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Walter KING Family of Methven

capers49 — 2013-04-14 02:06:20Z

Hi there, Im tracing my ggg/f WALTER KING, only his name on my GGf death cert, but he was born 1838. I think he came from Scotland to Methven, maybe via Melbourne, had my GGF JOHN KING in METHVEN NZ, Walter was a miner, I found one Walter that came with a Henry to NZ on "Maori" 1858 another on 'Clutha"and a good one Walter, William and a Mrs. King on "Elizabeth Ann Bright" ept 1860. Anyone know anything of this KING family. Thanks Carol capers49@hotmail.com

james winfield jordan

flodjod — 2013-03-31 00:55:37Z

looking for how he got to NZ from australia with his wife ellen and I think 6 children circa 1878, he has a child being born nz 1879. he is recorded as being a draper in christchurch in papers past in 1895, he was married in victoria 1858 and as far as i can see he stayed there till coming to nz

Costello - originating from Temuka?

warriormonkster — 2013-03-13 11:28:29Z

Hi All.

My Pop (Edward Michael Costello) hailed from Temuka - his mum was called "Margaret" (don't know her last name) and his dad was William.

I think his Dad's side also had the name "Ponsonby?"

If this rings any bells any help would be appreciated.

Mike

Oxford Cemetery-Completed with Thanks

jackiepeter13 — 2013-02-12 09:44:50Z

Please if anyone is visiting this cemetery would you be prepared to take 2 grave photographs for me?

I have the plot locations.

Many Thanks
Jackie
UK

Re: Oxford Cemetery

jackiepeter13 — 2013-02-12 09:44:01Z

Many thanks I have sent you a PM
Jackie

Re: Oxford Cemetery

tonyfuller132 — 2013-02-12 09:05:04Z

I will be in Oxford on Friday. Details?

Re: Hansen/ Rosendale

ggs_seven — 2013-01-29 19:00:24Z

Go to passenger list Cardigan Bay from London arr NZ 15th Nov 1873. Also ,in case you havent seen these. a death for nels Hansen Rosendale at his residence in Templeton 2nd Jan 1889 aged 59 years...death for his wife 10th May 1898 Louisa wife of the late Neils Rosendale aged 65 ( Louisa was involved with the Temperance movement in NZ)a death notice for their youngest dau Laurina Catherine aged 15 on 12th Oct 1883 at Templeton.

Hansen/ Rosendale

ChristineHansen77 — 2013-01-25 02:51:18Z

Hi, I'm looking for information on these two families who began their life in NZ in the Templeton area.
They came from Denmark.

thanks

Re: Waimakariri database 2000

JanSaundercock12 — 2012-12-18 09:45:21Z

Glen
Thanks for the link. I have been able to get the latest contact info on each of the museums involved, so will email them and see what info each holds.
Jan

Re: Waimakariri database 2000

Currey_nz — 2012-12-18 04:35:30Z

http://www.waimakariri.govt.nz

Hope this helps.
Cheers, Glen

Waimakariri database 2000

JanSaundercock12 — 2012-12-18 02:31:53Z

Some years ago I accessed this index and recently tried to contact the Cust & District Historical Society to get copies of some the original documents listed in the index which were connected with the Sa(u)ndercock family. My emails have been returned, and letters are not producing a response. Can anybody assist with advice on how I can contact this Society or how to access this information?

Re: Fernside-Rangiora

Lyns2000 — 2012-11-29 23:14:42Z

Hallo there,
Sam lived in the old house at fernside where he was born, once married. My husband Stuart is SAMs and ivys son. We have original photo of James and Maryann smith, with their death dates. Both are interred at the Rangiora cemetery. Sam still has original deed to farm.
Although Sam is in care he still great source of info for the family. If we can help, let us know.
Kind regards
Lyn

Re: Information please .. Sullivan Family and Descendants

efrancis150 — 2012-10-01 05:27:12Z

Hi Alex,
John Sullivan and Elizabeth Vincent migrated to NZ on the same ship, the "Mersey", which arrived at Christchurch on 29 May, 1862 - see the New Zealand Immigration and Passenger Lists at https://www.familysearch.org

Hope this is useful!

Re: Information please .. Sullivan Family and Descendants

AlexGlennie49 — 2012-09-30 06:35:13Z

Greetings

Most interesting thank you but a different John Sullivan and Elizabeth Vincent.

Elizabeth came out to New Zealand with her mother and family on the sv Chile to Dunedin in 1861.

http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlists/chile.html

The marriage record for John Sullivan and Elizabeth Vincent in 1869 has his age at 30 and her 18 years. This information doesn't quite fit with the passenger list for the SV Mersey in 1862. I believe they are different people.

http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlists/mersey.html

Many thanks for your interest and time.

AlexG

Re: John Rogers-Spouse - Lillas Jane Stafford

wendyh651 — 2012-09-30 02:12:03Z

Have you looked for births at BDM Online - Historical Records (https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/) for descendants of these people? If any were born more than 100 years ago, you may find them there. Note that parents aren't always listed for pre-1875 births, but that is being worked on at the moment, so you may have different results from your search later on.

You can purchase copies of registrations on that site. Be sure to get the printout, not the legal certificate, for family history purposes. (I explain why at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NEW-ZEALAND/20...)

Do check at https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/ to see exactly what information should have been gathered at the time of the event. Some of the earlier registrations (such as marriages before 1880) don't contain sufficient data to be considered useful to us family historians, so it's a waste of money to buy a copy.

If you don't want to order online, or are dealing with more recent events that aren't on the historical site and don't have an iGovt registration, you can order via ordinary mail - go to Births, Deaths & Marriages (BDM, http://www.bdm.govt.nz/), click on the button "Births", then click on the link "Obtain application forms and find the associated fees", then "Birth, Death, Marriage, Civil Union or Name Change certificate or printout", then "Request for Birth Certificate or Printout BDM 93B". Print this form, complete it with what you know, and send it off with your payment. You can also call them and place an order over the phone.

If you are a member of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists (NZSG, http://www.genealogy.org.nz/) enquire at their Certificates Collection before making purchases at BDM. If they're holding what you're looking for, it is much cheaper.

Another route for finding children is death records. Start with the BDM site above. A death registration should list the age and sex of any "living issue", or children who survived the parent. Take that information to the BDM site if over 100 years ago, otherwise go to the older microfiche indexes that you'll find in libraries and genealogy groups around the country.

Also look at Archway (http://archway.archives.govt.nz/), the online index for Archives New Zealand (http://www.archives.govt.nz/) for probate files. You can walk into the office where a file is held and view it for free (assuming there are no viewing restrictions, which will be noted at Archway), or you can ask a friend to visit and take photos for you, or you can pay a fee to Archives and have them send you a copy of the file.

Other methods I use for finding descendants is listing the family tree on one (or more) of the sites that let you do that for free. My current favourite is My Heritage (http://www.myheritage.com/) - their data matching with other people's trees is very good - and I also use Genes Reunited (http://www.genesreunited.com/) and Ancestry.com. It's free to load your tree at all of these sites, and by doing so you may make contact with someone else also researching that family who know things you don't. I've made good contacts through all three sites.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

John Rogers-Spouse - Lillas Jane Stafford

1_jg2 — 2012-09-30 01:46:26Z

John Rogers B abt 1882 Lanarkshire Glasgow was 1 of 5 children. Father-Henry William Rogers(William Henry) B 1862 Scotland D 1927 Ashburton NZ. Mother-Marion Grant B 1858 D 1941 Ashburton NZ. (My Great Grandparents). John married Lillas Jane Stafford 18/06/1908 Glasgow. They had 2 children-Jessie (married Alex Wilson from Nairn Scotland) and Harry (Henry William)who married Marjory Louise Sandford from Glasgow) All lived in Canterbury NZ. Have address ect off early Census. Looking for decendants. Dates are aprox.

Information please .. Sullivan Family and Descendants

AlexGlennie49 — 2012-09-22 20:21:33Z

Looking for any information or photographs please.

My great great grandparents were John Sullivan (born c 1839 Cork) and Elizabeth Vincent (born 26.07.1852 Cornwall).

John Sullivan and Elizabeth were married at the Lyttleton Catholic Church on 28.10.1869. They had the following family:- Elizabeth Mary 1875, Ellen Jane 1877, Michael Peter 1879, William Joseph 1881, Edward Cornelius 1883 (my great grand father), Harold Mathew 1890 and Patrick Vincent 1893.

I would be interested in making contact with any descendants of the family or an exchange of information with anyone at all with knowledge of the family.... but in particular photographs.

Can be contacted by PM here or by e mail at :-

a.glennie@xtra.co.nz

Anything at all would be much appreciated and valued.

Thank you

Alex G

Jensine Jensen

EdnaJefferson12 — 2012-09-17 07:17:36Z

I am looking for information on Jensine Jensen a Danish lady who married James Robert Upton in Waimate mid 1800s

Re: Jensine Jensen

wendyh651 — 2012-09-17 07:16:47Z

What would you like to find out about your lady?

You can see her marriage in the indexes at BDM Online - Historical Records (https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/):

Registration: 1874/12601
Jensina JENSAN & James Robert UPTON

I found it by searching on the groom's surname, then sorting the results by the bride's surname. Unless I want to specifically narrow down a search, I typically use a start date of 1/1/1840 (which is before registrations started in NZ) to catch all entries that match my search terms.

In the death indexes on the same site, I think this is likely to be her, given how little I know at this stage:

Registration: 1940/25606
Jensine UPTON, aged 90 years

That equates to a birth around 1850.

You can purchase copies of registrations on that site. Be sure to get the printout, not the legal certificate, for family history purposes. (I explain why at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NEW-ZEALAND/20...)

Do check at https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/ to see exactly what information should have been gathered at the time of the event. Some of the earlier registrations (such as marriages before 1880) don't contain sufficient data to be considered useful to us family historians, so it's a waste of money to buy a copy.

Take a look for yourself, and decide if it would be worthwhile TO YOU to get the marriage above.

If you don't want to order online, or are dealing with more recent events that aren't on the historical site and don't have an iGovt registration, you can order via ordinary mail - go to Births, Deaths & Marriages (BDM, http://www.bdm.govt.nz/), click on the button "Births", then click on the link "Obtain application forms and fin the associated fees", then "Birth, Death, Marriage, Civil Union or Name Change certificate or printout", then "Request for Birth Certificate or Printout BDM 93B". Print this form, complete it with what you know, and send it off with your payment.

If you are a member of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists (NZSG, http://www.genealogy.org.nz/) enquire at their Certificates Collection before making purchases at BDM. If they're holding what you're looking for, it is much cheaper.

I have the NZSG CD "New Zealand Burial Locator v2" here, and that is telling me that Jensine is mentioned in a monumental inscription on a headstone in Bromley Cemetery in Christchurch.

Taking that hint, go to the Christchurch City Council's online cemetery database (http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/Cemeteries/) and you'll find a listing for her there, indicating she is indeed buried there.

You may like to track Jensine through the electoral rolls. Some are available on CD at NZSG, and all rolls are at Ancestry if you have access to that (check your local library if you don't have your own subscription at the moment). From what I can see here, Jensine and her husband lived at a place called St Andrews, which in 1911 was in the Temuka electorate.

Both Temuka and Waimate, which you mentioned in your post, are in Canterbury so I will be moving your post and the replies to it from the Southland board to the Canterbury one when I've finished this reply; I administer both boards.

Hope this helps you along your way. Come back and ask more questions if you need more help. :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Re: Jensine Jensen

AlexGlennie49 — 2012-09-16 18:36:20Z

Good Morning Edna

I might be able to assist you. Likely better if you e mail me direct at:-

a.glennie@xtra.co.nz

Cheers

Alex G

Re: William Brown 1894c; Mabel Susan Beattie 1893c

snorkle6 — 2012-09-05 08:17:09Z

Hi.

Sadly not too many replies.

I really don't know all that much about your father Harold and his brothers, Malcolm and Francis. I know a little but again not that much about their daughters, Alice and my grandmother, Phyllis.

I have learnt a bit now about William Leslie Ronald BROWN and his wife, Mabel Susan BROWN (nee BEATTIE)'s parents and their siblings.

I am willing to share with you what I know :).

If you're able to help me, I'd be greatly appreciated.

You wouldn't happen to have a photograph of Francis who was killed in action during WWII? Or of any other people you'd be willing to share with me?

Regards,
Michaela :-)

Re: William Brown 1894c; Mabel Susan Beattie 1893c

lynlockett — 2012-09-05 07:41:04Z

Did you get many replies to your query.

Our father was Harold Graham Brown the youngest son of Mabel and William.

Re: Robert Ward

ward_matthew — 2012-07-13 02:38:00Z

I have done and it has given us lots to look at, once again thanks for your help.

Re: Robert Ward

ward_matthew — 2012-07-12 04:16:14Z

Hi thanks for the heads up, i have passed it on the Robert Ward and Elizabeth set up home in Claremont, all depends on how much land he had it go towards Pareora,
once again Thanks for your help, Matt

Re: Robert Ward

nolam1_1 — 2012-07-12 01:46:32Z

hi again, google( Robert Ward 1830-1875) it will tell you probably all you want to know.

Re: Robert Ward

nolam1_1 — 2012-07-11 20:41:14Z

Voyage of the Strathallan.... it brought familes to Timaru. More than 1 Ward family. Robert and Elizabeth (age 25) and dau Catherine age 4.. There is a Robert Ward (farmer) who died at Pareora, also near Timaru in 1875 at age 44.You could try Historic BDM for more

Re: Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

GretchenBoyd79 — 2012-07-11 06:33:39Z

The Ryans' have a row at Pleasent Point cemetry. The Timaru council presold plots, to save costs.

Re: Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

GretchenBoyd79 — 2012-07-11 06:14:13Z

I have Ryans, in my family. (Granmothers maiden name).
They are catholic, living in inland South Canterbury. Cave, Sutherlands and Taiko.
Grandmas' grandparents were buried in the Rangiora Catholic cemetry, now part of the Catholic school playground. There is a plaque in the playground.
Her father married a Wall. They started out in St Bathans hotel, with family in the Catholic cemetry.
They worked their way north, until buying sheep farms, in South Canterbury. Still family there.
Edward Ryan, a retired Judge, in Christchurch, has family histroy.
There is a small hamlet, near Leeston named Doyleston. Ellesmere Historical Society would have information.

Robert Ward

ward_matthew — 2012-07-11 02:13:47Z

Hi all i am trying to help a person find some info on the above named person, a Robert Ward, by all accounts he came over to NZ on the Strathallan in poss 1858 landing at Lyttleton ( but did the Strathallan make more than one voyage to NZ) with him came his wife Elizabeth and there daughter Catherine, they set up home in the Claremont area just outside Timaru.
If anybody would have any clues, would be great thanks.
Matt

Re: Clark-William & Catherine Clark

martian42 — 2012-06-28 23:00:23Z

http://www.loadsofpeople.co.uk/f_471.html#3

Re: Flying Officer Owen Ellice Foster

robertstudd — 2012-06-15 15:59:20Z

Thank you for your quick response to my request and you have helped me to move a little further.
I was aware of their move and of The Son owen Junior but unaware of the marriage to Heather jane,so thank you.
There are two Daughters out there sumwhere also according to a Public member tree in the 'Private catagory'.
Owen Ellice Senior was still alive in 2001 in Christchurch because of his contribution in a book recording the exploits of New Zealand pilots of WW2,But Olive died in 1975
Regards Bob.

Re: Flying Officer Owen Ellice Foster

jogregory121 — 2012-06-15 09:32:40Z

It looks like Owen & Olive 1st lived in NZ then moved to Aussie. I notice there is a mention of a Owen Ellice FOSTER jnr which I assume is there son.

It seems Owen Ellice Foster's wife is Heather Jane Foster shown here in the 1980 Electoral Roll
___________________________________________________________
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1980

Name:Owen Ellice Foster - Jr Oprtr
Name: Heather Jane Foster - teacher
State: Western Australia
District: Kalgoorlie
Subdistrict: East Pilbara
30 Miniballup Cres, Nwmn
___________________________________________________________

Flying Officer Owen Ellice Foster

robertstudd — 2012-06-13 12:01:38Z

Im looking for any living relatives of Owen Ellice Foster bn 1920 and Olive Sylvia Williams bn 1924.I believe they had three Children.
Olives Mother, Dora Ellen Elizabeth Williams previously Studd nee Hearn was my Grandmother.
thanks.

Re: Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

anne19551955 — 2012-06-13 09:26:04Z

Hi No I haven't looked there at that site..thanks. Sadly work gets in my way of doing many things and also eats into my time on here or anywhere :) So how do I find 'Beverly Evan's' or will I find that when I open your link :)
And that's pretty out there as I have Evan's in my 'birth family' I was born an Evans, but adopted at bith. Funny old world..I often don't feel I actually have a 'family' as such, I was 29 before I was told I was adopted. And yes have found some of them but the Evans side I haven't really looked at after finding my birth father died before I knew I was adopted and his wife at death, well a hole different story, but he is on my birth cert as father, but left that alone. My Uncle who is a Reed comes from the Doyles and Wilson side. And as I was/am closer to him and his Mother who's mother was a daughter of a Doyle and I remember my GGGrans 100th when I was 4. Was why I want to do this family tree for him before he is no longer with us. I thank you very, very much for your help to date..I am hopless at searching and an very greatful for you help as I have seen to date. And I hope I can repay you one day. Kindest thoughts Anne

Re: Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

susan1tpm5b8hv419ma9tbfuq68vq3unto — 2012-06-12 23:26:00Z

Have you checked out this resource that is Canterbury / Christchurch focused:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/

Beverley Evans also has access to the Christchurch Library's BDM card index and has transcribed some of them. I understand there are more WILSON cards available, if you ask her nicely :)

Re: Correction -- Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

anne19551955 — 2012-06-11 05:03:09Z

Thankyou very much for that Susan I did ask Bonnie regarding some of the information she sent to me, as it didn't match some of what I had. But she didn't reply to me. So I thankyou and I can remove those people..from my searching. It was strange that some information was correct and some not. Happy to help if I can and hope if you find anything that might fit with my searching you can do the same. Are you in New Zealand or somewhere else? Just interested...I'm not getting to far with my searching sadly and wanted to get it finished for my Uncles 94 birthday soon. Kind thoughts Anne

Re: Correction -- Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

susan1tpm5b8hv419ma9tbfuq68vq3unto — 2012-06-11 04:25:48Z

I have no info that I can contribute about Catherine Doyle and Edward Wilson and their family.

I just know that Bonnie stated **incorrectly** that Ruth and Martha Rose Kathleen were Catherine and Edward's children. They belong to a totally different Wilson family. And there does not appear to be any linkage.

The Wilson family those children belong to, starts with the migration of Thomas+Martha Wilson from Yorkshire, arriving in Lyttelton on the Lady Jocelyn on 11 Nov 1872.

Thomas+Martha Wilson's children were:
Margaret Hannah (b.1868),
Edward (b.1870, m1.Helena Elizabeth HEYDER, m2.Madeline Jane IVORY, d.1956),
James Tallentire (1872-1872),
James Tallantire (b.1873),
Thomas (b.1875)
Sarah (b.1877),
John Joseph (b.1878, father of previously mentioned Ruth and Martha Rose Kathleen),
William Henry (b.1880),
Martha (b.1882),
Elizabeth (1885-1885),
Agnes (1889-1889)
Richard Atkinson (1891).

Hope this clarifies some things for you. Probably doesn't add to your "family", however if you are able to help me with any of the above, it would be appreciated, thanks.
Susan

Re: Correction -- Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

anne19551955 — 2012-06-11 03:36:19Z

I thank you for your in put I have from Paperspast the marriage notice 17th nov 1902. Wilson Doyle Nov 3rd Edward Wilson, second son of James Wilson, Barry's Bay to Catherine Doyle, fifth daughter of the late John Nicholas Doyle Late of Dunedin. Now I know this is the correct John Doyle and buried with him is his wife Catherine and one of there daughter Mary. And the headstone was put up by Catherine jnr and Husband. So can you please share what information you have so I can look at it against what I have been given Many thanks Anne

Re: Correction -- Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

susan1tpm5b8hv419ma9tbfuq68vq3unto — 2012-06-11 02:55:12Z

Some information about the "Known Children" in this message was incorrect.

To restate:
(2) Catherine, born ??. Arrived NZ either 1888 or 1891.
- Known children: (A) Ruth, born 1911, (B) Martha Rose Kathleen born 21 June 1907, died 1989.

**Correction:**
These children (A) Ruth and (B) Martha Rose Kathleen DID have a mother Catherine WILSON, but their father was John Joseph WILSON, **not** Edward WILSON.

Re: Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

anne19551955 — 2012-05-25 05:40:05Z

Good Evening Bonnie (my time is night here) Sorry often when I type my fingers don't match up with my head. Yes John Nicholas Doyle was born in Ireland, Parents Pat(t) Doyle & Bridgt (? Bridget) Dwyer unsure if she was married to Pat or not haven't found a marriage for them. Sponsor was Elizabeth Flood (I assume that is what we/I call a God Mother?) John was born September 1822 Baptism ST Catherine's Ireland (Not sure if that is in Dublin or another area?) He went to India as a young man, there he married Catherin O'Connor 26th October 1857 in Hurrachee, Bombay India Catherine was a widow. In 1863 he was invalided out and returned via the Morayshire to England and I assume on to Ireland. I can't find any passanger lists for the "Morayshire". 1st Child was Anne/ie christened in Hurrachie 6th Sept 1859 Born 30th August 1859 (I am her GGGrand-daughter) and was at her 100th B/D and have pictures of us all there including ones of her. She was 100 when she died She married Alexander Ross. I have details of that and their family. I have Mary Doyle being 2nd child born 1861 D 1883, (was for me unconfirmed but just from information I have found..that was all I knew about her. The 3rd Child was Agnes Doyle born 14th Feb 1863 (of her I have no other information). Then I had found a number of Catherines born in Ireland while they where there..so I had only guessed at finding or having information on the correct one, the I found her marriage in 1902 to Edward Wilson and it said 5th daughter so I was missing one! I found a Catherine coming to NZ on the "Doric" in 1877 but now think that wasn't the correct one..as someone found another for me to look at that wasn't until a later date and had a Rose Mary (or Mary Rose) coming with her. So you have filled in some gapps for me and the tree I am trying to do for my 94 year old Uncle I still have two Uncles from that family still alive. But memories from them are vauge. They only remember their Grandmother Anne/Annie and they only knew of one sister that they could remember. So you have given me some more help and I am very greatful. So do you fit in there as part of my extended family? If so I would be more than happy to sent photo's and things to you. I also have a 4mth old buried in the same cemetery but not with the balance of the family 3 are together (John, Mary and Catherine). A headstone was put there by Catherine jnr and husband. And I wondered seeing the baby was named Mary Doyle and died the same year as my GGreat Aunt. That it might have been hers? The shipping page for John Doyle was on the "Lady Ruthven" and just says John, wife and family. so I didn't have any idea which children other than Annie that came. I visit her grave any time I am in Christchurch as well as her daughter (my Gran) my Gran came to live with us when I was about 7yrs old and we shared a bedroom until I left home. And we shared much love and was very special to me. Again I thank you for the reply and hope to hear from you again.. Kindest thoughts Anne

Re: Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

BakerCemetery — 2012-05-25 01:41:48Z

First, I found your message difficult to follow, so if I have something wrong here, sorry. Let me re-state what you posted, with any facts I found added.

John Nicholas Doyle was born about 1823 in Ireland. He married Catherine O'Connor, who as born about 1830. The family moved to India, where John worked for the East India Company. In 1863 they returned to Ireland and John was an invalid. In 1873 the family, which now included five daughters, immigrated to New Zealand, settling in Dunedin. Two of the daughters (Catherine and Rose Mary/Mary Rose) may have immigrated later.

Daughters:

(1) Mary, born abt 1861, India. Immigrated with parents in 1873. Died 1883 Dunedin, NZ. Never married.

(2) Catherine, born ??. Arrived NZ either 1888 or 1891.
- 1896 and 1900 electoral rolls: Dunedin, Otago. Doyle, Catherine, tailoress, Dowling Street.
- 3 Nov 1902, Married Edward Wilson in ChCh NZ.
- 1905/1906 electoral Roll, Lyttleton, Canterbury, Catherine and Edward Wilson in Redcliffs. Edward is a "sumner agent"
- Known children: (A) Ruth, born 1911, (B) Martha Rose Kathleen born 21 June 1907, died 1989. Married Austin Dalziel Stevenson Shaw in 1929. He died in 1984, age 77, buried Ashburton Public Cemetery.

(3) Ann/ie, born ?? in India, arrived NZ 1873 with parents. Lived to be 100? Married ??

(4) Mary Rose/Rose Mary, arrived 1891, married John Joseph Ryan in 1909.

(5) Agnes, born in India, arrived NZ 1873 with parents.

In 1881 John Nicholas Doyle lived in South Dunedin and was a pensioner.

27 Sep 1882 John Nicholas Boyle died and was buried in Souhtern Cemetery, Dunedin (Block 41R. Plot 14)
11 Nov 1883 daughter Mary died and was buried in Souhtern Cemetery, Dunedin (Block 41R. Plot 14)
1 Jan 1886 wife Catherine died and was buried in Southern Cemetery, Dunedin (Block 41R. Plot 14). Probate filed 2 Feb 1886.

Doyle's canterbury, Ryan's and Wilson's all Canterbury

anne19551955 — 2012-05-24 10:01:51Z

I am missing some family memebers. Needles to say I would love to find some alive ones to contact. I have my GGAunt Catherine coming to NZ either 1888 or 1891 marrying Edward Wilson from Barry's Bay any family out there? The another Doyle that is the 1891 arrival is correct another GGAunt that came out with Catherine then I believe married a John Joseph Ryan in 1909 Not totally sure that is a correct membeer of the same Doyle family but worth looking at. The father was a John Nicholas Doyle married to a Catherine O'Connor in India John was with the East India Co there and returned as an invalid to Ireland in 1863 then came to Dunedin with wife and family this is where it gets messy. My GGgrand was one that came with them Anne/ie and also GGAunt Mary they all died within a short time of arriving 1873 to 1876 Though GGran lived on until 100,her I know about it's the other's I am trying to fill in there was 5 daughters Three I believe born in India GGran Anne/ie ..Agnes I know nothing about and Mary. The balance would have been born prior to their arrival in NZ And that is Catherine jnr and Mary Rose or Rose Mary I think...though Rose Mary and Agnes may not had lived though I can't find any details of there deaths..If I have the Rose mary/Mary Rose correct she married a Ryan Jon Joseph Ryan in 1909 and I know for sure that Catherine jnr Married Edward Wilson from Barry's Bay in ChCh 3rd Nov 1902 any help would be wonderful thanks.

Re: Dunlops in Cust, Canterbury

wendyh651 — 2012-05-24 02:43:43Z

Tony said "More information can be found if you order their certificates (cost about $20)."

Please do NOT order the legal certificate for family history purposes; you WILL be disappointed. Get the printout - I explain why at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NEW-ZEALAND/20...

The web site you need for this is BDM Online - Historical Records (https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/)

If you don't want to order online, or are dealing with more recent events that aren't on the historical site and don't have an iGovt registration, you can order via ordinary mail - go to Births, Deaths & Marriages (BDM, http://www.bdm.govt.nz/), click on the button "Births", then click on the link "Obtain application forms and fin the associated fees", then "Birth, Death, Marriage, Civil Union or Name Change certificate or printout", then "Request for Birth Certificate or Printout BDM 93B". Print this form, complete it with what you know, and send it off with your payment. I've also been told you can call them and order over the phone.

If you are a member of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists (NZSG, http://www.genealogy.org.nz/) enquire at their Certificates Collection before making purchases at BDM. If they're holding what you're looking for, it is much cheaper.

"3 Feb 1891 Star Newspaper has the heading Serious Accident at Cust. Daughter of Henry Dunlop was run over by a traction engine's straw elevator and wasn't expected to live.

24 Sep 1921 Miss Eva Dunlop was a bridemaid at a wedding at the Knox Church in Lower Hutt."

I'm guessing, but I'd say these came from PapersPast (http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/). It's a great resource.

You may also find Archway (http://archway.archives.govt.nz/), the online index for Archives New Zealand (http://www.archives.govt.nz/) helpful.

It's free to walk into the office holding a file of interest to you and view it, assuming there are no restrictions (which are spelled out in the Archway listing if there are any). If you can't go yourself, a friend can visit on your behalf (barring any restrictions as above, or where permission is given to a specific person, of course) and take photos. Ask here if you need help, someone might be able to visit for you.

Hope this helps. :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Re: Dunlops in Cust, Canterbury

tonyfuller132 — 2012-05-23 10:25:30Z

BDM has James Dunlop born in 1888 to Henry and Ceilie Dunlop. Also James Dunlop marrying Iris Ellen Elizabeth Boulton in 1919. There is an Annie Dunlop born in 1894 to Henry and Margaret Dunlop. More information can be found if you order their certificates (cost about $20).

3 Feb 1891 Star Newspaper has the heading Serious Accident at Cust. Daughter of Henry Dunlop was run over by a traction engine's straw elevator and wasn't expected to live.

24 Sep 1921 Miss Eva Dunlop was a bridemaid at a wedding at the Knox Church in Lower Hutt.

Clark-William & Catherine Clark

1_jg2 — 2012-05-22 06:36:50Z

William Clark a Tailor from Keith,Scotland married Catherine (Kate) Rogers in New Zealand 1917. Catherine was 1 of 5 children. Father-Henry William Rogers(William Henry) B 1862 Scotland D 1927 Ashburton NZ. Mother-Marion Grant B 1858 D 1941 Ashburton NZ. My Great Grandparents. Looking for decendants. Dates are aprox.

Dunlops in Cust, Canterbury

Camlow57 — 2012-05-22 03:15:16Z

I am currently researching the above family.

There was a James Dunlop born in Cust in 1888. He had at least two sisters I know of - Annie, Eva. Annie and Eva moved to live in Lower Hutt (I believe Annie married the Mayor of Lower hutt in 1940ish - his name was W. Gregory).

James moved to New Plymouth and married a boulton.

Looking for info relating to parents of James, etc

Cemeteries in Canterbury, New Zealand

HuntingKiwis — 2012-05-14 09:39:14Z

Hunting Kiwis now has several complete rural Canterbury cemeteries online:

Waddington
Springfield
Kirwee
Harewood
Darfield
Cust

.. and more

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Re: Charles Joseph Maria De Malmanche

kinnigit — 2012-05-02 05:20:53Z

Your Charlotte was the third child of Charles JM De Malmanche and Frances Jane WARD (dau of Charles WILLIAM WARD and Frances JANE TAYLOR) baptised 21 Oct 1880 at my old church St Johns Woolston, Christchurch. Charlotte's mother married John James KEEFE and had three children by him before marrying CJM De Malmanche.
Cheers Sue Knight

Re: O'Donnell & Gilroy relations immigrated from Ireland 1850's-1860's - ADMIN NOTE

wendyh651 — 2012-04-03 01:37:20Z

Please keep in mind that these boards on Rootsweb/Ancestry have specific topics. The topic of this board is the region of Canterbury in New Zealand.

If you find your conversations on the board straying away from this topic, please move your discussions elsewhere - swap emails or find another board where you will be on-topic.

Thanks in advance for your understanding. :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
Board Admin

Re: O'Donnell & Gilroy relations immigrated from Ireland 1850's-1860's

JayeGee90 — 2012-04-02 23:44:11Z

Hi Liz, Will be more than happy to help out with your G grandparents, there are good resoures at the Vic National Library & at some of the local libraries depending on where they lived in Melbourne.

Look forward to hearing from you

Regards Jaye