need any info on Wm Creed Thomas b.23 July 1874 I belive in TN He died Eastren St Hosp Nov 10 1923. He was married 2 times 1st unknown 2th to Georgia Jerred at Creston Oct 8,1904.My aunt was 16 yr's old and he was 30 when married. Also does any one have a picture of Hellsgate rapids before the Dam as Creed was one of the young men who shot the rapids it was one of the thing that attracted Georgia to him

This question and answer are posted on GenForum Washington, Lincoln Co Message Board, http://genforum.genealogy.com

Actually, the search was not answered. This is not GenForum. The answers given there did not satisfy the researcher. One can NOT ask for records from Eastern State Hospital and "just be a relative" and have records released to you. Records are SEALED and can not be just released. Other records of death were not found.

Ron Bestrom

Judy, thank you so much. The parents are dif from what I have but the one you stated seem to be more to the point will do more checking as for Georgia Alice Jerred b.16 May 1887 Chester IA d 8 Apr 1962 She remarried Clyde Roscoe Jones 24 Feb 1930 in Lincoln co WA

Hi Raedene, since Georgia Alice remarried, it's no wonder I couldn't find her death record.

If you are interested in Creed's info from Eastern Washington State Hospital, check out http://www1.dshs.wa.gov/mentalhealth/medrecords.shtml . My girlfriend's grandfather died there about the same time (part of the hospital was where they treated hard-ship medical cases) and she did get a copy of his records. Successful Searching!

He was listed as "Creed" Thomas at his death on 10 Nov 1923 in Medical Lake, Washington. It is found at: http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/default.aspx If you require a copy of the certificate, please contact the Center for Health Statistics at the
Washington State Department of Health at (360) 236-4300 or
http://www.doh.wa.gov/EHSPHL/CHS/cert.htm. The full certificate "might" identify the cause of death.

Do you have specific information that he died at Eastern State Hospital? It IS in Medical Lake. The fact that he died at Medical Lake does not mean he was a patient there for mental health reasons. It was a major medical center even then.

Eastern State Hospital:
http://www.dshs.wa.gov/Mentalhealth/esh.shtml

Obtaining records: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 71.05.390
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/supdefault.aspx?cite=71.05.390
(14) Upon the death of a person, his or her next of kin, personal representative, guardian, or conservator, if any, shall be notified.
Next of kin who are of legal age and competent shall be notified under this section in the following order: Spouse, parents, children, brothers and sisters, and other relatives according to the degree of relation. Access to all records and information compiled, obtained, or maintained in the course of providing services to a deceased patient shall be governed by RCW 70.02.140.

In 2004, House Bill 2387, allowed for the release of information concerning the location of persons buried in hospital cemeteries. If you have a family member that you think might be buried in the hospital’s cemeteries, contact the Medical Record Department at (509) 299-4335. The staff will determine if you are authorized to receive information regarding patients who have been buried in the hospital’s cemeteries and will assist you with your questions.
From the above RCW:
(16) To mark headstones or otherwise memorialize patients interred at state hospital cemeteries. The department of social and health services shall make available the name, date of birth, and date of death of patients buried in state hospital cemeteries fifty years after the death of a patient.
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I found your family tree online, and also works by "unknown". Perhaps you have the following, if so, good; if not, hope it helps. I'm also posting so it is available to anyone else seeking on Rootsweb:

Georgie Jerred, born 1887, died 1982, buried in Keller, WA. She was daughter of John Robert Jerred, born 1 April 1958 in Howard Co, Iowa; and Bridgett McNamara, born 4 April 1854 in Minnesota. Her first marriage was to Creed Thomas. Her second was to a Jones. Another tree identified she had married Creed Thomas Clyde JONES...as being one person.

The Bureau of Land Management has land patent records (Homestead Act)
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
These records include land purchases made by William Creed Thomas (Enter as Washington State, first name William, last name Thomas). Two were in 1907, a third in 1926. The 1926 purchase was made by Georgia J. (Jerred?) Thomas, widow of William Creed Thomas.

The 1926 land was located in the Willamette Meridian, Range 34-E, Township 28-N and Section 27 (the north half of the SW Quarter; and, the SW Quarter of the NW Quarter)
The 1906 land was in Range 34-E, Township 28-N and Section 27 in the land identified as the same.
The Second 1906 land was in Section 28.

If you do not know where this land was located:
Go to: http://www.esg.montana.edu/gl/trs-data.html
Enter "Washington", the Township 28-N, Range 34-E and Section 27
-The next window has some information on the location, note the Pheasant Springs at a distance of 979 meters.
-Now Click on "Switch to TerraServer" in the middle of the page.

In the next window, click on "TopoMap", and also the largest blue box for size.
--In the next window, a topo map, you'll see "Pheasant Spring in blue near the center bottom. All of the red boxes are Sections. Now, click on the red box holding the word "Pheasant Springs". Now, click on it again. You will now see a red "27" in the middle of a red box. This is where the land was located.

Now, for Hellsgate Rapids. This had to be prior to the Grand Coulee Dam, probably located in the now flood area of the Lake Roosevelt, part of the Coulee Dam National Recreation Area (Now known as Lake Roosevelt NRA, part of the National Park Service). Are you familiar with any of the Park Rangers that worked in the Keller area in recent years...back to the late 1960's? I worked for the NPS and was good friends with Hilliary Brown that was in that area. Not that has bearing; but, in the event you knew him.

The NPS Rangers might have historical Topo maps that would identify the Hellsgate Rapids: http://www.nps.gov/laro/ It has been YEARS (1975) since I worked there as a Ranger; but the Park Historian or Naturalist might be able to help you.

Ron Bestrom

Ron, Thank you so much I have most of what you posted.Georgia did remarry to a Clyde Roscoe Jones.She had a very hard life as Creed was mentaly ill I belive he was a resident a Eastern St Hospital for about 2 yr's befor his death. Cause of death was demintia parslytica (sp?) it is hard to make out he was burried hospital cemetery Nov 13,1923 listed as his mother was Rebecca but his marriage papers say a Jane Woods so I belive his father was married 2 times but can't find 1st time.Also on one census it has a brother in law Wiley Woods living withe Joseph and Rebecca.
I know the Keller area well as I lived in and around that area for many yr's

dementia paralytic, Also called Bayle's disease and General Paresis.
A brain disease occurring as a late consequence of syphilis, characterized by dementia, progressive muscular weakness, and paralysis.

Here is a study on this subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis

Now, based on your last posting, you are looking for the first wife of Joseph Thomas, not William Creed?

As you have, the 1880 Census for Lewis, Holt County, Missouri
Joseph B Thomas, 32 (1847/1848), born in Tennessee to both parents born in TN.
Rebecca S, age 22, born in Missouri to father born in Ohio, mother in New York
Wiley Woods, age 17, brother-in-law, born in Tennessee to both parents born in TN
-- So, based on the hopeful accuracy of the enumerator, this Wiley Woods could not be the brother of Rebecca, as their parents were born different states.
-- But, this Wiley Woods "Could" be the brother-in-law of Joseph Thomas, not by the marriage of Joseph to a sister of Wiley; but, Wiley could have married Joseph's sister. Thus, he would still be a brother-in-law. But, now, this Wiley was only 17 at the time of the census. So, while this relationship is "possible", it is probably a bit more possible that Wiley was a brother to a former wife of Joseph, who you had identified as possibly being a "Jane Woods".

In the 1870 census, I looked for any "Wil*" Wood*, (where * is a wildcard for ANY letters following), born plus/minus 5 years of 1863. I looked at many, but did not find a person with this criteria that ALSO had a sister Jane old enough to have married after the 1870 census. I did find a William Woods that had a sister Jane, but she was only 1.

As far as Joseph's marriages, that search will need to be done in Tennessee and Missouri.

Ron Bestrom

Ron.
Yes I am looking for 1st wife of Joseph Thomas "Jane Woods". On William Creed and Georgia's marriage record William Creed states his mother was Jane Woods.Also he stated that this was 2rd marriage who was 1st wife?
again thanks

For any one else who might be interested
I found a 1889 Lincoln co census with Creed and his fanily J D Thomas age 41 Rebecca F age 31 Les P age16,W C age 14,Stella age5,Nelly M age4.