Can anyone help me trace descendants of a Lilly Tait Struthers, her fathers name was John Struthers and as far as I know she spent time in an industrial school in New South Wales before being discharge into the care of her sister a Mrs Baird. I would really appreciate any information on Lilly or her sister Mrs Baird. Thank you Norry
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NSW BMD
8081/1944 Lillian Tate STRUTHERS married Edward John COLLINS District: Bankstown
This is possible sister 11671/1912 Hugh K BAIRD married Bella STRUTHERS District: Redfern
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 22 February 1943 BAIRD.-February 19. 1943, at Glen Davis (accidentally killed), Hugh Knox Baird, late of 36 Inverness Avenue, Penshurst, dearly loved husband of Isabella and lovlng father of Jessie, Betty. Mary, Peggy. Nancy, and Bonny, aged 60 years.
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 22 February 1943 BAIRD -The Relatives and Mends of Mrs I Baird and, Family of 36 Inverness Avenue Penshurst are invited to attend the Funeral of her dearly loved Husband and their d-ar Father Hugh Knox Baird which will leave oui Private Chanel 388 Forest Rond Hurstvlllle This Monday after service commencing at 3 p m for the Presby- terian Cemetery Woronora J and C Hardy A F D A Rockdale and Hurstville
Cheers tania
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Hi again They are buried together.
WORONORA CEMETERY
BAIRD HUGH KNOX Burial PRESBYTERIAN MONUMENTAL - SECTION ZZ - 0029 22/02/1943 BAIRD ISABELLA Ashes PRESBYTERIAN MONUMENTAL - SECTION ZZ - 0029 31/05/1982
This looks like death notice for Isabella via the " ryerson index" BAIRD Isabella Death notice 31MAY1982 Death 95 late of Balgownie Sydney Morning Herald 01JUN1982
Cheers Tania
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Hi
Found a service record at Australian National archives for Hugh BAIRD who is possibly the son of Hugh and Isabella not definite but what I noted was that he was born in Newnes NSW IN 1922 which was were Lily's sister was when lily was discharged in 1921.
BAIRD HUGH : Service Number - NX116119 : Date of birth - 10 May 1922 : Place of birth - NEWNES NSW : Place of enlistment - CANTERBURY NSW : Next of Kin - BAIRD HUGH
NSW archives STRUTHERS Lily Tait 14 yrs 6 mths 13/03/1919 23/12/1921 Conditionally discharged to her sister at Newnes NRS 14730 [5/4838]; Reel 3850, Page 237-238 Industrial Schools 1887-1925
Cheers Tania
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The death notice for Isabella Baird is accessible via Google's newspaper archive at http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=1...BAIRD, Isabella - May 31, 1982, at hospital, late of 12 Duncan Street, Balgownie, wife of the late Hugh Baird, loved mother of Jessie Carfield, Mary Isaacs, Peg Oatley, Nan Hiland, Hugh, and mother-in-law of Val, loved Gran of her grandchildren, dear sister of Margaret Guthrie, in her 96th year. "At home with the Lord."
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Hi Tania thank you for the information on Lillian and the Baird family I didn't expect to get a reply as quickly. Lillian or Lilly as I know her is a bit of a mystery girl she was born in Scotland to an ancestor of mine a Henrietta Kay who was the house keeper to John Struthers. I lost track of her in Scotland and just recently picked her up in Australia in the Industrial school. Now I know she became a Mrs Collins however it begs the questions did she have any children and did she herself know anything about her background. I wonder what became of her what she did with her life and where she is buried. All this research always bring up more questions. I really appreciate the information you sent me thanks again. Regards Norry
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Hi Norry,
In 1949, Lillian and Edward COLLINS were living at Walgett NSW, as per the electoral roll.
There is this death???
Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007 about Lillian Tate Fimmel
Name: Lillian Tate Fimmel Death Age: 76 Birth Date: abt 1881 Death Date: 4 Mar 1957 Cemetery: Barmedman Cemetery Location: Barmedman, New South Wales
Death registrations: 5928/1957 FIMMELL LILLIAN TATE JOHN TEMORA
24971/1957 FIMMEL BERTHOLD AUGUST JOHN TEMORA
Looks like the FIMMELL family are not connected. Here are their marriages....
20276/1957 FIMMEL BERTHOLD AUGUST KING RUBY TEMORA 12095/1936 FIMMEL BERTHOLD AUGUST THORN LILY TATE SYDNEY
Mary
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Hi Norry,
This appears to be a re-marriage for Mr Edward COLLINS in 1952....
13232/1952 COLLINS EDWARD JOHN OATES MARCIA JOAN NARROMINE
He is still living on the Gwydir, Narromine Electoral Roll in 1980, with the second wife.
Mary
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Hi Norry,
From austcemindex website, a photo of his headstone:
Collins Edward John 10 Feb 1932 28 Aug 1999 67 h/Joan; father Narromine General NSW Ang 2M
OK, Maybe this is a son, as this fellow was born in 1932 and married (1st time and only time) in 1952.
Mary
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Hi Norry
This isn't anything definite but found i On findmypast passenger list Liverpool to Sydney 1910 Lily Struthers Lizzi Struthers Maggie struthers No ages for any of these
This made me look for other possible sisters coming to Australia
Firstly we have Bella STRUTHERS marrying Hugh Knox BAIRD 1912 - this is the sister Lily went to live with. She died in 1982 went by Isabella Then there is a mention of another sister in Isabella's death notice Margaret GUTHRIE age 96 in. 1982. Found on NSW BMD - Margaret STRUTHERS married Victor H GUTHRIE 1922 This Margaret could be the Maggie on the same ship as Lily. Then came Lizzie on the ship I found a marriage in 1922 for Bessie STRUTHERS to Henry GOODLAD and a possible death in 1979 - death reg NSW - 24355/1979 GOODLAD ELIZABETH father: JOHN mother: HENRIETTA
I haven't had any luck in finding further information on Lily. I did consider the Lillian Tate FIMMELL but her DOB didn't match with DOB of 1904 which you provided.
I will try and see if I can find her.
Kind regards Tania
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