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Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac France

schwartzbear — 2013-05-11 12:26:00Z

Hi Charmaine

Good news and bad (or no news)!

Since I contacted you previously I have found your village called Frontignac in Haute-Vienne. I have joined the Haute-Vienne Yahoo group and after several weeks finally was accepted as a member. I wrote to the group requesting any info on Ferdi but have received nothing other than their offical welcome to the group. I will email the group again, but it's not looking good.

The Haute-Vienne archives are not online yet so I have to rely on the goodwill of the other members of this Yahoo group. Normally I have had good responses when requesting info on Yahoo groups so it's not looking good.

Regards

Lee Hill

PATUREZ ou PATURET et DEVIS

christianehenriat — 2013-04-25 11:08:54Z

Bonjour,
je cherche en vain des traces de Rosalie DEVIS qui se serait mariée à Jacques Antoine PATUREZ dans les années 1830.
Je n'ai comme indication que la naissance de leur fils Eugène en 1832-33.
Les PATUREZ (ceux de ma branche) comporte beaucoup de gens du voyage. D'où le manque de précision des lieux.
Si quelqu'un connaît un site où me renseigner, merci d'avance.

Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac France

CharmaineBecket — 2013-03-07 10:27:32Z

Location of Frontignac France
It is a small village near Saint Sulpice Lauriere. It is on the Route de l'Eland off the Rue de Frontignac (D203). The biggest town nearby is Limoges which is SSW. Smaller towns nearby are Bersac sur Rivalier and La Jonchere Saint Maurice.
Frontignac is not near Frontignan.
I also found it on Google Earth.

Kind regards Charmaine

Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac France

schwartzbear — 2013-03-07 10:10:39Z

Hi Charmaine

There has not been a region called Champagne in France since the 1790s, but I have accessed all of the Departmental archives (many going back to the 1500s and listing the old commune names)from the area it once covered and have been unable to find a "Frontignac". The only reference I have found to a commune of that name is in Herault (34) (now called Frontignan, on the Mediterranean coast way south of the former Champagne. Many people have said on their trees that Frontignac is in Champagne but I have found no documentary evidence to support that.

I have many contacts in France (including my own French cousins) that research family history in their regions and I have found their information to be very reliable and always based on digitised/microfilmed primary source documents.

Regards

Lee Hill

Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac France

CharmaineBecket — 2013-03-07 09:36:36Z

Hi, thank you for this wonderful information. I'm just picking up now where my Mum left off. I'm a granddaughter x 7 of Ferdinand's. I shall look up Frontignac again and post details but I too initially got the information about Frontignan being the modern name. Frontignac is in the CHampaigne region of France.
My thoughts, looking at this logically, are that he may have essentially been a refugee, given the Revolution. The De before Meurant means that he was probably from an aristocratic family. I think in those times it's conceivable that you would try and disassociate yourselves from the aristocratic class. He seemed to have dropped the 'de' . By the time of the revolution the Hugonots were better treated so I think the former is a more likely scenario
for leaving France. All speculation of course.
Kind regards Charmaine

Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac France

schwartzbear — 2013-03-06 11:41:20Z

Hi Charmaine

Ferdinand was my wife's great great grandfather. I went back over my French Yahoo group query on this couple and found a few errors in my previous posting on this forum.

It seems that many people (including myself until I did further research) have assumed, based on unsubstantiated information on the internet, that Louis De Meurant and Jeanne Trinquant were Ferdinand Meurant's parents. This couple were married in 30/10/1753 at Andrezé (Maine et Loire, 49 – North Western France). Louis Demeurant's parents were Louis Demeurant & Catherine Guais and his wife, Jeanne Trinquant's parents were Joseph Trinquant & Jeanne Beneteau.

Louis De Meurant (a weaver) and Jeanne Trinquant only had 2 children:
- Marie b. 25/3/1761 and d. 20/9/1766 at le May sur Evre,
- Joseph b. 23/2/1768 at le May sur Evre.

These families lived in the Le May sur Evre – Andrezé area for their whole lives. This information comes from several genealogists in France who have done extensive research on these families. This is typical of my own French ancestors (day labourers)who never moved more than 5-10 kms to a nearby village. In addition, Ferdinand was a Huguenot (protestant) while this family's marriage and births are contained in the parish (Catholic Church) records. There is a 102 year gap in the records (spanning the 1765 birth of Ferdinand) during which the Huguenots were persecuted.

Some people have also assumed that he was born at, Champagne, Dordogne (24), Aquitaine, South Western France. There is no place with the name “Champagne” in that Department of Dordogne. There is a “Champagnac de Belaire” and a “Campagne”. I have sought info on the first of these from a local genealogist who has checked the parish registers at that time for no result. He has suggested that the name (De) Meurant is not known in that area. Again, the Huguenot/Catholic Church record problem does not help. Both of these places are in western France but nowhere near Le May etc where Demeurant/Trinquant lived, or Frontignac where Ferdinand claimed to have been born.
Ferdinand also named his property at Parklea in western Sydney (Australia) “Frontignac” supposedly after the village where he was born. Frontignac (now called Frontignan) is located in the far south of France on the Mediterranean coast in the Department of Herault (34). The Herault archives are online and I have personally searched these for the commune (village) of Frontignan/Frontignac at the time of his birth and there is no record in these archives of his birth. I have checked the current (Insee = postcode) and past (Archives) village names in the Departments of Aube (10), Ardenne (8), Marne (51) and Haute Marne (52) that make up the region of Champagne-Ardenne (a large part of which was known as Champagne until the 1790s). My own family came from Aube. I would be interested to know where this village of Frontignac that you refer to is located. What villages is it near?

Unfortunately, as well as being a forger, he appears to have been “a little careless with the truth” as evidenced by the interview he had with a Monsieur Peron a visiting French journalist so this makes it even harder to track his French ancestry.
I hope that above info is of some assistance to you and wish you luck in tracking his ancestry down!!!

Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1865 – 1844 b Frontignac France

CharmaineBecket — 2013-03-05 10:29:40Z

Am researching my family. I am a direct decendant of Ferdinand Meurant and have noticed the (2008) message re Ferdiand's parents. You say that Louis and Jean are not his parents and that their decendants in France claim they had one son Joseph born in 1863?? This is 100 years after they were married. Also I have located Frontignac Champaigne as a separate village to Frontignan. Could not Ferdinand have been born there with the parents moving or living at Andreze in Maine et Loire?
Is there any update on their relationship to Ferdinand? Recent research does seem to establish that they were his parents.
Charmaine

Objet : patronyme de GUIGNE, DEGUIGNE

jocelyn_perusse — 2013-02-05 20:22:17Z

bonjour , au canada en début des années 1700 nous retrouvons des Chastenay (Chastenest ) dit LaGuigne ....et ceci dans l'environnement de Familles Pérusse qui sont mes ancêtres . Avez vous des liens ou informations sur ces deux familles ( Chastenay et Pérusse )

Re: Fromage, Grandchamp, Ardennes

Conroy12 — 2012-12-20 15:56:32Z

thanks a lot Angela :)

Re: Fromage, Grandchamp, Ardennes

jambomama — 2012-12-20 11:50:33Z

http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.... PAge 459/733

Lucie Camille FROMAGE, b 16 apr 1861, in Signy L'Abbaye, daughter of Jean-Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE, wool spinner, 27, and of Adele LALLEMENT, 28, of Signy L'Abbaye.

http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.... page 186 and 187/733

Marriage in Signy L'Abbaye on 8 july 1857
Jean Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE, wool spinner,, b 6 Aug 1833 in Signy L'Abbaye, son of Jean-Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE, 57, sawyer of wood(?) and of Rosalie Victoire MOUSIERE(??), 53;
and Adele LALLEMEN, worker in spinning factory in Signy L'Abbaye, b 5 dec 1832 in Maubert-Fontaine, Ardennes, daughter of Charles Eugene Lallement, 54, and of Marie Louise Madoulet(??), 53, living in Signy L'Abbaye.
Witnesses: Emond Fromage, 44, worker in spinning factory, paternal uncle of husband; Jean Baptiste Moulier(??) 56, maternal uncle of husband; Pierre Lallemend, 33 Wife's brother; Louis Laroche, 28, wool spinner, brother-in-law of wife.

Marriage in Maubert-Fontaine on 16 Aug 1825
Charles Eugene Lallement, 22, b Maubert-Fontaine, son of Jean Joseph Lallement, farmer and of Marie Catherine Bocquet;
and Catherine Madoulet, 21, b Maubert-Fontaine, daughter of Jacques Madoulet and of Louise Barbiere.
The couple wished to recognise their son Pierre b 4 nov 1824 in Maubert-Fontaine.
Winesses:Nicolas Bocquet, 44 and Pierre Louis Bocquet,42,, uncles of the husband living in Eteignierer; Jacques Barbiere, 24 first cousin of bride; Jean Madoulet, 30 uncle of bride.

http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.... page 26/100

Marriage in Signy L'Abbaye on 15 July 1828
Jean Baptiste Emond FROMAGE, 28, sawyer of wood, b in Signy L'Abbaye, son of late Rigobert Fromage and of Marie Anne Quentin, 54;
and Marie Rosalie Victoire HOURLIER, 25, b Rocquigny, living in Signy L'Abbaye, daughter of Pierre Hourlier, 56, domestic worker, and of Marie Louise Mignart(???), 53, living in Signy L'Abbaye.
Witnesses include: Emond Fromage, 66, husband's uncle; Francois Hourlier, 52, uncle of bride, of Rocquigny.

http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.... page 114/486

I hope this helps. I cannot be sure of all the spellings of the names!
Angela

Re: Fromage, Grandchamp, Ardennes

jambomama — 2012-12-20 08:28:12Z

According to the banns published in 1885 (it's on line), her name was Lucie Camille FROMAGE, b c 1861, a servant living at Bogny Bray in Chateau Regnault, daughter of Jean-Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE a wool spinner who d in Signy L'Abbaye and of Adele LALLEMENT 52 of Signy L'Abbaye.

Hope this helps,
Angela

Fromage, Grandchamp, Ardennes

Conroy12 — 2012-12-19 16:15:31Z

looking for the wife of Emile Antoine Chenonier , she would have been born around 1860, maybe in the area of Grandchamp, Maranwez, St Jean aux Bois Ardennes. Her son was Henri Louis Chenonier born 1887 in Grandchamp, Ardennes, thanks for any help.

Champagne: Jean Beaugrand Champagne

natnjames — 2012-12-19 00:02:07Z

Seeking any ancestry information of Champagne branche named:Jean Beaugrand Champagne b. 1641 Champagne, Ardennes France, D. 12/5/1699 Richelieu Quebec Canada

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

Rosneath — 2012-09-09 20:19:36Z

sorry, my fault - yes he was Richard Armstrong, it was his sister Emma that married the Palmer.

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-09-09 20:17:22Z

Dear John,
We too are related but I am an off-spring from Mary Pritchard and Ferdinand. William and Elvira. William went to NZ and was my grandmother's g. grandfather.
Kind regards, Diane Charteris.

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-09-09 20:13:15Z

No I am not descended from Elvira the child of Ferdinands Third wife. I am descended from Ferdinands second wife; Mary Pritchard (from Wales) William and Elvira were their children. Elvira died in a house fire. William went to New Zealand.
kind regards, Diane Charteris.

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-09-09 20:08:31Z

Hi, I believe he was involved with the fur trade. Seals. But that is all I know. My grandmother did mention that area but I have long forgotten those childhood tales.
kind regards, Diane.

Chenonier/Grandchamp Ardennes

Conroy12 — 2012-06-04 00:28:56Z

looking for relatives of my grandfather, Marcel Chenonier who was born in WAsigy, Ardennes but his parents were said to have come from Grandchamp, Ardennes, father Henri Chenonier, mother Marie Longuet from Oise.

Grossard

JDVDDS — 2012-06-02 19:21:41Z

Francois Grossard married Madeleine Simon 20 jan 1645 in Giffaumont Marne Champagne France. They had a son John born 1657 in Giffaumont. John imigrated to America in the late 1600s. I would like information on Francois and Madeleine ancestors. John changed his name in America to Grizzard.

Objet : Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

ALAIN_AUBERT — 2012-06-01 21:45:55Z

Father and mother of Auguste:

Nicolas Auvigne born "19 VENTOSE AN XII" (french revolution) = 10 MAR 1804 in Saulles (Haute Marne)

Marriage 14 FEB 1831 in Saulles (Haute Marne)

with Anne Robinet, born 19 MAR 1806 in Grenant (Haute Marne)

You can find archives of Haute Marne: http://archives.haute-marne.fr/subset.html?name=etat-civil

Objet : Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

ALAIN_AUBERT — 2012-06-01 20:59:12Z

Auguste Symphorien Auvigne is born 12 AUG 1837 (not 1847)
in city of "Grenant" (Haute Marne)

His wife Marie : probably born:24 APR 1839 Champlitte-La-Ville (Haute Saone), but archives Haute Saone not on the web.

I can find father and mother Auvigne pedigree, if you want!

Objet : Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

ALAIN_AUBERT — 2012-06-01 20:59:05Z

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-05-21 03:56:21Z

Yes, I am aware of Elvira his half-sister. I guess you already know William's full bld sister died in a house fire in Sydney aged 6. Elvira you descend from was his half sister of the same name. William also named one of his children Elvira as well, born in NZ. I live in Brisbane phone no 3409 1188 if u would like to ring me. I cannot remembe what William did when he came to NZ, he married a maori lady. My grandmother was born neil her mother meurant.They all lived in the north Island. My grandmother told me the maori ggg grandmother was the daughter of a chief. Looking foreward to hearing from you. Diane.

Re: Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

efcharvet — 2012-05-12 08:39:55Z

I do not know what happened, but this Ancestry.com message board automatically posted my last message before I was finished. --- No problem, I guess. At least what I wrote sounded OK.

Here is the rest of my message:

The Archives départmentales de la Haute-Saône, where the records of your city Champlitte-la-Ville are located, is one of my least favorite websites for archives in France. This is because they only digitized the microfilms of the Mormons and put them online, and they made no effort to index the years of make them easy to use for researchers and navigation is not easy. The images of the birth, marriage, and death records look exactly like the microfilms - which is OK, but is it takes far too much time and effort for me to do free look-ups for people who post to Message Boards like this one.

However, using this website will not be too much work for you because you are looking for records of your own ancestor! (big smile!)

Here is the website for the Archives départementales de la Haute-Saône, where you can find your records of Champlitte-sur-Ville:

http://archives.cg70.fr/

I wish you much success!

Bonne quête !

Re: Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

efcharvet — 2012-05-12 07:55:44Z

Hello again,

I went the site of the Departemental Archives of Haute-Marne to look for your ancestor. The website has all of the état civil for Saulles online, which was good, however, Tables décennales (Ten-year indexes) are not online, so I had to search the annual indexes at the end of each year's records.

Here are all of the births of people named Auvigne between 1833 and 1860:

08 Feb 1833 - Appolline
29 May 1833 - François
15 Mar 1836 - Marie Catherine
16 Aug 1939 - Pierre
14 Feb 1845 - Marie-Appolline
06 Apr 1845 - Marie-Anne
23 Sep 1846 - Jean-Baptiste Simon
18 Oct 1854 - Jean-Baptiste Simon
01 Dec 1860 - Marie-Augustine

As you can see, there was no one named « Auguste Symphorien Auvigne » born in 1847, or nearby years.

You can look at the records yourself. The website for the Archives départementals de la Haute-Marne is free to use. Here is the link:

http://archives.haute-marne.fr/subset.html?name=etat-civil

Re: Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

efcharvet — 2012-05-11 20:30:11Z

Salut,

I will look for you.

Here is useful information for the future for you:

Champlitte-la-Ville is in the département of Haute-Saône in the Franche-Comté region.

Saulles is in the département of Haute-Marne in the Champagne-Ardenne region.

They are not far from each other, but the records are in different places. (This would be a bit like the difference between the records of Kansas and of Missouri. They are not together.)

When you ask for information, be sure to always include the names of the départments.

I will write again later.

Amicalement

Re: Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

nfradsham22 — 2012-05-11 15:21:42Z

Auguste would have been born in Saulles, Champagne-Ardenne, France and died in Parsons, Labette, Kansas. Marie would have been born in Champlitte-La-Ville died in Chetopa, Labette, Kansas.

Re: Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

efcharvet — 2012-05-11 07:07:56Z

What city?

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

1_kara_miller — 2012-05-11 05:48:40Z

That so exciting to hear about William. What did he do as an occupation when he went to NZ. My ggg grandmother was named after Elvira and was Williams 1/2 sister

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-05-11 01:40:28Z

We too are related. I am decended from William Edward Meurant. From New Zealand. I live now in Brisbane.

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-05-11 01:35:02Z

Hi John, Then you and I are also related in a thread. I decend from Ferdinand Meurant's wife Mary Pritchard via their son William Edward Meurant.
I live in Brisbane but from NZ.

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-05-11 01:29:02Z

Ferdinand Charles Meurant born 1765 in Champaigne France. died in Sydney 1844 Was my g.g.g.g. grandfather. He was transported to Sydney. He was married times 3. His son William Edward Meurant born in Sydney 1803 had only one sister named Elvira she died aged 6 in a fire in Sydney. He had no other siblings. William Edward Meurant moved to New Zealand married Rehe Hekina Kenehuru O Te Rangi she died in NZ in 1879 they had a few children of whom I decend. I don't know if this will be of any assistance to you. Good luck in your search.

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

djo17492 — 2012-05-11 01:29:00Z

Auguste Symphorien Auvigne

nfradsham22 — 2012-05-10 14:27:18Z

Can anyone find a birth record for Auguste Symphorien Auvigne born 12 Aug 1847? Or perhaps a marriage record for Auguste and his wife Marie Premissey Tremiset? Any information would be of great help! Thanks!

Nicole

Re: Champagne, Shampine surname

ama2fr — 2012-04-28 18:31:39Z

You're welcome! ;)

As for Jean Baptiste's ancestry, yes I think so, provided he was really your ancestor and not just an homonym. If so, Charles was in fact born in France (in St.Thomas parish of La Flèche, departement of Sarthe) while his wife Marianne BASTARACHE is said to be born in Port-Royal. Her parents were from Bayonne, in the "Basque Country", an area of France near the Spanish frontier which has a strong cultural identity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Country_%28greater_regio...

I've found many different birth dates for Charles Orillon which can be explained because we don't have the original parish records anymore for this period. Only indexes survived but there is listed a baptism for one Charles ORILLON on April 29, 1666.

These data seem quite correct: http://gw3.geneanet.org/proulxd1?lang=en&p=charles&n...

You'll find Sarthe archives on-line here: http://www.archives.sarthe.com/etatcivil.asp
- choose FLECHE (LA) to get the list of all available records
- microfilm 1Mi_270_R01: parish St. Thomas, répertoire des baptêmes garçons /filles = baptisms index boys/girls (an V = 1797)
. page 58: Charles Orillon baptism listed (29 avril 1666)
. page 235: Marriage of Julien "Apurillon" et Anne Roger (14 sept 1659)
. page 33: Baptism of Jullien Aurillon (20 avril 1633)

Also, one of their Canadian descendent, Michèle CHAMPAGNE has studied this family in details for many years and she's even published a book about them: http://www.societedesecrivains.com/librairie/livre.php?isbn=...

. more about the book: http://www.lecourriersud.com/Culture/Arts-et-spectacles/2012...
. her articles about the family: http://www.histoire-genealogie.com/spip.php?auteur189
. about pioneers coming from La Flèche: http://sarthegw.free.fr/pionnier/p_fleche.php
. about pioneers from Sarthe: http://sarthegw.free.fr/pionnier/pionnier.php

Sorry, all this is in French but you'll get at least an idea of the content with http://translate.google.fr/#fr|en|

Good reading!
Amandine

Re: Champagne, Shampine surname

jyerden021 — 2012-04-25 16:07:26Z

Thank you very much for all of the great information! I did find a baptism record for Jean Baptiste Orillon born 23 Nov 1704,Port Royale, his parents are Charles Orillon and Marie Anne Bastarache. Is this correct? If so then it states that Charles birthplace is Canada and MArie Anne as born in France.

I will continue to search, but thank you again.

Julie Ann

Re: Champagne, Shampine surname

ama2fr — 2012-04-08 16:09:47Z

Hello Julie,

I don't think this family has much to do with the Champagne region but anyway, looking around, I've found a discussion about probably the same couple which indicated their marriage:

Union 1797 in Lachine (district of Montreal) : LORION CHAMPAGNE Charles & GUIGNE BOURGUIGNON Josephe

source: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/QUEBEC-RESEARC...

PRDH is a research program in historical demography from the university of Montreal: http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/

The same marriage is mentioned on http://www.mesaieux.com/defaultAn.asp (parents names & more available but you'll have to buy vouchers to get it):
1797 - Lachine - Marriage Charles LORION & Josephte GUINEE

and again on ancestry.ca with the spelling Charles LORION & Josephe GUINEE

Finally, found the whole ancestry here: http://www.mwlandry.ca/genealog/familygroup.php?familyID=F38...

Charles ORILLON (b. Aug 24, 1766 Berthier-en-Haut, Berthier, Québec, Can), son of Charles ORILLON dit CHAMPAGNE & Marie-Josèphe LAUZET married on Feb 6, 1797 in Lachine (Jacques-Cartier, Québec, Canada) Marie-Josèphe GUINÉE, daughter of André GUINÉE & Charlotte GAUDON.

Charles ORILLON dit CHAMPAGNE in turn is the son of Jean-Baptiste ORILLON dit CHAMPAGNE b. 23 Nov 1704 in Port-Royal (Annapolis, Nouvelle-Écosse, Canada) & Cécile LABAUVE.

Jean-Baptiste had a younger brother also called Charles ORILLON dit CHAMPAGNE, born in 1713 in Acadia, who took refuge in Quebec to escape the "Great Upheaval" of 1755: the expulsion of the Acadians by the English. Finding refuge in Quebec (Canada), ORILLON dit CHAMPAGNE are considered one of the pioneer families of the Acadian region of Nicolet, near Trois-Rivières. Their father, bearing the same first name, Charles (ORILLON), was of French origin, born in the town of La Flèche (nowadays in the French département of Sarthe).

More about this family and their ancestry: http://www.histoire-genealogie.com/article.php3?id_article=6...
It's in French so you might prefer the Google translation: http://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=... but beware, it also tends to translate people and town names (ex. Orillon dit Champagne > Orillon said Champagne).

The original surname spelling in France would be Aurillon, which became Orillon, Orion, Lorion, etc. in Canada. Champagne is in fact a kind of surname, generally linked with the individual origin or character. In this case, it would come from the "en Champagne" part of many villages names around La Flèche, which were once part of the Champagne Mancelle territory.

About the "dit names": http://genealogy.about.com/b/2010/07/08/understanding-dit-na...

About André GUIGNE/GUÉNIER dit BOURGUIGNON:
- http://www.fichierorigine.com/detail.php?numero=241952
- http://www.marcel-fournier.com/index.php/genealogie/temoigna...

Of course, you should check all the original records for eventual mistakes but I think all this will at least give you some leads.

Good searches!
Amandine

Champagne, Shampine surname

jyerden021 — 2012-04-07 15:31:57Z

Hello! I am looking for Charles Champagne born 1770 in france. Married Josette Gignie-Bourguignon. I am related through their son Jean Baptiste Shampine(sp. change) born 1810 in Canada, m. Roseanne Chevalier.

I am specifically looking for Charles and Josette's parents and so on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Julie

Re: Huyet dit Champagne

bluesky5431 — 2012-03-05 11:49:15Z

I am also interested in where Pierre/Etienne Huyet are from. The big question that I have is that there are 2 Charlevilles in France (Ardennes and Marne). Does anyone have a source that confirms Ardennes?

Thanks.

Tony Champagne

Re: Duzua/Dequasie in Champagne

LindaVincent3478 — 2012-02-12 20:57:05Z

Sandra, have you found anything about Charles Dequasie's time in France? Charles is my fifth great-grandfather. I have several land records and censuses for him. But I have never been able to find anything about his origins in France other than what he provides in his American Revolution pension application. I also have not found him listed in records of French soldiers who fought in the Revolution. Would like to exchange any information you may have and vice versa. Thanks.
Linda Vincent

Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1865 – 1844 b Frontignac France

deeess — 2012-01-19 08:12:27Z

Hello "umbers3" & others

Re: Ferdinand MEURANT 1865 - 1844 / Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

I had missed this thread earlier as the subject heading birth year appears to be incorrect and possibly should be 1765 - 1844.
Yes, Arthur Ricemedon (Ricemedon may be a transcription error for Richardson) DE MEURANT / DE MAURANT / DE MURRANT (3 entries vary) married Julia May BROWN 1849 and daughter Sarah's christening was 1850 - Either Julia's surname was a very bad transcription error or she married a BROWN somewhere along the way.
Ferdinand MEURANT - transported for forgery, leaving behind wife Sophia & children - application was apparently made for Sophia to come to AUSTRALIA.
Ferdinand MEURANT reported to have had two children with Mary PRITCHARD, supposedly one child, Edward, went to NEW ZEALAND.
Ferdinand MEURANT married Rose MARTIN (some web sites say there was no marriage; it was registered 1811 in NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA)
Ferdinand MEURANT has a lot of descendants in AUSTRALIA, including many in VICTORIA; YACKANDANDAH, VICTORIA is one place the name is very common where one had the MEURANT's hotel.

MARRIAGE

MEURANT Farninand Male 1811 MARTIN Rose Female Church of England Parramatta St. John's V1811 491 147A 1811 0

MEURANT Ferninand Male 1811 MARTIN Rose Female Church of England Parramatta St. John's V1811 1224 3A 1811 0

MARRIAGE

Surname: DE MURRANT
Given Names: Arthur Ricemedon
Event: M
Spouse Surname/Father: BROWN
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Julia Mary
Age:
Sex: M
Birth Place:
Death Place:
Year: 1849
Reg Number: 40669
Denomination: ROMAN CATHOLIC
Parish: ST FRANCIS, MELBOURNE
Fiche: 554

Surname: BROWN
Given Names: Julia Mary
Event: M
Spouse Surname/Father: DE MURRANT
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Arthur Ricemedon
Age:
Sex: F
Birth Place:
Death Place:
Year: 1849
Reg Number: 40669
Denomination: ROMAN CATHOLIC
Parish: ST FRANCIS, MELBOURNE
Fiche: 554

CHRISTENING

DE MAURANT Sarah A. 1850 Arthur Julia ROMAN CATHOLIC SYDNEY ST. JAMES V1850 604 141

DE MEURANT Sarah A. 1850 Arthur Julia ROMAN CATHOLIC SYDNEY ST. JAMES V1850 1036 67 1850 0

DE MEURANT Sarah A. 1850 Arthur Julia ROMAN CATHOLIC SYDNEY ST. JAMES V1850 1039 67 1850 0

Re: Charles Aubertin born 1794.

callys48 — 2012-01-14 08:15:29Z

My friend Mary is decended from the above via Charles Thomas 1815,frank 1845, Henry 1881, Charlotte 1909, Henry bought his family to new Zealand in 1921 please contact me and I will send on the info to mary

Jean/John Villiard

beauie1 — 2011-12-29 22:20:05Z

I am looking for information on Jean Villiard and his wife Anne.They had a daughter Henriette Josephine Villiard born in abt 1818 in Chalons en Champagne.I am trying to trace Jeans parentage,the family immigrated to Scotland sometime before 1835 but I dont have any other information on him. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Jean Aveline dit St. Jule and Catharine Guilbalt

113579 — 2011-12-24 05:05:05Z

I am a descendant of Jean Aveline and have a lot of info.
My gr.gr.mother was auzelie st.jules. It took me years and years to tie the two names.
let me know if you are still looking and for what exactly.
i'll be happy to help if i can.
regards,
anita

Re: Ferdinand Meurant 1865 – 1844 b Frontignac France

nancy_gregory1 — 2011-12-04 07:12:42Z

Hi Les,

Interesting to read that you are also related to Ferdinand, He is also my great great great grandfather. If you would be able to let me know via email nancy.gregory@bigpond.com how your family is linked to Ferdinand. My father was Jack William GREGORY, his parents were Frederick Thomas Gregory and Pauline Emma PIKE. So we might be related.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
John Gregory

Re: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendants

nancy_gregory1 — 2011-12-04 06:52:36Z

Hi Kara,

If Ferdinand Meurant is your great great great grandfather, then you and I are related. My Father was Jack William Gregory, his parents were Frederick Thomas Gregory and Pauline Emma PIKE, and this is where it leads into Ferdinand. Pauline's parents were William & Dinah PIKE, Williams parents were John PIKE and Elvira MEURANT, Elvira's parents were Ferdinand Charles MEURANT & Rosetta MARTIN. I also have Ferdinands & Rosetta's parents. Please feel free to contact me if you like.
John Gregory

patronyme oudart dans les ardennes

coudart — 2011-11-21 17:06:34Z

bonjour à tous, je recherche les parents de henry oudart marié à anne dinoury et vivant à arnicourt dans les ardennes ainsi que ses frères et soeurs. j'estime sa naissance vers 1665.
les archives départementales des ardennes commences en 1670 donc difficile de remonter et de connaitre les liens avec les différents oudart apparaissant dans les registres de 1670 à 1750.

merci de votre aide

claude oudart

Re: Recherche acte

ama2fr — 2011-11-16 22:42:24Z

Bonjour,

Je n'ai pas la réponse pour ancestry, mais il existe une excellente association qui photographie et indexe les actes pour la Marne (près de 5 millions d'actes à ce jour) :
Marne-Archive : http://www.marne-archive.com/index.php

Bergères sous Montmirail - Décès
1882-03-28 - GUENON Auguste Alexandre - 53 ans
parents : Jean Baptiste & MARTIN Marie Dorothée
Photo n° Ber12_1108

Pour obtenir la photo de l'acte, il suffit de cliquer sur le lien "cantonnier" sur la page des résultats (c'est gratuit) et remplir le formulaire.

Bonne continuation ;)
Amandine

Recherche acte

serge_perriaud — 2011-11-16 14:26:09Z

Bonjour, comment faire pour avoir l'acte complet sur ancestry il ne montre que la Tables decennales serie 125M.
je recherche l'acte de déces d' Auguste-Alexandre Guénon décédé le 29 mars 1882 a bergere sous Montmirail, ne trouvant pas d'acte de naissance à son nom j'éspère avoir le nom des parents.
j'ai été voir les archive de la marne mais aucuns actes.
merci d'avance Serge Perriaud

Re: Chenonier/Chanonier

Conroy12 — 2011-10-22 16:35:53Z

thanks, i belive it is my great grandmother and her parents, now if only i could find out more about the chenonier....