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Re: Douglas FLAKEMORE

MBDC1958 — 2013-05-18 04:32:24Z

he was Flakemore in 1841, Forknall in 1851, Faulknall in 1861, Faulkner in 1871 and Falknar in 1881.

m. as Faulkner in 1857 to Phebe Cross (widow)

Oh the joys of genealogy. because most people couldn't r&w, the census collectors pretty much recorded many misspelt names.

Maybe you are correct in the Job & John used the name Flakemore for a good few years.......they are a flakey lots.

A Mary Flakemore m. in 1853 in Dudley. Maybe they all changed their name......curious.

Re: Douglas FLAKEMORE

dj72green — 2013-05-17 12:57:01Z

The newspaper report of the trial also gives John's age as 24.

It is interesting that Mary DUNN, the woman who was assaulted and robbed said of FLAKEMORE "I have known him eight or nine years". She didn't say anything about a different surname so perhaps he had been using that name for quite awhile.

It appears that Job was going by the surname FLAKEMORE on the 1841 census, and in 1851 he was FORKNALL!!

Debra

Matilda Brown

thojack — 2013-05-17 08:01:59Z

Do you have the family bible pages that has the Cartledge information.(I have copies)
Matilda Brown is my husbands grand Aunt.

Re: Douglas FLAKEMORE

MBDC1958 — 2013-05-17 07:05:41Z

Hi Carolyn

All of what Debra says I believe is correct.

However, I believe that John Flakemore was born John Faulkner, son of James & Lucy. There were brothers Wm, Job & Eli and sister Mary.

Some of John Flakemore's children were also registered in Hobart as Faulkner (a mistake made by his wife Martha, who must have been aware of the name change).

John Flakemore also sponsored (paid for) the emigration of Wm Faulkner (son of James & Lucy) and his family to Tasmania in 1879 - some 180 pounds, and then in 1883 he sponsored the emigration of Wm's son - also Wm & his family. I think they would have been related for that kind of generousity. Wm senior & first family settle in the Franklin area.

John & Martha named their children - James, Lucy, Eli Wm, Mary etc.

The was a family legend that John changed his name at time of conviction after a "falling out" with a brother. Perhaps that is why no child was named Job. My grandmother always called the Faulkner children cousins! Descendants include the name Supplice.

John's DOB varies from 1823-1839 depends on which certificate/record you look at.

I have copies of the documents.

Regards, Maree
harriets.garden@bigpond.com

Re: Douglas FLAKEMORE

dj72green — 2013-05-17 03:40:39Z

Hi Carolyn,

John FLAKEMORE's convict records are on the Tas Archives website. Of most interest is his indent which indicates that he was born around 1816 (aged 33), a native of Worcestershire and had a brother William and a sister Mary at Rowley (his native place).
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11

However I do note that on the 1851 census when he was on a prison hulk in Portsmouth harbour his age is given as 25.

There was a John FLAKEMORE who was baptised at Dudley in Worcestershire in 1812, the son of William and Elizabeth, and he did have a brother William and a sister Maria, so could be a possibility.

Debra

Re: Douglas FLAKEMORE

carolynwoolley11 — 2013-05-17 00:57:34Z

Does anyone know where John Flakemore Senior came from . I am looking to see birth certifcates electoral roll records etc when in England. I am chasing my line which is William Faulkner who lived in Franklin also. (he is most likely to have been Johns brother - note name change??) carolynwoolley1@bigpond.com

I also don't know where William and Hannah Faulkner are buried. I think Hannah went to stay at Cygnet with her daughter the Supplices.

Amanda Maria JAGO

nettysmc — 2013-05-16 23:19:55Z

I am looking for any information about Amanda Maria Jago 1887-1917
Daughter of Samuel Jago & Amelia Haberle
She married Thomas Willam Harkness in 1909
My Grandmother Ann Pearn (nee Harkness)is the daughter of Amanda Jago & Thomas Harkness.I have not been abell to find any information on Amanda Jago not even a deth notice.
Can any one help

Re: Cartledge

helenrupchurch — 2013-05-14 00:49:48Z

Error re Robert Stanley Cartledge he was born on the 6th of Septmber 1922

Re: Cartledge

helenrupchurch — 2013-05-14 00:47:48Z

My father was Robert Stanley Cartledge born on the 1st September 1922. I have just come across this site and you probably have all the information you need

Re: Margaret MONEGAN/MUNEGAN

RebeccaMCantrell — 2013-05-13 15:00:04Z

Thank you for the information Debra but I already have it. It's her before married life I am mainly interested in now. Everything from the marriage down to her passing I have. Well what I could find anyway but I guess you can never be to sure.

Re: Margaret MONEGAN/MUNEGAN

dj72green — 2013-05-13 14:47:29Z

Margaret's death notice says that she was in her 72nd year (so born c1849)and she died at Lindisfarne. Both she and James are buried at the East Risdon cemetery.

Debra

Re: Margaret MONEGAN/MUNEGAN

dj72green — 2013-05-13 14:21:06Z

Hi Rebecca,

The marriage cert will not give parents' names, this was not included until 1896. Witnesses' names may be of help though if she had family there and may also give ages. You also need to confirm that she was not a widow.

The birth certs of their children will also not give any info, parents' birth places were not included until 1902.

Margaret's death certificate should have parents' names and her birthplace if known by the informant.

Pre 1899 certificates in Tasmania are on microfilm and held by many libraries and family history societies in Australia, even in country areas.

Debra

Re: Margaret MONEGAN/MUNEGAN

RebeccaMCantrell — 2013-05-13 04:45:22Z

Hi Again Kirsty

I just tried to private message you but couldn't. My email is beckietella@hotmail.com if you rather private messages.

Re: Margaret MONEGAN/MUNEGAN

RebeccaMCantrell — 2013-05-13 03:29:49Z

Hi Kirsty,

Margaret is my brick wall. Have not been able to find anything on her before her marriage to James. Her year of birth, birth place and father's name were information given to me by an aunty. Always nice to meet a long lost cousin. Which one of Margaret's children do you come from?

Margaret MONEGAN/MUNEGAN

RebeccaMCantrell — 2013-05-13 03:19:24Z

Hi All And Thanks For Reading.

I Am Trying To Locate Information On Margaret MUNEGAN or MONEGAN (There Is Even More Spellings For The Surname). I Have Very Limited Information On Her So Will Be Greatful For Anything Anyone Is Willing To Share.

So Far I Have She Was Born About 1850 In Scotland. Her Father We Believe Is Edward MONEGAN. Margaret Went On To Marry James BARR In Hobart, Tasmania On 27th March 1873. She Passed Away 04th Nov 1921 At Cambridge, Tasmania. I Have Found This Record And Her Surname Is Spelt As MUNEGAN. They Had A Son Named Robert Lorimer BARR (My Great Grandfather) On 07th Feb 1882. There Is More Children, However Margaret's Surname Spelling Is Different For Most Of Them. No Idea When Or Why She Came To Tasmania Or Even Who With (If Anyone).

I Am Aware It's Possible Margaret's Birth Year And Place Could Be Wrong And I Am Not 100% Sure If I Have The Right Father's Name As That Was Information Was Given To Me.

I Would Really Like To Fill In The Missing Pieces For Margaret As She Seems To Be My New Brick Wall.

Thanks Heaps For Reading And Happy Searching To You All.
Rebecca

Re: Margaret MONEGAN/MUNEGAN

kirstyscotney76 — 2013-05-13 01:55:54Z

Hi I was just reading your post and I'm pretty sure you are on the right track,margarete is my 5th great grandmother and I am reasearching her at the moment for my family tree..I would be more than happy to help if this is the right one :)

Re: Hardwicke

CherriePhillips8 — 2013-05-09 09:12:13Z

Thank you Leanne will see how I go.

Re: Hardwicke

CherriePhillips8 — 2013-05-09 09:11:03Z

Thank You Debra will see if there is a match

Re: Hardwicke

dj72green — 2013-05-09 07:03:59Z

The Mercury (Hobart), Monday 13 February 1922

HARDWICKE - On February 11, 1922, at his late residence, No. 232a Bathurst-street, George, the beloved husband of Ellen Hardwicke, in the 69th year of his age. Requiescat in pace. Private interment, Sunday, 12th inst.

The Mercury (Hobart), Monday 29 January 1945

HARDWICK - On January 27, 1945, at Prince of Wales Hotel, Battery Pt., Ellen, loved wife of the late George Hardwick, aged 80 years. Requiescat in pace.

HARDWICK - Friends are respectfully informed that funeral of the late Mrs Ellen Hardwick will move from her late residence, Prince of Wales Hotel, Hampden Rd., on Monday (This Day), at 3.30 pm, arriving at Cornelian Bay Cemetery at 4 pm.

Examiner (Launceston) Monday 29 January 1945

TWO SUDDEN DEATHS
An 80-year-old woman .... died suddenly at Hobart at the week-end. Ellen Hardwick (80), who died about midnight on Saturday, had been ill for some time. She lived with her son-in-law at the Prince of Wales Hotel, Battery Point.

Trove shows that the licencee of the Prince of Wales Hotel was a Sidney Thomas RAWNSLEY, and the electoral roll also shows a Violet May RAWNSLEY at the same address.

I wonder if this them on Tas Archives?
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&typ...

If so, they seem to go quite a long way back in Tasmania.

Debra

Re: Hardwicke

corahlf — 2013-05-08 23:50:51Z

Hi,
This could be a brothers' WW1 Service Document.
Digitised and a vailable for viewing online via National Archives Australia.

HARDWICK William Ivan
Service Number - 5715
Place of Birth - Sydney NSW
Place of Enlistment - Claremont TAS
Next of Kin - (Father) HARDWICK George

Page 5 of the document has 232 Bathurst Street,Hobart, as the address.

Leanne

Re: Hardwicke

corahlf — 2013-05-08 23:50:31Z

Hi,
There is a William Ivan HARDWICK listed on Millingtons Funeral Directors Database.

Leanne

Hardwicke

CherriePhillips8 — 2013-05-08 10:47:35Z

Looking for information on Violet May Hardwicke came to tasmania with her parents around 1914. Fathers name was George
Mothers name may have been Ellen. They lived at one stage at 232 Bathurst Street.

Re: O'LEARY

cinnmara — 2013-05-07 16:32:47Z

Looking for Leary /O`Leary whose ancestors from 1840 onwards lived , were tenants or work on the White Estate Glengarriff and lived in the town land of ESKNAFEELINA Glengarriff Co, Cork Ireland I would like to hear from you.
Any other surname from the same place are very welcome.

You can e-mail direct.

paddyandmargaret@eircom.net

Re: O'LEARY

cinnmara — 2013-05-07 16:32:47Z

Re: James Bigwood

jimbig2011 — 2013-05-07 03:03:26Z

My family came from Wiltshire to america in about 1870. They lived in Milksham, England

Re: Christmas Echo FRANKCOMBE

chrismary60 — 2013-05-03 09:36:24Z

Good grief I meant Charles and Sarah not James

Re: Christmas Echo FRANKCOMBE

chrismary60 — 2013-05-03 09:34:53Z

Hi James and Sarah Francombe are my great great
Grandparents - only discovered this recently thanks to a cousin doing family research.

Re: Matilda Challis

PChallis53 — 2013-04-30 11:51:07Z

Hi,

I am a descendant of Matilda's father through her brother William Henry Challis & Charlotte Cowley. I first discovered the arrival records of Henry Cahllis and Mary ann Browning and their children (William, matilda & John) nearly three decades ago.

After following up William Henry and the ancestors of his parents in a few spurts of interest, I have rekindled my family history interest.

I am very keen to learn more of Matilda and John and would be very interested in communicating.

Re: Charles Innes

gwencook99 — 2013-04-28 07:11:37Z

I am researching West family history and an Allan Innes comes into the tree.
He married Sarah Hull and had a son Alfred Allan Innes who was born on 27th May 1881.
Would he be connected to your tree.
Ann

Re: Broadby

suzannegriffin501 — 2013-04-28 02:36:58Z

HI
Thankyou for your reply please contact me griffin720@bigpond.com. My interest lies with the Brown Family - John Waddell Brown & Mary Brown married 1852. Their son John Waddell Brown Jr married Mary Ellen Brown and their e/d Mary (Molly) married Robert Charles Broadby
1908 Zeehan.

Regards
Suzanne

Re: COLGRAVE FAMILY RESEARCH

elaine_fleet — 2013-04-28 01:25:32Z

Hi My grandfather was Walter Colgrave and he lived in Colmworth Bedfordshire.

Re: Broadby

hobart08 — 2013-04-27 14:41:55Z

I am interested in helping you with the family's arrival in Tas Australia. I have sent you an email
Frank Broadby Perth Australia

Re: Broadby

hobart08 — 2013-04-27 14:39:01Z

I am interested in helping you with tracing your grandmother's family in Australia. I have sent you an email

Re: Albert George Walker

mollipops1 — 2013-04-27 03:20:26Z

Hi wiz661

Albert was the son of Charles WALKER of Parkham, Tas. He enlisted at age 20 (a labourer) and was killed in action in the field in Belgium in Oct 1917.

You can read his dossier at NAA Recordsearch - the file has been digitised.

Re: Albert George Walker

wiz661 — 2013-04-25 11:29:50Z

thanks already got that much

Re: Mary Power - later history?

vandsg — 2013-04-25 04:12:14Z

Mary Slattery ( nee Power)'s Death certificate states that son John believed Mary and Patrick Slattery were married in County Clare Ireland when she was 24 yrs.She was 65 years when she died so likely she was born in 1824 and married in 1848.She lived 20 years in Tasmania and nine years in Victoria,dying at Collingwood.
Children on Death certificate were James 40 yrs,Margaret 37,John 35,Mary Ann 33,William 31,James 29 and Joseph 14?-can't make out the symbol beside his name.
I am still trying to find out about her husband Patrick Slattery.Cheers.

Re: Mary Ann FLOOD

rosemarymcintosh101 — 2013-04-25 04:11:23Z

hi - i know it is a long time since you posted this message - but am keen to find out if your relative 'james brumby' was born in nanango, qld in 1935. thanks

Re: Leslie Ernest Hathaway

marlenedhorne1 — 2013-04-25 02:05:54Z

I am the granddaughter of these two people also. My mother was Ronda Smith nee Hathaway

Re: George Emil Lange

outtolunch00 — 2013-04-24 22:12:28Z

Forgot to add I have some information complied in Norway in 1946 about George's ancestors dating back to 1721.

Re: George Emil Lange

outtolunch00 — 2013-04-24 07:43:55Z

Hello, I am a descendant of George Emil Lange and Sarah Clements. I too had heard the stories of a child and wife before Sarah so read your post with great interest. However, he didnt die in Hobart. He left Sarah when my grandfather was very small and sailed away never to be seen again. Family legend suggests he ended up in New Zealand and married again there (seems he had a habit of doing this). Had you heard about this before or do you have information re this. Regards Helen

Re: BUGG

Stine47 — 2013-04-23 00:19:19Z

Hi Alison, Hedley and Martha were my grandparents too.
I have much Morey/Tucker info and extended families. Would love to share. stineway@bigpond.com

Re: George HARRIS

KerryMuller — 2013-04-22 08:55:50Z

Hi Kathleen...I too am researching George & Kathleen HARRIS of Tasmania as my partner is his great grand daughter. Would love to hear from you....kmm@ihug.com.au

Thank you
Kerry Muller

Re: McNEAIR

addisonmarshall_1998 — 2013-04-20 12:17:52Z

Hey there, it was Sarah Jane Dolby who married George McNeair, I follow from his son, Ernest Percival McNeair, husband of Adelaide Lucille Young, and then their youngest child still living is my nan, Charmaine Isabelle Weeding (McNeair) but her husband is not biologically related to me as I am her maternal grandson.

CARNE

2013-04-19 23:14:20Z

hello i am trying to find anyone with my maiden name of carne

Re: CLISSOLD

jglynn111 — 2013-04-19 12:56:22Z

Hi
Please find attached screen image of our page on Mary Carn. She was a convict. She is my 4th Great Grandmother - we descended from her son John and then his

My email address is julian.glynn@talbotpartners.com.au
- we have some info on her husband and then his daughter Mary.

Regards

Julian Glynn (South Melbourne)

Albert George Walker

wiz661 — 2013-04-17 18:53:19Z

looking for anything on Albert George Walker born 1895, was killed in WW1 in France in 1917, any photos or other facts would be great

Re: Parents of: Edwin Edgar THORNE (1886-1975) GRIFFITHS

Katrina_Hill1 — 2013-04-16 08:37:49Z

Well THAT certainly fixes a WEIRD problem i had!!

I could not figure out where Marjorie Elsie had come from (but she was in the death notice as a daughter). The "William Henry" came from my Uncle who did the family tree several years ago. He had the wrong william (and Mary, his wife) and it took me ages and common sense to sort that out.

If i read it right then Agnes Jane Lindsay BROWN (2nd wife was the sister of his daughter in law (Cecilia). I did for a moment think that and dismissed it as a dumb idea.

You help so much. NOW i can try to figure out where he came from. I had thought it would be harder to track the women in my family tree. Turns out not so much.

Thank you for all you help here. Much appreciated.

Re: Parents of: Edwin Edgar THORNE (1886-1975) GRIFFITHS

Katrina_Hill1 — 2013-04-16 06:16:41Z

Thank you. Thank you. You are marvelous. It makes sense now. I can now try to find their (THORNE, GRIFFITH) arrival now that i know who i am looking for.

I found another relative who died while at that Asylum so i had done a little reading. There were a few online articles explaining what the place was used for (and the lives of poor girls kept there). It was thoroughly horrid. One article detailed two girls who escaped and went to the Governor and asked to be released and given proper work. He did!

I am getting quite a lovely collection of sites to use to find information. I am working toward doing as much as i can online before visiting various sites in order to sight original docs. Getting there :)

thank you again

Re: Parents of: Edwin Edgar THORNE (1886-1975) GRIFFITHS

dj72green — 2013-04-15 23:26:10Z

William THORNE's burial record at Carr Villa in 1932 gives his age as 76, and his birth was registered at Longford,Tasmania in 1855, the son of William THORN(E) and Johannah GLEASON/GLEESON.

His sister Emma Jane was born in 1854 and married Henry SPURR in 1890 at Deloraine. She died in 1934 and I think her obit mentions William's son Edgar and his sons Clarence and Frank (E. C. and F.) ?? The 'G. Stagg' may be Mabel's son Gordon.

Burnie Advocate, Tuesday 7 August 1934, page 2

Late Mrs. E. J. Spurr.

On Sunday afternoon thc remains of the late Mrs. Emma Jane Spurr were interred in the Presbyterian section of the general cemetery. The late Mrs. Spurr was a tower of strength to the Presbyterian Church during her long residence in Deloraine, where she made many friends. Her husband pre deceased her some 18 months ago. She leaves two sons, Messrs. William and Lance Spurr, and a daughter, Miss A.Spurr. A third son, Mr. R. Spurr, is in West Australia.

.....the chief mourners were Messrs. W. and L. Spurr (sons), E., C. and F. Thorne, of Legana, and G. Stagg, of Meander (nephews).

I think that William and Emma were probably the only two siblings. There is a newspaper report about a Johanna THORNE who died in 1888 at the asylum in New Norfolk after accidentally drinking carbolic acid. The article says that she had been an inmate for 31 years. That would mean she was admitted about 1857, not long after William's birth. The report is quite long (Hobart Mercury, Monday 23 January 1888, page 2), and you can also obtain a copy of the inquest from Tas Archives (see their website inquest indexes).

Debra

Re: Parents of: Edwin Edgar THORNE (1886-1975) GRIFFITHS

dj72green — 2013-04-15 22:43:07Z

Katrina if you go to the Tasmanian Archives website and have a look at the Will indexes there are two (at least) that are of interest.

Esther Jane BEAMS (maiden surname THORNE) died in 1959 aged 83. In her Will she mentions her grand niece and nephew with the surname STAGG, and I believe they are the grandchildren of Mabel Annie THORNE.

David GRIFFITHS died in 1922 and in his Will he leaves everything to his grand-daughter Esther Jane BEAMS, and he requests to be buried at Deloraine.

What I think has happened here is that Esther Jane was not the daughter of William THORNE, but was the daughter of Mary GRIFFITHS before their marriage, which makes David GRIFFITHS Mary's father. I think this is the birth reg. for Esther:

Esther Jane McNAMARA
Born: 27 Feb 1875
Father: Michael McNAMARA
Mother: Mary GRIFFITHS
Registered at Deloraine, Tasmania

There are no other births to this couple and no marriage that I can see.

Debra