Douglas - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Beebe, WA

jkcrane88 — 2009-08-09 16:34:53Z

I found this website I hope it helps: http://reneechelan.com/beebe_ranch.html

Joyce

Re: Hicksville

jkcrane88 — 2009-08-09 16:29:16Z

I thought you may like to view a 1909 map if you zoom in you can see where Hicksville is. I zoomed in at 150% and found the town immediately. It is near the center of Washington just NE of Moses Lake and north of Wheeler:
http://www.secstate.wa.gov/history/maps_view.aspx?m=16&i...

Re: SANFORD

judyartley53 — 2009-06-19 17:02:09Z

Hi,
Hicksville became the town of Wheeler. FYI

Re: Imogene Johnston Gibson

RBestrom7380 — 2009-06-04 05:42:06Z

Joyce,
As a volunteer for RAOGK, you should know specific information on the person you seek, such as DOB, family names, and what info you have. Do you have the obits of her brothers and sisters? What info do you have on her after 1937? OR...are you JUST looking for someone knowing her in 1937 in Wenatchee? Since that was 72 years ago, chances are slim someone remembers her.

You "probably" have the below, I didn't and needed it for research purposes.

The 1920 Census for Portland, Multnomah Co, Oregon, living at 4630 63rd Street:
Charles W. Johnston, age 43, born in Iowa to both parents born in Pennsylvania, plumber.
Maude, age 39, born in Oregon
Winifred 13
Imogene 11 (Born circa 1908/1909)
Ralph 9
Mary 9
Benjamin 7
Ethel, age 8/12.
-all children born in Oregon
--Census enumerated 13 January, so Ethel born about April 1919.

I find two family trees on Ancestry.com with Imogene that matches your info AND the census data on this family. Identified the link in the event you have Ancestry.com, if not possibly thru your local library.

1. Owned by b314clipper,
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?pid=-1208996419&...=
since you have anonymous address on Rootsweb, I can't know if this is you or someone else; thus, I did not send a message to theis person. This tree showed:
Imogene Arlete Johnston, born 3 May 1908 in Portland, married Milo D. Gibson (1904-30 August 1974). Imogene died 27 Feb 1975. No children identified.

2. Owned by Klveimer50
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?pid=-609715683&...=
Basic the same as above.

If you are not either of the above, either may or may not have information.

Ron Bestrom

Re: SANFORD

RBestrom7380 — 2009-06-02 05:29:40Z

Rose,
What additional do you know about these two? A date of birth, place of birth would help. If you have knowledge of Anna after he died, "Died before 1920", that might help. The Marriage Certificate is typed, thus not subject to handwriting evaluation, but there could have been a typo or other errors. Milford could have been Wilford? Sanford as Sandford? Any additional you have might help.

The Bureau of Land Management has a database for Land purchased under the Homestead Act:
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
Click on "Search Land Patents".
It shows a John Zickler obtaining 160 acres of land in Grant County on 9/21/1908. The land was in the Willamette Meridian, Township 22-North, Range 30-East, Section 34, the SW corner. I can show you how to find this property if there is a connection.
--The 1910 Census for Krupp, Grant Co, WA
John Zickler, age 41, born in Germany
Anna, 36, born in Germany, mother of 6, 4 living.
follows are four children, none were Anna, one was Elsie age 16, per an online family tree, she married a Booker C. James.
--A son was William Zickler, a William Zickler was a witness to the marriage, but this one was born in 1896, making him 12 by 1908.
Census enumerated 10-12 May.
--There were other Zickler's in Grant County in the 1910 Census, but difficult to determine which

There was no purchase by a Milford/WIlford/etc. Sanford; but there was one for Frank, if that was his middle name, of 80 Acres on 4/11/1912.

There was a William Zickler, born 1889 in Montana, living in Everett, WA in the 1910 Census. In the 1900 Census, he was living in Gem, Shoshone County, Idaho, with siblings and parents Louis and Annie Zickler. Was this Annie, his mother, who married Sanford? This Annie was born April 1865 in Germany.

Other than that, any attempt without further identification of your known facts would only be speculation. There is no proof given that they lived after 1908 in Hicksville, or taking it further, that they lived in Washington. You may have additional to help resolve this block.

Re: Imogene Johnston Gibson

JoyceSnell64 — 2009-06-02 05:09:39Z

Thanks for info.

I'm also a volunteer for RAOGK . . .

Joyce Snell

Re: Hicksville

judyartley53 — 2009-06-02 03:24:00Z

Hi Rose,
Hicksville was the first name of the town of Wheeler which is about 12 miles east of Moses Lake near the Adams County line. Hicksville/Wheeler was settled by Germans from Russia and was named Hicksville until about 1911.

Thanks go to Fred Pflugrath for this info.

Re: Imogene Johnston Gibson

judyartley53 — 2009-06-02 03:20:32Z

Hi Joyce,
An Imogene Gibson b. 3 May 1908, Last Residence=Portland, Multnomah Co., OR 97216 died Feb. 1975. Her soc. sec. # was assigned in Oregon before 1951. Source: Social Security Death Index, www.ancestry.com.

An Imogene A. Gibson b. May 1908, Spouse-Milo, d. 27 Feb 1975, Multnomah Co per death cert #75-03181. Source: OR Death Index 1903-98, www.ancestry.com.

You can request a copy of her obituary from Random Acts Genealogical Kindness, www.raogk.org, read instructions, choose Oregon, choose Multnomah Co and look for Kristeen.

If you're interested in her life when she lived in Wenatchee, contact the Wenatchee Area Genealogy Society, www.wags-web.org . They do research for a reasonable fee and have the Chelan County Polk Directories. Successful Searching!

Re: SANFORD

judyartley53 — 2009-06-02 02:45:20Z

Hi Rose,
I found Milford and Anna's marriage license in the Washington State Digital Archives but I didn't find anything definite about them which surprizes me since they married in 1908.

I checked the Wenatchee Area Genealogy Society's index of Chelan and Douglas County cemeteries but didn't find Anna or Milford Sanford.

I did find an Anna Sanford b. 10 Dec 1884, Last Residence=Spokane, WA 99216 who died September 1969. Her soc. sec. # was assigned in WA in 1964. Source: Social Security Death Index, www.ancestry.com.

I found an Allyn M. Sanford b. abt. 1890 who died in Spokane 13 Jan 1948 per death cert #1395. Source: WA Death Index 1940-96, www.ancestry.com.

I'd look up Anna Sanford's obituary first since that's the more promising name. You can request a copy of an obituary in Spokane County from Random Acts Genealogical Kindness, www.raogk.org, read instructions, choose Washington, choose Spokane County, Becky.

If that doesn't work out, the Washington State Library, www.secstate.wa.gov/library/ask.aspx , will look for an obituary up to 60 minutes at no charge in the newspaper microfilm. They will email you about what they do or don't find and it takes about two weeks.

I'm also trying to find out about the town of Hicksville that they were married in. Successful Searching!

Re: 1930 census, Bridge twshp

SwimrefK — 2009-05-19 21:16:04Z

in looking at the 1930 census for Douglas Co, there lists a township of Bridge. Does anyone know if that was a short spelling for Bridgeport, or was there actually a town of Bridge

Neither one. Bridge Precinct is what later became the city of East Wenatchee. It was the area around the east end of the first bridge across the Columbia River to Wenatchee. Please note that Douglas County never had townships, Bridge was an election precinct.

Re: Hamilton

judyartley53 — 2009-05-05 17:32:54Z

Hi Kelly,

My previous description of the Hamilton Cemetery IS the Hamilton Cemetery. Since I live about 10 miles from it, I am a local researcher.

If you follow the previous directions to the Hamilton Cemetery, you'll end up in a housing development where no cemetery was ever located.

If you decide you want access, contact me and I'll look up the local contact because there is a gate which is locked.

Re: Hamilton

RBestrom7380 — 2009-05-01 05:22:01Z

>>The other poster said:
The Hamilton Cemetery is a private family cemetery located on the lower slope of Badger Mountain. Unfortunately because of its isolation, vandals have done their damage over the years but now a gate has been put up which deters all except those who hike in. I've always wondered about the Hamilton family who started it. Must have been Wiley's ancestors.

That is the Badger Mountain Cemetery:
http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=15&Z=10&...
Badger Mountain:
http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=116:3:1528346591...

The Hamilton Cemetery: To reach cemetery go north on Eastmont Ave. After 1 1/2 miles from 15th St NE on the road to Fancher Field, turn right on dirt road, (Sand Canyon).
http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=14&Z=10&...

If Wiley and Dora were born in Kentucky, it may have been their cemetery, or related to the original owner; but probably not one of their ancestors. Perhaps since you live in East Wenatchee you could visit the Genealogy Society and ask. I don't live there and don't believe people that don't live in an area should be doing the genealogy in that area. That should be left for competent local researchers.

Re: Hamilton

judyartley53 — 2009-05-01 04:01:30Z

Hi Kelly,
Ron did a great job of providing all the information he found. However, some is some more.

A May Hamilton of Chelan Co. married Carl E. Emmett of Chelan County 14 March 1923, Wenatchee, Chelan Co. Witnesses: Ernest J. Wilhoite and W. H. Hamilton. Source: Washington State Digital Archives, www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/ . You can view and print a copy of the actual document.

A Dora Lou Hamilton d. 20 May 1959, Wenatchee, Chelan Co., Age=76, Father=William Willis, Mother=Elizabeth Powers. Source: Washington State Digital Archives. Same web site as above. You can view and print an index of the document.

A Harold Noakes b. Feb. 15, 1949, d. July 1976, Wenatchee, WA. Source: Washington State Digital Archives. Possibly a son of Alice and Harold Noakes.

A Carl E. Emmett Estimated Birth Year=abt. 1900, Residence=Tacoma, Pierce Co., Died 12 Oct 1981, Tacoma per death cert #026472. Source: WA Death Index 1940-96, www.ancestry.com.

A Carl Emmett b. 8 April 1900, Last Residence=98409, Tacoma, d. Oct. 1981. His soc. sec. # was assigned in WA before 1951. Source: Social Security Death Index, www.ancestry.com.

An Alice Noakes b. Jan 20, 1919 d. Sept. 1985, Wenatchee, Last Residence=98801. Source: Washington State Digital Archives.

A May Emmett b. 29 May 1904, Last Residence=98408, Tacoma, d. 31 Dec 1994. Her soc. sec. # was assigned in WA before 1951. Source: Social Security Death Index, www.ancestry.com.

A May E. Emmett Estimated Birth year=abt. 1904, Age=90, REsidence=Tacoma, d. 31 Dec 1994, Tacoma per death cert #039221. Source: WA Death Index 1940-96, www.ancestry.com.

A Harold L. Noakes b. Aug. 10, 1921, Last Residence Zip Code=98801, Wenatchee d. Nov 18, 2008. Source: WA State Digital Archives.

The Hamilton Cemetery is a private family cemetery located on the lower slope of Badger Mountain. Unfortunately because of its isolation, vandals have done their damage over the years but now a gate has been put up which deters all except those who hike in. I've always wondered about the Hamilton family who started it. Must have been Wiley's ancestors.

The Wenatchee Area Genealogy Society has a notebook regarding the Cemetery and people buried there. They also have Polk City/County Directories which should provide more information about the families who stayed in the Wenatchee Valley. Their web page is www.wags-web.org and they do research. They have scrapbooks of clippings out of the local newspapers which might shed more light on your families. Successful Searching!

Imogene Johnston Gibson

JoyceSnell64 — 2009-04-28 01:28:11Z

Seeking info on Imogene Gibson who was living in Wenatchee, WA in 1937 when her father, Charles William Johnston, died in Portland, OR. Her mother was Maude. She had 2 brothers and 3 sisters. If you know of Imogene and/or her family, please contact me. I'm related by marriage to one of her sisters: Ethel.

Hicksville

RoseLauzier — 2009-03-04 19:26:55Z

Does anyone know where in Douglas Co. Wa. was the town of Hicksville? Found a marriage record for Milford F. Sanford and Anna Esther Zickler, married January 29th 1908 at Hicksville, Douglas Co. WA. Can't find it on any map.

SANFORD

RoseLauzier — 2009-03-04 19:26:08Z

Looking for burial place of Milford F. SANFORD. Died before
1920. Married Anna Esther Zickler on Jan.29th 1908 at Hicksville, Douglas Co. WA.

Hicksville

RoseLauzier — 2009-03-04 19:23:17Z

Re: Hamilton

RBestrom7380 — 2009-02-07 07:26:55Z

I see this is your first posting on Rootsweb (at least under this user name). In future postings, identify what information you have on a person, date of birth, place of birth, most important. If you don't, identify parents, siblings, children, something for a research helper to grasp onto. This wasn't important in this case, as there was only one person by this name in Washington; but had it been "John", that would have really slowed down the search.

I also found your family tree online, so I know you have the census information. Most researchers will also look at what is in that census to identify children, etc. Especially, if you don't name names.
--Your tree identified his wife as "Ada", I could only find "Dora", except in the death certificate. Dora is there also and is buried with Wiley. Was she a second wife?
--The Wiley Dean Hamilton in your family tree, was born 12/16/1937. His father would have been 56/57, Dora about the same age, or was his a different mother? The Social Security Death Index has a W.D. Hamilton, born 16 Dec 1937/Died Jan. 1989 in Nebraska. I don't find a connection.
--- I do find an Adah Hyslop in the 1900 census, born June 1889 in Nebraska, living in Harrison & Robb Precincts, Gosper Co, Nebraska, parents William and Nettie

You had the census, I had to look:
The 1910 Census on Ancestry-to light, on Heritage Quest:
Wiley, 30?, born Kentucky (KY)
Dora 31?
Mary 5
Addie 2
The 1920 Census for Wenatchee, Chelan Co, WA
Wiley, age 39 (circa 1881), born in Kentucky, grocer
Dora L, 35 (circa 1885), KY
Mary 15, KY
Addie 12, born in Washington
William C. 9, WA
Belva, 5, WA
Alice 11/12, census enumerated January, so Alice born about February 1919. Born in WA.

The 1930 Census for Wenatchee
Wiley D, age 49 (circa 1881)
Dora, 47
Addie, 22
Belva 15
Alice 11 (census enumerated in April)

The 1930 Census for the Washington State Reformatory, Park Place, Snohomish County, WA
Cletus W. Hamilton, inmate, age 18, born in WA to both parents born in KY, laborer, lawn crew.

Washington Birth Index. To: Wiley D and Dora Willis
Cletu?? Hamilton, born 11 May 1911, male (probably Cletus William)
Unnamed 6 July 1914, female. (probably Belva)

Washington Death Certificate Index:
Wiley Hamilton died 22 Feb 1939 in Seattle, King County, at age 55 years, 11 months, 27 days (This would have been March 15, 1883). Married to Ada Hamilton, father was Jack Hamilton, mother Phoebe Ellen Patton.
--Dora Lou Hamilton, did 20 May 1959 in Wenatchee, Chelan County, WA at age 76 years, father was William Willis, mother Elizabeth Powers.
--The World War I Draft Registration Card image database shows Wiley D. Hamilton was born 15 Mar 1878. (Married to Dora).
--So, between the Census, Death Certificate and WWI Draft, there is difference up to 5 years

The Chelan County Recorder document search http://www.co.chelan.wa.us/ad/adr_main.htm
has:
NOTE: These may or may not be the correct persons, By clicking on the names, there are images; they either are not working tonight, or no images due to the age of the documents. Additional proof must be obtained to verify.
--Cletus W. Hamilton, marriage application 5/4/1936 to Jessie Thelma Mohn. Marriage application 4/5/1949 to Iryne E. Quall.
--Marriage application Belva Lucille Hamilton to Archie Clare Mustoe on 7/25/1936
--Marriage Application: Alice Hamilton to Guy Olson, 12/18/1931. Marriage application 12/24/1947 to Harold L. Noakes.
--Marriage Application 5/14/1927, Addie Hamilton to Elmer W. Annis.
--Ada Hamilton, marriage application to Ottis Adams 4/22/1939. "IF this is Ada, the wife of Wiley at his death, she certainly didn't wait too long.

Social Security Death Index:
Cletus Hamilton, born 11 May 1911, died July 1976, last residence in Wenatchee.
WA Death Index, died 10 Jul 1976 in Douglas County.
--The Social Security Death Index "last residence" does not necessarily mean that was where the person lived, but where a final payment (death payment) was sent. Or, the location where the person/company was located that notified the Social Security Administration of the death.

Your tree didn't show, but you may have:
Here is a listing of obituaries for Hamilton. Dora 1959, Cletus 1976, Wiley 1939, etc.
http://www.wags-web.org/obits/h.html

You may or may not already have:
Here are their burial places:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/wa/douglas/hamilton/hamilto...

You can order obits FREE:
The Washington State Library has a free research service, the ask-a-librarian program, where they will look for information in the archives, in this case the newspaper microfilm for an event, such as an obituary. They will look up to an hour and send you the results. Contact them at: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/library/ask.aspx .

Ron Bestrom

Chris Hansen family

KinsleuthUSA — 2008-07-31 22:22:13Z

Anyone have information on descendants of Chris Hansen who farmed in Mansfield for many years and died in 1963? I am doing a history of the family of his first wife Meta Lassen and would like to contact any of their children or grandchildren. They had a son Richard Hansen and three daughters, Christine Bayliss, Agnes Graves and Anna Belle Schutter.

Re: Chris Hansen family

KinsleuthUSA — 2008-08-01 20:55:33Z

Thank you for your research and suggestions. I do have obituaries for Chris and Meta Hansen which seem to confirm the other information I provided. My main interest is the parents of Meta given, as you noted, in the state index as Marisness and Esther. I found Meta in the 1900 Census in Seattle with a Marinus Lassen, probably her father (he listed as widowed). In the 1910 and 1920 Census she is living with Hans and Annie Lassen in Hayward, Calif., they being her adoptive parents. I suspect Hans was a brother of Marinus. I have found no death or burial record for Marinus or his wife Esther. Meta's obituary said she was born in Sacramento, Calif., in 1897. That is about all I have. Thanks again. Any further suggestions welcome

Birth Records

smithriver — 2008-06-05 22:45:37Z

Does anyone know where I can find birth records prior to 1907 for the Farmer area. I have an Uncle born in 1903, my Mother in 1904, another Uncle in 1906 and an Aunt in 1907.

Re: Chris Hansen family

RBestrom7380 — 2008-08-01 06:41:58Z

You will have more success in assistance if, when you post, you would identify specific information on who you seek, especially the date of birth, place of birth, etc. Also post what information you already have, such as census data, where/when children were born, what information you have on the spouses of the children, etc. The likelihood that you will receive help from a researcher is much more than actually finding a family member. So, help out the researcher.

But, your data did give somewhat of a start into research:

The Social Security Death Index (SSDI) shows a Chris Hansen, born 11 July 1891, died Sep 1963. His Social Security Number (SSN) was 534-09-4189, issued in WA before 1963. There was no further information.
--You can request a copy of his original application for his SSN through the Social Security Administration. That would show the names of his parents, where he was living at the time of submission and other information.

The Washington Death Index did not show his name. But, the online WDI did not show ANYONE with a death in 1963 on Ancestry.com.

The World War I Draft Registration Card Image Database:
For that date of birth, there was a Chris Benton Hansen, born July 11, 1891 in Ironwood(?), Michigan, living in Seattle. He was a Baker at the Georgetown Bakery (Georgetown is an area just in the south of Seattle).
---BUT, the following basically could disprove the above person is the person you seek. Unless you have specific information on "your" Chris Hansen, the person on the SSDI could be this person and not "your" Chris Hansen. The date of birth on this wrong Chris Hansen is the same as the person dying in Sep 1963.

--You would need an obituary to prove otherwise. Do you have the obituary of "your" Chris Hansen? You can have a search conducted free through the Washington State Library, they look for one hour; BUT, you would need to know the exact date of death and place of death/or where an obit was published.

---"your" Chris Hansen-------

The 1920 Census for Saint Andrews, Douglas County, WA
Chris Hansen, age 28 (circa 1891/1892), born in Denmark, immigrated in 1910, naturalized in 1918, farmer
Meta E, age 22, born in California
"Ditlev" P. , brother, age 26, born in Denmark, immigrated in 1911, farmer

The 1930 Census for Burke, Douglas County, WA
Chris HansOn (with an "O"), age 38, born in Denmark, immigrated 1910, farmer renting his land, was first married at age 27 (circa 1918/1919)
Meta E, age 33 (Circa 1896/1897), born in California to both parents born in Denmark, first married at age 21 (1917/1918...so between the two, "probably" 1918).
Meta C, dau, 9 (circa 1920/1921)
Agnes E, 7 (circa 1922/1923)
Anna B, 6 (circa 1923/1924)
Richard S.W. 4 6/12 (census enumerated April 8/9 1930, so born circa Oct 1925)
Hans, brother, age 45. born in Denmark

The Washington Death Certificate Index shows Meta Esther Hansen Died 27 March 1937 in Wenatchee, Chelan County, WA, at age of 40 years, 2 months and 4 days (1897). She was married to Chris. her father was Marisness Lassen, mother Esther.

I found no Christine Bayliss in Washington.
I found an Agnes O Graves, (middle initial "O" does not match) in Seattle.
I found no Anna Shutter in Washington, none born circa 1923 death in the USA.

----posted family tree------
I found two submitted family trees having Meta Esther Lassen. One submitted by b_aa@hotmail.com updated August 2001. The other by baaj@sol.dk (dk indicates an email address of Denmark) updated March 2001. So the email address may be old.

The information in the trees indicate Meta was born 23 January 1897 in Denmark an died 27 March 1937 in Wilbur, Washington. She was married to Kristian Hansen, born 5 September 1891 in Skonager, Næsbjerg Sogn, Denmark and died 2 December 1963 in Mansfield, Washington.
--Note: For Meta, the date of death matches the WA Death Certificates, but not the place. The date of death for Chris does not match the SSDI or your date.

The b-aa@hotmail data shows Agnes married to Richard E. Graves, and "AnnaBelle" married to Aksel Schutter, born in Denmark.
------------------

The 1930 Census for Manson, Chelan County, shows an Ernest Schutter, born Germany with wife Marie and son Walter-born 1918.
--The Washington Death Index shows a Florence M Schutter, death in Wenatchee in 1987 at age 1908, residence in Douglas County. Also, a Prosper J. Shutter, death in Wenatchee on 10 August 1990 at age 85, residence in Douglas County.

So, basically, there isn't any "confirmed" information on this family since 1937. The death date of Chris as you have was Sep 1963, but there is also another person that could have been this individual. The person having the family tree data shows the date of death as Dec 1963, but there is no information to confirm that data.

If you have specific date of deaths on ANY of the family, you could try:
The Washington State Library has a free research service, the ask-a-librarian program, where they will look for information in the archives, in this case the newspaper microfilm for an event, such as an obituary. They will look up to an hour and send you the results. Contact them at: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/library/ask.aspx . Depending on the amount of requests, it could take up to a couple of weeks.
-If interested you can look at the catalog of holdings at: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/library/microfilm.aspx

For genealogy help, there isn't much in Douglas County
http://genealogytrails.com/wash/douglas/index.html
http://www.genealogylinks.net/usa/washington/Douglas.htm

Mansfield today has a population of 320.

Not much on this family, perhaps you have additional?

Ron Bestrom

Re: HEWETT Obituary request

RBestrom7380 — 2008-03-30 06:21:21Z

If you look for the obit in Wenatchee, it will cost you $5.00. Since the other researcher is in Wenatchee, they didn't identify:

If you want it for free:
The Washington State Library has a free research service, the ask-a-librarian program, where they will look for information in the archives, in this case the newspaper microfilm for an event, such as an obituary. They will look up to an hour and send you the results. Contact them at: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/library/ask.aspx . Depending on the amount of requests, it could take up to a couple of weeks. But it is FREE.

Ron Bestrom

Re: Birth Records

RBestrom7380 — 2008-06-18 05:14:04Z

This wasn't copied to my posting from my draft:
http://www.cdhd.wa.gov/BirthandDeathCerrtificates.htm indicates that birth records in the Chelan/Douglas County Health District are only from 1924 forward.

Re: Birth Records

RBestrom7380 — 2008-06-18 03:47:58Z

The phone number provided by JudyArtley (SHOTGUN) is for the COURT Clerk. Unless the birth occured in Court, there won't be a record for it with the County Clerk. A County Clerk is almost always the COURT clerk.

What you are needing is a BIRTH record, not a Court Record. For births AFTER 1907, the record would be found at the Washington State Department of Health:
http://www.doh.wa.gov/EHSPHL/CHS/cert.htm

For the record you seek, in 1903, it "may" be still at the County level, for Douglas County, see:
http://www.doh.wa.gov/EHSPHL/CHS/issuing_co.htm

Shotgun, I have sent this information regarding "Court House" searches several times to your postings. Please note WHO does WHAT in the "Court House". A County Recorder, County Assessor, County Heath/Vital Records, are not always in the "Court House".

Also, since Shotgun didn't say, here is the link for the Washington State Archives...you may get lucky:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/default.aspx

Sorry for any Problems encountered.... ...

Ron Bestrom

Re: Turner, George W. 1865-1943 -- Obituary Request

RBestrom7380 — 2008-02-12 05:29:04Z

First, not sure what "family connection" you are trying to obtain, you should post that for the researchers that will find this inquiry.

Second, I did find him in a family tree on Ancestry as posted by a "PapaDS". He indicates the death was in 1944. I sent a message to this unknown person (Why do people post family trees or inquires and do not identify themselves for research?). Hopefully he will come forward.

Now for an obituary. The years of the early 40's, obits were not as common as today, but far more than in the early 1900's. Their "may" be one, IF, there was a family member or friend that would pay for it, IF they had been in the area long enough to have a social connection to the area. There might be a death notice, but they were not more than just an advertisement for the funeral home.

So, if you want to try:
The Washington State Library has a free research program where they will look for information in the archives, in this case the newspaper microfilm for an event, such as an obituary. They will look up to an hour and send you the results. Contact them at: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/library/ask.aspx . Depending on the amount of requests, it could take up to a couple of weeks.

Ron Bestrom

Re: Burgetts of Douglas County

RBestrom7380 — 2008-02-08 06:11:00Z

Since you have proven you have searched the census, and are asking for

The 1850 Census for Akron, Summit County, Ohio
Joshua ?Vigg", age 50, laborer, born unknown
Olivia ?Vigg?" age 45, born New York
Roswell Burgett, age 22, Cooper, born Ohio.
Ira Burgett, 17, (transcribed on Ancestry as Isa), Boatman, born Ohio
--the next page of the census
Phebe Sara Burg...14
George Burge.. 9
caroline Burge.. 7
William G Burge... 4
----those listed on the second page are "probably" a continuation of the Burgett name, but the handwriting makes it difficult to prove/determine. The names ARE transcribed as Burgett, but would have to be proven.

An important "clue" is Ira was in Company D of the 4th California Infantry in the Civil War (I doubt that he "faught" at all). He was listed as "Ira Burget".
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.cfm
The 4th California was a volunteer infantry regiment recruited from northern California during the American Civil War. It was organized at Sacramento, Placerville, and Auburn in September and October 1861 . Most of the recruits, caught up in war fever, expected to be sent to the eastern battlefields. They were disappointed to be instead ordered to garrison duty and related tasks on the West Coast, where they spent the remainder of their enlistments. None of these duties required regimental strength, so the companies of the regiment were detached and scattered. The regiment was mustered out on April 18, 1866.
Companies A, B, C, and E were sent to the Washington Territory in late 1862 and were recalled at varying times throughout 1862 . One of the best documented of these detachments is that of Company D, which was sent to Fort Hoskins and Fort Yamhill in Oregon. A number of Company D's soldiers did not return to California, choosing to settle in Oregon and start new lives there. In 1863, Captain Charles Atchisson's Company I was sent to Arizona to garrison Fort Mojave on the Colorado River
---This could be the reason Ira came to Washington State.
---The "Clue" was that he was already in California by the early 1860's. But, finding him in the census of that period, 1850's, 1860's, would be difficult. The 1860 census only showed 2 (two) by the name of Burget, only 10 with Burgett, 10 as "Ira",
---What the other "person" didn't identify, or perhaps understand, the Civil War Pension records for "Ira A. Burgett". He filed as "Invalid" on Sep 9, 1890 in Washington, Application 930,113, certificate 657699. His widow, "Cynthise" as written on the form, filed as widow on January 23, 1912, in Washington, application 978,877, certificate 746 353.
For those records: Photocopies of casefile contents are currently requested by submitting NATF Form 85 to the National Archives and Records Administration, Attn: NWCTB, 700 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, D.C. 20408-0001. BUT, these pension records will cost you, up to 100 pages is $75.00:
http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2007/nr07-128.h...
While many are upset about this cost, most people do not realize what it takes to locate these records, find those records in that box, CAREFULLY extract those OLD records, CAREFULLY copy those records and return them to storage. They then must take the copies to shipment, address envelopes, etc. It is expensive to obtain these records for PRIVATE individuals. NARA is not a public genealogy site for that purpose, it is primarily to obtain records, extract records, and save records for the government. So, any fee should be at the cost of the person inquiring...I do not want to have my own taxes pay for the thousands of people that want the records of their ancestor.
These records, may or may not identify the parents.

After this, I would suggest, if you haven't already, do postings in Ohio for this Ira.

Ron Bestrom

Re: Burgetts of Douglas County

judyartley26191 — 2008-02-08 04:05:30Z

Hi Don, I first found Ira and family living in Pacific, Humboldt, CA in 1870. Ira, b. OH, 32, farmer; Cynthia, wife, b. IL, 30, Thomas, b. OR, 10; Lucy, b. OR, 9; Harriet, b. OR, 7; John, b. OR, 6; Shannon, male, b. OR, 4; Grant, b. CA, 2 and Henry, b. CA, 3/12.

In 1880 the family was living in Butte, Sutter Co., CA. Ira A., b. OH, 41, farmer; Cynthis, b. IL, 39; Thomas, b. OR, 19; Hattie, b. OR, 16; John, b. OR, 14, Sherman, b. OR, 12; Grant, b. CA, 12; Henry, b. CA, 10, William, CA, 9; Davia [but index says David], son, b. CA, 5 and Daisy, b. CA, 3.

In 1885 I. A. Burgett & family lived in Kittitas Co., WA. I. A. b. OH, abt. 1839 and married. The rest of the family members are all listed with initials only. Could be your family or maybe not.

Then you found the 1887 Wash. Territorial Census where they were living in Douglas Co. WA became a state Nov. 11, 1889 to they were here early.

Check the Wenatchee Area Genealogy Society web site under surnames to see if they have anything additional for this family. If any of them died while living in Douglas County and if an obit was published, that would be listed on this web site too. Also an index for all the cemeteries in Douglas Co.

In 1890 Ira A. was living in Waterville, Douglas Co., WA. He was a Civil War Vet having served 1862-1864 as a Private. Source: 1890 Veterans Schedule.

You might want to contact the Douglas County Museum, Lori Ludeman, 509-745-8435, 124 W. Walnut, Waterville, WA 98858 and see if they have anything on this family.

Another contact is the Douglas County Historical Society, 113 W. Locust, Waterville, 509-745-8800.

In 1892 most of the family was living in Enumclaw, King Co., WA. William, head household, b. CA, 21, farmer; David, b. CA, 17, farmer; I. A., b. OH, 55, farmer; Synth, b. IL, 41; Daisy, b. CA, 16; Tera A., female, b. CA, 11 and Dana, b. WA, 7.

In 1900 Ira, Cynthis and Dama [as shown on Census] were living in Winthrop, Okanogan Co., WA. Ira b. Dec. 1837, OH, marr 41 yrs, farmer; Cynthia b. June 1851, IL, had given birth to 14 children & 11 were alive in 1900; Dama, dau, b. May 1884, WA.

You might to contact the Okanogan Co. Gen. Soc., ocgs@hcidata.com to see if they have additional info on the family.

In 1910 Ira and Synthia [as spelled on the Census] were living in Winthrop, Okanogan Co. Ira A., 71, b. OH, general farmer and Synthia, b. IL, 69.

Cynthia filed for Ira's Civil War Pension whle living in Wash. Ira faught in the "D 4th Cal Inf". Source: Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files 1861-1934. Successful Hunting!

Re: HEWETT Obituary request

judyartley26191 — 2008-03-30 02:48:41Z

Hi Carol, the Wenatchee Valley Genealogy Society has all the obituaries published by the Wenatchee World, www.wags-web.org. Successful Hunting!

Turner, George W. 1865-1943 -- Obituary Request

gscorup — 2008-02-12 03:32:58Z

We are looking for an obituary for George W. Turner who was born 5/16/1865 in Dallas Co, MO, died 1/30/1943 (possibly 1944) in Soap Lake, Grant Co, WA and is buried at the Waterville Cemetery in Waterville, Douglas Co, WA. George was married to Rachel Engle and they had 13 children.

We are hoping George's obituary will show a family connection. Any help would be appreciated.
Ginny

Re: Turner, George W. 1865-1943 -- Obituary Request

gscorup — 2008-02-13 19:16:42Z

Received a copy of George's obituary today from the library. (Excellent service!) It lists his wife and children, it does not list his parents.

Re: Turner, George W. 1865-1943 -- Obituary Request

gscorup — 2008-02-13 06:42:47Z

Thank you for replying to my post.

George may be our great-grandpa's brother. I appreciate your checking on Ancestry and would appreciate hearing if you hear from PapaDS.

I've seen George's death year as 1943 and 1944. On www.wags-web.org/obits/40/t.html is reference to a newspaper George's obituary was published in, granted it may be an advertisement, but it's worth checking. I contacted the library, they do have the newspaper and should be able to send me what they find in a few days. What a great service! I didn't know it was available.

Thank you Ron!

Ginny

Re: Birth Records

northwestpioneer — 2008-11-16 01:00:15Z

The Wenatchee Area Genealogical Society would be your best bet for information. Check out there web site here:

http://www.wags-web.org/index.html

Also, check out this site for Washington State death"s

http://search.labs.familysearch.org

and the Washington State Digital Archives here:

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/

If I knew the range of dates you are looking at, it would help.

Re: Birth Records

northwestpioneer — 2008-11-13 22:07:58Z

What are the names you are looking for? The local genealogical society has microfilm of old birth records for Douglas County. Give me the exact names and dates and I will look.

Re: Arthur Spiecker

FarkenSchleyPommern — 2008-02-19 06:58:23Z

Hello,

Are you a descendant of Wilhelm (Bill) Spiecker?

His sister Hattie kept in contact with the grandparents of my husband, but in 1946/1947 it suddenly stopped. Since many years we try to find out what happened to her and her husband Walter and we try to find descendants of her brothers. It would be nice when you can answer us: faircoup(at)yahoo.de.

Thanks and greetings from Germany,
Monika.

Re: Arthur Spiecker

FarkenSchleyPommern — 2008-03-15 06:49:24Z

Yes, that could be the same. We only know her with the name Hattie (may a second name like Hedwig or Harriet), maybe also Hattie Elizabeth. As far as I know she was born on 1888-07-27 in Rost Jackson County, Minnesota as child of Gustav SPIECKER and Wilhelmine, nee Lück. In the Minnesota Census - Rost Township, Jackson County, Minnesota of 1895 she has the name Hattie. In the United States Census - Rost Township, Jackson County, Minnesota of 1900 she had the name
Laura. Both must be the same, because the datas of birth are the same.

She married first about 1910 a man I don't have any more informations. He died young before 1932. Than she married the widower Walter E. van Valkenburg (van Valkenberg), born about 1890 - 1892 in Utah, about 1930. In both marriages she had no children. The grand-parents of my husband never got post of them again after 1946/1947. The address at that time was post-box in Marysville. They had some shops of cleaners with the name "Elite Cleaners" in Marysville. This shop does still exist in Marysville, but the owners don't know anything about the family van Valkenberg. We called them years ago.

Re: Arthur Spiecker

FarkenSchleyPommern — 2008-02-11 11:08:27Z

Hello and many greetings from Germany.

I just read that you are looking for informations of Arthur Spiecker. Well, I have lots of informations of your ancestors in Pommern / Germany. His mother, Wilhelmine Spiecker, nee Lück was a sister of the grand-mother of my mother-in-law. I would be glad if we can have a contact, because I am looking for more informations of our relationship in the USA.

Please write to faircoup (at) yahoo.de. We all are looking forward to your answer!

Kind regards,

Monika.

Burgetts of Douglas County

donburgett373 — 2008-01-18 00:13:27Z

Hi. I'm interested in learning about the roots of Ira Burgett, born in Ohio, and living as a rancher in Douglas County Wa. in the late 1800s & early 1900s. Any information is appreciated. Attached is 1887 census of the Burgett family in question.

Re: Birth Records

smithrivers — 2008-11-15 23:57:38Z

Thank you for the reply. I did get copies of the birth certificates I wanted from Waterville.

My Grandfather was Leo C. Koenig, my Grandmother Emile (Hartwig) Koenig. Their children were August, Dorothea (my Mother), Eric, Martha, Emma and Paul. They were all born on the homestead in Douglas. If there is any information you can give me on any of the Koenigs or tell me where to go it would be very much appreciated. How do I get in touch with the local genealogical society?

Hamilton

kellyjhamilton — 2009-02-01 17:15:04Z

Any relatives of Wiley D Hamilton out there? :)

Mrs. Knut M. (Johanna) Steen of E. Wenatchee

denise1165 — 2008-03-15 18:23:46Z

I am interested in contacting the family of Johanna Steen. Mrs. Steen lived in E. Wenatchee and from all my research, appears to still be living at about age 90. It is her daughters, Bernice and Mary Lou, from her first marriage to Franklin Jerrow that I would like to contact. I have done extensive research on the Jerrow family, and would like to share with them. They can contact me at denise@suwaneetree.com

Re: Arthur Spiecker

neneg2 — 2008-03-15 05:53:49Z

One of Arthurs' brothers was William Gust Spiecker, b. September 1884, d. September 24, 1983. They had one sister, Laura Spiecker b. 1888, could this be Hattie?

Re: Arthur Spiecker

neneg2 — 2008-03-06 00:39:27Z

Hi from America and thank you for your response to my message. Arthur Spieckers' parents names were Gustov and Minnie....are these the same people that your are refering to? Thank You, Melanie Gee

Re: 1900 & 1910 Census Lookup - Levi Brown

SwimrefK — 2008-05-02 16:24:13Z

I find your Levi not in Washington in 1900 but in Sweet Grass Twp., ED 191, page 3b, Choteau County, Montana. Brother Sam and his family are in Bridgeport, Douglas County in both 1910 and 1920, but were earlier in Montana also where some of his children were born. In 1910 I also find in Bridgeport a Joshua Brown and family who look very much to be part of the same family.

Re: 1900 & 1910 Census Lookup - Levi Brown

SwimrefK — 2008-05-03 15:04:24Z

OK. In addition to being in Montana in 1900, you can find him in 1910 in Chelan Falls, Chelan County, Washington (ED 29, page 2a). He is married with no children, his mother-in-law is living with him, as is a nephew. He is working as a miller, as is a nearby George D. Brown who may be another brother. The family is shown as follows:
L.D. Brown, 29, married 4 yrs, b. Canada, imm. 1896, naturalized, owns home with mortgage.
E. Brown, wife, 33, b. MO
Neil McElwain, nephew, 5, b. WA
M.A. Sheafer, mother-in-law, 60, widow, 7 children, b. OH

I could find no trace of him in 1920.

Re: Birth Records

judyartley53 — 2008-06-16 01:32:35Z

Hi, I'd contact the Douglas County Clerk, 509-745-8529 and see if they are stored in the Court House.

It's possible they have been turned in to the Washington State Archives.

Also the Wenatchee Area Genealogical Society does research for Chelan and Douglas Counties, www.wags-web.org. Successful Searching.

HEWETT Obituary request

jchofkau — 2008-03-20 21:45:17Z

Wondering if someone would be willing to look up an obit for Myrl Hewett who d. July 2, 1992 in East Wenatchee.

Thanks
Carol

Re: 1900 & 1910 Census Lookup - Levi Brown

ldodds21 — 2008-05-03 13:36:33Z

I have the census info on Samuel and Joshua. looking for the family of Levi BROWN, who he is married to, children where born ages etc. thanks

Re: 1900 & 1910 Census Lookup - Levi Brown

ldodds21 — 2008-05-03 18:00:32Z

excellent. thank you for help

Re: Turner, George W. 1865-1943 -- Obituary Request

PapaDS — 2008-03-26 03:13:09Z

Ginny, sorry for the delay in responding; perhaps you've had better luck with others by now. George is my great grandfather, his daughter Edna married Clyde Smeltzer my grandfather. He is buried in the Waterville Cemetery in the Mausoleum with my grandparents and a great uncle. I do have some information from a death certificate; and perhaps can help you or refer you to another researcher. The obit is most likely in the Waterville Empire, but I now live on the east coast and until its on line won't seek it out! I do have pretty good family details. Let me know specifics and we'll see what we can do.
David Smeltzer - email papads@aol.com