Hello Jeanne,

Work and social events kept me from answering sooner. It's actually fairly late (or early) here.

Swicbms indexes are incorporated in the Genanet database, so that you hit them when searching for a given surname. There is obviously some kind of commercial agreement between them, now that Geneanet has been a spun off from INRIA (National Intitute for IS reasearch) and must be financially viable. I spent some Swicbms units for you and found that Pierre Lagrave and Marie Labrucherie wedding had been officially transcribed onto Eysus records on March 4, 1896. Pierre is reported to be 27 when getting married in San Francisco which would position it around 1868-1869 since an other record indicates he was born on March 27, 1841 in Eysus. Nothing is said about witnesses.

I could not find track of a birth record for Felicie. Was she born in Eysus? Pierre appears as Jean-Pierre and Gracieuse as Engrâce which is very common. But I did not go all the way to get the information, I only went as far as I could as a suscriber, you may already have that information.

All the best,
Jean-Luc

Dear Jackie,
Are you from California, USA?
I know a bit of the candalot/dupuy history
Regards,
Chrissy

Hi Chrissy,
Sorry, I haven't been on this website for awhile.
Yes, I do live in California, U.S.A. My grandparents on my father's side were Candalot and Dupuy.
I would love to hear what you know about my family.
Please e-mail me at pdjackie@yahoo.com.
Thanks,
Jackie

Bonjour Jeanne and Jean-Luc,
I have not been on this site for a long time. Actually, I guess it has been 2 months. I hope you do not think I am rude. Just have been very busy.
I live in the desert in California, Palm Desert, and it has been very hot so we get out of town every chance we get.
I have also been doing my genealogy work at the LDS library here in town. I have been working in the towns of Lourdios, Arette and Cardesse. It is very time consuming but interesting.
One day, Jean-Luc, I may ask you to help me in using Swicbms. I totally do not understand it. Maybe later one day.
We are planning a visit to the big island of Hawaii in September ending up with 3 days on Maui. We are looking forward to that.
My best to you both,
Jackie

Hi, Jackie!

Good to hear from you. Looks like you're keeping yourself busy!

Jeanne

I think my research is very close to your information. I am looking for a connection between Jean-Pierre Labrucherie and Loustanou. I am doing the research for my son-in-law. His grandmother was a Labrucherie. She recalls that he was married to Marie Jeanne Barratte. Because I have been doing some fairly extensive research on other families I realize that there are many variant spellings. Henrietta Labrucherie actually met Peter Enos in the Seattle area and then moved to the Santa Clara area of California. If you have any information I would really appreciate it.

I posted the following on my delphi forum from the genealogy that Phil Arnautou sent me. If you'd like to join me at that forum, the link is:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/jeanniealogy/messages


Here is a partial genealogy beginning with Bernard
Lagrave, who was born in 1783.

Generation 1:

Bernard LaGrave (1783-1833) married Catherine Claverie
(1783 - 1855) on March 2, 1803.

Their childeren were:

Pierre LaGrave (11/12/1816)
Jean-Francois LaGrave (1812-1886)

Generation 2

Jean-Francois LaGrave married Engrace Casebonne (d.
1888 or 1889)

Their childrene were:

Marie LaGrave (b. 1868) - married Jean Menioulet
Bernard LaGrave (b. 1863) - married Cahterine LaCome
Pierre LaGrave (b. 1861) - married Marie Labrucherie
(b. 1832)
Jean-Pierre (b. 1865) - married Thaize Lacazette

Generation 3:

Pierre LaGrave and Marie Labrucherie

Their childeren were:

Jean Leon LaGrave (married Marie Louise Fourcade)
1871 - 1952

Marie LaGrave (married Cyrille Arnautou
1873 - 1909

Gracieuse LaGrave (married Emile Nouaux)
06/28/0874 - 01/01/1957

Jeanne LaGrave (married Pierre Regla)
1884 - 1981

Generation 4

Children of Jean Leon and Marie:

Anna
Fenande
Jeanne
Jean Marie
Jules
Jean Baptiste

Children of Marie and Cyrille Arnautou:

Ferdinand
Emile
Marie

Children of Gracieuse and Emile Nouaux:

Saturnin
Leonne
Armand
Noelie

Children of Jeanne and Pierre Regla

Andrew
Rene
Emma Louise

Thank you so much for your very thorough reply. I definitely appreciate the information. I will begin the journey to fill in the gaps.

I packed away my research when I moved - my Labrucherie/Lagrave, etc. stuff is all in one folder, so it's just a matter of finding the folder. When I do, I can scan some of the stuff in and send it to you as an attachment to an attachment to an e-mail, or I could attache it here - looks like we can attach documents here, too.

I have that chart from my cousin Phil that the info I sent you is from - I could scan it in. The Labrucherie family in the San Francisco area has family reunions periodically. That genealogy info came from one of the Labrucherie family reunions.

Keep in touch and let me know what you find out. I am almost certan that anyone related to the Labrucheries must be related, even if it's a distant relationship. According to this website - www.notrefamille.com - people with the name Labrucherie in France are historically localized to just one area - The Aquitane, or Basses Pyrenees (sp?) area), so I'm guessing they're all related.

Jeanne

Hello Jeanne and Jackie, and greetings to other readers,

Jeanne, I have diverging dates for Pierre Lagrave (aka Marie Labrucherie's husband): my sources indicate that he was born May 27, 1841 (and not 1861) which is more consistent with his father being born in 1811-1812 and his son in 1871. Would the 20 year difference also apply to his brothers and sisters? By the way, his sister Mary is married to a man called Menjoulet (I am related to some of them) and not Menioulet.

If I am not mistaken your relation to them is through Emma Louise and Jeanne. I have a certain number of Labrucherie's in my database, but have not been able to link your Marie to them. Would you have any hint? I think you're the one who told me she was about 29 years old when Jeanne was born.
All the best,
Jean-Luc

I think your sources for a birth date aof 1841 may be correct; Pierre and Marie Lagrave were in San Francisco in the early 1870s. They are in the 1870 census; Pierre is 28 and Marie is 18. The 1861 could be a typo on my part.

Yes, you are correct; I am Emma Louise's daughter; Emma Louise was Jeanne Lagrave Regla's daughter. Jeanne was one of Marie and Pierr's daughters, and it's Marie who was the Labrucherie.

I know there is a Labrucherie genealogy that was done for one of the family reunions, and I thought I had it, but it's the Lagrave genealogy that I have. I'll see if any of my cousins on that side of the family have a copy they can scan in and send me. Two of my cousins told me they had it at one time and don't know what they did with it.

I'll ask again and see if they can find it.

Jeanne

Jeanne:
I think we exchanged emails about 4 years ago. I wonder whether the LaGrave research has turned up my great great aunt's husband. He was born in Spain in 1848 and lived in Eysus. His name was Joachim LaGrave. He died in San Francisco in 1900.

I'm also curious about a CADI listing for Jules P. LaGrave, born in 1902 to an ARROUGE mother. If anyone knows who she was, it would be of interest. Another of my great great aunts married an Arrouge, and I'd like to figure out how they all connect (as I believe they do).

Best wishes,
Pat.
was MA, now ME

My cousin's son will be traveling to Eysus; I will ask him to see if he can find out if Joachim is a relative. I have not come across this name in my research, but perhaps when my cousin's son goes to Eysus, he will be able to find out if this is a relative.

Regarding Jules, I was under the impression that Jules P. with the Arrogue mother listed in the death index was my grandother's cousin, but looking at the genealogy I was given by a cousin, parents of the Jules Lagrave in my famiily were Jean Leon Lagrave and Marie Louise Fourcade.

Jeanne