New Caledonia - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

johny noels, born 1860's, lifu

stephan_schnierer — 2013-04-25 09:49:59Z

hi,

i am the great grand son of johny noels an islander who was apparently born around 1860 on lifu island near new caledonia. this information is based on his queensland marriage certificate (1885) and his queensland death certificate (1896). he lived in rockhampton north queensland for several years before his death.

i am interested in any information or possible sources of information about where he was born, who his parents were, when and why he left the island for australia (perhaps black birded?).

thank you

stephan schnierer

The 'Cureau' family in Noumea

beverleydaniel1 — 2013-04-15 05:23:54Z

I am searching for any information on my mother, Alphonsine Louise Cureau, and her family in New Caledonia. Mum was born in Noumea 28/10/1904, her father was Edgard Louie Cureau and her mother was Celenie Jaroisay.
Mum migrated to Sydney Australia in 1920, and on 9/2/1927 she married my Dad, Arthur Charles Leslie Masters.
I can't find any records of her New Caledonian family or her australian immigration/vessel records.

Re: Louis Amedee Girard

message2theresa — 2013-04-12 09:41:09Z

Hi,
I just thought I would let you know I was able to obtain the birth certificate of my ancestor Louis Girard whilst I was in Noumea in Feb.
I also have a birth certificate for what another Girard Victor, although he was born too late to be one of my ancestors family but maybe a cousin! The birth cert gave me the birthplace of Louis' Father Emile Girard as St Croix, Vaud, Switzerland so now I am wondering how I can find shipping records, if any exist, that would show when he emigrated from Switzerland to New Caledonia. Geographically I am thinking he may have gone into France and sailed from there around 1860.
You mentioned you had some friends doing genealogy in Noumea. Would you mind sending me one of their emails or asking them if they know if shipping records exist for this period.
Thanks in advance
Theresa

Re: PORCHERON

dhatton1976 — 2013-04-05 03:03:51Z

Hi Damien,

Thanks for your message. I will respond directly to your email address.

Cheers, Dan

Re: PORCHERON

damien_cirss — 2013-04-04 15:10:43Z

Hi Dan,

It appears that we are related. My maternal grandmother Marguerite is the Daughter of Eugene Porcherone.

I assume that you are the husband of one of my Fathers (Ron) cousins

She has told me sone of the families history.

This has left me with a desire to learn more and it would be appreciated if you could share any information that you have on this branch of the family.

Please contact me by email.

damien.cirss@gmail.com

Thanks

Damien

James Morrison - New Caledonia

Elijah_Morrison — 2013-02-12 06:38:51Z

Hi,

I'm look for any information at all regarding a Mr James Morrison from New Caledonia.

From what I know he died in Australia (The Torres Strait) During War (Which one I am not sure) in 1944.

He had children in Australia with a lady known as Maud (Muradh Lai), their names are: John Morrison, Nora Morrison, Edward (Ned) Morrison, Maria Morrison, Ellen Morrison and Elizabeth Morrison.

What I would really like to know is, who his parents are and where they came from.

Re: Louis Amedee Girard

message2theresa — 2013-02-01 11:20:12Z

Hello thank you for your reply,
I am actually going to be in Noumea myself on 15th Feb and so have sent another email today to advise this and request the documents I require.
I am hoping that I will have success this time. Interestingly there is an island just off Noumea called Amedee island and my ancestor was called Louis Amedee Girard so I am keen to find out if there is a link or if it is a coincidence.
Cheers Theresa

Re: Great Grandmother

chatters67 — 2012-12-15 18:52:15Z

Hi Nicole,

You're really welcome - I'm glad the information gleaned from the site can be of assistance.

Because my great-grandmother had several siblings, I spent quite a bit of time poring over the details it contained and I started to get a sense of their lives in NC. The godparents gave me an idea of whom they mixed with and were possibly related to. The occupations listed for parents and godparents gave an insight into their lifestyle.

The multiple marriages are intriguing. Where with my British/Australian research death led to remarriage,that doesn't seem to have been the case with the French!

Their naming traditions are something I would like to know more about. Children seemed to have 3 Christian names one of which would be chosen as their given name and others as the baptismal name and then sometimes a different combination for the birth registration. I started to see why members of the family recalled them by different names.

Whilst doing this section of my research I realised that we Aussies who have NC roots are a distinct breed with something in common. I know the Huegenot descendents have their own societies around the world, I wonder if there is one for our lot?

I would like to take the opportunity here to thank Christian Martinet who compiled the dictionary. It is an invaluable tool.

cheers,
Mitch

Re: Great Grandmother

aussienic — 2012-12-15 08:44:10Z

Hi Mitch,

I found it!! :o)

Thank you sooo much!!

Re: Great Grandmother

aussienic — 2012-12-15 06:00:36Z

Hi Mitch,

Oh wow, I just saw this reply! You are a lifesaver!!! I could hug you right now!! :D

My nan and I were just talking on the phone about a hour ago about Emma, and relatives over there. She remembers a little, but at 91, her memory isn't that great.

Thank you soooooo much for this information, it has helped me so much!

Regards,
Nicole

Re: Great Grandmother

chatters67 — 2012-11-23 10:42:49Z

Hi Nicole,

Just last week I discovered a site www.en.calameo.com. It is a biographical dictionary of baptisms in New Caledonia for the late 1800's/early 1900's which I have found extremely helpful to my research. It is written in French and has marginal notes which sometimes tells who the person married. I used an online translator for the phrases I did not understand. Your great-grandmother's surname was spelt GAZINGEL. With my limited French it looks like she married Alexandre Alain Heister, born 16/2/1890 in Noumea to Georges Henry HEISTER, a German shipwright, and Gabrielle Olive PAUGAME, 28. Alexandre married your grandmother on 8.5.1915. On 10/4/1922 he married Jeanne Lucie DE BALMANN and then it looks like he married Marie Antoinette DE BALMANN on 4.11.1950, again both in Noumea. Hope my interpretation is correct and this is of some help.

Regards, Mitch.

Great Grandmother

aussienic — 2012-10-20 08:16:20Z

Hi,

I'm trying to find a little more information about my great grandmother. Her name was Emma Theodorine G (I don't know how to spell her maiden name, but it sounded like Gaznaelle). I know she was born in 1901 in New Caledonia, and married around the age of 14 in 1915, and her surname changed to Heister. She then immigrated over here to Sydney, Australia in April, 1917. If any one knows any information that would be great!!

Construction of Airfields in New Caledonia 1942

ccway1 — 2012-09-21 10:32:24Z

Hi everyone

I am looking for information on the above two people - my grandfather and great uncle - George Gilbert Milligan and Tom Milligan. In 1942 they left Australia, only for a few months and went to New Caledonia to work. I understand that this was to help in the construction of airfields for WW2. I think they were working for the Americans. As far as I know they were civilians.I don't know if it was some scheme that was running or how they were chosen. I understand they went over by boat - don't know its name. I am not sure how long they were there for. Would appreciate any info or guidance.

Thanks

Colleen Way

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

maureen_a_adam — 2012-08-30 02:58:31Z

Dear Shirley: This is a long shot … but if your email address is still current, I got it from a discussion between you and Sandi concerning the Le Bris (Lebris in New Caledonia) family. Please see the attached graphic.

I have shown a pedigree view from Ancestry.com from the perspective Maureen Adam (nee Kirk). I have also copied in my cousin Margaret Hart who has also been researching the Le Bris family background (Margaret’s mother was Adeline EM Le Brese’s sister). Note how some bright spark helped rewrite history by changing their name to Le Brese as they could not speak English when they came from New Caledonia.

My husband Stewart and I leave for Europe on Sunday 2 September (from Melbourne) where we are meeting up with Michel Durose (also CC’d) who lives in Brest (from whence Yves Le Bris came). Michel is a member of the Arbre Généalogique Brest he has been helping us track down the family and hopefully may be able to introduce Maureen to some living relatives during our stay in Brest on 7-10 September. Michel told us Lynette Twist (another of my relations) had been in touch with him. He is writing an article on the Le Bris family and would love to hear from her (and you no doubt).

We hope to hear from you,
Regards,
Maureen & Stewart

Re: French convict records of new caledonia

JohnsonI52 — 2012-07-14 23:24:50Z

Hi, I am also trying to track down family in New Calidonia.I do not have any leads on my Great Grandfather other than his name and his five children.If you could send me a link to French Court records I would be very grateful. I have researched the other side of the New Caledonia family through archives on line in France. If you have not accessed them just google Archives (and The region you want) this will connect you however it is all in French.

Re: French convict records of new caledonia

JohnsonI52 — 2012-07-14 23:22:54Z

Re: French Prisoner - Henri Garnay, alias Chappin

lynbaret — 2012-07-14 05:25:29Z

I'm intrigued that Garnay does not appear in the archives d'outre-mer. There is a Garnier, Henri Paul Aristide
condamné au bagne en 1872 (Nouvelle-Calédonie)
who was apparently part of the Commune de Paris in 1871. Could this be your Garnay?

Are you sure that Garnay and Chappin in Sydney in 1885 and 1886 are the same person?

What else do you know about Henri Garnay?

Re: French Prisoner - Henri Garnay, alias Chappin

tarwonga1 — 2012-07-13 22:20:08Z

Lyn,
Thankyou for your advice re Henri Garnay, alias Chappin.
I shall certainly follow up with your advice. I believe that Henri Garnay was returned to New Caledonia - 16 years imprisonment. I had always been told that he died in the 1870's!!! I was able to gather some information from Trove but shall do more research.
Jennette

Re: French Prisoner - Henri Garnay, alias Chappin

lynbaret — 2012-07-11 07:31:09Z

Perhaps it is too late to be helpful, but zebedee and I have found some info about our French convict ancestor at http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/bagnards_doss...
I can't find a Chappin or Garnay convict between 1860 and 1890, but the spelling could be different. Worth trying!

State records has a list of former French convicts living in Sydney in 1885. There is a "Henry Chappin, libérée, tailor at Loise Pitt street". I don't have the page which would contain Garnay.

There are some mentions of Henri Garnay in newspapers on Trove.

I hope this helps you.

Lyn

JOHN HICKS/ ELIZA MARY HICKS (LISA MARIE)/ ERNEST CANALDO (CODEVELLE)

OneSlickShoe — 2012-07-08 00:24:35Z

I am searching for information and pictures on these Family Members :

1. JOHN HICKS (Englishman)
2. ELIZA MARY HICKS (Lisa Marie) - Daughter of John Hicks.
3. ERNEST EMMANUEL CANALDO (Codevelle) - Husband of Eliza Hicks.

Eliza Mary Hicks (Lisa Marie) was born in Fiji in 1848 and married Ernest Canaldo; They settled in New Caledonia.

We look forward to finding more of Ernest & Eliza's family and John Hicks' descendants in New Caledonia. Please feel free to post responses here or on our Facebook Page.

https://www.facebook.com/HicksClan.SouthPacific

Re: Doretta Naisiline Guckone/Gueckone

marama_s — 2012-06-30 09:52:50Z

hi evelyn, yes sadly grandad beau passed away in late july 2009. a big loss to us because he took so much info about the family to his grave. he spoke at times if his sister moving to the usa so this is huge to find another branch as we are the only extension in nz/australia. my dad is his only son sonny (born charles aubrey). it would be great to be in touch. im on facebook to so if u see this add me and we can all meet and share.

Re: French convict records of new caledonia

ssa731 — 2012-06-21 21:31:59Z

Hello,
Did you ever receive a reply to this? I am just seeing your message a year later through doing some research. I am currently researching "my bagnards" as well. There is an active genealogy group in Noumea that may be able to offer advice on the kinds of records available in the archives there. I can send you the information for their listserv, and you could perhaps inquire that way (in French). If you are still searching, feel free to contact me through ancestry or my website below.

I'd appreciate hearing how you obtained the dossiers from the archives in France. I was told by family in Noumea that they would respond to a written request, but they told me that I would need to hire (a very expensive) local researcher to copy them for me.

Cheers,
Sharon
www.twocaledonias.net

Re: Louis Amedee Girard

ssa731 — 2012-06-21 21:22:11Z

Dear Theresa,

Did you ever find an answer to this? I was doing a good search today and your post turned up in it. Birth certificates in New Caledonia are obtained through the mairie (town hall) in Noumea. They were very helpful when I was there, but I don't know about via mail. They needed proof I was related to the people for whom I was requesting documents. If you still need help, I know a number of people in Noumea doing genealogy and they'd probably be happy to help. Speaking or writing French would be helpful. :-)

Cheers,
Sharon
www.twocaledonias.net

PORCHERON

dhatton1976 — 2012-05-16 00:43:15Z

I'm trying to find out more about Eugene PORCHERON and his wife, Marie Louise Olympe PORCHERON (de LA HOGUE), who are buried in Noumea, New Caledonia.

I believe they are my wife's GG grandparents however I need to find out more about them before I can connect them. They seem to have travelled between Australia and New Calendonia for Eugene was in Australia in the 1850s. Some of his family emigrated to Australia later.

Does anyone know how to find more about births, deaths and marriages in New Caledonia?

Regards,
Daniel

MOURIN and REBOUR families

frog01 — 2011-09-07 00:36:12Z

Hello, I am the great granddaughter of Charles Emile Louis MOURIN and Antoinette Eugene MOURIN ( nee REBOUR). Both lived in New Caledonia for a period and were married in the Cathedrale of Noumea on 28/8/1909. My greatgrandfather's father was Louis Auguste MOURIN, and my greatgrandmother's father was Antoine Eugene Rebour. My mother thinks that LOUIS Mourin was at some point an administrator for parts of French Polynesia, and that ANTOINE EUGENE Rebour, was a town planner/surveyor in Noumea. It is all a bit sketchy. If anyone has any information about my family to share it would be much appreciated.
Thank you, Antoinette Marie Peters, Adelaide, Australia

Re: French Prisoner - Henri Garnay, alias Chappin

zebadeee — 2011-07-18 11:18:29Z

Thanks for letting me know. It has been suggested to me by a French genealogist that there may be a way to access New Caledonian records about French convicts. If I have success I will let you know.

Re: French Prisoner - Henri Garnay, alias Chappin

tarwonga1 — 2011-07-18 07:37:36Z

No, I was unable to access information for New Caledonia, but certainly had sucess with police records in Sydney. Gather Henri Garnay escaped from New Caledonia and managed to reach Sydney and believe he received 16 years here in Sydney and deported back to New Calodonia in 1870's.

French convict records of new caledonia

zebadeee — 2011-07-18 02:28:42Z

Hi there, does anyone know how to begin researching French convict records? My Great Grandfather Henri Baret, Paris, France was a prisoner in New Caledonia in the 1870's and I want to access any convict records about him. I have the French Court records of his conviction, but I'd like to see if there are any records of him relating to the period of incarceration. I would be so grateful if you could give me any help.

Re: French Prisoner - Henri Garnay, alias Chappin

zebadeee — 2011-07-18 02:27:09Z

Hi there, I am not much help. I am just hoping you have found a way to research this and can tell me. My Great Grandfather Henri Baret, Paris, France was a prisoner in New Caledonia in the 1870's and I want to access any convict records about him. Did you find a way to do so? I would be so grateful if you could give me any help.

Louis Amedee Girard

message2theresa — 2011-06-27 20:09:22Z

Hello,
I have twice requested the birth certificate for Louis Amedee Girard born 3/10/1861 in New Caledonia however have had no reply to my emails from the New Caledonian archives (archives@gouv.nc).
Louis came to Australia as a young boy with his family, Father Emile and Mother Mary. I am unsure if he had any siblings. I have located naturalisation records from 1924 which indicate he had Swiss citizenship.
Has anybody else had any luck with contacting the archives or know anything of this family.
Cheers Theresa

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

F_Gero — 2011-06-10 22:50:04Z

Hi
Yes I have written to them and received information. However, it can be frustraing at times. I usually compose my request in English, then use Google translator to convert to French.

I don't know if you have found their website. If not I have included the link. It is in French but you can translate as you go.
http://www.archives.gouv.nc/portal/page/portal/archives/

Regards
Frank

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

michm62 — 2011-06-07 23:42:39Z

Dear gerof,
Did you ever write to that address?
Did you get the results you wanted?
Interested in doing the same -
michm62

Maurice de Balman /Balmain / Balmann - Marie Eugenie Thierry

klb2785 — 2010-09-18 22:38:34Z

Hi,

I'm looking for information about Maurice de Balman born 1848 St Joseph Reunion who came to New Caledonia around 1871/2 and married Marie Eugenie Thierry who was 16 years old. Her parent's names were Francois and Anastasie. Francois Thierry's occupation is described as "overseer".

The couple left New Caledonia around 1880 with two daughters, Julia and Blanche and, after returning to Reunion, emigrated to Australia.

There was a notice in the Melbourne Argus in 1948 asking about the whereabouts of Maurice Balmain from New Caledonia.

Thanks in advance,
Kate Blackwell
Blue Mountains
Australia

Re: MOURIN and REBOUR families

annettejewiss — 2010-07-28 04:16:06Z

My grandmother was born in New Caledonia. Her name was Blanche Rebour, her sister was Antionette. On my Nans' death certificate it stated Eugene Rebour as her father, Possibly she only knew him as Eugene. Love to hear from you.

Annie Petersen

PetersensOfFiji — 2010-07-19 03:10:38Z

I'm trying to find any descendants of Annie Petersen, born in Vanuatu (New Hebrides), sister of Gus and daughter of Gustavus Petersen.

looking for any info on Charles Auguste Deguet & Elizabeth Mueller (Muller)

lesjoan26 — 2010-05-17 08:56:24Z

Charles Auguste Deguet born Lyon, Rhone District, France 28/7/1856 occupation Marine Fireman
married - ??/??/????
Elizabeth Mueller (Muller) born Germany - might have lived in Numea at some time??

Arrived in Australia 28/2/1887 on the ship "Natal" which had come from Numea.

Any information would be greatly received

isle of pines

Price_Lyn — 2009-09-17 05:45:32Z

can anybody tell me where to get the names of the prisoners who were sent to the isle of pines in the 1870's. i will be eternally grateful.
thanking you in advance
Lyn

sammax02@hotmail.com

Re: Doretta Naisiline Guckone/Gueckone

Evelyn_Heale — 2009-09-13 20:25:50Z

Hello Marama

I'm afraid I haven't got back any further than this generation. Variations of Doretta's name have been seen as Dinak GEOKONE, QUIRKWIN, GUIKONE or GUACHENE.

Was your grandfather known as Beau, and passed away only recently? The last of that generation of SIMMONS . . . .

My grandmother was his sister Amy. That would make us second cousins.

If you wish you to, you are welcome to contact me through my email address.

Re: Doretta Naisiline Guckone/Gueckone

angelsimm — 2009-09-13 15:59:32Z

my name is marama simmons and I am the granddaughter of Arthur J Simmons - born to Marmaduke and Charlotte. We have not heard of James wife's name before so any information you can provide once found will be great to have.

French Prisoner - Henri Garnay, alias Chappin

tarwonga1 — 2009-08-14 03:43:15Z

My great grandfather, Henri Garnay - Paris, France, I believe was a prisoner in New Caledonia approx late 1870's - and maybe early 1880's. If I am able to access any information re Garnay - Henrold or Henri, alias Chappin, I would be most grateful.

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

peterlebris — 2009-06-16 10:12:05Z

I believe that french is best but ny translator did not translate properly and in the end they prefered my english,
Sandi

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

tanyalang — 2009-06-15 14:55:10Z

Will do and thank you. Would it be alright sending emails in English?

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

peterlebris — 2009-06-15 07:42:30Z

try the archives department first as sometime they can be very helpful especially if you are very polite, just ask them where you might find the information that you are looking for and how much it might cost, as l know that they were very helpful to me and that is how l got some certificates, they didnt cost anything.

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

tanyalang — 2009-06-14 05:37:51Z

I'd be ordering them from Noumea.

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

peterlebris — 2009-06-14 00:03:34Z

Hi Tanyalang,
that will depend on where you are ordering them from
Sandi

Re: Births Deaths and Marriages

tanyalang — 2009-06-13 12:32:17Z

Hello. Does anyone know how much certificates of births, deaths, and marriages cost?

Marcel LeBon

monica_foggin — 2009-04-01 08:53:09Z

I am seeking the birthdate and parents of a Marcel LeBon, possibly baptised Joseph Ives Marcel LeBon, abt 1895 in New Caledonia. He married first Rachel Ada Mann in 1915 at Ryde in Sydney, NSW, Australia, then Florence Matilda Cruise in 1943 at Hunters Hill. He died in 1965 at Henley, near Ryde, aged 70. His death notice does not give parents' names.
His father was believed to have been a magistrate or judge in New Caledonia.

Re: MOURIN and REBOUR families

ricardo2517 — 2009-03-27 22:14:22Z

i dont know if we are related but my great-grandfathers name was Antonio Mourin, he lived in Spain, he married Carmen Fernandez, had 9 children one of them my grandfather Theodore Mourin who married Libia Riccer. They had a son Roberto Mourin and a daughter Analia Mourin. Analia Mourin married Enrique Calle and had me and my brother. That`s all the help i can give you, my other Mourin relatives live in Argentina, Cuba, Ecuador and the U.S.
Ricardo Calle Mourin

Re: The 'Cureau' family in Noumea

joelle167 — 2009-01-31 06:31:00Z

Célinie JAROSSAY is the elder children of François JAROSSAY and Alhponsine BOURBON.
Camille my great-grand mother was the second they were 6 children born in new calédonia.
I just know one children CUREAU born in NC Alphonsine.
I have more informations about JAROSSAY andBOURBON's family in NC
I will be glad to conect with you for more information on our family

Mary Von Loiseraine

Debster58 — 2008-11-03 02:24:57Z

Does anyone know anything about the above woman. I believe she fled France with her Mother. She married a n Evion Lamat then married Patrick Fitzgerald either in New Caledonia or Australia or both. Any help would be appreciated.