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Re: Help Finding Parish

blp1014 — 2013-05-19 22:43:03Z

Thanks Bo, will try again to find this marriage record:

22 Nov 1795 - Vardeyd, Alvsborg (1763-1843)
Olof Larson Tyberg m. Margaretta Gudmundason or Greta Gudmund

Have requested the person who posted it, recheck his source, as I tried to find the parish record to clarify the wife's name as that is the conflict. Will check Genline thru Ancestry - Vanersborg C:2 1792-1819 again, earlier I didn't find a record for this person, perhaps I read something wrong. Thanks for all your help, Shirley

Re: Help Finding Parish

blp1014 — 2013-05-19 22:34:41Z

Thank you Ingela, your explanation is so complete and understandable, quite interesting. Have a message out to the person who posted the source for a relatives marriage to recheck his facts. Thanks for giving a clear history for this parish and area. Shirley

Re: Jöns Josefsson - Ingrid Jönsdotter marriage

margelsews — 2013-05-19 21:54:42Z

I think my files were too large and did not post. Trying again.

Sorry,
Margel

Jöns Josefsson - Ingrid Jönsdotter marriage

margelsews — 2013-05-19 21:53:19Z

These records would be difficult even without all of the bleed through from the back side. I apologize for asking for so much help with translations. I am most grateful for the generosity and help of other family genealogists.

I have had great fun this weekend locating records for my husband's family. In the past I have stayed away from Ancestry's Swedish church records due to the fact that they weren't indexed and in Swedish. Other than a Swedish prayer at mealtimes, I have had no knowledge of Swedish. Now I have found many records for his family and kindly, many people have then helped translate the information beyond the names and a date - sometimes I have not been able to read even that.

I am attaching two potential marriage records for Jöns Josefsson - Ingrid Jönsdotter. Their son Josef was born in Feb 1820 so I was looking for a marriage prior to this date. I think the date on one is 14 May 1818?? Ingrid is from Hånger but I can't tell where he is from on this record. There are additional names but cannot tell the relationships.

The other one is in Feb 1820 but the names and location seem correct. Later Household examination records do show them in Enebacken so that lines up with this one.

Guidance, opinions and translations that might solve this are requested and appreciated.

Margel

Re: SINCLAIR-relatives

JOBaouab — 2013-05-19 18:15:43Z

Here is the birth record for Svante. The father didn't use any name such as Sincler in this record.

http://www.arkivdigital.net (subscription)

Göteborgs Kristine CIII:2 (1866-1875) Image 290 / page 284 (AID: v32980.b290.s284, NAD: SE/GLA/13187)

I don't see them in the 1880 Swedish Census CD.

This is how they look in the 1890 Swedish Census CD. The father is not using a Sincler name at this point.

Jonasson, Johannes 1826 F
Niklasdotter, Anna Stina 1829 M
(Barn), Svante 1872 Ch

Post 2649876

Jonasson, Johannes
Arbetare

b. 1826 i Stora Lundby (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)

Man, married (father)

Lundby Jönsegård
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Lundby, Elfs. l.

Post 2649877

Niklasdotter, Anna Stina

b. 1829 i Alingsås (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)

h.
Woman, married (mother)

Lundby Jönsegård
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Alingsås

Post 2649878

Svante

b. 1872 i Göteborgs Kristine (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

s.
Man, single (child)

Lundby Jönsegård
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Kristine, i Göteborg

Here is Svante (perhaps) in the 1900 Swedish Census CD. (Do you recognize his family?) He is not using a surname of Sincler yet.

Jonasson, Svante 1872 Father
Jonasson, Johanna Dorotea 1870 Mother
(Barn), Axel Hjalmar 1893 Child
(Barn), John Sigfrid 1898 Child
(Barn), Karl Oscar 1899 Child

Record 1285191

Jonasson, Svante
Kolarbetare

b. 1872 in Göteborgs Kristine (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Man, married, father

Trettiofjärde Qvarteret
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Göteborgs Kristine Göteborgs och Bohus län

Record 1285192

Jonasson, Johanna Dorotea

b. 1870 in Landvetter (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

h.
Woman, married, mother

Trettiofjärde Qvarteret
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Landvetter Göteborgs och Bohus län

Record 1285190

Axel Hjalmar

b. 1893 in Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

s.
Boy, child

Trettiofjärde Qvarteret
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Lundby Göteborgs och Bohus län

Record 1285188

John Sigfrid

b. 1898 in Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

s.
Boy, child

Trettiofjärde Qvarteret
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Lundby Göteborgs och Bohus län

Record 1285189

Karl Oscar

b. 1899 in Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

s.
Boy, child

Trettiofjärde Qvarteret
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Lundby Göteborgs och Bohus län

1900:

The father Johannes is using a surname of Sinder in this record.

Record 1285187

Sinder Jonasson, Johannes
Pitpropsarbetare

b. 1826 in Lundby (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)

Man, married, father

Trettiofjärde Qvarteret
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Stora Lundby Älvsborgs län

Record 1285186

Niklasdotter, Anna Stina

b. 1829 in Alingsås (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)

h.
Woman, married, mother

Trettiofjärde Qvarteret
Lundby (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)

Place of birth (original source): Alingsås Älvsborgs län

Perhaps Sinder is your Sincler, etc.

I don't see the parents in the dvd "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009", but that is not complete before 1947.

I do see your Svante and he is **not** listed with a surname such as Sin* etc.

18721219-503

Jonasson, Svante

Tunnbindareg 14

Dead 3/27/1958.

Registered in Brämaregårdens kbfd, Göteborgs kn (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland).

Born 12/19/1872 in Göteborgs Kristine (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland).

Widower (6/2/1945).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Lundby, Göteborgs kn (Västra Götalands län, Bohuslän)

Parish of birth in the records:
Göteborgs Kristine (Göteborg och Bohus)

Source records:
DOR 52-60 / PA, DB

This appears to be the death record of his wife. If so, she matches the one found in the 1900 Swedish Census CD.

18700921

Jonasson f. Jonasson, Johanna Dorotea

37:2591

Dead 6/2/1945.

Registered in Lundby, Göteborgs stad (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland).

Born 9/21/1870 in Landvetter (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland).

Married woman (9/9/1899).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Lundby, Göteborgs kn (Västra Götalands län, Bohuslän)
Torslanda-Björlanda, Göteborgs kn (Västra Götalands län, Bohuslän)

Parish of birth in the records:
Landvetter (Göteborg och Bohus)

Source records:
DB, FB

Perhaps you can scan some images of records with Svante using a Sincler last name.

Judy

Re: Caulson Emigration Lookup Request

KathrynLCostello — 2013-05-19 18:07:28Z

Judy,
The names you posted that you were researching are that of my great grandparents and their siblings. My email address is "edikat2001@yahoo.com" if you wish to reply there.
Kay

Re: Josef Jonsson birth record - Assistance requested in reading record

margelsews — 2013-05-19 13:23:11Z

Bo-
That is very interesting. Much thanks - again!

Margel

Re: Ingrid Cajsa Svensdotter birth record translation help needed

margelsews — 2013-05-19 13:18:32Z

Greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Margel

Re: Josef Jonsson birth record - Assistance requested in reading record

bohjohan — 2013-05-19 12:36:24Z

Enebacken is the address ("torp", farm, or village) within Hånger parish.

In this case Enebacken sems to be a "torp" under (on the properties of) Stora Ryd.

A "torp" was a small tenant farm on the properties of a larger farm, and the "torpare" paid the lease by working a set number of days on the main farm.

You find the family at Enebacken in AD Hånger AI:5 (1811-1822) Image 120 / page 223 (AID: v20419.b120.s223, NAD: SE/VALA/00150).

An unusual circumstance it that they have three maids with surname Bengtsdotter, two of them blind.

And above them is a "torpare"(?) Johannes Bengtsson and son Bengt, both blind.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Ingrid Cajsa Svensdotter birth record translation help needed

bohjohan — 2013-05-19 12:24:07Z

Birth date 2, baptism date 5.
Mother's age(?): 36
Inger Cajsa. Father Sven Petersson, mother Catharina Börjesdotter in Jonsboda Västregård.
Witnesses: Peter Israelsson of the same Östregård, farmhand Sven Andersson of the same Västregård, wife Märta Germundsdotter in Svensboda(?) of this parish, maid Stina Johansdotter in Ö. Jonsboda.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Help Finding Parish

isulv — 2013-05-19 12:07:48Z

Väne-Ryr parish was before 1881 called just Ryr, but was always mixed up with another parish by the same name and was therefore usually designated "Ryr parish in Väne judicial district". Since this was extremely unhandy the name was finally changed by royal decree in 1881 to "Väne-Ryr".

Väne-Ryr was effectively a country parish to the town parish of Vänersborg (a country parish was a parish in the countryside adjacent to or surrounding a town or city - most often the town parish and the country parish even shared a name, like e.g. Åmål town parish ("Åmål stadsförsamling") and Åmål country parish ("Åmål landsförsamling")).

Väne-Ryr predates the town of Vänersborg (founded only in 1642, town privileges issued in 1644) but was - like almost every country parish bordering a town parish - swallowed up by the town. However, it was only as recently as 2010 that Väne-Ryr parish was formally merged with Vänersborg parish.

Historical documents (i.e. predating 2010) are still to be found under "Väne-Ryr". So far, no parish in Sweden has been "dismissed" (if the meaning is shut down, discontinued), but plenty of parishes have been split or merged.

Väne-Ryr belonged to the county of Älvsborg. The counties of Göteborg & Bohus, Älvsborg and Skaraborg (except for the municipalities of Mullsjö and Habo) were on 01 Jan 1998 merged into Västra Götaland county (not to be mixed up with Västergötland province). Historical documents (i.e. predating 01 Jan 1998) are still to be found under the old counties, in this case Älvsborg county.

I have no idea where you can have found that Väne-Ryr was "dismissed" in 1991; nothing special happened to Väne-Ryr in this year. Could you possibly refer to the fact that the population registration was on 01 Jul 1991 transferred from the Church of Sweden to the Tax Agency (corresponding to the IRS)? This did not affect only Väne-Ryr but all parishes in the entire country. This did not mean that the parishes were shut down, only that they no longer handled the official, state registration of births, marriages and deaths.

Ingela

Re: Josef Jonsson birth record - Assistance requested in reading record

margelsews — 2013-05-19 11:10:34Z

If he was born in Hånger, what does the Enebacken refer to - where he was baptized?

Margel

Re: Josef Jonsson birth record - Assistance requested in reading record

margelsews — 2013-05-19 10:47:32Z

Bo-
Thank you so much. I appreciate your effort.

Margel

Re: Ingrid Cajsa Svensdotter birth record translation help needed

margelsews — 2013-05-19 10:39:00Z

Thank you. Is it possible for you to translate the rest of the record as well? I can tell there are several names and assume they must be the sponsors/godparents as well as a location.

I appreciate your help.
Margel

Re: Josef Jonsson birth record - Assistance requested in reading record

bohjohan — 2013-05-19 09:16:47Z

Hånger CI:2 (1795-1860) Image 44 / page 79 (AID: v34374.b44.s79, NAD: SE/VALA/00150)

February 1820, number 3, male child, mother's age 30-35

Joseph Jönsson in Enebacken was born the 8th and baptised the 13th February (1820).
Parents: "torpare" Jöns Josephsson and wife Ingrid Jönsdotter, 31 years old.
Witnesses: farmer Eric Bengtsson in Drakaryd, farmhand Germund Nilsson of the same place, wife Elin Larsdotter of the same place, maid Elin Bengtsdotter in Enebacken.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Help Finding Parish

bohjohan — 2013-05-19 09:09:04Z

I guess it is Väne-Ryr parish

Väne-Ryr marriages 1792-1819 are found in Vänersborg CI:2, which is available on Genline labeled C:2 with GID number starting 735.10

// Bo Johanson

Re: SINCLAIR-relatives

suzieroderick — 2013-05-19 08:47:34Z

The Sinclair Clan have a lot of the details of the family and may be able to help you in your quest.The family is spread far and wide now but DNA testing may help you further.
If I can find out anything I will let you know.
Kind regards
Suzie

Re: Ingrid Cajsa Svensdotter birth record translation help needed

ghagberg163 — 2013-05-19 02:58:07Z

mother's name: Catharina Börjesdotter.

Re: Josef Jonsson birth record - Assistance requested in reading record

margelsews — 2013-05-19 02:54:49Z

My cat bumped my arm - sorry. I have now attached the record.

Margel

Josef Jonsson birth record - Assistance requested in reading record

margelsews — 2013-05-19 02:53:29Z

All of the household examination records for Josef Jonsson list his birth as 8 Feb 1820 in Hånger, Jönköping. In the Swedish birth records on Ancestry, I found the attached page for that time period. I believe that he is number 3 but I am having a great deal of difficulty reading the script. I would greatly appreciate any help you can give in this regard.

Thank you,
Margel

Re: Help Finding Parish

blp1014 — 2013-05-19 02:04:25Z

Thanks, that one I didn't try, will do. From what I read, the parish was dismissed in 1991, know anything about it? This is an area I know absolutely nothing about. Appreciate you suggestion, Shirley

Re: Peter Peterson

JOBaouab — 2013-05-19 00:08:47Z

They are here in the next household examination book.

Od AI:3 (1816-1830) Image 25 / page 38 (AID: v55475.b25.s38, NAD: SE/GLA/13417)

I also found them here in the following volume.

Od AI:4 (1830-1843) Image 33 / page 51 (AID: v55476.b33.s51, NAD: SE/GLA/13417)

I don't have any more time to search for you.

Judy

Re: Peter Peterson

JOBaouab — 2013-05-19 00:04:51Z

"I haven't found Almens yet..."

It was short for Almensered (Allmänsered), a farm in Od parish. Here they are.

http://www.arkivdigital.net (subscription)

Od AI:2 (1813-1817) Image 38 / page 66 (AID: v55474.b38.s66, NAD: SE/GLA/13417)

They moved in from Inglaholmen in 1814 and moved out to Galtholmen (a village in Od parish) in 1816.

Od AI:2 (1813-1817) Image 15 / page 20 (AID: v55474.b15.s20, NAD: SE/GLA/13417)

Judy

Ingrid Cajsa Svensdotter birth record translation help needed

margelsews — 2013-05-18 23:48:09Z

Again I am turning to this board for help with a translation. I found the birth record for Ingrid Svensdotter b. 2 March 1833 and can make out that her father was Sven Peterson but cannot make out the rest including the name of her mother. I found this in the Sweden - Church Records 1500-1941 (not indexed) on Ancestry. I have attached the record.

Thank you in advance,
Margel

Re: Help Finding Parish

ghagberg163 — 2013-05-18 22:34:28Z

Closest to that spelling in Älvsborg is Väne-Ryr.
Try there.

Help Finding Parish

blp1014 — 2013-05-18 21:16:00Z

Need help finding where to search for marriage record, 22 Nov 1795, Vanderyd, Alvsborg, read that it was moved in 1991 into Gothenborg Bohus and Skaraborg making up Vastra Gallard. I'm lost trying to locate where it is on GenLine in Ancestry, do have access to AID. Appreciate your help, Thanks. Shirley

Re: Translation Help with 1774 Death Record

mloncaric13 — 2013-05-17 22:49:21Z

Hi Bo --

I am very grateful for your kindness in translating this record! My Swedish is limited (and mostly restricted to "genealogical" type words and phrases)...while I was able to decipher a few details from Annica Ericsdotter's death record, I would never, ever have been able to understand the entire meaning: thank you so much for helping me to do so.

I know this ancestor is 250 years distant from me, but -- with your translation help -- I am able to have a connection to her beyond bare name and dates.

Thank you again -

Meredith

Re: 1792 Marriage record for Stina Håkensdotter and ?

bohjohan — 2013-05-17 21:31:45Z

Couple: bachelor Johannes Pehrsson in Klåckaregarden Hångsdala, maid Stina Håkensdotter in Giärdegården of the same.
His parents: Pehr Olofsson, Chierstin pehrsdotter in Sandhem.
Address: Klåckaregarden Hångsdala.
Banns fee: 4 ???.
Marriage date: 28 Dec (1792).
Morning gift: 40 "lod" silver.

Notice, her father's name is Håkan, not Håken.

The column headings are in Latin

Parentis = parents
Domicilium = home, address
Charta Sigill. = stamped paper (banns fee)
Dies Nuptialis = day of marriage
Dos med.(?) = morning gift

// Bo Johansson

Re: Help tracing a Swedish ancestor back into Denmark

bohjohan — 2013-05-17 21:18:42Z

I don't see him in the 1884 Malmö Caroli moving-out list either, but remember the remark that he had no certificate covering 18 Dec 1883 to 17 May 1884.

He is in the 1883 moving-out list as number 1873, 18 Dec 1883, coming from Humle XII (page 91), destination Ystad St. Maria.
AD Malmö Caroli BI:7 (1883-1888) Image 98 (AID: v103378.b98, NAD: SE/MSA/00553).

Perhaps he had moved in 1881-11-14?

BTW, I don't see him in Swedish census 1880.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Help tracing a Swedish ancestor back into Denmark

bohjohan — 2013-05-17 21:15:20Z

It seems the volumes have been re-named, but there is a name index, so it was relatively easy to find the page in ArkivDigital Ystads Sankta Maria AI:47 (1882-1887) Image 384 / page 320 (AID: v111986.b384.s320, NAD: SE/LLA/13489)

- Johan Lauritz Hansen, born 1858-04-20 Copenhagen, came from Malmö 1884 as number 61, banns 1885 number 6(?), no certificate covering before 1880-01-30 and 1881-01-29 to 1881-11-14 and 1883-12-18 and 1884-05-17, moved 1885 to page 366.

Lauritz Ferdinand Hansen came 1885 from Denmark, and moved 1886 to Denmark.

So they might not actually have been there at the same time, and anyway it seems strange to have two brothers named Johan Lauritz and Lauritz Ferdinand. But stranger things have happened...

Edit: changed his birth year to 1858.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Peter Peterson

swgenie92 — 2013-05-17 19:19:12Z

I haven't found Almens yet but I'll keep looking.
Thanks so much for your help!

Wendy

1792 Marriage record for Stina Håkensdotter and ?

mfettinger1 — 2013-05-17 17:31:42Z

Attached is a close up of the marriage record for my 4x great grandparents. I'd like to verify that I am reading it correctly especially Johannes' last name. I think it reads Johannes Pehrsson? in Klåckaregarden and Stina Håkensdotter in ?. Are the names in the second column Johannes' parents? Looks like it says Pehrs Olofsson and Chjerstin Olofsdotter in Sandhem but I'm not sure what the column heading means. Thanks to anyone who can help!

The record is from Skaraborg (Västra Götaland) Hångsdala Vigsel (Marriage) 1726 - 1793 GID 624.15.38000 Volume C:1
Page 319.

Re: Translation Help with 1774 Death Record

bohjohan — 2013-05-17 15:23:29Z

AD Vreta kloster F:1 (1746-1775) Image 224 / page 443 (AID: v41985.b224.s443, NAD: SE/VALA/00431)

Handwritten page number 222.

Number 39, Anna Erichsdotter, "torpare" Pehr Svensson's wife in Gröndalen at Högsätter's properties, born 1738 the 14th July in Wiggesätter. Father was "dannemannen" (the honorable farmer) Erich Svensson, mother wife Elin Andersdotter at that place, by them she was raised in a Christian manner and well until she entered a Christian marriage union with bachelor Pehr Pehrsson in Gröndalen (1761 in Nov.), after she had previously been employed some years in Härna in this parish. With her husband she had 6 children, 4 sons and 2 daughters, of who 3 sons and 1 daughter live.
Her way of life has been honest and virtuous and [her] Christian knowledge passable, [her] health has also been unchanging and steady, but at Candle-mas time this year her illness started with pneumonia, in addition she after some time had a miscarriage with twins, which weakened her strength so that she could understand that her last [days?] were at hand. At Easter day she last [received?] the Lord's Sacred Communion and the 8th June in the morning at 6 o'clock fell asleep blessedly and calmly, and was buried the 12th June, approaching 36 years old.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Birth record for Lisa Johansdotter b1784

mfettinger1 — 2013-05-17 14:54:01Z

Thank you very much! This looks like it is her because the parents names and the place they live match other records even though the birth date doesn't.

Marilyn

Re: Help tracing a Swedish ancestor back into Denmark

lizita54 — 2013-05-17 12:12:02Z

Can you help me find where in Malmö Johan lived? I found him in the moving in books for Ystad Sankt Maria, and it says he came from Malmö Ca., which I assume to the be Caroli parish. I checked those moving out books and couldn't find him in the approximate range of when he arrived to Ystad (May 17, 1884).

Re: Help with Household Records

ses125 — 2013-05-17 10:42:21Z

That makes perfect sense. Thanks, Bo.

Re: Help with Household Records

bohjohan — 2013-05-17 06:19:02Z

But most probably, both Sven Wetter's name and the name of the soldier's croft were inspired by lake Vättern. Västra Tollstad parish and the village Hästholmen are on the shores of lake Vättern.

http://www.hitta.se/karta?ref=start#var=västra tollstad

// Bo Bo Johansson

Re: Help with Household Records

bohjohan — 2013-05-17 05:49:05Z

At lower left is the cavalry soldier Lundborg, living at Wetterslund.

Sven Wetter lives at the properties of Hustholmen.

It is of course possible that Sven was inspired by the place-name Wetterslund when he took a new surname, but we don't know.

Notice that taking a new surname, or changing surname, was no big deal. No more reason was needed than wanting a new surname.

// Bo Johansson

Translation Help with 1774 Death Record

mloncaric13 — 2013-05-16 17:07:57Z

Hi --

This is a major request, I know. I am seeking help with the translation of my ancestor's death record, dated June 8, 1774. Her name was Anna (or Annica) Ericsdotter; she is #39 in the attached document. This record is from Vreta Kloster, Ostergotland, Dod Bok 1746-1775 (FI:1), Image 231, page 222.

I can read the general details of her record: her husband, Pehr Pehrsson, when they married, her own parents' names, that she had 6 children, 4 sons (3 living), 2 daughters (1 living), her birth date...But I cannot decipher how/why she died and any details of place names.

The handwriting is very difficult (for me!) -- I certainly do not ask that anyone translate this word for word, but if someone could give me the general gist of the record, I would be very grateful. I appreciate any clues as to the cause of her death, her family, where she was living (within the larger parish of Vreta Kloster), etc.

Thank you, thank you!

Re: Help with Household Records

ses125 — 2013-05-16 16:46:17Z

Thank you, Bo, for all of your help! How sad for Lena to lose a baby and then her husband the next month.

Would you mind looking again at this page:

Västra Tollstad AI:2 (1759-1788) Image 213 / page 379 (AID: v26967.b213.s379, NAD: SE/VALA/00452)

At the bottom of p. 378 right before someone named Lundborg it looks like it says Wetters_________? Right across the page is my Sven Wetter (Jönsson). Do you think this has something do do with his name change? Also, can you read where Sven and his family are living?

Sue

Re: Swedish Death Index - look up

jloscarson — 2013-05-16 16:39:43Z

If someone has the time could you look up death information on three more names for me? I have no idea if they'll even be in the death index. They are all siblings but I lose track of them because they move into parishes that don't keep moving in and out records at the times they were moving in and out (or I can't read the name of the parish they move to).

They are:

Augusta Charlotta Hellström
born: 23 September 1858 in Årdala parish

Johanna Mathilda Hellström
born: 14 April 1863 in Ripsa parish

Johan Albert Hellström
born: 25 June 1866 in Överjärna parish

I'd appreciate any help you can give!

Re: Translation Help with 1774 Death Record

JOBaouab — 2013-05-16 16:14:10Z

I was checking this forum to see if there were any unanswered posts which needed to be bumped to the top of the list. It was clear why this hadn't been answered.

I was impressed to see that most of the fairly recent posts had been answered. This is an excellent forum with quite a few helpful people.

Good luck!

Judy

Re: Translation Help with 1774 Death Record

mloncaric13 — 2013-05-16 16:08:50Z

Clearly, the file did not attach properly (and I didn't check to see it did!) -- I apologize.

I will attach it to this reply, and have edited it into the original message.

From Vreta Kloster, Ostergotland, 1746-1775 (FI:1) Dod book, Image 231, page 222.

Sorry for the omission. And thank you.

Help tracing a Swedish ancestor back into Denmark

lizita54 — 2013-05-16 15:54:29Z

Hello,
I am trying to trace the path and timeline taken by my great-great grandfather, Johan Lauritz Hansen. I first find him the Vor Frelser parish of Copenhagen, born April 20, 1858, and then again in the 1860 and 1870 Danish census. I next see him in Sweden in Ystad, living in a house with his future wife, Anna Thorsson. The slide for this can be seen in the Sweden, Church Records, 1500-1941 collection, Malmöhus -> Ystads stadsförsamling -> Husförör -> 1882-1887 (AI:1) -> page 265 of 375, line 9. I am hoping someone can translate all the notation on this page relating to Johan Lauritz Hansen and help me then trace him through the moving in/out books back to Malmö and perhaps to when he originally came to Sweden from Copenhagen. I am also unaware of any younger siblings he had, but I noticed another man in that same house listed above named Lauritz Ferdinand Hansen, born 1865 in Copenhagen. Perhaps someone could help me trace his roots back into Copenhagen so I can check those Danish parish books and confirm whether or not there is any relation between the two men (understanding this to not be likely given the extremely common surname).
Thank you,
Prentiss

Re: Charles C. Burke -- FL

JOBaouab — 2013-05-16 15:16:10Z

Perhaps the surname was Björke in Sweden or maybe he left Sweden using his patronymic last name (ending with son) and only later changed to a surname of Burke.

Charles was probably Karl/Carl in Sweden.

Judy

Re: Translation Help with 1774 Death Record

JOBaouab — 2013-05-16 13:41:50Z

You didn't attach anything.

Also, even if you had made an attachment, a full source reference is also helpful. (Parish, county, volume, years covered by the volume, page number, etc.)

Judy

Re: Help with Household Records

bohjohan — 2013-05-16 08:44:31Z

1. Sven Jönsson born 1737: "??? saltpetter sjudar" (??? salpeter boiler)

The daughter Lisa "får Cateches", probably means she received a catechism book, or that she was taught the catechism.

2. He had probably taken the non-patronymic surname when he became a salpeter boiler.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Help reading death records.

bohjohan — 2013-05-16 08:35:31Z

Jan. the 18th (1780) died salpeter boiler Sven Wetter's son Jonas at Hustholm's(?) properties of chest disease, and was buried the 16th of the same [month], age 5 months.

The 16th (or 15th?) died salpeter boiler Sven Wetter at Hustholm's(?) properties of "frossa" (shivering) and lung disease(?), and was buried the 25th of the same [month], age 43 years.

// Bo Johansson

Re: Birth record for Lisa Johansdotter b1784

ghagberg163 — 2013-05-16 04:08:00Z

Kjelfvene...Kielvene
Today Kälvene in former Skaraborg län
Birth record says 6 Apr 1784
Kälvene CI:1 (1764-1849) Image 18 / page 29 (AID: v46497.b18.s29, NAD: SE/GLA/13306)

Birth record for Lisa Johansdotter b1784

mfettinger1 — 2013-05-16 03:04:36Z

I am looking for the birth record for Lisa Johansdotter
born 30 Mar 1784. She married Sven Svensson
born 23 Aug 1784. I have located her death record and several household examination records in Näs. I have attached a jpg image of her death record because it has the clearest birth place name, but I can't figure our which parish it is. Can someone please help?

The death record can be found in Näs Skaraborg (Västra Götaland) 1770 - 1876 GID Number: 1559.6.35000 Volume: C:1
Roll/Fiche Number: XY-531 Page Number: 83