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Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 12 Jun 2013 5:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Deshcamps
Hi Katie,

I agree with Susie. Someone researching our Deschamps family connected Isaac Deschamps without any proof (as far as I can tell.) Also, there is no proof that the Jean Deschamps b. 1690 is any relation to your/our family either. I say 'our' family because Augustin Deschamps was born to Nicolas Joseph Deschamps and Judith Doiron in Nova Scotia. Nicolas Joseph Deschamps (known as Joseph Deschamps) was born 1710 in St. Martin, Il-de-Re, France and immigrated to Canada in the early 1730s/late 1720s. The Deschamps name changed to so many variations upon the deportation of the French from Canada in the 1750s. You may have figured all this out over the past year, but thought I would add my 2 cents. Nicholas Joseph Deschamps is my 7x great grandfather. Cheers

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 28 Apr 2014 4:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: DESCHAMPS, Pigues, Pegus
Hi,
I am a new entry for you, probably in the Isaac Deschamps line. I have a g-g-g-g-g-grandmother/aunt, who was Marthe Suzanne DESCHAMPS, who married Peter PIGUES in St. Anne's, Soho, London, in 1724. PIGUES is a wrong spelling for PEGUS, who have a very strong Huguenot line. The earliest PEGUS to the UK was said to have been a Jean PEGUS, who came in around 1685, possibly to Ireland first. I have always felt that Marthe Suzannah was also Huguenot, as Huguenots married each other in this era.
I have never known who Marthe Susannah's parents were, but have always suspected they were Isaac and Suzanne Regnier/Regne. Reasons for this are: a Marthe REGNE (note similarity of spelling to your Regnier) was godmother to several of the children of this marriage, suggesting a close relationship to my Marthe Susannah DESCHAMPS. Pierre & Francois Deschamps were also godparents to other children of this marriage. One of the PIGUES/DESCHAMPS children was an Isaac PIGUES/PEGUS, indicating I think, a connection to the Isaac Deschamps line, as parents of this era tended to name their children after their parents etc.

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 28 Apr 2014 11:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello and thank you for your posting.

I know that Isaac Deschamps and Suzanne Regnier had a daughter called Suzanne in London in 1700. I wonder if this is your Marthe Suzanne Deschamps?? Can you tell me what children Marthe and Peter had and dates and places of Christenings please..
I will look into it further. As you say, the names are interesting. Isaac and Suzanne are my Great x 8 Grandparents.
Best Wishes, Susie

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 29 Apr 2014 3:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pegus, Deschamps
Hello Susie,
Many thanks for your reply. I list the following information for you. By the way, where do you live? I'm in Australia.
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Pegus; very likely, because at St. Anne, Soho, London, I saw the original register, and
This read: Peter Pigues married Martha Susanna Deschamps 7.6.1724 at St. Anne’s
Soho, London, UK.] Note: IGI mis-spells this as ‘PIQUES” Peter’s correct
surname spelling, as may be gauged by the spelling of all their children, should have
been PEGUS.

Their children included the following: (note multiple similar Christian names, indicating, I believe, deaths of the child with the earlier name). I don't have my formal records with me to check the church of their baptisms, but from memory, every single one of them were baptised at St. Anne's, Soho, London - the same church where the parents were married. In contrast, all their cousins were baptised at St. Martin in the Fields, also in London.
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PEGUS, Isaac, 1739: son of Pierre and Marthe; godmother = Marie Pegus; born
31.8.1739; baptised 10.9.1739. [Huguenot Society publication volume 29 p156]
[Similar entry in All England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-
1970]
PEGUS, Jean Thomas, 1725: born 9.3.1725; baptised 21.3.1725; son of Pierre and
Marthe; Godmother = Ruth des Champs; godfather = Jean Pegus. [volume 30, pp
32 Huguenot Society publication]
PEGUS, Louise, 1741: born 8.8.1741; baptised 30.8.1741; daughter of Pierre and
Marthe Susanne; baptised by Mr. Jean Blanc, minister of this church. Godparents = own
parents. [Huguenot Society publication volume 29 p159]
PEGUS, Marie Ann, 1727: Born 8.2.1727; baptised 14.2.1727; daughter of Pierre and
Martha [volume 30 pp 33 Huguenot Society publication]
PEGUS, Marie, 1731: born /baptised 1731, London, UK: child of Pierre Pegus and
Marthe Susanne;
PEGUS, Marthe, 1734: born 23.3.1734; baptised 15.4.1734 at Westminster, Middlesex,
London; daughter of Pierre and Marthe; godparents = Pierre Deschamps +
Marthe Regne [volume 32 pp 36 Huguenot Society publication]
[Similar entry in All England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
results for Pigus, via Ancestry database in 2013] But here, states godparents = François
Deschamps and Marthe Régné.
PEGUS, Nicolas / Nicholas, 1742: born 23.1.1742/3; baptised 28.1.1742-43; son of
Pierre and Marthe. Godfather = Pierre Pegus; godmother = Marthe Pegus.
[Huguenot Society publication volume 29 p ?148; 160]
[Similar entry in All England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-
1970]
PEGUS, Pierre, 1728: born 27.4.1728 at London; baptised 28.4.1728; son of Pierre
and Marthe; godfather = Pierre Deschamps; godmother = Judith Pegus. [volume
30 pp 34 Huguenot Society publication]
[Similar entry in All England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
results for Pigus, via Ancestry database in 2013]
PEGUS, Pierre, 1730: born / baptised 1730; son of Pierre Pegus and Marthe Susanne;
PEGUS, Pierre, 1732: born 27.10.1732; baptised 28.10.1732; son of Pierre and Marthe
[volume 30 pp 36 Huguenot Society publication]
PEGUS, Pierre, 1733: [sic] born 27.10.1733; baptised 28.10.1732; son of Pierre and
Marthe [volume 30 pp 36 Huguenot Society publication]
Baptised 28 April 1733, child of Pierre: [This entry in All England & Wales, Non-
Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 results for Pigus, via Ancestry database in
2013]




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REIGNIER, Martha, 1737: a child; of Litchfield Street; was buried on 18 March 1737
at St. Anne, Soho, Middlesex, London.. [ex Westminster Burials – transcripts;
Westminster Archives]
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Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 29 Apr 2014 6:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for all that info... There must be a connection!!! Just need to find it.
I was born in London and now live in The Midlands of England near Birmingham.
Where in Australia are you?

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 30 Apr 2014 4:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello again Susie,

I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.

Susie, I notice that you have Isaac as having died in 1820. No mention of a death date for Suzanna.

Do you have any other details about either of their deaths? e.g. where they died; if they made a Will etc?

Glenys

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 13 May 2014 7:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Deschamps, Regnier, Montellier
Hi again, Susie.
I went through my Deschamps files last night. In them, I have bits of papers of notes I made when I visited the Huguenot Society Library in London in 1983. In ?Dr. Wagner's handwriting, I found the following line: Susannah Regnier married Isaac Deschamps. Then beside this marriage, there was a line drawn horizontally to Joseph Montellier. This implies to me, that Susannah Deschamps may have re-married, after Isaac died, to Joseph Montellier. I know you said Isaac died in 1720, but I have been unable to find any record of his death. Do you have it?

Regards,
Glenys

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 14 May 2014 7:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Glenys,
I cannot remember where I got Isaac's 1720 death from just now. ...

I do not know if Suzanne Reignier Deschamps remarried after Isaac died.. However, Isaac and Suzanne had a Granddaughter , also Suzanne Deschamps, my Great x6 Grandmother, and it was she who married Joseph Montellier in 1755 at St James, Picadilly.

Have you been in touch with Dr Kathy Chater at all, a distant relative of mine and a mine of information!

Keep in touch, Susie

Re: Isaac DESCHAMPS b.1666 Civray, Poitou m. Suzanne REGNIER

Posted: 15 May 2014 5:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again Susie,
Thanks for that info about the Joseph Montellier connection.
As I cannot find any death records of my Marthe Suzanne Deschamps who married my Pierre Pigues in 1724, and I cannot find Isaac Deschamps death records of ~1720, I feel a little frustrated, But it is good to clear up the Montellier part.

I have a notation on an official British government document that states quite clearly that my Peter Pigues/ Pegus (and hence Marthe Suzanna Deschamps Pegus, his wife) was living somewhere overseas (overseas from England) in about 1742, and perhaps Suzanna died there. I wonder if Isaac was also overseas at about that time.

I have a record of a Pierre Pegus re-marrying in Ireland in 1750 to Rachel Smith, also a widow. This may or may not be the same Peter who married my Marthe Susannah Deschamps in 1724, though it seems quite likely that it was.

No, I have never been in touch with Dr. Kathy Chater, and do not know her contact details etc. I wonder if she knows anything of my Marthe Susannah. Would you be prepared to pass on my query to her?

Kind regards,
Glenys
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