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Re: Richard TOBIN

smokenjude  (View posts) Posted: 7 Feb 2009 1:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: tobins and hetherington
Dear Rhonda,

I am still trying to fathom all these richard tobins out
1. richard tobin married ellen hetherington - who was his father.
2. richard tobin b 8/4/1866 or is it 1833?
i have most of the information but am looking for
richard tobin b 1857 - who did he marry and where are they
all buried, i have found some in the cheltenham cemetary.
ellen had most of her children at home but i have no burial
records for the.
i am also looking for dick tobin (capt) who married a winifred hambridge, i have her but nothing else about captain dick.

have you heard of any of these.
love to hear from you
cheers judy

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

dawnbrown110  (View posts) Posted: 7 Feb 2009 5:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dronsfield, George
I do understand, but I was given 3 Sarah Ann Dronsfield's
at that time, And had absolutely no info on her at all only who she was married too. I do however have the original
e-mail from twinkleberry, and I did not at that time have a correct birth date or place of birth. Now I do have the correct Birth date and Death date. My problem is the info I was given on the English Sarah Ann Dronsfield 1846,
coming over from England 1883 on the Romsdale sailing from New Plymouth seems to have the same husband and family as the Sarah born in Australia 1843 in Adelaide. So now I'm confused. Somewhere someone has mixed these two women up! I did however send away for a death certificate that may explain. They both can't have the same parents etc.I do however appreciate your help you actually helped me locate her death certificate which I just sent away for.
Now you can see why I'm confused they both have the same husband and family. I will let you know what I found out when I receive this certifcate. Thanks Dawn

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 7 Feb 2009 9:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Is it possible they returned to England in the meantime and then back again in 1883?

Twinkleberry

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

Bowersott  (View posts) Posted: 8 Feb 2009 1:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello! I am trying to research the Hopkins Family from Adelaide Australia - Raymond Leonard Hopkins died in 1988 married to Myrtle Jean - had children : Raymond, Lyn, Geoffrey, Robin and Diane. Any help appreciated!

Kristen Baldwin

Re: Richard TOBIN

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 8 Feb 2009 1:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Judy

Richard TOBIN (c1826/c1829) age recorded as 30 at the time of marriage to Ellen, had his father recorded as Richard.

Richard and Ellen’s first child was Richard born 12 Aug 1857 and the following death record is a match. A death certificate may name his wife.
South Australian Deaths, Registrations 1916 to 1972
Richard TOBIN
Date: 1933-10-17
Age: 76y
Status: M
Relative:
Residence: Burnside
Death Place: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol: H
Book: 552 / Page: 236

In fact, there were no marriages in SA for any TOBIN children with a father named Richard, so I wonder if Ellen and her second husband, Stephen CLARKE, and the children moved interstate?

Bio of SA has these details of Stephen CLARKE.
CLARKE Stephen b: c1829 LAN ENG arr: 1856 NABOR
occ: Carpenter res: Rosewater, Queenstown
m: Mary nee CARTHY b: c1832 d: 1875; ch: Ellen (c1853-),Mary (c1855-), Eliz (c1858-)

The only Richard TOBIN marriage had a father recorded as John – maybe that was wrong??
South Australian Marriages, Registrations 1842-1916
Groom: Richard TOBIN
Bride: Annie Isabel BISHOP
Date: 1885-04-02
Groom Age: 26
Status: S
Groom's Father: John TOBIN
Bride Age: 22
Status: S
Bride's Father: [unrecorded]
Place: Christ Church North Adelaide
District: Ade
Symbol: AS
Book/Page: 143/65
There were six children born to this Richard TOBIN and Annie Isabel BISHOP in the Pt Adel district from 1886-1895, AND one son was named Dick BISHOP TOBIN!
South Australian Deaths, Registrations 1916 to 1972
Dick BishopTOBIN
Date: 1968-04-10
Age: 75y
Status: M
Relative: Winifred Esther TOBIN [W]
Residence: Tusmore
Death Place: Toorak Gardens
District Code: Nor
Symbol: H
Book: 47A
Page: 2555


I missed this child when I sent the TOBIN records earlier.
South Australian Births 1842-1906 (c) SAGHS
Henrietta McDonald TOBIN
Date: 1868-07-24
Father: Richard TOBIN
Mother: Ellen ETHERINGTON
Birth Place/Residence: Cape Northumberland
District Code: Gre / Book: 66 / Page: 33


I suggest checking out VIC BDMs for Ellen and Stephen CLARKE.

Cheers
Rhonda

Re: DRONSFIELD

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 8 Feb 2009 3:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Dawn

The Sarah Ann DRONSFIELD who arrived in 1883 was born c1863 and married James Edward HOLLIDAY, and she died in SA in 1954 at the age of 90y.

No DRONSFIELD/DRANSFIELD families are recorded in South Australia in the 1840's.

Your Sarah Ann DRONSFIELD lived in SA as a child for just a few years in the mid 1850's before going to NSW with her family. Her death certificate in Australia may contain only what the informant THINKS was her place of birth. I am convinced the UK 1851 Census records have her listed as a 4 y.o. born in Lancashire.

Rhonda



Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 8 Feb 2009 3:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am interested in your query,but need some more clues. E.g.birth date of Raymond, or age at death. My biggest problems are that Hopkins has several branches in Adelaide, and records available only reach 1937 for marriages, 1928 births and 1972 deaths.

If you prefer you can contact me direct with what you know.
Tiwnkleberry - Heather

hobbis@dodo.com.au

Re: Richard TOBIN

smokenjude  (View posts) Posted: 8 Feb 2009 3:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
hello rhonda,

thanks so much for replying to me, it was helpful.
do you know anything about the hetheringtons and did richard
and ellen come on the same vessel octavia and if its true they may have been illiterate? its a long shot i know and i will certainly try n.s.w. cos that is where my granfather was born.
cheers judy.

Re: HOCKEY immigration

iolenehockey  (View posts) Posted: 9 Feb 2009 12:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Its amazing how other people can find the little things you miss.
thank you,
regards,
Michelle

Re: Richard TOBIN

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 9 Feb 2009 5:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Tobin, Etherington, Hetherington
Hi Judy

I have checked NSW BDMs and found possible deaths for Stephen (1901) and Ellen CLARKE (1892?) and the four youngest children of Ellen and Richard TOBIN.

This copy of the Octavia passengers has the ETHERINGTON surname twice for single female passengers and the second female might be Sarah ETHRINGTON who died in 1866 without any details recorded.
http://www.emerge.net.au/~santarem/records/octavia.html
I have not found Richard on any passenger list.

FamilySearch has several George ETHERINGTONs in Yorkshire, both with a wife named Ann, and one such couple had the following Ellen who was the only one listed with an age close to your Ellen, though this may not be her at all but it’s a record to keep in mind.
Ellen ETHERINGTON Christening: 04 JUL 1830 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England
At least three Sarah’s in Yorkshire but none with George as father.
Records have ETHERINGTON as ETHRINGTON / HETHERINGTON / HEATHERINGTON.

As for being illiterate, that can be ascertained on their marriage certificate if they marked their names with a X instead of signing their full names.

Cheers
Rhonda

Re: Richard TOBIN

smokenjude  (View posts) Posted: 9 Feb 2009 7:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TOBINS AND HETHERINGTONS
DEAR RHONDA,

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOU REPLY, I WILL SEARCH AND SEE WHAT I COME UP WITH.
CHEERS JUDY.

Re: DRONSFIELD

dawnbrown110  (View posts) Posted: 9 Feb 2009 4:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dronsfield, George
Thank you, The Sarah Dronsfield (1863), I was told or given info that she married my GG Grandfather. Which I never doubted. That makes sense now that there has been a mix up with these two women. They are different people and I started working on the wrong line. I have alot to work with now. Thank you Dawn

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

dawnbrown110  (View posts) Posted: 9 Feb 2009 5:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dronsfield, George
Maybe! I think anything could be possible. I've been given some really good tips and info, and will start working on them. Also waiting for the Death Certificate which may help also. Thanks for your work before and now. Sorry if I caused any problems to you or others. Dawn

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

hearneancestor  (View posts) Posted: 13 Feb 2009 2:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: vosper
heather can you please help me in looking up passenger lists
for migration from UK after 1853. I am OK finding up until
then but After I have no idea where to go. I am trying to
find LYDIA VOSPER and ANNA MARIE VOSPER. I know that Anna marie is in UK 1861 as she is the census but that is the year her mother died so I presume not too long after that.
Lydia I presume would be approx 1855. Their sister Amelia
I know arrived in 1843

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

colin1930  (View posts) Posted: 13 Feb 2009 4:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Heather

I posted this on the general board before I saw you offer of assistance. I don't know if the dates are too recent or not, so I'll leave it up to you.

I am looking for information about my second cousin. His name was HEDLEY FALLAS born in 1929 in Leeds England. He was married to JEAN POWNEY. Hedley and the family emmigrated to Canberra in 1965 under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme. He died in 1987 in Adelaide and Jean died in 1993 in Adelaide. Their children were SANDRA CECELIA b1951, JOHN HEDLEY b1953, PATRICIA EMMA b1957 and DAVID STANLEY b1958 (all born in England). I would be grateful for any help in tracing the family.

Colin

col216@btinternet.com

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

ozgirl65  (View posts) Posted: 15 Feb 2009 12:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fallas
FALLAS enquiry.

I responded on the main board but would add the family did not emigrate to Canberra. You appear to have taken your information from http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx
If you re read the information you will see that Canberra is named as the Location of the Records/File.

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

curtisabigailpritt  (View posts) Posted: 18 Feb 2009 8:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Black, Milne
Hi Heather

Wondering if you can help us out with a family member who has stumped us. Mary Alice Milne married Jaques Black in 1867 in Port Lincoln, South Australia. Her father is listed as Thomas Milne and her age at time of marriage puts her birth at c1848. However we don't know where she was born. Could you check the SA records? If nothing can you check the shipping arrivals for when she may have come to SA?
I can't think of anything else to try. Many thanks in advance and hopefully you'll get further than we have.
Abigail

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 18 Feb 2009 10:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Abigail: Thanks for your query. I will enjoy looking for you. I will get to the main Adelaide Library early next week. Local library has birth records, but not shipping.
Happy for you to contact me direct if you like.
What is your email?

Regards,
Heather, in a very dry Adelaide.

hobbis@dodo.com.au

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

YT2  (View posts) Posted: 26 Feb 2009 5:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Heather

I'm hoping your kind offer is still current.

I am the great-grandson of Joseph Frederick White late of College Park / St Peters in SA. Joseph Frederick White's death is indexed in South Australia as follows:

Title: South Australian Deaths 1916 - 1972
Page: 492 319 Nor
Joseph Frederick White
Age : 70
Status : Married
Relative :
Residence : College Park
Death Place : College Park

His Obituary in the now defunct Adelaide newspaper, the "Register" on 29Jan1927 page 13f advises:
"Mr Joseph F. White who had reached the age of 70 years, died at his residence, Torrens St St Peters, last week. He was the son of the late Mr Samuel White and was born at the Bay Rd, Plympton."

I have searched Internet databases at considerable length seeking information on JF and/or Samuel White, without luck. Earlier in Feb2009, having combined the two listings above to estimate a birth year of 1856, I submitted an online application to SA-AGD/BMD for a copy of my Great Grandfather's birth certificate, and paid the required fee of $38. My application produced a No Record Result certificate for the period 1850-1860.

SA-AGD/BMD have confirmed my G-Grandfather's marriage (to Jessie Martha Greene, 2Jul1888 Holy Trinity Adelaide) and his death in SA but insist they have no record of his birth. I notice that the "No Record Result" certificate includes a cautionary note advising that the document is not conclusive proof that the (birth) event did not take place.

This has rather confused me ... if the State BMD authority has no record of the birth, where might such a record be found? I would like eventually to trace my G-Grandmother's family as well, but am a bit disenchanted at the lack of progress my initial $38 payment to SA Govt coffers produced.

Unlike the other branches, this branch of my family tree stops like a bike hitting a brick at this generation and I would very much like to find something that associates my g-grandparents with their respective parents (and their locations) and therefore provides a basis for further research. Any advice you may be able to offer would be greatly appreciated.

Peter White
Tura Beach NSW

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 26 Feb 2009 9:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, Peter, for your query. Perhaps tomorrow or early next week will go to local library and check out the printed BDM records. Maybe a week or so will go into the city library and check shipping arrivals for Samuel/ Joseph/Jessie, and anything else we can think of. But still unbearably hot in Adelaide so slowing us down.

Contact me direct if you wish.

Heather

hobbis@dodo.com.au

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 26 Feb 2009 9:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
I went to the Adelaide library yesterday but could find nothing on Mary Alice Milne. Can offer no suggestions. Would point out that Port Lincoln is a long way from Adelaide, so that arrivals there may not be on the Adelaide arrivals indexes. Maybe a letter/ email to the Port Lincoln library may help.
I did find details of Jacques Black arraival with four siblings. Also confirmed details of their marriage in Port Lincoln.Will send this if you do not have it.
Contact me directly.
Heather.

hobbis@dodo.com.au

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

chrisfopp  (View posts) Posted: 4 May 2009 3:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fopp
Hi Suzanne

Was interested to read your request on the surname FOPP. I'm Christopher Michael Fopp. My Grandfather came over from Adelaide in 1938 to join the RAF when his father died in Adelaide. There are loads of Fopps in South Australia still, especially around Adelaide. Amazingly there are about 61 just on facebook around the world!

From what I've seen of the WW2 records, Wilhelmine saw both her son and husband go to fight in the second world war - I believe they would have been my Grandads cousins - I never got the chance to ask him if he met up with them during the war but I doubt it as he was the last Australian member of the few when he died.

All the best, my father has created a fairly comprehensive family tree on the Fopp side. Please feel free to email me or contact me through Facebook.

Chris Fopp

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

ozziekas  (View posts) Posted: 5 May 2009 3:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Heather I am from the family Wike and my grandfather Rupert Wike 04-05-1897 was from Eaglehawk bendigo his mother Bessie Davey married Edward Wike in UK. Edwards father was robert Hardy and his father George.The Mayne family in Australia have many names linked to these names, do you have contact with anyone from the Mayne family. I found a tracey from S.A that was looking for info and was searching for the wrong names, I would like to contact her to help. her great great granfather was my granfather.ta Karen

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 5 May 2009 4:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: White, Walsh
Hi Peter

I haven't seen a reply to your query.

It appears there was a Samuel WHITE who died in Adelaide in 1855 and a widow Margaret nee WALSH died in 1870 at Plympton (in the vicinity of Bay Rd)! Your Joseph obviously knew his childhood home was at Plympton.

South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915
Samuel WHITE
Date: 1855-02-04
Age: 29y
Status: N
Relative: (not recorded)
Residence: Adelaide
Death Place: (not recorded)
District Code: Ade / Book: 3 / Page: 111

South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915
Margaret WHITE
Date: 1870-11-25
Age: 40y
Status: W
Relative: Samuel WHITE (DH)
Residence: Plympton
Death Place: Plympton
District Code: Ade / Book: 39 / Page: 538


A Samuel WHITE arrived in SA in 1850 aged 22. Possibly the same Samuel recorded as 22 when he married in 1852, and then recorded as 29 when he died in 1855?


However, Samuel and Margaret had a son in 1854 recorded as Joel, and maybe that was an error and meant to be Joe for Joseph??? Since his mother died in 1870 he may never have known how to find out his actual birth details or correct age?
Joel WHITE
Date: 1854-12-13
Father: Samuel WHITE
Mother: Margaret WALSH
Birth Place/Residence: Brighton
District Code: Ade / Book: 5 / Page: 90

Margaret nee WALSH had no more children after "Joel" since Samuel died several months after the birth of this son. Incidentally Brighton is not far from "Bay Rd".


Rhonda

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

YT2  (View posts) Posted: 5 May 2009 6:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks Rhonda .... it's a real puzzle and I guess that, in the absence of a definitive link, I'm going to have to rely on possibilities/probabilities. It's a tempting story though, particularly given that I'm a Brighton boy myself way back (been gone from Adelaide for nearly 40 years now).

Thanks for your help though - I really do appreciate it.

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

suzie1108  (View posts) Posted: 5 May 2009 3:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fopp, Gryst
Hi Chris,

Thank you for contacting me. Who was your grandfather, you didn't mention his name. My paternal Grandmother was Rosalie antonie Fopp and she married Neil Ingram Gryst and my father was ther oldest and only son Ross.

Any information on the family you can let me have would be very welcome.

My email address is suzie@digisurf.net.au As we are family this has to be easier.

Kind regards
Suzanne

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

jharding197  (View posts) Posted: 9 May 2009 1:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: DONNELLY, MERRITT
Shirley Cecilia DONNELLY b 20.1.1920 and died in Adelaide some time between 1947 and 1970, husband or partner was Norman James MERRITT b 18.4.1917 at BOOLEROO and died Broken Hill 16.9.1982. Their daughter Laraine Shirley MERRITT b 2.10.1947 at Peterborough, any details of her marriages (been told she had 2) do not know husbands name or any issue they may have had. Would like to get the death details of Shirley Cecilia and marriage and issue details of Laraine. Hope you can help.

Regards June Harding

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 10 May 2009 3:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hope someone else on the board can help.
Problem is that the marriage transcripts are only releaeds up to 1937 due to privacy concerns.
I will search around in the next week or so to see if there are any newspaper records that are indexed which may assist - but there again would Peterborough marriages be in the Adelaide papers?

Heather

hobbis@dodo.com.au

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 13 May 2009 12:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
I checke in the Adelaide library yesterday without any result. Unfortunately the births only reach 1928, marriages 1937, but deaths up to 1972. (Privacy reasons)
There is no record of any death of a Shirley Donnelly in S.A. at all. Unfortunately there is no readily available index to newspaper personal notices for the period mentione, so got nowhere there either.

Heather

hobbis@dodo.com.au

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

bruchris175  (View posts) Posted: 9 Jun 2009 12:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pritchard
Hi Heather
I am hoping you may be able to help
I am looking fo James Pritchard 1825 who married Jane Fisher
James died march 1874 Jane feb 1893
I am looking for decendants in SA
My wife's line is from son George 30/6/1853 who with brothers William & James came to NSW Gold mining at copeland NSW
Hoping you may be able to help

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

graceparker179  (View posts) Posted: 11 Jun 2009 10:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Spillett
Dear Heather,
Thank you for your most generous offer. Edward Spillett died on 17 May 1870 and was buried at Penola on 19 May 1970. I am not sure if this is the Edward Spillett I am looking for. I would like to find if there are any details of parents and place of birth on a death certificate. Would you have access to such details. Of course, if nobody knew his background, there would be litte information on a death certificate. Edward Spillett was transported as a convict to Fremantle in 1850 age 32 on the ship "Scindian",15 year sentence, but was paroled in 1856. I am trying to trace him and the only entry I could find was a burial at Penola. There are seven by the name of Spillett buried at Penola. Would appreciate your views. Thanks, Grace Parker

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 11 Jun 2009 11:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Will check the death details in library today - but you would need the West. Australain board for any details that may be on shipping arrival record. Maybe too there is some convict register in UK.

Heather

hobbis@dodo.com.au

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

jackpowell123  (View posts) Posted: 16 Jun 2009 8:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi
Can you please look up a marriage record for Elizabeth Warne and Henry Thomas.
Jack

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

debs91  (View posts) Posted: 18 Jun 2009 11:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dihm, Galbraith
Hello Heather,

I hope you may be able to help with a marriage and death lookup for Mildred Agnes GALBRAITH who married (or was known as his wife at least) Edmund Conrad Thomas DIHM, or Deihm/Diehm/Deam. Mildred was born 1878 Victoria and had a son Tommy Dihm born about 1910-1915. I can find no record for her marriage, the birth of her son Tommy, or her death (or Tommy's death) in NSW or Victoria.

Mildred lived in Castlemaine Victoria in the 1920's, where she was known as Millie Dihm. She may have moved to South Australia where her stepfather lived.

I'd appreciate any information you may find, even if it is only to confirm whether or not she was in Sth Australia.

Thanks, Debbie

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

tiwnkleberry  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jun 2009 12:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Appreciate if anyone else could help for now as I am not very well at this time.

Heather

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

debs91  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jun 2009 1:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Heather,

I hope you're alright. Could I suggest that you change the original posting for this thread if you're able, as people may miss your last message and continue to ask for help. All the best.

Debbie

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jun 2009 1:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dihm
Hi Debbie

Did not find a marriage or death in SA for Millie. Did she use her own birth name or stepfather's surname?

This record confirms son Tommy was in SA at some stage though you may already know this? Looks like Tommy was born c1916.
South Australian Marriages, Registrations 1917-1937
Groom: Thomas DIHM
Bride: Irene TREVORROW
Date: 1937-06-12
Groom Age: 21
Status: S
Groom's Father: Thomas DIHM
Bride Age: 16
Status: S
Bride's Father: William TREVORROW
Place: St Peters Church Robe
District: Rob
Book/Page: 378/2398


South Australian Deaths, Registrations 1916 to 1972
Mildred Catherine DIHM
Date: 1944-07-05
Age: 6y
Status: C
Relative: Thomas DIHM [F]
Residence: Port Adelaide
Death Place: North Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol: H
Book: 678
Page: 3049


Rhonda

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jun 2009 2:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Warne, Thomas
Hi Jack

This is the THOMAS/WARNE marriage.
South Australian Marriages, Registrations 1842-1916
Groom: Henry THOMAS
Bride: Elizabeth Esther WARNE
Date: 1878-10-26
Groom Age: 19
Status: S
Groom's Father: William THOMAS
Bride Age: 20
Status: S
Bride's Father: Richard WARNE
Place: St Luke Parsonage [Adelaide]
District: Ade
Book/Page: 117/760


Rhonda

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

debs91  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jun 2009 3:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Wow Rhonda,

That looks like Tommy alright, thank you. No I didn't know Tommy was over there, he disappeared from Castlemaine Victoria along with his mother in the 1920's.

Mildred Dihm was born Mildred Agnes Galbraith. She was young when her mother married Charles Richmond Lampard, and may have used the surname Lampard I suppose, or remarried and died under a different name altogether after leaving Castlemaine. Millie's mother was Elizabeth (Bessie) Lampard, nee Galbraith, who died in Castlemaine in 1906. Millie's stepfather Charles Richmond Lampard died at Parkside Adelaide in 1938.

Mildred was an actress, according to her cousin's son who remembered Tommy, and died two days ago aged 93.

Thank you for the help Rhonda. If there are any further clues, I'd be very pleased to know.

Debbie

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

jmc39780  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jun 2009 3:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Debbie

Have you been to www.naa.gov.au

There are open records for an Edmund Conrad DIHM.

Cheers jmc39780

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

debs91  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jun 2009 10:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
You beauty jmc!

This is the same man that our Millie was 'married' to. I'd found two puzzling marriages for him in NSW, one to Charlotte Danvers in 1914, and I'd wondered if there were two men of the same name, but your find shows it's probably the same person. The war service record you've found for him shows that in 1916 he was "Married (wife deserted)" with wife Charlotte's name crossed out.

Edmund Conrad Thomas Dihm appears on the 1924 electoral roll at Doveton St Castlemaine (Millie's mother's property) along with our Millie Dihm. Then there is a second puzzling marriage in NSW of Edmund Conrad Thomas Dihm in 1942 to Christina McGregor Ross. Had Millie died before this?

In the meantime, what happened to Millie? We now know, thanks to Rhonda, that her son Tommy ended up in South Australia and married there.

Was Millie ever married to Edmund C T Dihm, and what happened to her? Thank you again jmc. I think we're about to crack the mystery.

Debbie

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jun 2009 1:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dihm
Hi Deb

Have you seen this record?

Dihm, Thomas; Army Number - 447022;
Date of birth - 21 June 1916
Series number B4747
Control symbol DIHM/THOMAS
Contents date range 1936 - circa 1946
Access status Open
Location Melbourne
Barcode 9275321

View digital copy
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Millie was still at Doveton St Castlemaine when son Thomas joined the Army just before his 20th birthday.


I noticed on the record found for you by jmc that it looks like Mildred's name was listed as n.o.k. but also crossed out?

Rhonda

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

debs91  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jun 2009 5:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dihm, Galbraith, Lampard, Ross
Rhonda,

I hadn't seen this WW2 Attestation record of Tommy Dihm’s and it’s a great find, thank you. It proves he was still in Castlemaine living with his mother Mrs M. [Mildred] Dihm in May 1936 (she was still alive), a mechanic working from home, born Daylesford 21 June 1916. I can't find his birth record, but maybe it wasn't registered.

So the following year, 1937, Thomas Dihm married in South Australia. His mother Millie was alive in 1936 but I’ve rechecked Victorian deaths for her after 1936 with no luck.

Yes I’d noticed that Millie was listed as a “(friend)” and next of kin at one stage on Edmund C T Dihm’s WW1 record – Mildred [Dihm crossed out] Lampard. It looks like Edmund’s second marriage in 1942 to Christina Ross went ahead, and she wrote to the department after he died in 1967, as Mrs C Dihm.

I’d say Millie possibly didn’t marry Edmund Dihm, but will say no more to respect the privacy of living Dihm, Galbraith or Lampard descendants.

Whether she went to South Australia with her son Tommy is still unknown. She could have died as Lampard, Dihm, Galbraith or some other name after 1936.

Thank you for the extra information you found Rhonda.

Debbie

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

leonieMURRAY23  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jun 2009 8:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
hi i'm looking for information on a richard mitchell who married a grace thomas on 1867 richard 22 grace 18,
graces father william thomas richards father samuel .
richard and grace were married at walleroo mines sa.
they had 2 children elizabeth and ernest if anyone has any info on this family could you contact me i have just found the ship art union where its from dont no can anyone help me im stumped.

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jun 2009 9:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mitchell, Thomas
Hi, the ship Art Union arrived 22 Aug 1864 Pt Adelaide from Plymouth, from where most Cornish emigrants embarked.

The Biographical Index SA has this entry:-
MITCHELL Richard b: c1844 CON ENG arr: 1864 ART UNION
occ: Copper Miner

Richard's death
South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915
Richard MITCHELL
Date: 1881-09-27
Age: 37y
Status: N
Relative: Grace MITCHELL (W)
Residence: Wallaroo
Death Place: Adelaide
District Code: Ade / Book: 113 / Page: 374
Symbol: S


Perhaps check out these possible records?
FreeBDMs
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Possible Mitchell parents????
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Dec 1839
LAWRY Jane Penzance 9 273
Mitchell Samuel Penzance 9 273

One of these births ????
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Births Sep
Mitchell Richard Penzance 9 209
Mitchell Richard Tavistock 9 466
Mitchell Richard James Truro 9 296



Cornwall OPC Database
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/searchdb.php?dbname=mar...

Marriages - Details of record ID 150308:
Parish or Registration District: Zennor
Date: 05-Oct 1839

GROOM: Samuel MITCHELL
Groom's age: Full
Groom's condition: Bach
Groom's rank/profession: Miner
Groom's residence: Tregurthen
Father: Samuel Mitchell
Father's rank/profession: Miner

BRIDE: Jane LAWRY
Bride's age: Full
Bride's condition: Spinster
Bride's rank/profession:
Bride's residence: Carne
Father: John LAWRY
Father's rank/profession: Miner

Banns(B) or Licence(L): Banns
Groom Signed(S) or Marked(M): M
Bride Signed(S) or Marked(M): M
Witness 1: John LAWRY


Rhonda

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

debs91  (View posts) Posted: 22 Jun 2009 2:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Howie, Lampard, Galbraith, Dihm
Hello Rhonda,

I'm hoping you can give Mildred Galbraith/Dihm one more try for me. I've looked up her natural father at Australian Newspapers beta at http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
and have found in newspaper articles that he moved from Victoria to Adelaide and was a friend of Millie's stepfather, Charles Lampard.

Her father was Robert HOWIE, horse trainer. I'm wondering if Mille may have reverted to that surname in South Australia, and died there as Mildred HOWIE? Could you please give her one more try?

Thanks, Debbie.

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jun 2009 1:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Debbie

None of the Mildred/Millie deaths in SA are anywhere near the age of Millie DIHM.

Perhaps tracing Tommy's descendants is the only hope?


Lots of luck
Rhonda

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

Darrell_Sommerville  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jun 2009 4:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Heather, I have seen you do work for other people and I think what you do is very commendable.
I am writing to you because I am increasingly frustrated when it comes to results for researchers for Australian results in these various web sites.
I am a Paid member of two sites which claim to provide Australian results and neither can find me a "Brown" from Millicent South Australia.
Can you believe that?
Great if you want to know something about UK or USA.
OR IS IT ME?
I am trying to find out more about John Joseph Brown born Millicent SA abt 1876, married Sylvia E Attrill in Dongarra WA on 4 Dec 1912.
JJ Brown is supposed to have a twin bro named Daniel or Edwin or ??.
Thanks you Heather
Kind regards
Darrell

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

RhondaEmbee  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jun 2009 11:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Darrell

Heather posted a message last week saying she is unwell at present and not doing any research.

Searching Ancestry for Australian records leaves a lot to be desired!

Birth records from 1842-1906 for BROWN in SA have 2,257 entries. The only John Joseph is the following and there was no twin.

South Australian Births 1842-1906 (c) SAGHS
John Joseph BROWN
Date: 1887-06-02
Father: James BROWN
Mother: Christina NICHOLSON
Birth Place/Residence: Naracoorte
District Code: Rob / Book: 396 / Page: 66


Only these two other children recorded for this family.

Winifred BROWN
Date: 1885-08-26
Father: James Joseph BROWN
Mother: Christina NICHOLSON
Birth Place/Residence: Naracoorte
District Code: Rob / Book: 359 / Page: 55

Domnick BROWN
Date: 1898-04-12
Father: James Joseph BROWN
Mother: Christina NICHOLSON
Birth Place/Residence: Lake Omeroo
District Code: Rob / Book: 619 / Page: 356


Rhonda

Re: FREE RESEARCH IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA

Darrell_Sommerville  (View posts) Posted: 24 Jun 2009 1:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you Rhonda.
Does it seem that most beneficial results are gained from the library as opposed to the web?
Cheers
darrell
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