Bourgogne - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Verrier family

lpeb_1 — 2013-03-04 03:18:35Z

My grandmother was a Verrier from England, immigrated to Australia 1912. She spoke of links to Verriers from France which I am hopeful I will link up eventually. I just read your message speaking of a book "Le Verrier" written in 1976 by Pierre Letourmy. Could you please advise me if this book is still available and if so where I can purchase it. Regards, Lyn.

GAUTIER/GAUTHIER family from ST MALO

lisawoodley_1 — 2013-03-02 02:12:24Z

Hi there,

Trying to find a birth record for each of the following:

Auguste Francois Gauthier
Birth abt 1813 in Saint Malo, Bourgogne, France

Elizabeth Ursula Bechemin
Birth abt 1825 in France

Emigrated to Channel Islands around 1840, met and married shortly after.

Thanks!

Re: Elias Sawaya

Soospad — 2013-02-15 05:38:59Z

Does Line 9 look like your Elias Sawaya?

Cheers,

Soosi

Re: Barratier or Jandard Family from La Chapelle de Guinchay

gregoryjosephdaniels — 2013-01-21 22:24:47Z

Thank you very, very much. This is great. The tree is private so we cannot view it.
We hope to see it soon.

Kind Regards,
Gregory Daniels & Olivia Barratier

Re: Barratier or Jandard Family from La Chapelle de Guinchay

Soospad — 2013-01-21 13:42:06Z

Hello,

I was able to find some birth and marriage records as well as some census entries. It's too much to copy here so I started a family tree so you can just copy it all.

As you will see, I had the most luck with Eugénie Jandard and her family. On the censuses, Jacques Laurent Barratier lists his place of birth as Villars-les-Dombes which is in the Department of Ain, Rhône-Alpes. I have searched there and all surrounding towns and villages, using alternate spellings, etc for birth and military service records but haven't found anything. No birth, marriage or death records are available to the general public after 1902 which doesn't help. Also, since he and Eugénie never married there isn't the great information included on marriage records. I had hoped more information about him would have been included on the children's birth records but no such luck. I'll try to search a few more places.

In the meantime, here's the tree I started using Paul Henri Barratier as the home person:

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/51512519/person/13212880091

Barratier or Jandard Family from La Chapelle de Guinchay

gregoryjosephdaniels — 2013-01-02 20:13:58Z

Bonjour. Looking for any information on ancestry, death records - anything. Merci.
Paul Henri Barratier
Birth 19 march 1912 in La Chapelle de Guinchay, France
Death 16 September 1960 in 4, Place de la Paix, Macon, France

Blanche Chavignon Barratier
Birth 7 August 1917 in Lavaveix-les-mines, Creuse, Limousin, France
Death 10 April 1972 in Créteil, Val-de-Marne, Île-de-France, France

Jacques Laurent Barratier
Birth abt 1868 in la chapelle de guinchay france

Eugenie Jaudard (Jandard)
Birth abt 1871 in la chapelle de guinchay france

Pierre Gregoire (dit Nantais)

natnjames — 2012-12-18 23:47:26Z

Seeking any ancestry information of Pierre Gregoire. who had a son named Jean Pierre Gregoire who migrated to Quebec and added a dit name Nantais
I have seen on other sites that Pierre was possibly from Lyon, France but have found no records of this to confirm.

Re: CAPTAIN CHARLES AUBERTIN.c.1814. in Napoleon's army.

Ailward_Robert — 2012-12-16 18:27:39Z

I am the Aubertin family historian.I have constructed a family tree of ALL the decendents of Captain (French) Charles Aubertin from his sons William and Charles.Perhaps we could collaborate?

Re: CAPTAIN CHARLES AUBERTIN.c.1814. in Napoleon's army.

Ailward_Robert — 2012-12-16 18:22:24Z

I am the Aubertin family historian.I have traced ALL the decendants of Captain Charles sons William and Charles but I have not been able to trace any decendents of Sarah.Perhaps we could collaborate?

Re: CAPTAIN CHARLES AUBERTIN.c.1814. in Napoleon's army.

Ailward_Robert — 2012-12-16 18:16:36Z

I am the Aubertin family historian.I have traced ALL his English decendants.As yet I have not been able to trace any French decendants.Perhaps we could collaborate?

Re: information about Emile CHARDIGNY and Laurent JOLY

michelfournel — 2012-07-12 09:38:27Z

Hello!
I have commmunicated your e-mailmessage to the town hall of the village whose name by the way has changed in 1958 .The new name is saint laurent sur saone
Here's the text explaining the various names for your wife if she still speaks French

Les différents noms de la commune
Comme beaucoup de villes, Saint-Laurent-sur-Saône a connu de multiples appellations. À la création de l’abbaye, on parlait de "Saint-Lorent oultre le Pont". Ensuite, on l’appelait "Saint-Laurent la rivière", puis on trouve "Saint-Laurent-près-Mâcon", "Saint-Laurent-lès-Mâcon", "Saint-Laurent de l’Ain", "Port de l’Ain ci devant Saint-Laurent", "Port de l’Ain (Saint-Laurent)", "Port inférieur de Saône", "Ain et Saône ci devant Saint-Laurent", "Saint-Laurent (Ain)".

Parmi toutes ces appellations, la plus utilisée était "Saint-Laurent-lès-Mâcon", car elle permettait de mieux situer la commune par rapport à sa voisine plus grande. Celle-ci fut supprimée en 1958, pour être remplacée par "Saint-Laurent-sur-Saône", marquant ainsi la volonté de se démarquer de Mâcon

Re: Petitot

DenisSincennes — 2012-06-30 11:58:04Z

Merci beaucoup Michel.

Re: Petitot

michelfournel — 2012-06-30 05:06:08Z

Bonjour !je vous envoie ces liens concernant la répartition passée et actuelle du nom de vos ancetres
http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/nomcarte.cgi?nom=p...

Pour savoir dans quels ebdroits ils vivaient:
http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/francecom.cgi?nume...

Enfin ce dernier lien pour rechercher dans les archives
http://www.archives.cotedor.fr/jahia/jsp/index.jsp
Tous mes voeux de réussite

information about Emile CHARDIGNY and Laurent JOLY

m_g_martuscello — 2012-03-28 01:06:49Z

I am trying to find my wife's ancestors in or around MACON, France.
Please contact me if you have ever heard of Emile Chardigny who had 4 or 5 children ( Jean, Joseph, Marie, and Josephine who was my wife's grandmother and who was born around 1890-1900).

I am also looking for Laurent JOLY, my wife's grandfather, who lived in St Laurent les Macon in the 1950's.

Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thank you

Objet : PILLIEN/PILLIN (58 & 71)

gsm49 — 2012-03-24 18:40:31Z

Bonjour, mon ancêtre du côté maternel est Louis Balard dit Latour, naissance vers 1649, St-Lazare, Aubin ou Autun, Bourgogne, France et ses parents seraient Pierre Balard et Bastienne Pilin.Je n'ai pas de source mais partout c'est écrit qu'ils seraient de cette région de France. Louis était soldat du régiment Carignan-Salières et est venu au Canada, Québec en 1665 et s'est établi et marié avec Marguerite Migneron en 1676 dont j'ai les sources.
Je ne sais pas si cela peut vous intéresser.
Gisèle.

Petitot

DenisSincennes — 2011-11-20 17:54:02Z

Bonjour à tous, j'ai besoin de votre aide pour trouver la lignée en France de Denis Petitot dit Saint-Seine/Saint-Seyne/Sincennes.

Denis Petitot arriva à Port Royal vers 1685 en tant que chirurgien probablement pour la 'Compagnie Franche de la Marine'. Il épousa Marie Robichaud fille de Etienne et de Françoise Boudreau en 1689. Ils ont eu 4 enfants, Denis 1689, Marie 1693, Marie Magdeleine 1694 et Anne 1696.

La lignée au Canada est facile à trouver mais celle de France est introuvable. On a aucun acte de baptême mais on soupçonne qu'il serait né autour de 1662 à Saint-Seine-sur-Vingeanne, Côte d'Or.

Si quelqu'un a de l'information qui pourrait faire débloquer ce mystère n'hésité pas à me faire signe.

Merci

Denis
Nouvelle-Écosse
Canada

Re: Mathieu Schmitt/Boheme'

lindybarts — 2011-11-12 17:59:48Z

Thanks! I guess I didn't consider the fact it could be the region Bohemia instead of a town. Hmmm?

Re: Mathieu Schmitt/Boheme'

jambomama — 2011-11-12 15:36:07Z

Try this web site. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gbhs/who.html

Re: Mathieu Schmitt/Boheme'

lindybarts — 2011-11-12 15:14:37Z

Oh thank you so much for translating! Do you know where the town Bohemia or Boheme is located? On Google maps, there are a couple different ones that come up. Cosne-Cours-Sir-Loire? Sanary-Sur-Mer near the coast and one also near Paris. Hoping to find some more online birth records.

Yes, I did have the death record for Elizabeth Luck also! Thank you so much for helping!!!

Lindy

Re: Mathieu Schmitt/Boheme'

jambomama — 2011-11-12 12:51:59Z

TRanslation:
Extract for the Register of Declarations of Deaths of the Commune of Eberbach, Canton of Seltz.
Declaration of Death made in the "Commune House" (Town Hall) of Eberbach, Departement of Bas Rhin, before the Officer of Civil Registration at 9 am on 9 December 1824 - of Matthieu SCHMITT, husband of Elizabeth LUCK, aged 58, born in Bohemia, labourer resident in Eberbach, died in this "Mairie" (well that means Town Hall, but I presume it means in the area covered by this Town Hall!)on 8 December at 10 pm.
Those who made the declaration:
Louis LUCK, 40; Antoine MESSNER, labourer, 40; both resident in Eberbach.
Read and signed by... etc etc.

Presumably this extract was made in 1829. Rather like getting a copy of a death certificate .

Do you have the death of Elisabeth LUCK? 24 Apr 1841 in Eberbach.

recherche Charles Perraud

serge_perriaud — 2011-11-06 17:15:44Z

Bonjour, je recherche actes de Charles Perraud marié le 17 fev 1784 à Marie Lacôte, parent charles Jean Perraud et Louise Bailly, Frère Jacques Perriaud marié à Anne Girardon le 26 jan 1790 autre frère Claude Perriaud naissance le 28 janv 1766 marié le 16 sept 1788 à Louise Girardon.
Tous à Rigny sur Arroux, impossible de trouver acte de naissance ou décès de Charles.
Merci pour votre aide.

Mathieu Schmitt/Boheme'

lindybarts — 2011-11-04 15:58:47Z

I am trying to find a birth record and parents names for my Ancestor, Mathieu Schmitt.(abt 1766-1824) I have a death record from Eberbach-Seltz indicating he was born in Boheme. Hopefully I have the right message board for that location. Are there online records available for this region like the ones for Bas-Rhin?
Also if anyone can help translate this document attached, I would greatly appreciate it. I'm not sure what it is for...perhaps probate records since it is dated 1829 and Mathieu died in 1824. His wife was Elizabeth Luck.

infos sur Charles Perraud

serge_perriaud — 2011-10-10 14:56:36Z

bonjour je recherche des infos sur Charles Perraud marié avec Marie Lacôte le 17 février 1784 qui je pense doit être un parent.
J'ai un acte de Naissance de Philibert Perriaud né le 1 jan 1785 à Rigny sur Arroux avec comme Père Charles Perriaud et mère Marie Lacôte.
Merci d'avance

Objet : Re: Perriaud philibert

serge_perriaud — 2011-09-29 13:24:33Z

Merci et désolé si ma demande n'était pas très claire mais je débute

Re: Perriaud philibert

ama2fr — 2011-09-29 11:44:02Z

Bonjour,

Sans date ni lieu, c'est un peu vague, non ?
Heureusement, il y a Google : http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Genialegenealogiedu71/messa...

Les archives de la Saône-et-Loire sont en ligne : http://www.archives71.fr/archives/arkotheque/index.php

-> mariage de Philibert PERRAUD & Louise BERGER : Rigny-sur-Arroux, Naissances, Mariages 1813/1822, registre 5 E 370/3 , page 167

Le prénom de la mère sur l'acte de naissance de leur fils est peut-être une erreur ou celui qu'elle utilisait dans la vie de tous les jours. Vérifiez l'acte de mariage du fils et s'il est bien différent, cherchez l'acte de décès de la première femme et/ou de la mère. Les dates devraient permettre de lever les doutes éventuels. ;)

Perriaud philibert

serge_perriaud — 2011-09-29 10:23:44Z

Bonjour je recherche l'acte de mariage de Philibert, j'ai trouvé un acte avec comme conjointe Louise Berger mais sur l'acte de naissance du fils Louis j'ai Pierrette Berger

Merci à vous

Re: Girardon genealoige

feddersen_girardon — 2011-08-09 15:39:43Z

Dear Debbie,
I think we are cousins. My grandfather Enea Girardon and your grandfather were brothers, Giovanni was their father. I woluld love to get in touch with you, I came accross this by chance but have always wanted to trace my relatives. I have three sisters, we are daughters of Silla, only son of Enea Romolo Girardon. You are quite correct, they were from Mestre, although originally from Venice itself. They moved to Mestre after Giovanni died and Emma, his wife, remarried and whent to live there with her three sons. She later had a doughter, Gina. Please, if you get this get in touch!!!! Love, Sheila.

Re: Georges Martin, Dijon

michelfournel — 2011-03-30 15:08:32Z

Dear Sir!
It will be very complicated for you to find members of the Martin family living in Dijon.Martin is a very frequent name in France .Only In dijon there are 237 people that bear this name.I send you all their names and addresses with their phone numbers.
I wish you good luck and a lot of patience
Yours sincerely
http://annuaire.118000.fr/v_dijon_21/n_martin/0

Re: recherche famille

michelfournel — 2011-03-29 14:49:38Z

Bonjour Madame !
J'ai utilisé le site www.pagesjaunes.fr/pagesblanches/ pour retrouver des LEON dans cette ville.Voici la réponse
Léon Guy
.Bourg 58800 CHITRY LES MINES
Telephone 03 86 20 25 76
Bientot les archives de la Nievre seront numerisées et mises en ligne.Vous pourrez trouver une foule de renseignements sur vos ancetres ( naissance , mariage, décès )
http://www.cg58.fr/services-au-public/archives-departemental...
enfin je vous communique l'adresse d'une personne qui a étudié votre famille
E-Mail : bertin.boutonnet@orange.fr

Re: Hopkins

michelfournel — 2011-03-29 04:58:27Z

http://www.archivespasdecalais.fr/Chercher-dans-les-archives...
Dear Madam
Civil registration records are being numerised by the town hall of Boulogne to be offered for information .At the moment only ten year global tables are available in which you can only find names with their dates of births marriage and deaths.
More records such as birth marriages and death certificates will be made available in the years to come
I couldn't find information about the name given in 1823 .ONe hopkins called Francis was born in 1926.Records are difficult to read .I hope you can understand French.Contact me if you have any difficulties

Re: Nicholas Backes (Backus)

nancystouffersmith — 2011-03-13 02:00:13Z

Hello, I think we have been in contact; Nicholas from New Market MN? Contact me at smithretsmith@aol.com....Nancy

Hopkins

lornabarry190 — 2011-03-05 06:55:56Z

Looking for information on George Hopkins born Boulogne,Pas-de-Calais France 1823 Father James Hopkins
George migrated to Australia in 1852. How can I get a birth certificate from France I live Australia
thanking you
Lorna

Re: FAMILY RESEARCH

cgumbleton — 2011-01-24 00:40:42Z

We are farther back, but try to connect your way back. I have Jacques Ray b 1723 in Bourgogne to Anne Defrance b 1703 and Antoine Rey.

Georges Martin, Dijon

LianneTracey — 2011-01-16 02:53:01Z

I'm looking for the Martin family in Dijon, France. Fathers name was George and the Mothers name was Denise (Raymund) the both died and were buried in a cemetary in Dijon, France in approx. 1956. They had 4 children, all born in Dijon.

Re: baptismal record legitime et naturelle

jjpannell — 2010-11-06 21:34:27Z

Merci mille fois, Amandine, for the information. I have bookmarked the dictionary, also thank you for the two web links, I wish I had known about them earlier. Being from Australia, I am unfamiliar with the neighbouring townships, and most of my ancestors seem to have come from tiny hamlets.

I do have a copy of the Michelin road atlas which is a great help.

Amicalement
Julia in Oz

Re: baptismal record legitime et naturelle

ama2fr — 2010-11-06 17:18:58Z

Hello Julia,

Nowadays, "un enfant naturel" is indeed a natural child, whose parents are not married together.

But the expression "enfant légitime et naturel" had not the same meaning at this time, it meant only the parents were legally married together, as indicates the 1835 Dictionnaire de l'Académie française (http://books.google.fr/books?id=2ks_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA255&am...):

« Enfant légitime et naturel : Celui qui est né d'un mariage légitime, par opposition à L'enfant illégitime et L'enfant adoptif. »

Legitimate and natural child = One born of a legitimate marriage, as opposed to the illegitimate child and the adoptive child.

It only meant the filiation was both natural (for the mother) and legitimate (for the father) as any child born from a married couple is automatically regarded as the husband's child.

I don't know why the priest only used the double expression at some times and not always though. Note that it is not used everywhere either, as I've rarely met it in my own researches.

As for the marriage record, if there is no missing period in the registers, it could simply be the wife came from another town, probably nearby. The wedding almost always take place in the bride homeplace if they're from different towns. After the marriage, it's not uncommon they go live at the groom place and/or with his family.

You can use http://www.locom.org/loc_dep.htm to search for neighbouring villages or this new website/service: http://recel.geonames.org/?

The latter one will help you access any French town archives available on-line as well and let you see the surrounding villages. Type the first letter of the town name, then choose the good one. The "Dans un rayon de 10 km" list show a local area map if you hover your mouse over it, and offers easy access to these nearby towns archives as well!

Bonnes recherches !
Amandine

baptismal record legitime et naturelle

jjpannell — 2010-11-05 00:23:14Z

My family member, Marie Bertoux [Berthoud], was baptised on 14 February 1721 in Matour, Saone-et Loire, Bourgogne. The record states, at folio 137 of BSM 1707-1727, 'Marie fille legitime et naturelle de Vincent Bertoux et de Jeanne de la fay...'. Other records have both legitime and naturelle, but most just have legitime. Does this mean that Marie was born prior to her parents' marriage?, which I have been unable to locate in Matour.

Julia in Oz

recherche famille

berou2 — 2010-09-29 22:04:42Z

Bonsoir à tous et à toutes, je viens de m'abonner à Ancestry et je recherche des descendants de Jules Léon et de Marguerite Paupert, son épouse, dont le fils Félix, né à Chitry les Mines (58)était mon grand père. Je sais qu'il avait de nombreux frères et soeurs et j'aimerais retrouver des membres de cette famille nivernaise que je n'ai jamais connue, suite à la vie de mon grand père que je qualifierai de "chaotique". Peut-être aurai je de la chance ? Geneviève Boutonnet (née Léon)

Re: Verrier family

good2bthaking — 2010-09-13 20:29:44Z

My grandfather was Noel Legault dit Deslauriers.I have been trying for months to find out any info on his military unit.Could you tell me more about the unit your ancestor commanded.Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks, Norman Legault.

Nazaire Boudillet Blessey & St Germain la Feuille

jjpannell — 2010-08-17 07:26:16Z

My 6 times great grandfather Nazaire Boudillet was born 6 Feb 1697 and married 28 Feb 1719 to Anne Maire at St Germain la Feuille. Interested to hear from anyone related to this family.
Amicalement
Julia
jjpannell@hotmail.com

Marie Henriette MATRUCHOT

jjpannell — 2010-08-17 02:08:20Z

Bonjour tout le monde,

My great great grandmother, Marie Henriette MATRUCHOT, married my great great grandfather, Joseph JOURNET on 2 July 1846 in Alger, Algerie. Her father was Jean Marie MATRUCHOT and her mother, Marie Matruchot (different line of Matruchots). Marie Henriette was born 24 December 1824 in St Germain la feuille, Cote d'Or, France.

I would be interested to hear from anyone with links to this family, and am particularly interested in how families from the French Alps ended up in North Africa in the 1840s. Joseph came from Bage Le Chatel, Ain, Rhone-Alpes and I have birth records etc for his family.

Cordialement

Julia

Julia Pannell
Adelaide, South Australia
jjpannell@hotmail.com

Faucillon Verrey-sous-Salmaise

jjpannell — 2010-08-17 01:54:00Z

Bonjour tout le monde,

I am researching my Faucillon family in Verrey-Sous-Salmaise and would be interested to hear from any one with connections to that family.

Merci

Amicalement Julia

Julia Pannell, Adelaide, South Australia

Recherche sur la Nièvre (58)

margaret06470 — 2010-08-01 08:20:03Z

Bonjour à tous,

Je suis bloqué sur mon arbre des Gauchot, dont le berceau est à Entrains sur Nohain.

Quelqu'un (une) ici sur ce forum fait-il(elle) des recherches sur ce nom de famille?

Voudriez-vous dans ce cas partager avec moi vos infos et je ferais de même bien sur.

Merci d'avance et bonne journée à tous.

Cordialement Marge

Re: civil death records, 1977

ellenrozsa — 2010-07-11 15:49:28Z

Makes perfect sense. Thanks for giving me a head's up. I have found a lot of information on my ancestors in the Ariege from a Yahoo group that specializes in genealogy in that area. A very nice man sent me photos of actual pages of the mairie records for my grandmother's village, then translated them into English for me. I was able to trace my direct ancestors from 1910 all the way back to 1803 and earlier.

Re: civil death records, 1977

ama2fr — 2010-07-11 09:46:03Z

No, you won't find any vital records less than 100 years old online. The CNIL (French administrative authority ensuring privacy laws are respected) ruled that nothing of less than 100 years should be put on-line, even if the legal "public access" time period is lesser (as for death certificates for example).

civil death records, 1977

ellenrozsa — 2010-07-10 19:09:49Z

Are civil death records available online for the 1970's?

Re: Louis Seraphim Maret

bets001 — 2010-04-29 00:41:58Z

I AM A BIT LATE, BUT HOW ARE YOU RELATED TO THE MARETS ? THANK YOU, BETTY

Nicholas Backes (Backus)

klbackes68 — 2010-03-12 19:13:36Z

Attempting to locate files on Nicholas Backes (Backus) born 1795 around Longwy. Married a Dupre.

Re: Devere, Letot

carolynketch52 — 2010-02-24 05:43:56Z

Martin Devere born about 1833 Burgoyne France,(son of John Devere/Mary Cure of France)Martin came to America 1855 was in New York & Conn. area for about 4 yrs before going west to LaSalle County where he married Catherine Letot (m.May 19, 1861) Martin died Feb. 9, 1915 and is buried Kankakee Ill, Mound Grove Cemetery. They had 6 children: Samuel b. 1862 d.April 23, 1928 Kankakee Ill, Emma Devere Perreault(my husbands ggrandmother)b.Oct 13, 1863 Kankakee Ill, d. Sept. 18, 1947 Prinston, Minn., John b.1866 d. Nov 19, 1912 Kankakee Ill, Elmina b. 1871 d.April 6, 1928, Catherine Devere Jones (husband Clyde Eugene Jones-Denver Co) b. 1872, Daniel b.1880. I have just found the information about Martin's parents and have not been started my research. When I find informtion I will forward to you. I hope this is of some help. Thanks Carolyn

Re: Etienne-Celestin Simon, Dept. Doubs

lingenfeltermike — 2010-01-22 02:21:37Z

Josephine married into my wifes line, second wedding--Mousty. Contact me at lingenfeltermike@hotmail.com
Mike