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boatiesgirl  (View posts) Posted: 27 May 2009 12:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McKinlay
Mary Helen Mckinlay was born in 1884. l would like to know her marriage and death dates.
Also, was there a sanitorium or hospital at Glenorchy in the early 1900s as her brother and sister died at "lake Wakatipu" re the in memorial notices.

Re: Mary Helen McKinlay

barryjan146  (View posts) Posted: 27 May 2009 1:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
these marriages could be connected
year 1904 folio 4590 Mary Helen MCKINLEY (yes thats the spelling) and William CLINGIN, he died c1918(according to Inv Burial and cremations Index, there is also a marriage of Mary Helen MCKINLEY to Alfred Lewis GROVES folio 1920. cant find her burial,but on the archway (Archives N Z website there is a link http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=13703523 possible probate/Will details for Mary Helen GROVES year 1908 and the address was Glenorchy. not sure if they are connected but worth a look,

Jan

Re: Mary Helen McKinlay

amandadickson88  (View posts) Posted: 28 May 2009 12:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Groves, Clingin, McKinlay
The sanitorium was probably a TB hospital/retreat. You may find out lots about it by looking at old newspapers:
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/
(this site can be searched for exact dates by process of elimination ie. try 01/01/1883 to 30/06/1883 and keep narrowing the search by half... etc...
marriage
1904/4016 Mary Helen McKinley William Clingin
1920/10511 Mary Helen Clingin Alfred Louis Groves

births
1883/4744 McKinlay Mary Helen, Elizabeth, Robert
born 11 January 1883

deaths
1918/15598 Clingin William 45Y

burial
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname CLINGIN
Given Names William
Year of Death 1918
Record Number n/r
Record Type B/R
Age n/r
Location Invercargill Cremations & Burials T01.40

There are other Clingin burials in the same cemetery for 1956 & 1979.

Glenorchy burials:
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname CLINGIN
Given Names John W J
Year of Death 1936
Record Number 11
Record Type B/R
Age 34
Location Glenorchy: 1863-1980: S.05.05

and this same person???:
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname CLINGIN
Given Names John William
Year of Death 1936
Record Number 49
Record Type M/I
Age 35
Location Glenorchy Cemetery Central Otago S05.05

Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname MACKINLAY
Given Names Essie Arundel
Year of Death 1902
Record Number 37
Record Type B/R
Age 17
Location Glenorchy: 1863-1980: S.05.05

Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname MACKINLAY
Given Names Walter
Year of Death 1907
Record Number 38
Record Type B/R
Age 16
Location Glenorchy: 1863-1980: S.05.05

The last two burials you should be able to refine and find on the historical website for BDM, as above. The parents Elizabeth and Robert you may also find details on the BDM site.

two entries for Mary, one burial and one for M/I (monument)

Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname GROVES
Given Names Mary Helen
Year of Death 1968
Record Number 24
Record Type B/R
Age 86
Location Glenorchy: 1863-1980: S.05.05

Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname GROVES
Given Names Mary Helen
Year of Death 1968
Record Number 52
Record Type M/I
Age 86
Location Glenorchy Cemetery Central Otago S05.05

one for her husband:
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname GROVES
Given Names Alfred Lewis
Year of Death 1965
Record Number 52
Record Type M/I
Age 85
Location Glenorchy Cemetery Central Otago S05.05

also in same cemetery
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname GROVES
Given Names Huntly
Year of Death 1975
Record Number 53
Record Type M/I
Age 61
Location Glenorchy Cemetery Central Otago S05.05

because the last three are M/I's you will have to check the burials records found at major NZ libraries to see if they are buried here as well.


http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/130/cenotaph-database/
no records for William Clingin WWI

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/
No records for Mary or William

1893 Electoral roll: four records under Mary McKinlay, three which may be relevant. All 3 living in or near Dunedin. (one is listed for Port Chalmers and an Elizabeth is listed for P.C as well)
No records on roll for a William Clingin or his surname only.

There is a school record:
School Records (APWs)

Name
CLINGIN William
School
Caversham
Register Number
0668
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
16 Jul 1883
Parent / Guardian

Address
Caversham
Birthdate
30 Jun 1875
Last School

Last Day
20 Feb 1884
Destination

Comment
HKN 26/82/J/0668 :
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG

which could be your William although the death age does not line up exactly.

There are also school records for Essie and Walter if you would like them.

There is a marriage cert at the NZSG
NZSG Certificates Collection which could be your Mary (if you narrow down on the BDM site and discover they are the same date you will know she married at Arrowtown.

Name
McKINLAY Mary
Date
14 Feb 1904
Event

Place
Arrowtown OTG NZ
Reference
CTF21734-002
Further enquiries to
NZSG Certificates Collection

There are records of Elizabeth and Robert McKinlay in the NZ First Families Collection.They could be Mary's parents. if I get time in the next couple of days I will look them up for you.

The probate/will for Alfred is held at Dunedin archives:
Name
GROVES Alfred Lewis
Place
Glenorchy
Occupation
Retired Farmer
Death Date

Court
Invercargill
Archives Reference
DAFG 9069 D328 208/65
Probate Number
208/65
Filed Date
6 May 1965
Type
Will
Comments

Further enquiries to
Archives NZ - Dunedin

Hope this helps for a starter.
Amanda

Re: Mary Helen McKinlay

boatiesgirl  (View posts) Posted: 31 May 2009 12:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for all this information,l really appriciate it! l thought shed dropped off the face of the earth! Mary

Re: Mary Helen McKinlay

boatiesgirl  (View posts) Posted: 12 Jul 2009 4:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
l would like the school records of the other children as well as mary too, thanks a lot!

Re: Mary Helen McKinlay

amandadickson88  (View posts) Posted: 12 Jul 2009 8:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McKinlay, Carter
You will note the birth date in the school records does not match with the death age of this Walter, however given where the family lived I think this is a probability.

School Records (APWs)

Name
McKINLAY Walter
School
Caversham
Register Number
1688
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
13 Jun 1892
Parent / Guardian

Address
Darley
Birthdate
15 May 1887
Last School
None
Last Day
22 Jun 1892
Destination
Sickness 72
Comment
HKN 26/82/J/1688 :
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG

School Records (APWs)

Name
McKINLAY Walter
School
Caversham
Register Number
0072
Former Reg. No
1688
Admission Date
20 Feb 1893
Parent / Guardian

Address
Caversham
Birthdate
15 May 1887
Last School
Caversham
Last Day
30 Mar 1893
Destination
Left district
Comment
HKN 26/82/L/0072 :
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG

School Records (APWs)

Name
McKINLAY Walter
School
Outram
Register Number
0693
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
24 Apr 1893
Parent / Guardian
Mr McKinlay
Address
Outram
Birthdate
15 May 1887
Last School
Caversham
Last Day
25 Jun 1894
Destination
Strath Taieri
Comment
HKN AG465/1/0693:
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG

School Records (APWs)

Name
McKINLAY Walter
School
Strath Taieri
Register Number
269
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
10 Mar 1894
Parent / Guardian
Robert McKinlay
Address
Dunedin
Birthdate
15 May 1887
Last School
Outram
Last Day
20 Dec 1894
Destination
Dunedin
Comment
HKN 93/017/1/269:
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG
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This record seems out of place, cannot see how she was enroled at 2 different schools at same time, however the enrol/leave dates may be incorrect:

School Records (APWs)

Name
MCKINLAY Essie
School
Naseby
Register Number
855
Former Reg. No

Admission Date

Parent / Guardian
CARTER Mrs
Address
Naseby
Birthdate
04 Jun 1884
Last School

Last Day
05 Nov 1897
Destination
Dunedin
Comment

Further enquiries to
Alexandra Branch - NZSG

School Records (APWs)

Name
McKINLAY Essie
School
Caversham
Register Number
1643
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
2 Mar 1891
Parent / Guardian

Address
Caversham
Birthdate
04 Jun 1884
Last School
Kensington
Last Day
30 Mar 1893
Destination
Left district
Comment
HKN 26/82/K/1643 :
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG

School Records (APWs)

Name
McKINLAY Essie
School
Outram
Register Number
0689
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
10 Apr 1893
Parent / Guardian
Mr McKinlay
Address
Outram
Birthdate
04 May 1884
Last School
Caversham
Last Day
20 Dec 1893
Destination
Strath Taieri
Comment
HKN AG465/1/0689:
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG

School Records (APWs)

Name
MCKINLAY Essie
School
Naseby
Register Number
855
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
5 Oct 1897
Parent / Guardian
CARTER Mrs
Address
Naseby
Birthdate
04 Jun 1884
Last School

Last Day
05 Nov 1897
Destination
Dunedin
Comment

Further enquiries to
Alexandra Branch - NZSG

School Records (APWs)

Name
McKINLAY Essie Arundel
School
Strath Taieri
Register Number
268
Former Reg. No

Admission Date
10 Mar 1894
Parent / Guardian
Robert McKinlay
Address
Dunedin
Birthdate
04 Jun 1884
Last School
Outram
Last Day
20 Dec 1894
Destination
Dunedin
Comment
HKN 93/017/1/268:
Further enquiries to
Dunedin Branch - NZSG

I have not been able to establish if any records in the First Family collection are your Robert without more family surnames to go by.

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