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Re: James Ballard of King Island

jschulz57 — 2011-03-28 01:13:48Z

Thank you so much, my mother is Judith Anne Clarke

Re: James Ballard of King Island

royroy89 — 2011-03-27 22:12:43Z

Hi,Just to further the last post from Juleigh.Yes the will of your Grandmothers daughter can be viewed on Tas Colonial index,then click, Wills' and you can read the lot.Also gives last address of deceased.Yes two children a daughter and son and who knows maybe more?On the King Island Conley family if you like to dig into that side you can see Cryil John Conleys war record at www.aif.adfa.edu.au as well as George Edward Conley King Island looks as if from Currie King Island.Leslie John Conley also has a war record on naa.gov.au .These records verify Cyril as next of kin.So all matches.If you need to know about Conley it is normally easier to contact a Conley on King Island and yes there is the Deputy Mayor of King Island Royce Conley and no doubt he is related to the Conley that married Kates daughter.His e-mail is royce.conley@bigpond.com.He would know probably info about Barlows of King Island who were probably from mainland Tas anyway.He will be able to tell you where to get info about anything on King Island.Everyone knows everyone on King Island unless you migrated there .I think now you have more than enough now.I did check historical index for James Ballard Sydney Nsw but no Birth record.Would need to know an area of nsw where from to try and match to a ancestor.But i am sure when you get all the info it should start to peace together.Best of luck

Re: James Ballard of King Island

Julleigh — 2011-03-26 20:41:29Z

Morning Julie

Have done a little more searching with some positive results:-

James Ballard and Kate Harris had one possibly two children-

- Lenna Emily Matilda Ballard born 1899 in Launceston.
- She died as Lenna Emily Matilda Conley in 1977 in Launceston
- Her Will (on-line) mentions a niece? Judith Anne Clarke
- and a son Leslie John Conley
- She left an estate of approx. $ 12,000
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- The Conley family were and still are a well represented family of King Island
- A Cyril John Conley from King Island embarked with the 15th Battalion in Melbourne on 22.12.1914.
- There are a number of newspaper references to the Conley family in the Examiner
- a Royce Conley was / is councillor and mayor on the island.
Denis

Re: James Ballard of King Island

Julleigh — 2011-03-24 02:25:23Z

As earlier suggested you should read through the newspapers of that time . These are on line at Nat. Aus. Library site of TROVE. Also the AoT Name Indexes - wills- departures- convicts- and TFL (John Ballard born 1807) etc. will all add to your knowledge.

Re: James Ballard of King Island

jschulz57 — 2011-03-24 02:09:05Z

Hi Roy
You are no bothering me and I really appreciate your help. I had found the information that you gave me however as a beginner to all of this, I am not too sure how to go further.
I will request marriage certificate and try from there.
Kind regards
Julie

Re: James Ballard of King Island

fryerning — 2011-03-23 06:23:10Z

Julie
It would seem that the source of the marriage information is an abbreviated version through LDS ie. so I am assuming that you have not seen the certificate. That is why I was asking for the source of this information, not just a repeat of it.

You need to get this marriage certificate.
Tasmanian marriage certificates from 1896 have very useful information -
place of residence, usual residence, year in which the person is widowed, children (number living, number dead), father's occupation.

With the year of his wife's death, and if it is recent to this marriage, you know to look for a Ballard death in that year, and starting in the place of his usual residence.

The witnesses, and their addresses, might be Ballard relatives or his young adult son/daughter, or in-laws - relatives of the first wife.

If father and son have the same occupation, then other male Ballards of similar age (to James), similar occupation, might be related (death notices NSW or TAS for "...brother of James"). Is it a Ballard family occupation?

Is his mother Sarah Ballard, or just Sarah ie he does not know her maiden name?. If an adult does not know mother's maiden name, it might mean that she died at a young age and James has limited child/young adult memory of her - a clue when looking for his origins in NSW.

I would keep an open mind about his age - he is quite a bit older than Kate. Human vanity being what it is, he might have taken some years off to arrive at his stated 39 yrs.

You have very little to work with here to locate your James Ballard so you need to throw a wide net - and the first marriage would be good to locate. Good luck.

Cheers

Re: James Ballard of King Island

royroy89 — 2011-03-23 04:04:42Z

Hi,I just thought if you want you can see Marriage record on www.familysearch.org.If you can,t find it it says James Ballard 1858 Sydney age 39 and Kate 1874 Evandale.Single Age 23 .Marriage 02/12/1897 Launceston.James parents John Ballard and Sarah Ballard no maiden name?Brides father Robert Harris and Estha Butterworth.Grooms marital status is Widowed .He was married before.Search numbers are m02042-4 Source film 919546-Reference RN136.This matches Colonial Index records.LDS-Morman records.I will try not to bother you again.Roy

Re: James Ballard of King Island

jschulz57 — 2011-03-21 21:58:16Z

Hi Kelly
Thank you for this information. I already have this but am trying to find out more re James Ballard. My grandmother Hilda would not speak of him. I am trying to find out more info on him. He was widowed when he married Kate and records I have found have him born in either Tasmania or Sydney NSW. I have no info on his previous wife or when he came to Tasmania or when he died.
Many thanks for your contribution
Regards
Julie

Re: James Ballard of King Island

Sad_Mushroom — 2011-03-21 16:44:47Z

Hiya,

James Ballard- widowed (b.1858 Sydney- John Ballard/Sarah Ballard ) age: 39 married
Kate Violet Eliza Harris- single (b.1874Evandale- Robert Harris/Estha Butterworth ) age: 23
on 02 Dec 1897 Launceston, Tasmania, Australia

Kellie

Re: James Ballard of King Island

Julleigh — 2011-03-21 12:16:55Z

Hello jschulz57
As you may already know there is an alternative to the James Ballard described in the death notice mentioned in my post of 20.03.2011.
A James Ballard arrived in Hobart on 12.07-1848 aboard the Bangalore, convict ship as Convict No. 20681. He had been convicted of highway robbery and sentenced to 15 yrs. His trade is given as basket maker and in 1852; he applied for permission to marry Ellen Crawley, herself a transportee who arrived on the Earl Grey in 09.05.1850.
In relation to your enquiry, the records of this James Ballard confirm he had a brother John.

Re: James Ballard of King Island

fryerning — 2011-03-21 05:53:30Z

"....James Ballard b. 1858 (Sydney)"

"...Kate later m. Lewis Barlow"

Where does this information come from ie birthplace of James and marriage to Lewis Barlow.

Children born to James Ballard 1899 to 1910.
Children born to Lewis Barlow 1915 plus.

And William Lewis Hector Barlow b. 1907 to Lewis Barlow.

Re: James Ballard of King Island

Julleigh — 2011-03-20 17:42:08Z

Should have done this with my first post, just in case you have had no success with TROVE.
Zhis is a synopsis of James Ballard death notice, published in the Launceston Examiner Thurs, 17 June 1897.

"Yesterday morning, Mr. James Ballard, a resident of this city for over 50 years expired at his residence, George Street, at the ripe old age of 82. Mr Ballard when a young man served in her Majesty's navy and came to Hobart in a man-of-war vessel, which he left at that port, and immediately moved to Launceston.
Deceased started a business as a basket manufacturer in York Street, He was one of the first members of St. John's Friendly Society.. Deceased married 47 years ago and leaves a widow and family of eight. There are five daughters and three sons, all of whom are married some reiding in the other colonies."
Incidentally his Will is available on line at the AoT Name Indexes data base. It is also of great interest.

Re: James Ballard of King Island

royroy89 — 2011-03-20 06:16:47Z

Hi,Your Grandmothers birth record is derived from Baptism records which the Archives would hold because it will be a church record from one of the Churches in Evandale-which was formally called Morven.Which is near Launceston Airport.Hope you find all the info.Roy

Re: James Ballard of King Island

Julleigh — 2011-03-20 03:57:26Z

Hi Julie
I did have a quick look at the Examiner/Mercury and found a number of references to the Ballard families. Thought I had struck gold with my first try in 1897!The death and much obituary information for James Ballard But not yours? Did find a possible connection to a James Ballard jnr, son of a John with indications that John and James sr. may have ben brothers.

Re: James Ballard of King Island

jschulz57 — 2011-03-20 03:39:00Z

Thank you for replying. I have a feeling that they are related however I have no documentation or family recollection of this. I will keep searching and once again, thank you.
Julie

Re: James Ballard of King Island

jschulz57 — 2011-03-20 03:37:31Z

Hi Roy
Thank you so much for replying to me. I really appreciate it. I have already searched these records but now will go to BMD.
Kind regards
Julie

Re: James Ballard of King Island

Julleigh — 2011-03-14 11:25:30Z

Hi
Since you have all the basic information from the TFL and IGI marriages, suggest you might find the sort of personal details you are looking for in the newspapers of that time - NLA site TROVE. Could the James Ballard seaman who left Hobart for Sydney in 1822 have been James's (1858) father?

Re: James Ballard of King Island

royroy89 — 2011-03-14 06:46:24Z

Hi,Well seeing you had no replies and considering that most King Island people come from Tas mainland there is always records.I am in no way related to your query.You will find your answer at Tas Colonial Index or portal.archives.tas.gov.au.This will give you siblings ,children etc.You can then request from Hobart Archives Original Birth certificate,Marriage etc.James Ballard i would look for a Historical Index which should be in NSW Archives.Most old records are in Sydney as well.However Marriage certificate from Launceston will give his Parents or Witnesses etc.Lewis Barlow i did not check.Best of luck should put you in right direction.Roy

James Ballard of King Island

jschulz57 — 2011-03-11 06:20:47Z

I am trying to find out information on the following people.
James Ballard born 1858 (Sydney) and Kate Violet Eliza Harris. They married in 1897 and were located on King Island.
I believe from family stories, he was a seamen but have been unable to locate anything about him
Kate later married Lewis Barlow and both died on King Island however I am finding it difficult to locate these people.
Kate was my great grandmother.