My ancestor, Arthur Marinius Valeur (sometimes Marinjus), was born in 1894 in Fredrikshald. He is included in his family's 1900 Census in Halden (at age 6).

I cannot find ANYTHING about him after 1900. I have tried searching the Norwegian Digital Archives, but I've had no success, most likely because I can't read Norwegian. Wouldn't there be a record of SOMETHING about him after the age of 6??

Thanks

Jill

"A record of SOMETHING" -- such as what exactly?

Did he emigrate from Norway? If you have an idea of WHEN the databases for emigration of the ports close to Fredrikshald should be checked for him listed in those registers.

Was he a member of the Lutheran church? If yes, you might next find him mentioned in a confirmation class of his church congregation at an estimated age 14-18.

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html

Using the Digitalarkivet is ususally easier for beginners if you use the English mode as much as is available.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.htm...

If you google the father "Karl Valeur" with the quotation marks, it seems that you have gotten some information on the family.

Is Arthur your ancestor? Or Dagny?
Are you trying to find Arthur still in Norway? Descendants/cousins from him?

Here is a posting that had 34 responses for this family, but nothing for Arthur?

http://boards.ancestry.netscape.com/localities.scan-balt.nor...

change it to flat view so you can see all of the postings.

The recommendation to try to find his confirmation is a good one, since perhaps he didn't even survive childhood?

I do not believe he emigrated to America, but, like I said, I only have a record of him being alive until 1900. He was Methodist.

Arthur and Dagny are both ancestors of mine. Dagny was my great-grandmother, and Arthur was her brother. (I assume he died a long time ago.)

I have a copy of Arthur's baptism record.

By SOMETHING or ANYTHING, I mean--isn't there a way to find out what happened to him after 1900?

His parents (Karl and Anna) did not emigrate (although they did visit the U.S.) Dagny, Petter, and Amy (Arthur's siblings) emigrated to the U.S.

If you want to see if he died as a child, after the 1900 census, this is maybe the resource you could search. It's the same place where you have gotten his birth record.

Just search the years under Døde dissentere, dead dissenters (non-Norwegian Lutherans)

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_id=4116

you can increase the size of the page in the drop down menu at the top, that currently says 40%.

Males are at the top half of the page, females at the bottom, that should speed it up.

I did just read (maybe here?) that the 1910 census will be released in a year or so in Norway. That will be exciting. And maybe answer a question, but keep digging!

Taryn

Thank you! I'll look into that.

I searched but was unable to find Arthur. Thank you for the resource, though. It's great, and I've never used it before.

What exactly do you mean by non-Norwegian Lutherans? Arthur was Norwegian but not Lutheran. Sorry; just a little confused.

Thanks.

Jill

I guess it should have been Norwegian non-Lutherans.

There are quite a few spelling variations of Valeur, and Artur/Arthur, so maybe he emigrated under one of the other spellings.

Hi,
The 1910 census will be released in January 2011

Regards,
Arna

thanks arna. i'm pretty sure he never emigrated. i guess i'll have to wait until 2011. :(

i have tried SO many variations of spellings, by the way.

Hi,
I’ve just posted two enquieries on DIS Norges web site, wrote in Norwegian and hope that we’ll get some response. …I’ll keep you posted.

Carl Peter Valeur, http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=344954#34...
I asked about his biological parents.

Arthur Marinius/Marinjus Valeur, http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?t=80935
Asked if anyone knows what happened to Arthur Marinius. I’ve looked through the death record of dissenter (non-members of church of Norway). I have not found any listing of confirmation of non members of the church of Norway.

Might take some while, its midsummer and the temperatures are rising… might surpass 77 degrees F this week.

Regards,
Arna

thank you! that is so generous of you. :)

Hi,
Jill had an enquiry regarding an old picture taken in Halden, Østfold and miraculously someone from Halden with knowledge of Arthur’s son Reidar responed. In response to the new information we got, I’ve been able to find more of Arthur’s children and the childrens marriage record, except from Reidar’s. So, here is an update on our findings.

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. 11 (1906-1934), Ekteviede 1916, side 49.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=387&id...
Married 4th of March 1916
Arthur Marinius Valeur, born 1893, Fredrikshald, baptized 30th of December 1893, Methodist church Fredrikshald
Jenny Mathilde Hansen, born 1894, Fredrikshald, baptized 18th of September 1894
Grooms father: Karl Valeur
Brides father: Jens Marinius Hansen

Jenny Mathilde’s baptism:
Østfold fylke, Halden, Ministerialbok nr. I 13 (1890-1906), Fødte og døpte 1894, side 74. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4897&i...
Born 18th of September 1894, baptized 14th of October 1894
Jenny Matilde
Parents: Jens Marinius Hansen, born 1866 and wife Matilde, born 1861
Address: Høvleriet
Goodparents: Hans August Hansen, ? Augusta ?, Karl Einar Hansen, the childs mother
The parents have 3 children

I have not been able to locate this family in the 1900 census.

Children of Arthur Marinius and Jenny Mathilde:

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. 10 (1900-1923), Fødte og døpte 1915, side 167. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4899&i...
Born 12th of March 1915, baptized 2nd of May 1915, born out of wedlock
Astrid Margrete
Parents: bachelor Arthur Valeur, born 1893 and unmarried girl Jenny Matilde Hansen, born 1894
Goodparents: wife Mathilde Hansen, unmarried girl Thora Eng, driver Oscar Hansen, Rolf…?bretsen

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. 10 (1900-1923), Fødte og døpte 1917, side 191. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4899&i...
Born 15th of August 1917, baptized 16th of September 1917
Reidar Marinius
Parents: Arthur Marinius Valeur, born 1893 and wife Jenny Mathilde maiden name: Hansen, born 1894
Address: Øvre Bankegd.
Godparents: Plan mill worker Karl Valeur, unmarried girl Valborg Hansen, the parents

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. 10 (1900-1923), Fødte og døpte 1920, side 217. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4899&i...
Born 4th of January 1920, baptized 22nd of February 1920
Kaare Emanuel
Paretns: Arthur Marinius Wallør, born 1893 and wife Jenny Mathilde, maiden name Hansen, born 1894
Address: Ø. Bankegd. 5
Goodparents: widow Mathilde Hansen, Miss Valborg Hansen, Anders Hansen, the father

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. 10 (1900-1923), Fødte og døpte 1921, side 233. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4899&i...
Born 2nd of June 1921, baptized 26th of June 1921
Else Marie
Parents: Arthur Marinius Wahllør, born 1897 and wife Jenny Mathilde, maiden name Hansen born 1894
Address: Ø. Bankegd. 5
Goodparents: the father, shoe worker Anders Hansen, widow Mathilde Hansen, unmarried girl Valborg Hansen

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. Ga 0012 (1923-1946), Fødte og døpte 1923, side 6. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7360&i...
Born 23rd of June 1923, baptized 15th of July 1923
Gudrun Helene
Parents: Arthur Marenius Valeur, born 1893 and wife Jenny Mathilde, maiden name Hansen, born 1894
Address: Ø. Bankegd. 6
Goodparents: widow Mathilde Hansen, Mrs Valborg Karlsen, the child’s father, Marinius Karlsen

Looked through 1928 without finding any other children.

Marriage records of Arthur Marinius and Jenny Mathilde’s children:

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. Ga 0017 (1944-1949), Ekteviede 1944, side 5. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7361&i...
Marriage 4th of March 1944
Reidar Johan Sverre Bye, born 29th of October 1913 in Sarpsborg, police
Astrid Margrete Valeur, born 12th of March 1915 in Hakden, bookbinder
Grooms father: Johan Iversen Bye
Brides father: Arthur Valeur

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. Ga 0017 (1944-1949), Ekteviede 1945, side 11. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4899&i...
Marriage 27th of January 1945
Karlo Åkermann, born 17th of July 1917, Halden, mechanic
Else Marie Valeur, born 2nd of June 1821, Halden, shoe worker
Grooms father: Edvin Åkermann
Brides father: Arthur Marinius Valeur

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. Ga 0017 (1944-1949), Ekteviede 1948, side 69. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4899&i...
Marriage 19th of June 1948
Kaare Emanuel Valeur, born 4th of January 1920, Halden
Synnøve Strøm, born 24th of April 1920, Asak
Grooms father: Arthur Marinius Valeur
Brides father: Martin Strøm

Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkerbok nr. Ga 0017 (1944-1949), Ekteviede 1948, side 75. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7361&i...
Marriage 18th of September 1948
Arne/Arve Gustav Bohlin, born 28th of May 1924, Berg
Gerd Helene Valeur, born 23rd of June 1923, Halden
Grooms father: Gustav Viktor Bohlin
Brides father; Arthur Marinius Valeur

I’ve not found Reidar Marinius’ marriage record in Fredrikshald/Halden. According to the information we have got indicated that he got married abt 1939/40. We don’t know the name or where his wife came from, but we know that they had 3 children and the lady that replied to the picture enquiry will contact them next week.

Jill, I’ve also made an update of this new information on my enquiry on http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=345585#34...

Regards,
Arna

It's great to see such a good success! Start saving your $$ for that trip to Norway!

And thanks for posting it again here. I looked on the 1900 census too and couldn't find Jenny, at least not in østfold.

Taryn

Thanks so much for posting updates here and on the Norwegian site. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

Jill

Hi,
...just a bad habit of mine, used to be an accountant, he, he... better keep the record strait...

Arna

Hey, there is nothing wrong with updating all of the posts. That's my style.