is invaluable and well worth the time.

Guargena - geneology help

oemjohn — 2013-04-28 15:48:35Z

The last record I can find is for Domenico Guargena in the 1600's who moved to Messina, he was a Capucine Friar, see link. My father (deceased) had told me the family was from just outside Palermo. Looking for any help. Guargena is a hard surname to track from on line resources.

www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/feliciano-da-messina_%28Diziona...

www.comune.barcellona-pozzo-di-gotto.me.it/ecm/?9668=126&...

Thanks for your help!

Pusateri

Lawrence_Kate — 2013-04-19 05:32:51Z

Pusateri

Ignazio (b. 1850), wives Margarita Magri or Ninfia Salvia

Sons - i believe all immigrated to the Boston, Ma area

Alfred (b. 1882)
Guiseppe (b. 1885)
Salvatore (b. 1885)
Ignazio (b. 1889)

Daughters

Anna (b. 1877)
Maria (b. 1881)

Sant' Agata is listed as some of their birth places. i've heard a lot about the Messina area of Termini Imerese.

I have more information, but this should be a good start. Anything would be appreciated!

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

jarnao1 — 2013-04-15 00:35:58Z

Barbara
I have totally lost track of what I told you before on this posting. Blame old age & tax time !!
Please contact me via Email at jarnao@prodigy.net with your family info again.
Ciao John

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

copout19 — 2013-04-14 19:35:39Z

Hello John, yes all mentioned are my relatives. Any information you have on them would be appreciated.

Barbara

Has anyone worked with the familysearch messina civil registrations? Not all pages are indexed yet..

Terrygiannetto — 2013-04-05 01:46:27Z

It turns out much (or all?) of the Village data for Messina is not indexed yet...but you can look at the scanned pages.

So, I've found a few records by paging through, looking for my village name, and the dates I need. Never knew till now just how many villages there are in Messina provice - wow! So...you go stir crazy just paging thru, about 10-15 pages at a time, so you don't miss a small village of births for a year. If you happen upon the right page range, you're in luck..but painful process when the files run about 2700 pages each!

My question is..has anyone found a way to work with this data in the raw, before it's indexed? I started to note page numbers and which village/year were on them...thinking that publishing that might help the next searcher. Do you know if anything like that exists already?
Here is a what I'm looking at:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23863-49083-24...

Messina is indexed....Villagi are not. (or are partially done) thx!

Re: Andrew Bonanno

Terrygiannetto — 2013-03-28 14:01:30Z

Hi..I see this is a very old request, so you may have found your info already.

However, I have one reference to a Bonnano.

Santa Bonnano married Giuseppe La Colla. ( don't have the bmd dates, they are mentioned only on daughters marriage record) They had Pietronilla La Colla about 1863. She went on to marry Stellario Tortorella (around 1883) and had 7 children with him, from 1883-1902. She came to US in 1905 as a widow.

She married Giuseppe Genovese in 1907 in Boston. (In this record, you will see mention of mother, Santa Bonnano) They had at least another three children from 1907 to 1911

Our direct relative is her son, Giuseppe Tortorella, b feb 1895 in St Stefano Medio, Messina.

Hope that helps -- and if you find our Bonnano has sibling/parent info..please let me know too!
Terry

How to find names of Baron/Baroness in 1910 Messina area?

Terrygiannetto — 2013-03-28 13:47:24Z

I have two relatives that met and married through their service of a Baron & Baroness in Messina. He was the coachman, she was the ladys maid to the Baroness. They are the great g-parents of my husband. A 90 year old aunt just retold this story about her parents yesterday..but although she is sharp as a wit, and has a great memory, the names of the B's still escape her.

The relatives are Giuseppe Tortorella, b Feb 1895 and Giuseppa Coletta, b 10Jul 1888. (She, apparently spent her childhood in a convent in Messina, and the Baroness 'found' her there and brought her into her household) Also, this may very well be in the Santa Stefano, Medio area, since that is where both of these people were born.

Any pointers on how to figure out who they were in service with would be appreciated!

San Piero Patti (Messina/Sicily)

jessicavercelli — 2013-03-28 02:46:07Z

my names Jessica Vercelli and Im looking for other Vercellis. my dad was born in San Piero Patti. but left with his family when he was 4.
if you are a Vercelli too or have any relations to the last name Vercelli or San Piero Patti please contact me : slimjessie@hotmail.com

Jessica Vercelli

PS Ive been to San Piero once and it was so lovely there! =)

Re: Mannuccia Family from Falcone, Messina, Sicily

kbjuda — 2013-03-27 01:48:38Z

Sto cercando informazioni sulla famiglia Mannuccia originaria di Falcone, Sicilia. Babbo Mannucia (n. 1 novembre 1894), era mia nonna. Suo padre era Giacchino Mannucia e sua madre era Sebastiana (Bastiana) Frandina. Babbo venuto negli Stati Uniti nel 1927. Suo marito (mio nonno) era Giovanni Baglione.

Sto cercando sibings possibili per Santa Mannucia e ulteriori informazioni su Giacchino Mannucia. Ha avuto fratelli e sorelle? chi erano i suoi genitori? Qualsiasi aiuto sarebbe molto apprezzato.

Re: Mannuccia Family from Falcone, Messina, Sicily

desimone_chiara — 2013-03-26 20:30:37Z

ciao mi chiamo mannuccia francesco mio nonno si chiamava mannuccia francesco e vissuto a falcone provincia di messina sicilia italia cosa desideri sapere di piu?

Re: Andrew Bonanno

Macdenny — 2013-03-23 18:35:47Z

Have you tried Familysearch.org?

Re: Sinagra, Italy

joeyweyler — 2013-03-22 19:32:43Z

Hi Charlie. I noticed you said you have records from Sinagra. If I were to send you a couple of names, would you be able to help me with some info?

Thanks!

Joey

You can email me direct at jhweyler@gmail.com

Re: Paino

BeckyRainey1976 — 2013-03-20 11:23:26Z

Jilde, trying again for contact with you.

Re: Paino

BeckyRainey1976 — 2013-03-20 11:21:51Z

Hi Jilde!
we are definetly related. Antoinette Paino Manlio is my great grandmother.
please reply !

Le famiglie di Triolo o Caminiti in Messina, Sicilia, Italia

JEHolcomb — 2013-03-19 14:59:21Z

Cerco relativo concernento i miei nonni: Triolo di Elena, nato il 21 aprile, 1929 e Carmelo Caminiti, nato Febbraio. 7, 1937. Credo che siano cresciute Messina prossimo e loro figlia: Il Gracia Maria Caminiti era nato in Messina il 12 aprile, 1956. (È mia madre ed è immigrato agli Stati Uniti con sua madre in 1958 a 2 anni.) Il mio Carmelo di nonno è immigrato qui in 1956. Il mio Elena di nonna ha avuto un fratello gemello dal nome di Carmene Triolo e credo un altro fratello dal nome di Guiseppe Triolo. I suoi nomi di genitori erano Francesco e Natalie Triolo. Le informazioni sarebbero grandi. Ho voluto aggiungere questo appena che il mio Guiseppe di zio della madre è stato sposato a Teresa Rascona che ha vissuto in Mandanici. Mia madre era nata nell'area di Mandanici di Messina. Credo che Teresa abbia vissuto a Via Provinciale Badia 1, in Casalvecchio Siculo. Il Guiseppe e Teresa hanno avuto una figlia dal nome di Adele Carmela Triolo. Ho un'immagine del suo ha ricevuto Riva di di di Teresa di Santa.

Triolo or Caminiti families in Messina, Sicily, Italy

JEHolcomb — 2013-03-19 14:17:09Z

I'm looking for relatives related to my grandparents: Elena Triolo, born April 21, 1929, and Carmelo Caminiti, born Feb. 7, 1937. I believe they grew up near Messina and their daughter: Gracia Maria Caminiti was born in Messina April 12, 1956. (She is my mother and she immigrated to the US with her mother in 1958 at the age of 2.) My grandfather Carmelo immigrated here in 1956. My grandmother Elena had a twin brother by the name of Carmene Triolo, and I believe another brother by the name of Guiseppe Triolo. Her parents names were Francesco and Natalie Triolo. Any information would be great. I just wanted to add to this that my mother's uncle Guiseppe was married to Teresa Rascona who lived in Mandanici. My mother was born in Mandanici area of Messina. I believe Teresa lived at Via Provinciale Badia 1, in Casalvecchio Siculo. Guiseppe and Teresa had a daughter by the name of Adele Carmela Triolo. I have a picture of her taken in Santa Teresa di Riva.

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

robert_ruggeri — 2013-03-11 11:03:53Z

Your welcome. Sorry I coulnd't help.

Bob

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

copout19 — 2013-03-10 22:22:26Z

Hello John...yes, Francesco and Flavia are my Grandparents. I have very little information on them and never knew them since they were deceased before I was born. Santo Bertino was Francesco's Father, I am told. But I have no confirmation on that. Francesco and Flavia did have a son, named Santo and he died at age five. If you have any information on any of them, I would love to hear from you. Thanks so much for your response!!

Barbara

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

jarnao1 — 2013-03-10 21:19:35Z

Barbara

I recognize the names you cite in your posting.

Are you related to these folks ??

John arnao

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

copout19 — 2013-03-10 20:16:33Z

Thanks so much for the reply.......

Barbara

Re: previte

dgprevite — 2013-03-09 16:11:44Z

yes, be patient you will find an answer and run with it only to find out that two pieces are very close. Be thorough. I have a person who can get copies of birth and any other certificate in Sicily. He is listed on the web and does a fantastic job. He is very helpful as well. Please send me an email.

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

robert_ruggeri — 2013-03-09 10:34:56Z

Hi Barbara,
Sorry to say their are no Bertino's in my family tree, nor is Peter a relation. Good luck on your research.
Bob Ruggeri

Re: San Pier Niceto, Messina

dgprevite — 2013-03-06 14:00:09Z

My name is David G. Previte. I am the grandson of Francisco Frederico Previte from San pier Nicetro, Messina, Sicily.
I would greatly appreciate a phone book or any data you could provide. Please respond and we can exchange numbers

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

copout19 — 2013-03-05 07:59:04Z

Hello....I too, am searching Bertino family from Philadelphia. My interest is in Francesco (Frank) Bertino born in Sicily about 1884. He married in Philadelphia in 1905 to Flavia (Florence) Pino born in Sicily about 1887. Francesco had a brother Antonio and two sisters, Angelina, married Peter Ruggeri and Sarah, married a Pino. I am told that their Father was Santo Bertino. I do not have much information on any of these people and it has been difficult to research. If you have any information on this line, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks so much,
Barbara Obermeier

Re: information on family (Bertino / Repici family )

copout19 — 2013-03-05 07:58:27Z

Re: San Fratello

lauraon — 2013-02-23 00:37:18Z

Cousin jack,
Did you get a reply from me?

Re: San Fratello

laurenpetteys — 2013-02-23 00:19:03Z

Many family members came from San Fratello with the following last names:Lo balbo ,Franchina,Mondello, Calderone,Calcaterra, Porcelli. Am looking for family in Sicily or anywhere.

Salvatore (b ca 1845) or Francesco Cardullo (b circa 1863)

amov00 — 2013-02-18 01:26:51Z

I am descended from Cardullo's on my paternal, maternal side. My grandmother's names was Giovanna Cardullo (b Providence, RI), but her Father was a merchant who went back and forth with his family. I belive her father's (Francesco) father was Salvatore Cardullo. The name Gaetana belongs to my great aunt.

My great grandmother's mother was named Antonia or Antonetta Gaurnera (she did not take the name Cardullo according to passenger lists at Ellis Island)- I think she married Salvatore's son Francesco Cardullo and they settled in Providence and later Polk Cty FLA

Do you know anything about these families?

Re: Bartolo Favaloro and Nunziata Picone

purrfectmeow — 2013-02-15 23:24:43Z

Giovanni_MONTANTI it says you replied to this and my Joseph Abbo and Josephine Congelosi topic but I can't see either post?

Re: Moschella/Ruggeri families Santa Teresa di Riva

adamico12 — 2013-02-15 19:28:24Z

Hi Bill, this is Anthony, MaryAnns father. I'm not able to I'll up your tree. We are still interested in any info related to Filomena Damico, the one who was married to Dominic Malvezzi.

Re: Surname IRRERA from Messina

mHeath37 — 2013-02-13 01:43:12Z

Do you have any picture? I have a picture of Irrera Geatano sp? Irrera

Re: Bartolo Favaloro and Nunziata Picone

psisario — 2013-02-11 16:49:19Z

I may have some info on these two. Please contact me at the following email: italiandocuments@gmail.com

Bartolo Favaloro and Nunziata Picone

purrfectmeow — 2013-02-10 11:16:52Z

Looking for any info on my great grandparents Bartolomew and Nunziata Favaloro. Particularly I would like to find out who their parents were. Nunziata's maiden name was Picone and they came together from Italy sometime in 1910 and lived in Ontario, Canada. Bartolomew was born in Lipari, Italy around 1880 and Nunziata was born around 1886.

Re: Surnames: DeFrancesco, Cordima, Bellitti, Bellotta, Arico, Succo,Fauci, Vitale just to name a few?

jcasey411 — 2013-02-09 17:18:59Z

My Bellitti family immigrated to Boston, Ma. I don't know if any of my ancestors settle in New York? I cant' find a connection to the other surnames you listed, but will do further research, Bellitti is the only name in common.

Re: Surnames: DeFrancesco, Cordima, Bellitti, Bellotta, Arico, Succo,Fauci, Vitale just to name a few?

karenres — 2013-02-09 00:20:06Z

What would you like to know about the Bellitti's? My father was an only child but his father had 2 sisters Anna and Jennie. They were born in Santa Ninfa, Sicily and immigrated to New York.

Re: Surnames: DeFrancesco, Cordima, Bellitti, Bellotta, Arico, Succo,Fauci, Vitale just to name a few?

karenres — 2013-02-09 00:03:51Z

I am a Bellitti but I don't know any of the other names you have listed here. I am looking for connections to Bellitti and Giacalone as well as Bellitti and Farbizio.

Re: Surnames: DeFrancesco, Cordima, Bellitti, Bellotta, Arico, Succo,Fauci, Vitale just to name a few?

karenres — 2013-02-08 23:48:58Z

My father was John Joseph Bellitti son of Joseph John Bellitti ( born in Santa Ninfa,Italy in 1905), son of Giovanni Bellitti. I do not have Giovanni's birth record but he was married in Santa Ninfa in 1902 to Francesca Giacalone. Does any of that relate to you?

Re: Midili, Carilli Family from Messina, Italy

rmidili — 2013-01-31 04:52:01Z

Thank you Walt. This is very helpful

Re: Midili, Carilli Family from Messina, Italy

wrickett6224 — 2013-01-30 14:26:44Z

rmidili
ran across your post and took a look.i am not related to your family.the ww1 reg.for antonio says born 3 july 1876
but his application for naturalization(1910) says he is born 3 july 1877.here is the compiled info.:
antonio midili,laborer,ht.-5 ft.,complexion-dark,hair-black
eyes-brown,wt.-130lbs.
born-3 july 1877 at monforte/menforte(CORRECT NAME IS MONFORTE SAN GIORGIO,MESSINA,SICILY,ITALY)
resides at 310 first st.,carnegie,pa.
arrived 13 may 1900;s.s.manilla
wife- giuseppa
4 children born carnegie(at this time)
joseph born 9 june 1902
fortunato born 2 jan.1904
francesca born 2? oct.1906
giovanina born 24 june 1909
giuseppa, his wife arrived in 1901 with her brother biagio
and were from the close by(to monforte)village of san pier
niceto,messina,italy.
good luck on your family research.....walt

Re: Midili, Carilli Family from Messina, Italy

rmidili — 2013-01-30 02:48:48Z

Joe and Alice Midili were my grandparents and Arnold was my uncle. My dad is Aldo and my name is Russell. I too am looking for information and in particular my great grandparents.

Re: Mugavero and Siragusa families of Tusa

mlpaxton1 — 2013-01-29 18:58:35Z

If you aearch through the Google News Archive, you will find some articles about the Mugaveros in The Day's archives. Not all of their back issues have been digitalized, so you may have to browse through the issues they do have page by page. Here is the url for one article I found: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mpErAAAAIBAJ&sjid=b... . I hope it works. The story is titled "Mugavero may be lost to Huskies" and is dated May 6, 1938.

Looking back in the Ellis Island records, I found another possible address for Antonio Mugavero in Sicily. When Francesca Siragusa and her son, Antonino came over on April 15,1909, she said that her father-in-law "Mugavero, Antonio" lived at "(North) Valvusa". I can't find any such town in Sicily; I'm probably misreading it. How lucky you are to be in contact with family back in Italy! I hope she is able to sort this all out.

This morning we had a very New England snowfall. When I was very small, my father was stationed at the submarine base in Groton. We lived on Highland street in New London for a few years, then moved to Groton once the Navy built housing. It is such a coincidence that both our families lived so close!

Best wishes,
Margaret

Re: Mugavero and Siragusa families of Tusa

aimeefador — 2013-01-29 13:34:51Z

It is so nice to meet you and Serenitie, as well :)...although I have never met her Mom Chantell or Greg, I have had the pleasure of meeting Floyd...his sister's Francis and Beverly I have grown up with (although much older--Francis lives with my Aunt Con' who has always lived in the same house as my grandparents...and I grew up with Bev and her 4 boys, namely the youngest Michael)...I can remember 2 times Floyd and his wife (God Rest Her Soul) making the trip back to the east coast, well--once with his wife and one time without...he was always so very sweet and close with my Poppy aka Fedele aka Dates :)...I also knew Floyd, Bev' and Fran's brother Tony and his wife Marie. Sadly Tony just passed--he was a great man...despite being on the West Coast, he made a lasting impression on me in the few times we met...we shared many laughs when he was in CT...famiglia is just so important!!!
As for my grandfather, I'm sure there are many articles about him--never in my life have I met someone so educated, kind and respected than he was. His name still carries great value in the city of New London even years after his passing! I am simply proud and honored to be his granddaughter!!! I was told his nickname came from a childhood friend's mother--when he was at their house playing, they would always snack on dates which was one of his favorites as a kid--she jokingly called him that one day and it stuck...stuck to the point that that was what was on his license plate, etc...A few members of the family I can remember called him Uncle Daily, as well--short for Fedele...to me, he was my Poppy :)...I would love to see some of the articles about him if you have the links etc...I have some actual articles directly related to his academic accolades and athletic achievements, as well. He played both baseball and basketball at the University of Connecticut.
I saw that address in your original post--that is beyond neat and I am in contact with family we have in Sicily right now--although she does not live in Tusa, she will be visiting there soon when another one of my cousins travels there next year...I will run this address by them to see if this house still stands...
I have to get my son off to preschool but, quick fun fact...standing on one of the main roads in New London is a big statue of Christopher Columbus (the base of the statue reads Columbo)...it was our family who put that statue there. Not sure what year it was placed there but so neat that a recognized New London landmark was put there by our relatives! Gives me a sense of pride whenever I drive by it...
I would love to keep in touch--if I learn of anything more I will def. share--I would so appreciate it and love for you to do the same!!!
And although I love the New England weather--I love love snow and cold--always have said if I could tan from snow I would be all set lol, but soaking in the sunshine and what I can picture as a beautiful and fragrant breeze--filled with scents of citrus in Tusa and other beautiful parts of Sicily sounds like pure perfection to me!!! Some day....

Love, Aimee

Re: Mugavero and Siragusa families of Tusa

mlpaxton1 — 2013-01-29 00:12:53Z

It is wonderful to meet you! My granddaughter is Serenitie Marie Beall-Mugavero the daughter of Chantell Marie Mugavero who is the daughter of Greg Mugavero who is the son of Floyd Mugavero who is the son of Antonio Mugavero, your grandfather's oldest brother.

So far I've been able to follow the Mugavero family through census records, passenger lists and city directories. I've just started to look into newspaper stories. There are losts of stories about your grandfather! Do you how he got the nickname 'Dates'?

I too dream of visiting Tusa. Especially now. I live in Idaho where it has been bitterly cold and overcast for the past month. Springtime in Sicily sounds wonderful!

The most intriguing bit of information I have found is an address in Tusa for Antonio Mugavero's father, also named Antonio. It is Via Tui Sella Mgna 23 and is in Antonio's brother Natale's immigration records. I don't know if I've read it correctly.

It's a pleasure to hear from you, as well,
Margaret