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Michel Filong(e) and Julia Nissec - from Estonia to Pennsylvania, USA

jessicaclark1011 — 2009-12-27 12:17:57Z

My great great grandparents were Michel Filong/Filonge (b. 1885) and Julia Nissec (b. 1891, d. 1971). On the 1930 US Census, they are living in Nazareth, Pennsylvania, USA, but they are listed as being from Russia, which is crossed out, and then Estonia is written. Their parents are from Estonia as well, and they speak German. Does anyone know what this means in terms of a region where they were from? They left Estonia in 1910 for the U.S.

I would like to find out who their parents are, as well as any Estonian records. If anyone has any information pertaining to this query, or would like to share research, please email me at jessicaclark1011@gmail.com

Re: Last name Martinen ( Marttinen)

adastra81 — 2009-11-28 18:24:46Z

Hi, Robert,

Have your ancestors/relatives kept in touch with their families who stayed in Finland?... I have been trying to build my ancestry chain(i.e., tree), but so far - unsuccessfully. All info I have is that in the 18th/19th c they lived somewhere around Karelia area. Some of them( i.e., my direct greatgrandparents) ended up in Russia after the WWII. Others ( their cousins, siblings etc) stayed in Finland. I hope I can trace them as far back as only possible, but at this point i cannot even get as far as 19th c. So, if you happen to have any leads/tips/info etc, I will greatly appreciate that.Who knows, maybe some of mine came to Finland from Sweden in 1600s, or something like that.

Re: Last name Martinen ( Marttinen)

Robert_Persson — 2009-11-28 12:25:47Z

Hello.
I am of Martinens and my ancestors first came to the finnforest in sweden in the early 1600. It is the same relative that went to usa and whos son signed the constiotiotion that had changed his name to John Morton.

Re: von Fersen von Fersen, von Versen, de Versen, de Versne Family

svenalex — 2009-10-25 20:30:35Z

I would really like to hear more from you. I'm interested in how we may be related. My email is svenalex@hotmail.com

Look forward to hearing from you soon,

Sven

Re: von Fersen von Fersen, von Versen, de Versen, de Versne Family

cavversen — 2009-10-24 15:35:03Z

hi there we are some of the gaps lol we live in mexico please contact me

Re: Surname: Matve of Tallinn

mermaidofthe7seas — 2009-10-13 18:13:54Z

If you go to www.familysearch.org you will find the following entry.

Hubert Matve, born 19 Dec. 1929, Tallinn, Harjumaa, Estonia

Died: 30 Mar. 1993

Depending upon their ancestry, many fled Estonia and Latvia in 1939 under the Hitler/Stalin Non-Agression Pact. Some went to Sweden, Finland, others to what soon became German occupied Poland when WWII broke out.

Surname: Matve of Tallinn

jen__ — 2009-10-13 10:46:51Z

I'm looking for information on birth histories, deaths from my Estonian family. The Matve's lived in Estonia before the war and many died in the crossfire. Any suggestions of where to look would be helpful.

Re: Ancestors of Kokser

volvopede — 2009-10-05 19:53:50Z

Hello, I am Tõnis kokser and if your ancestors was born in estonia then you hawe to be my relative, because there ise only one Kokser family tree in Estonya.

Re: von Fersen von Fersen, von Versen, de Versen, de Versne Family

JonNormandin46 — 2009-09-27 22:51:55Z

Hi Sven,

I am a male Fersen using a different name and have tested my DNA. If you would like to chat you can e-mail me at jonnormandin@aol.com

August Tamm

Margaret_Tamm — 2009-09-22 18:00:53Z

spouse Marie Vali, son Richard Alexander b 1916
area known to have lived -Tartu, Estonia

Re: Sou or Sow & Praggy

Margaret_Tamm — 2009-09-22 16:30:29Z

Surname Soo as in Soomaa National Park in Estonia is pronounced 'sew' - could be a connection - there is a village in the park where the name Soo may have originated.

Surnames Kok, Kuppar, Metsawas, Kerm, Strand

royroy89 — 2009-09-15 11:49:54Z

Sangaste area anyone related to these names Marriage Kerm to Strand and Kok to Kuppar

Jogis of Hiiumaa

royroy89 — 2009-09-10 00:08:12Z

Does anyone know of info of Konrad Jogis and his Brother Elias born Hiiumaa-Soru Emmaste Estonia.I have dates etc estonian info but am looking to see the extended heritage of this line from america.My Grandfather is their brother.
They have a niece still alive in Tallinn who is 84.

Re: Reinhold Undritz of Tallin

wefox_1 — 2009-09-02 10:43:05Z

I could have written what you did. I am related in that
Reinhold Undritz was my grandfather. If you get any leads would you be good enough to share them with me. Marie Meiren was my grandmother.Thank you.Elizabeth Ferwerda Fox

Re: UNDRITZ of Tallinn

peacerainbow2002 — 2009-09-02 00:43:03Z

Thanks so much to all of you for the info---yes I believe the Undritzes were from Estonia and his wife was Latvian--they did speak German and were Lutheran. I will do what you suggested!! To me, it seems to be a rare name ??? I appreciate all your help, as I am rather new at this!

Re: UNDRITZ of Tallinn

mermaidofthe7seas — 2009-09-02 00:36:59Z

My parents were both born in Estonia. They said that although they do not personally know any "UNDRITZ" or "von UNDRITZ", they recognize the name as being Baltic.

I "Googled" and found Adolf Oskar UNDRITZ (1864 to 1933) was Pastor at St. Nikolai Kirche (German word for church) in Reval (German word for Tallinn). This would have been a German Lutheran church at the time.

He may have studied theology at the University of Tartu (Dorpat in German) in Estonia, as this was the only University that provided this education in Estonia.

If you go on the LDS site - www.familysearch.org, you will find more "UNDRITZ" listed including Adolf Oskar UNDRITZ mentioned above in Estonia.

There is also a Mr. von UNDRITZ in St. Petersburg Russia, but no first name. The "von" would suggest he was Baltic nobility, perhaps knighted by the then reigning Russian Czar.

Best of luck with your search,

Re: Reinhold Undritz of Tallin

tundern — 2009-09-01 23:22:47Z

Try searching for "Niguliste kirik" instead of "St. Nickolai church" and see if you get more information.

Re: Reinhold Undritz of Tallin

peacerainbow2002 — 2009-09-01 15:59:19Z

Hi Elizabeth--you may contact me directly at the peacerainbow2002@yahoo.com e-mail---my mom is (was)Elizabeth(Betty) Undritz Merkel--my dad is Edward--are you the Elizabeth who used to visit mom and dad in Lake City?? I would love to talk to you--peace--Barbara

Sou or Sow & Praggy

papabear7757 — 2009-06-09 18:48:01Z

Looking for a Helgiar Sou (Sow) who married(surname Praggy). She would have been born in Estonia the 1920's and may have been in a German Camp at some point. Any info or pointers appreciated.

Re: Obituaries in Estonia

DaveB1926 — 2009-04-24 23:40:22Z

Still anxiously awaiting a reply. If it is deemed too commercial for Rootsweb rules, please reply privately. DWBGEN at Verizon.net

Last name Martinen ( Marttinen)

adastra81 — 2009-04-19 23:55:35Z

I have already posted my search for one side of my family - Erlakas, who supposedly lived in Estonia. I am also looking for another side of my family with last name Martinen ( or Marttinen), who are supposedly from Finland. From what I have found out they both -the Erlakas and the Martinen families - were in and out of Estonia, Finland, Karelia. At one point they are were somewhere under St. Petersburg ( Russia). I believe, at one point, the ethnic/cultural group, with which they were associated, was referred to as "inhermaland" ( or "ingermaland" or something sounding like that).

I have already tried some of the links some people kindly forwarded to me - some of them did not contain the info, while others turned out to contain extensive church records, which I started researching. So far - nothing certain.

I will appreciate any help/leads.

Thank you.

Obituaries in Estonia

DaveB1926 — 2009-04-18 00:40:12Z

Does anyone on here have a website or an address for newspaper obituaries or an obituary index in Estonia for 1975 to 1980. Thank you.

Dr. Jan Oja

DOja96 — 2009-04-14 02:59:11Z

Searching for any information about my father, Dr. Jan Oja, born 4/13 1896, who left Austria in 1950 to return to Estonia, where he was born. Would love to find relatives. I will be traveling to Tallin in June 09. Thank you.

Re: Surname: Erlaskas

adastra81 — 2009-04-12 22:33:52Z

Thank you - I will check out that website. I do not think there is a place of birth in the passport... I think, only Birth Certificates have that... However, I will double check and see what I can find. UNderstanding how important it is to know the place of birth/residence, I have been trying to find out what it was, but most people, who would know, are gone, and no one seems to really know... Anyways, I will check the website. Thank you so much !!!

Re: Surname: Erlaskas

tundern — 2009-04-12 22:20:46Z

Does the Soviet passport give a place of birth? If it does, the next step could be to explore the on-line scanned church and other records on Saaga, http://www.eha.ee/saaga. This site also requires registration, but is available in English as well as Estonian.

Re: Surname: Erlakas

adastra81 — 2009-04-12 17:45:27Z

Dear Kat,

Thank you very much - I will check that site out, even though I do not know Estonian;-(. Right now I am trying to find out where they lived exactly - Once I know, i will post. And yes, I will keep an eye on Hytti.
Astra

Re: Surname: Erlaskas

kimkatrin — 2009-04-12 12:46:17Z

It would help if you knew where they lived in Estonia. Or possibly which congregation they were with. You can use the following link (unfortunately only in Estonian) to get access to old church books, etc.
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/addon/nimreg/

You need to register for the site too.

Hope this helps :)

Also, on a different note, if anyone happens to know anyone who once was called Hytti (Hütti) and now lives in Alaska, USA, I'd appreciate any new information.

Kat

Surname: Erlaskas

adastra81 — 2009-04-12 12:45:48Z

My great grandmother was from Estonia, her maiden name was Erlakas ( or so it was written in her official Soviet passport, although, it might be spelled differently in Estonian). I am trying to build out family tree and trace our ancestors as far back as possible, So, if anyone happens to have any leads/ideas/suggestions for me, I will greatly appreciate that.
Thank you

Reinmann V. Baeckmann - Estonia

freinman — 2009-03-18 11:31:24Z

I am interested in the Reinmann,v. Baeckmann, and Hausmann families in Werro, (now Voru), Estonia. Johann Reinmann married Amalia Theresia von Baechmann 3 July 1835 in Werro. Their youngest daughter was the mother of my grandfather, Friedrich Alwill Reinmann in 1864. According to the church records, the father was a Max Hausmann. I am particulaly interested in the parents and possible siblings of Johann Reinmann as well as information on his birth and death (before 1880).

Thank you for any help with this. I will share information I have on these families.

Fred Reinman

Re: Gundemar Neggo

Galaxy999 — 2009-03-11 05:32:17Z

Hello,

I am starting a family tree online that starts with Peerna Ants Neggo. Gundemar's grandfather.

Reinhold Undritz of Tallin

peacerainbow2002 — 2009-02-28 13:24:09Z

Can anyone help me find my ancestors? The info we have is that my great-grandfather Reinhold Undritz---had some link to nobility.(count or duke???) They lived in and around Tallin. He married Marie Mieren from Latvia and they immigrated to NYC,usa about 1885??--his relative (father) was the pastor at St. Nickolai church in Tallin--we have been told??and was married to an actress??
I have looked on many sites and find very little on the name Undritz--any help would be greatly appreciated!! There is also supposed to be a connection to the gardens at St. Petersburg/ and or the czarist government????

Re: Family name PAABO near Võnnu, Tartumaa, Estonia

jasche — 2009-02-22 12:28:29Z

Can you upload the image to the board? This would make it easier for all to view it.

Family name PAABO near Võnnu, Tartumaa, Estonia

LindaStallwitzDrew — 2009-02-22 10:59:26Z

I have a family photograph taken about 1957 in Võnnu, Estonia showing the Paabo family and close friends... need help identifying the 52 people in the photo. I have been able to identify: Arnold Paabo, Salme Paabo, Aleksander Savik, Albert & Aliide Paabo, Aksel Paabo, Armilde & Herman Paabo.

Re: Newspaper Article Translation

marike76 — 2009-02-05 23:58:29Z

Hi Scott,

I can help you with this, I hope it won't me long since it seems to in old Estonian. I hope I can send you translation soon. My e.mail is marike@telus.net, you can email me directly.

Mari

Newspaper Article Translation

wmorgan_1 — 2009-02-02 14:51:49Z

I have a copy of an Estonian newspaper article from 1934 that I would like to have translated. This article contains information about my wife's great-grandfather.

I have tried to translate it myself with very little success. The Estonian language is quite complicated! I was wondering if anyone on this message board could translate it, or refer me to a good translation service.

Thanks!

Scott

Re: Satfeldt, Saatweldt, Tsaatfeldtt, Sackvie, Saatfeld

DMcDonald9940 — 2009-01-30 02:29:02Z

1910 census shows Edward Satfield living with his sister, Ottilie and her husband, Leo Schmitt and daugther, Ottilie.

Is Leo Schmitt the first husband of Ottilie?

What happen to the daughter Ottilie?

Please email me at Dinah702@aol.com

Re: Family Allas and Oder from Saaremaa ?

MarySprakes — 2009-01-24 15:37:50Z

I am wondering if we may have a connection. My grandfather Alexander Adder (Ader) came from Saaremaa. We have no exact birth date but believe it was c. 1880. His father was Johannes Ader and his mother Engel Allak.I am his only grandchild in the UK. I have reason to believe his family were farmers but he was one of the youngest brothers and ran away to sea about 1895 to avoid conscription. Could Oder have been mis-translated as Ader?

Re: Igor Aier menioned in the magazine TUNA

tiiujh — 2009-01-06 21:21:59Z

Hi,
Sorry! My mistake, You have the correct article. I misread the the hit in Google as it mentioned two different numbers of the magazine.

Tiiu

Re: Satfeldt, Saatweldt, Tsaatfeldtt, Sackvie, Saatfeld

eileensmmrs — 2009-01-05 21:11:18Z

I believe Edward is my mother's grandfather. Her maiden name is Satfeldt. Edward had a son named Walter, my mom's dad. He passed away in 1936. I will ask her tonite regarding your message.

Satfeldt, Saatweldt, Tsaatfeldtt, Sackvie, Saatfeld

2009-01-05 21:10:55Z

Edward Gustav Satfeldt was born 8 Sep 1863 in Reval (now Tallinn), Harju, Estonia, and was confirmed in Reval's St. Johannis Church 21 May 1881. His oldest child, dau Ottilie Alide Satfeldt, was also born in Reval 8 July 1886. His 1st wife, name unknown and mother of Ottilie, died. 2nd marriage was to Annette Tamm, Ottilie's stepmother.

Do you know anything about the Satfeldt family of Reval. Would like to know who Edward's parents/siblings were or name of Ottilie's mother.

Above I've listed alternative spellings of the name. We Americanized it years ago.

Re: Igor Aier menioned in the magazine TUNA

wmorgan_1 — 2009-01-05 20:21:39Z

I appreciate your suggestion.

I had sent an email to someone on the Tuna website the same day I posted this message. The individual I contacted was extremely helpful and I have already received a copy of the issue I was looking for.

I am curious though, the article I was looking for is in 2006, nr. 4, and is written by Valdur Ohmann. Does the article you mention by Jens Peder ANDERSEN contain additional information regarding Igor Aier (or any other Aier)?

If so, I may need to find this article as well.

Thank you for your help.

Scott

Re: SARV

tiiujh — 2009-01-03 10:43:54Z

If you are looking for ancestors I suggest you try sending your question to http://www.isik.ee/foorum/ which is the Estonian genealogy forum. You have to register, but it is free.

Tiiu

SARV

jlugus — 2009-01-03 01:27:44Z

Looking for any information on Juhann Johann Johannes SARV born ca. 1895 TAAGEPERE, VILJANDI, ESTONIA. Believed disappeared during WWII. Thank you.

Re: Igor Aier menioned in the magazine TUNA

tiiujh — 2009-01-02 15:04:20Z

Back copies can be bought according to their home page. You might try to send an e-mail in English to someone from the "Juhatus" page

TUNA's home page is http://www.eay.ee/main.php?id=tuna

The article you want is
Jens Peder ANDERSEN. Revolutsiooniaasta 1905. 2005, nr. 4, lk. 73-81.

Tiiu

Igor Aier menioned in the magazine TUNA

wmorgan_1 — 2008-12-15 12:37:36Z

While digging around on the net, I came across a magazine called TUNA which appears to be published in Estonia. One of the issues contains an article about an Estonian named Igor Aier who was imprisoned by the Russians in the early 1940's. There is a very good chance that this individual was my wife's great uncle. Her grandmother (maiden name Aier) was from Estonia and became seperated from her family around 1943 or 1944. Her brother Igor disappeared after returning from fighting in the Spanish Civil war.

Is anyone familiar with this publication or does anyone have any idea how I can purchase a back issue? The summaries were the only thing written in English on the webiste where I found it, and unfortunately I cannot read Estonian.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Scott

Re: Gundemar Neggo

janenepearson63 — 2008-12-07 10:14:28Z

hi ivar neggo in sydney has or had a brother olaf who lived in cottlesloe w.a. australia. I was married to mark neggo back in 1984 he still lives in syd his dad is ivar, olaf's brother. Warner is marks older brother hope this helps

Re: Nomme, near Reval, Estonia

saareprints — 2008-11-17 05:21:32Z

? http://aronoff.com/family/i0007167.htm#s892
Cemeteries search near Tallinn (Reval) give nothing: http://www.kalmistud.ee/eng/otsingud/maetu_otsing/matotsing

Nomme, near Reval, Estonia

tag2tam — 2008-11-16 23:44:49Z

My great great grandmother, Chaja Gaitz (DOB 1853 in Novo-Vorontska, Ukraine) resided in Nomme near Reval in 1923. Her husband, Sheftel Hirsh Gaitz date of death is January 24, 1921.

If someone could tell me how to obtain additional information on Sheftel and any relatives, I would be greatly appreciative!

Re: Gundemar Neggo

freshlycut — 2008-11-07 11:04:46Z

I am married to Mark Neggo son of Ivar Neggo. Brother of Warner and Anthony Neggo. Mother Ellen . Resides in Sydney Australia. Owns own business for 13 years. Mark has 3 children Emma 19 Jack 15 Webb 11.

Re: PAROL, PARROL

asiajade71 — 2008-10-14 17:35:52Z

My late father, frederick father's last name was Parol.He is Filipino.