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Lilly Tait Struthers

Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 10 Jan 2014 3:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Lilly Tait Struthers
Can anyone help me trace descendants of a Lilly Tait Struthers, her fathers name was John Struthers and as far as I know she spent time in an industrial school in New South Wales before being discharge into the care of her sister a Mrs Baird. I would really appreciate any information on Lilly or her sister Mrs Baird.
Thank you
Norry

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 10 Jan 2014 8:45PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Struthers, Baird, Collins
NSW BMD

8081/1944 Lillian Tate STRUTHERS married Edward John COLLINS District: Bankstown

This is possible sister
11671/1912 Hugh K BAIRD married Bella STRUTHERS District: Redfern

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 22 February 1943
BAIRD.-February 19. 1943, at Glen Davis (accidentally killed), Hugh Knox Baird, late
of 36 Inverness Avenue, Penshurst, dearly loved husband of Isabella and lovlng father
of Jessie, Betty. Mary, Peggy. Nancy, and Bonny, aged 60 years.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 22 February 1943
BAIRD -The Relatives and Mends of Mrs I Baird and, Family of 36 Inverness
Avenue Penshurst are invited to attend the Funeral of her dearly loved Husband
and their d-ar Father Hugh Knox Baird which will leave oui Private Chanel 388
Forest Rond Hurstvlllle This Monday after service commencing at 3 p m for the Presby-
terian Cemetery Woronora J and C Hardy A F D A Rockdale and Hurstville

Cheers tania

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 10 Jan 2014 8:53PM GMT
Classification: Cemetery
Edited: 10 Jan 2014 8:57PM GMT
Surnames: Struthers, baird
Hi again
They are buried together.

WORONORA CEMETERY

BAIRD HUGH KNOX Burial PRESBYTERIAN MONUMENTAL - SECTION ZZ - 0029 22/02/1943
BAIRD ISABELLA Ashes PRESBYTERIAN MONUMENTAL - SECTION ZZ - 0029 31/05/1982

This looks like death notice for Isabella via the " ryerson index"
BAIRD Isabella Death notice 31MAY1982 Death 95 late of Balgownie Sydney Morning Herald 01JUN1982


Cheers
Tania

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 10 Jan 2014 9:44PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Struthers, Baird
Hi

Found a service record at Australian National archives for Hugh BAIRD who is possibly the son of Hugh and Isabella not definite but what I noted was that he was born in Newnes NSW IN 1922 which was were Lily's sister was when lily was discharged in 1921.

BAIRD HUGH : Service Number - NX116119 : Date of birth - 10 May 1922 : Place of birth - NEWNES NSW : Place of enlistment - CANTERBURY NSW : Next of Kin - BAIRD HUGH

NSW archives
STRUTHERS Lily Tait 14 yrs 6 mths 13/03/1919 23/12/1921 Conditionally discharged to her sister at Newnes NRS 14730 [5/4838]; Reel 3850, Page 237-238 Industrial Schools 1887-1925

Cheers Tania

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 11 Jan 2014 7:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Baird Carfield Isaacs Oatley Hiland Guthrie
The death notice for Isabella Baird is accessible via Google's newspaper archive at http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=1...

BAIRD, Isabella - May 31, 1982, at hospital, late of 12 Duncan Street, Balgownie, wife of the late Hugh Baird, loved mother of Jessie Carfield, Mary Isaacs, Peg Oatley, Nan Hiland, Hugh, and mother-in-law of Val, loved Gran of her grandchildren, dear sister of Margaret Guthrie, in her 96th year. "At home with the Lord."

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 11 Jan 2014 10:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Tania thank you for the information on Lillian and the Baird family I didn't expect to get a reply as quickly. Lillian or Lilly as I know her is a bit of a mystery girl she was born in Scotland to an ancestor of mine a Henrietta Kay who was the house keeper to John Struthers. I lost track of her in Scotland and just recently picked her up in Australia in the Industrial school. Now I know she became a Mrs Collins however it begs the questions did she have any children and did she herself know anything about her background. I wonder what became of her what she did with her life and where she is buried. All this research always bring up more questions. I really appreciate the information you sent me thanks again.
Regards Norry

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 11 Jan 2014 10:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Jan 2014 10:48AM GMT
Surnames: Collins
Hi Norry,

In 1949, Lillian and Edward COLLINS were living at Walgett NSW, as per the electoral roll.

There is this death???


Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
about Lillian Tate Fimmel

Name: Lillian Tate Fimmel
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: abt 1881
Death Date: 4 Mar 1957
Cemetery: Barmedman
Cemetery Location: Barmedman, New South Wales


Death registrations:
5928/1957 FIMMELL LILLIAN TATE JOHN TEMORA

24971/1957 FIMMEL BERTHOLD AUGUST JOHN TEMORA


Looks like the FIMMELL family are not connected. Here are their marriages....

20276/1957 FIMMEL BERTHOLD AUGUST KING RUBY TEMORA
12095/1936 FIMMEL BERTHOLD AUGUST THORN LILY TATE SYDNEY

Mary

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 11 Jan 2014 10:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Collins
Hi Norry,

This appears to be a re-marriage for Mr Edward COLLINS in 1952....

13232/1952 COLLINS EDWARD JOHN OATES MARCIA JOAN NARROMINE

He is still living on the Gwydir, Narromine Electoral Roll in 1980, with the second wife.

Mary

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 11 Jan 2014 11:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Collins
Hi Norry,

From austcemindex website, a photo of his headstone:

Collins Edward John 10 Feb 1932 28 Aug 1999 67 h/Joan; father Narromine General NSW Ang 2M

OK, Maybe this is a son, as this fellow was born in 1932 and married (1st time and only time) in 1952.

Mary

Re: Lilly Tait Struthers

Posted: 11 Jan 2014 11:29AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Struthers, Baird, Guthrie, Johnson, Collins
Hi Norry

This isn't anything definite but found i
On findmypast passenger list Liverpool to Sydney 1910
Lily Struthers
Lizzi Struthers
Maggie struthers
No ages for any of these

This made me look for other possible sisters coming to Australia

Firstly we have
Bella STRUTHERS marrying Hugh Knox BAIRD 1912 - this is the sister Lily went to live with. She died in 1982 went by Isabella
Then there is a mention of another sister in Isabella's death notice Margaret GUTHRIE age 96 in. 1982. Found on NSW BMD - Margaret STRUTHERS married Victor H GUTHRIE 1922 This Margaret could be the Maggie on the same ship as Lily. Then came Lizzie on the ship I found a marriage in 1922 for Bessie STRUTHERS to Henry GOODLAD and a possible death in 1979 - death reg NSW - 24355/1979 GOODLAD ELIZABETH father: JOHN mother: HENRIETTA

I haven't had any luck in finding further information on Lily. I did consider the Lillian Tate FIMMELL but her DOB didn't match with DOB of 1904 which you provided.

I will try and see if I can find her.

Kind regards
Tania
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