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Philibert Antignac 1721

Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 16 Feb 2014 4:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Antignac, D'Antignac
Looking for any information on the Antignac family referred to in this entry from Historical memorial of the nobility:
"Family of Lorraine, from Brive, in Limousin, who was ennobled March 4, 1721, in the person of Philibert Antignac, Knight of the Royal Order of Military at St. Louis, captain Royal regiment abroad, in consideration its valeuret his good behavior."
Thank you for your time and assistance.
Brenda Austin Mason

Re: Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 16 Feb 2014 9:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
I don't know if you have seen the attached so I thought I would post it anyway.

It is located in a book: Nobiliaire ou armorial general de la Lorraine et du Barrois en forme de dictionnaire; ou se trouvent les armes gravees et envirannees de ... cartouches, et mises a cote de chacun des articles qui les concernent
page 9.

This is the link, but I'm not sure it will work.

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Re: Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 16 Feb 2014 9:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: D'Antignac, Antignac
Thanks for the information! I have seen a part of this, but I did not have the information of Philbert's spouse. Now if I could just find out information on any children they may have had and see if there is any link to my grandfather, it would be WONDERFUL!

Thank you again and best of luck with your research.

Re: Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 16 Feb 2014 10:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 16 Feb 2014 11:55PM GMT
Also from from google books


Metz, documents généalogiques, armée, noblesse, magistrature, haute bourgeoisie, d'après les registres des paroisses, 1561-1792

http://books.google.com/books?id=Rv4aAAAAYAAJ
page 11.

Some of the children of Philbert and Catherine

I should emphasize that this seems to be only some of their children, apparently those born in Metz. Who are you looking for?
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Re: Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 17 Feb 2014 1:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Judging from the dates of children's births, it seems more likely my grandfather, if he is a descendant of Philbert, would be his grand or great grandson.

Louis Charles Jean Baptist D'Antignac, born Aug 18 1748, possibly Auvergne. He came to America from Martinique in the spring of 1776. He presented a "memorial" to the Continental Congress in Philadelphia offering his services to the new American government. This is the only information we have that gives clues to his life before coming to America.

"MEMORIAL OF THE CHEVALIER D'ANTIGNAC.

To the honourable the Delegates from the STATES OF AMERICA, in Congress assembled:

The Memorial of the Chevalier D'ANTIGNAC humbly showeth:

That your memorialist takes the liberty of offering his services for raising a regiment of Light-Horse. No military person is ignorant of the utility of such troops, either for a coup-de-main, for obtaining intelligence, or for surprising an enemy; in short an army unprovided of such troops must be exposed to many hazards and inconveniences.
The knowledge I have in this part of the service induces me to make the following proposal to the honourable Congress; and if they will place so much confidence in me, I flatter myself my conduct will be approved of. Should it be agreeable to the honourable Congress to raise a regiment of Light-Horse, I will undertake to teach the men to ride, exercise and perform all the necessary evolutions in three months; or should a regiment not be approved of at present, I will undertake to do the same with a company of fifty men, flattering myself the Congress will honour me with the rank of Colonel.
I have had the honour of serving in the King of France's First Company of Musketeers, and it is well known that the King frequently grants regiments to those musketeers who can afford the expense, as that corps consists of the first nobility. But my circumstances did not permit me to arrive at that honour, as supporting the rank of a Colonel in France is attended with a heavy expense; but he can supply what is requisite in this country.
It is not from an interested motive that your memorialist is come into America, but from a principle of honour and liberty; therefore does not desire any pay till he has proved himself worthy the esteem of the honourable Congress, but will serve the campaign at his own expense, rank being all he is ambitious of.
All which is humbly submitted to the consideration of the honourable Congress.
CHAMBARON, Chevalier d' Antignac."

Re: Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 12:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
It might be interesting to try and see if any of his daughters married someone with the surname Chambaron.

Re: Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 12:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Good idea!
Would Philbert's nobility/title have been passed down to his children and on down the line? I don't know that much about French nobility.

Re: Philibert Antignac 1721

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 2:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have a few noble ancestors. Sometimes if someone didn't have any sons, a title could get passed down through a daughter.

for instance, I have an ancestor, Clement de Reihlac. He was actually born Clement le Fevre His mother was Marguerite de Reihlac. When her brother died and there were no more male heirs to the de Reihlac name, Clement le Fevre took on the name de Reihlac and the noble house.

I think it is also possible that the surname is just Chambaron. I have a few noble ancestors whose real surname was what came before the last "De -----". For instance, my ancestor Nicolas de Mesme de Marolles was from the family "de Mesme" but after he acquired the lands of Marolles he tacked on the name de Marolles.

"D" with an apostrophe after it usually comes before a vowel and is the same thing as "De" before a consonant. It means "of". So when your ancestor signed Chambaron chevalier d'Antignac it was the same thing as saying Chambaron, Knight of Antignac. Antignac is a surname in France but it is also a place which is why I think the surname might be just Chambaron.

This might also help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiliary_particle#France

Note this paragraph:

"From the sixteenth century, surnames among the French nobility have often been composed of a combination of patronymic names, titles, or noms de terres ("names of lands" or estates) joined by the preposition de..."

The Chambaron would be a surname and the "d'Antignac" would be the nom de terres.

I hope this helps
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